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2013-07-17 11:25:58 AM
But one of the men who handed out flyers warning residents Shawn Michael Dunn is living in the house stands by them.

"If we had to do this whole thing again, we wouldn't hesitate doing it," said the resident, who said he distributed the flyers with members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability.


*headexplodes.gif*

/Douchebag doesn't stand by them enough to give his name out
 
2013-07-17 11:46:41 AM
This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)
 
2013-07-17 12:00:38 PM
"8 year olds, Dude."
 
2013-07-17 12:01:53 PM
/b/?
 
2013-07-17 12:02:05 PM
Be right or don't come out of the house
 
2013-07-17 12:02:47 PM
Two to 300 hundred of the flyers, titled "Attention Residents, For your protection," were distributed last Thursday on the woman's street and two blocks of surrounding areas, posted to telephone poles and at the nearby public pool.

Dear Douchebag, you know attaching posters or signs to utility poles is illegal, right? i'd hate to see you be held accountable for that.
 
2013-07-17 12:03:40 PM
Oopsies.
 
2013-07-17 12:04:40 PM

nytmare: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers, titled "Attention Residents, For your protection," were distributed last Thursday on the woman's street and two blocks of surrounding areas, posted to telephone poles and at the nearby public pool.

Dear Douchebag, you know attaching posters or signs to utility poles is illegal, right? i'd hate to see you be held accountable for that.


It's not in Ontario. At least it wasn't in Ottawa.
 
2013-07-17 12:04:44 PM
This Dunn fellow sounds like a rational and diplomatic person...except for the whole sexual assault on a 10 and 12 year old, he seems like a reasonable guy. *cough*
 
2013-07-17 12:04:59 PM
Meh, should have just posted a bunch of "have you seen this cat because it's farking awesome" flyers instead.
 
GBB
2013-07-17 12:05:28 PM

serpent_sky: This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)


Your logic will surely confound the masses.
 
2013-07-17 12:06:18 PM
I had a 75 year old retired cop/former CIA/all around nosey guy for a neighbor once. He went door to door telling everyone the address of a sex offender with a pic of the guy. The offender moved within a week. I didn't feel sorry for the baby raper, but that doesn't mean I liked the old codger either.
 
2013-07-17 12:06:26 PM
Any harm that happens to the guy on the poster or the family living at the address they gave should be the responsibility of the guy who put those posters.  Any harm that comes to either of them should result in criminal prosecution.
 
2013-07-17 12:06:54 PM
Spike Lee?
 
2013-07-17 12:08:39 PM
TFA: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers...

I'm not clear if this means 2-30000 or 200-30000.
 
2013-07-17 12:08:52 PM

But one of the men who handed out flyers warning residents Shawn Michael Dunn is living in the house stands by them.
"If we had to do this whole thing again, we wouldn't hesitate doing it," said the resident, who said he distributed the flyers with members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability.


Dicks.

The man who handed out the flyers, who spoke on anonymity for fear he'll be in trouble with police, said he and three others acted on a tip Dunn was seen at the residence.

Pussy.
 
2013-07-17 12:09:07 PM

Carth: nytmare: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers, titled "Attention Residents, For your protection," were distributed last Thursday on the woman's street and two blocks of surrounding areas, posted to telephone poles and at the nearby public pool.

Dear Douchebag, you know attaching posters or signs to utility poles is illegal, right? i'd hate to see you be held accountable for that.

It's not in Ontario. At least it wasn't in Ottawa.


I was living in Ottawa until recently, and just about every wooden pole was either caked 30 layers deep in posters or positively covered in rusted staples.  No idea what's up with Thorold's laws, but it clearly isn't Ontario-wide.
 
2013-07-17 12:09:08 PM
instant-art.com
 
2013-07-17 12:09:28 PM
I bet he conformed it with the FBI's summer intern.
 
2013-07-17 12:09:47 PM

Josu: TFA: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers...

I'm not clear if this means 2-30000 or 200-30000.


2000 to 3000 tens of flyers
 
2013-07-17 12:10:07 PM
"If we had to do this whole thing again, we wouldn't hesitate doing it," said the resident, who said he distributed the flyers with members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability.

In a just society, this individual would be beaten with a baseball bat until he is permanently disabled, but not dead, and the assailant would face no legal punishment.
 
2013-07-17 12:10:09 PM
I bet he confirmed it with the FBI over the phone.
 
2013-07-17 12:10:42 PM

EightyEight: I had a 75 year old retired cop/former CIA/all around nosey guy for a neighbor once. He went door to door telling everyone the address of a sex offender with a pic of the guy. The offender moved within a week. I didn't feel sorry for the baby raper, but that doesn't mean I liked the old codger either.


Did he actually rape babies?
 
