The Envoy: Yes Nick, you lying little prick, this will definitely work well and not lead to teaching to the test. Michael Gove is an elitist shiatbag who seems hell-bent on eviscerating the education system, much like the majority of the Tories are hell-bent on gutting other public institutions and we, the people, are the ones who will suffer for it. In expensive enclaves in Bucks and Herts, where it's generally quiet because the sprogs have been packed off to Eton, Harrow, Marlborough and Bryanston, they'll be acclaiming this move because it will not affect them one little bit. It's enough to make one slightly homicidal.
Anthracite: reason #548745 to homeschool
Millennium: For all Dubya's flaws, his quote "Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning?" has a point. A lot of made of the US education system's failure to keep up with the rest of the world, but more telling is the apples-to-apples comparison with our own past standards. Simply put, we haven't been able to keep up with ourselves: every few years they have to fiddle with the numbers to mask the downward slide, but it only works for a year or two before things begin to trend downwards again.
tricycleracer: Anthracite: reason #548745 to homeschoolThe first half-million or so reasons have to do with fear of minorities and religious indoctrination, right?
wildcardjack: Some children should be left behind.
Millennium: For all Dubya's flaws, his quote "Rarely is the question asked: is our children learning?" has a point. A lot of made of the US education system's failure to keep up with the rest of the world, but more telling is the apples-to-apples comparison with our own past standards. Simply put, we haven't been able to keep up with ourselves: every few years they have to fiddle with the numbers to mask the downward slide, but it only works for a year or two before things begin to trend downwards again.How do we fix this? I'm not sure anyone knows. Studies do indeed show that teachers have a huge effect on student performance, but we've been attacking the problem from the teacher side for decades now, to seemingly no avail: it was a reasonable go, but I think it's time to admit that we've been barking up the wrong tree. It is time for a strategic retreat: go back to what we know worked better -we actually have the data, for once- while we work out the next path to try.But even under such a situation, standardized testing must have a place. It is not the be-all and end-all of education, by any stretch of the imagination: one of NCLB's biggest mistakes was treating standardized testing as a panacea. But there is a different reason that we need it, and it goes back to Dubya's original question: the question was, indeed, rarely asked. We didn't have an objective, rigorous, and fair system to see how we were doing, and that is how we got caught with our pants down originally. But we also need that system to know when we find things that work, which is all it should have been used for in the first place. When we finally find our way out of this mess, standardized tests will provide the first indicators that we've done so. But we need to use them with the understanding that they can only measure: they cannot teach.Might something like this work for other countries as well? I think so, as long as they avoid the mistakes NCLB made. The test is only a measure, not a substitute for ...
megarian: They're farking 5 to 11 year olds.
Kimpak: wildcardjack: Some children should be left behind.What do you intend to do with them? Not trying to troll, its an honest question. If you simply hold them back, then they become a problem for the next years class. Creating an alternate classroom would cost money that isn't there. Expulsion? That could create a whole new set of issues.
Great Janitor: Then high school becomes either college prep or vocation training. The first year there is very little difference between the two options, but as high school continues, the two groups begin to interact less and less.
wildcardjack: Ah, I get it.Standardized testing produces more profits for firms that teach to the test. If SOMEONE WOULD DO SOME farkING JOURNALISM you'd find that there's a marketing feedback loop between the prep firms and the educators that think frequent testing improves education.Some children should be left behind. If they and their parents don't want to improve basic skills those little snots shouldn't hold the rest back. On the converse you need to push advanced students forward instead of boring them to point they become problems.
Savage Belief: On the converse you need to push advanced students forward instead of boring them to point they become problems.
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