2013-07-17 12:11:18 PM

Warlordtrooper: Any harm that happens to the guy on the poster or the family living at the address they gave should be the responsibility of the guy who put those posters.  Any harm that comes to either of them should result in criminal prosecution.


You mean members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability should be accountable for their own actions? Surely you jest!
 
2013-07-17 12:11:29 PM

yeegrek: Carth: nytmare: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers, titled "Attention Residents, For your protection," were distributed last Thursday on the woman's street and two blocks of surrounding areas, posted to telephone poles and at the nearby public pool.

Dear Douchebag, you know attaching posters or signs to utility poles is illegal, right? i'd hate to see you be held accountable for that.

It's not in Ontario. At least it wasn't in Ottawa.

I was living in Ottawa until recently, and just about every wooden pole was either caked 30 layers deep in posters or positively covered in rusted staples.  No idea what's up with Thorold's laws, but it clearly isn't Ontario-wide.


I always thought it was funny you could tell exactly how high the average person could reach because that is how far up the staples would go.

Then you had the annoying  Scientology protest one that was up for months because they used a step ladder and put it higher up making it so the people who take them down couldn't reach.
 
2013-07-17 12:13:12 PM

Dimensio: In a just society


upload.wikimedia.org

That I cannot do.
 
2013-07-17 12:13:16 PM

FullMetalPanda: Josu: TFA: Two to 300 hundred of the flyers...

I'm not clear if this means 2-30000 or 200-30000.

2000 to 3000 tens of flyers


(2300)x100 flyers.  Learn to math!
 
2013-07-17 12:13:39 PM
If ever in the unfortunate position you need to construct a sentence properly, seek immediate help.
 
2013-07-17 12:13:59 PM
Did Spike Lee F- up again?
 
2013-07-17 12:14:46 PM
www.theblindcard.com

After GIS for Famous Pedophiles ..

 
2013-07-17 12:15:16 PM

Dimensio: "If we had to do this whole thing again, we wouldn't hesitate doing it," said the resident, who said he distributed the flyers with members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability.

In a just society, this individual would be beaten with a baseball bat until he is permanently disabled, but not dead, and the assailant would face no legal punishment.


seconded.
 
2013-07-17 12:16:27 PM
Ontario Coalition for Accountability!

Ahhhhh ahahhahaahhahahahahahah

ahahahhahahahahah

hahahahh
 
2013-07-17 12:16:36 PM
Two to 300 hundred of the flyers

How do I number?
 
2013-07-17 12:16:51 PM

UsikFark: I bet he confirmed it with the FBI over the phone.


I don't get it... he's canadian, the whole story is canadian... why would they confirm things with US authorities?
 
2013-07-17 12:17:05 PM

serpent_sky: This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)


Agreed.
 
2013-07-17 12:18:30 PM
I don't know what the laws are in Canada, nor Ontario. but in the United States, the individual who distributed these flyers could be easily sued for Slander and possibly Incitement to Riot. Any Lawyer would have a field day with this.
 
2013-07-17 12:20:22 PM

Deathfrogg: I don't know what the laws are in Canada, nor Ontario. but in the United States, the individual who distributed these flyers could be easily sued for Slander and possibly Incitement to Riot. Any Lawyer would have a field day with this.


The douchebag who said he was proud of what he did spoke on the condition of anonymity for fear of being in trouble with the police. I'm guessing they've got similar laws up there.
 
2013-07-17 12:20:32 PM

serpent_sky: This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)


That is way too benevolent for these parts.
 
2013-07-17 12:21:52 PM
Ontario Coalition for Accountability -- Canadian NAMBLA has many names and many disguises. If you're actively pointed people to the wrong addresses, who's to say what the real motive is?
 
2013-07-17 12:22:00 PM
WTH is "sexual interference"?  Is that the same as cock-blocking?  Cause if it is, that SHOULD be illegal, or at least a 15 yard penalty....
 
2013-07-17 12:23:09 PM
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-17 12:23:26 PM

serpent_sky: This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)


The point is to make it so uncomfortable that hopefully he relocates and inform everyone else so that they are aware. I would want to know that my next door neighbor had a conviction for child molestation. I would certainly not let my kids sleep over at their house if that person had kids. I would not let that person in close proximity to my kids. As bad as it sounds, I am all for a Bluth style sex offenders only neighborhood. They should be treated like lepers. This should be inclusive of other major convictions as well.
 
2013-07-17 12:29:38 PM

Deathfrogg: I don't know what the laws are in Canada, nor Ontario. but in the United States, the individual who distributed these flyers could be easily sued for Slander and possibly Incitement to Riot. Any Lawyer would have a field day with this.


Only if the victims are rich.  Justice in Canada is pricey:

Former Ontario Attorney General Michael Bryant will soon be publishing his memoir, recounting the fallout from the 2009 incident in which his car killed an inebriated and belligerent bike courier on a downtown Toronto street...he was found to have done nothing criminal or malicious. In a pre-release publicity interview for his book, Bryant revealed something astonishing: He owes more than $300,000 in legal fees, costs which appear to have been incurred both in hiring lawyers to defend himself from the charges which he faced and to handle his separation from his former wife, a separation which occurred within months of the charges against him being dropped.  Remember that this is one of the most well-connected people in Toronto - someone who doubtless counts dozens of the city's best lawyers among his friends, and who is a sophisticated consumer of legal services...Yet it still cost him $300,000.  That amount of money is a terrifying sum to have to spend to defend oneself. Many people simply can't access that sort of money - even with loans. And remember that this is a situation in which the charges were dropped - and the marital separation was, by all accounts, relatively amicable. One shudders to think how much it would have cost to slog through a full criminal trial and a contentious divorce. Half a million would be a conservative estimate.
 
2013-07-17 12:31:10 PM
www.vh1.com

I would not want baby rappers living ner me either.
 
2013-07-17 12:32:26 PM

GeekDragon: How do I number?


potato
 
2013-07-17 12:32:52 PM

scottydoesntknow: But one of the men who handed out flyers warning residents Shawn Michael Dunn is living in the house stands by them.

"If we had to do this whole thing again, we wouldn't hesitate doing it," said the resident, who said he distributed the flyers with members of the Ontario Coalition for Accountability.


I have never heard of this "Accountability" of which you speak.  Was this a thing before the internet?
 
2013-07-17 12:34:22 PM
the money is in the banana stand: The point is to make it so uncomfortable that hopefully he relocates and inform everyone else so that they are aware. I would want to know that my next door neighbor had a conviction for child molestation. I would certainly not let my kids sleep over at their house if that person had kids. I would not let that person in close proximity to my kids. As bad as it sounds, I am all for a Bluth style sex offenders only neighborhood. They should be treated like lepers. This should be inclusive of other major convictions as well.

I don't understand this sort of mentality. If you think they should keep being punished in perpetuity and treated like lepers, then why even let them out of prison in the first place? By letting them out and marginalizing them into ghettos, barring them from getting decent jobs, etc. you're just going to make them bitter, angry and more likely to re-offend. Other than being cathartic, this post-imprisonment punitive bullshiat does neither the criminal nor the people around them any good.
 
2013-07-17 12:34:32 PM
The money is in the banana stand....

Your neighbor was convicted in the 70s for murdering his neighbors child, is now out on parole, do you know about it?

What's worse?
 
2013-07-17 12:36:34 PM

the money is in the banana stand: They should be treated like lepers. This should be inclusive of other major convictions as well.


Well, fark, why let anyone out of prison, ever? Just shoot them when the guilt verdict comes down. It's the only way to be safe.
 
2013-07-17 12:37:02 PM

the money is in the banana stand: serpent_sky: This is why ordinary citizens should not take justice or "justice" into their own hands.

I also stand by my usual statement - as vile as I find pedophiles to be, if he served his time, he should be free to live his life, and doing things like this.... making it impossible for him to find a job or live a normal life in no way encourages him to become a productive member of society (hell, it all but makes it impossible) and further, in no way discourages him from re-offending.  What difference does it make if he's going to be punished for life, anyway?

And I follow that by, if the sentence he received was not sufficient, or if it is found that you simply can't reform pedophiles and/or sex offenders, then stop releasing them from prison.  And petition for a change to the laws so that is what happens.  Otherwise, accept they paid their debt to society and hope that they did actually get rehabilitated in prison.  (You can never, ever repay the victim. It's not possible. This much I know as a survivor of rape.  I'm a proponent of life in prison for sexual offenders, because too many DO re-offend. But I also respect the law and if someone paid their debt to society, they should have a chance to live their life normally.)

The point is to make it so uncomfortable that hopefully he relocates and inform everyone else so that they are aware. I would want to know that my next door neighbor had a conviction for child molestation. I would certainly not let my kids sleep over at their house if that person had kids. I would not let that person in close proximity to my kids. As bad as it sounds, I am all for a Bluth style sex offenders only neighborhood. They should be treated like lepers. This should be inclusive of other major convictions as well.


Sex offenders have a low recidivism rate, I would link some studies but I'm at work and I would really not like to explain that Google search to IT or my supervisor.
Grouping them together makes them more likely to re-offend, just like addicts can't kick their habit while still maintaining a link to their enablers,  and it's one of the bigger issues with states like Georgia that put such incredibly difficult stipulations on where offenders can live that they end up making little "communes".

A sex offender registry is not only dangerous, it's blatantly unconstitutional, but you're not going to find a politician to touch that with a twenty foot pole.
 
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