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(KTVB Boise)   Farmers and biologists plan to remove a dam that hasn't been used since 1926. Surprisingly nobody has a problem with this   (ktvb.com) divider line 43
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2013-07-16 02:04:02 PM
Dam it Jim
 
2013-07-16 02:07:57 PM
www.oldmodelkits.com
 
2013-07-16 02:10:49 PM
johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com

Clark Griswold: Where the hell is the damn dam tour?

Hoover Dam Guide: Welcome everyone. I am your dam guide, Arnie. Now I'm about to take you through a fully funtional power plant, so please, no one wander off the dam tour and please take all the dam pictures you want. Now are there any dam questions?

Cousin Eddie: Yeah, where can I get some damn bait?
 
2013-07-16 02:13:38 PM
That's because no one gives a dam.
 
2013-07-16 02:24:41 PM

Lorelle: That's because no one gives a dam.


Came in to post this.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-16 02:28:32 PM
I read a local story recently about an obsolete dam. People and government officials would be happy to have it gone. As long as the owner applies for permits and submits a stack of environmental forms and obtains the proper insurance and hires a dam busting expert to plan the project and applies for more permits for the final plan and then hires a properly licensed dam busting company to ... you know what, it's cheaper to leave the eyesore in place.
 
2013-07-16 02:28:38 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-16 02:29:05 PM
www.robertlpeters.com

Not the dam in question, but a similar situation.

If it's not being used, then yeah take it down.  They just have to be careful about that massive flood of silt that's going to come downstream for a while.
 
2013-07-16 02:32:37 PM

Sin_City_Superhero: [johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com image 850x458]

Clark Griswold: Where the hell is the damn dam tour?

Hoover Dam Guide: Welcome everyone. I am your dam guide, Arnie. Now I'm about to take you through a fully funtional power plant, so please, no one wander off the dam tour and please take all the dam pictures you want. Now are there any dam questions?

Cousin Eddie: Yeah, where can I get some damn bait?


Unrelated PSA: the workers at the Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.  TMYK.
 
2013-07-16 02:35:14 PM
What about the swans? Or was that a different story?
 
2013-07-16 02:35:21 PM

Carn: Sin_City_Superhero: [johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com image 850x458]

Clark Griswold: Where the hell is the damn dam tour?

Hoover Dam Guide: Welcome everyone. I am your dam guide, Arnie. Now I'm about to take you through a fully funtional power plant, so please, no one wander off the dam tour and please take all the dam pictures you want. Now are there any dam questions?

Cousin Eddie: Yeah, where can I get some damn bait?

Unrelated PSA: the workers at the Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.  TMYK.


Now that is quite interesting.
 
2013-07-16 02:36:29 PM
Even this guy?

si0.twimg.com
 
2013-07-16 02:38:59 PM

Carn: the workers at the Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.


Yeah..... no.
 
2013-07-16 02:42:06 PM
"Is this a God dam?"
 
2013-07-16 02:42:19 PM

Carn: Sin_City_Superhero: [johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com image 850x458]

Clark Griswold: Where the hell is the damn dam tour?

Hoover Dam Guide: Welcome everyone. I am your dam guide, Arnie. Now I'm about to take you through a fully funtional power plant, so please, no one wander off the dam tour and please take all the dam pictures you want. Now are there any dam questions?

Cousin Eddie: Yeah, where can I get some damn bait?

Unrelated PSA: the workers at the Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.  TMYK.


Not really, the Navy commissioned hard hats (made from harden leather) for dock workers almost 20 years previous. It is true however that the Hoover Dam was the first 'construction site' to see mandatory use of the hats made from metal though. But they had been in use in the navy dock yards for decades and individual workers working the ship yards had been wearing them for awhile as well.
 
2013-07-16 02:43:54 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Carn: Sin_City_Superhero: [johnthewitness.files.wordpress.com image 850x458]

Clark Griswold: Where the hell is the damn dam tour?

Hoover Dam Guide: Welcome everyone. I am your dam guide, Arnie. Now I'm about to take you through a fully funtional power plant, so please, no one wander off the dam tour and please take all the dam pictures you want. Now are there any dam questions?

Cousin Eddie: Yeah, where can I get some damn bait?

Unrelated PSA: the workers at the Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.  TMYK.

Not really, the Navy commissioned hard hats (made from harden leather) for dock workers almost 20 years previous. It is true however that the Hoover Dam was the first 'construction site' to see mandatory use of the hats made from metal though. But they had been in use in the navy dock yards for decades and individual workers working the ship yards had been wearing them for awhile as well.


The tv lied to me.
 
2013-07-16 02:45:38 PM

Carn: The tv lied to me.


Well it was responsible for the invention of a mask and hat for sand blasters...that may have been it. They created the window visor hard hat we see today in use for things like furnace work, sand blasting, etc...
 
2013-07-16 02:49:12 PM
This idea is working great here in the PNW.
 
2013-07-16 02:50:45 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Carn: The tv lied to me.

Well it was responsible for the invention of a mask and hat for sand blasters...that may have been it. They created the window visor hard hat we see today in use for things like furnace work, sand blasting, etc...


It's either that or like you said the fact they made it mandatory that made it stick out to me.  The part I specifically remember is they were talking about blasting out the sides of the rock and hard hats kept the guys on rope from getting their heads smashed in by falling rocks.
 
2013-07-16 02:53:36 PM

Carn: It's either that or like you said the fact they made it mandatory that made it stick out to me. The part I specifically remember is they were talking about blasting out the sides of the rock and hard hats kept the guys on rope from getting their heads smashed in by falling rocks.


The project supervisor for the dam project specifically wanted to try and make it the safest work environment possible.Which up to that point was kind of a huge rarity.
 
2013-07-16 02:53:49 PM

bopis


"Is this a God dam?"


Settle down, Beavis.
 
2013-07-16 02:55:08 PM

Superjew: This idea is working great here in the PNW.


Except that power rates are skyrocketing and that whole no-economy thing they have going on.  It sucks when you plant a spotted owl in an ecosystem that it doesn't live in so you can kill the only industry you have.

/fark Port Angeles
//did my time there and got the fark out in '94
 
2013-07-16 03:21:38 PM

Carn: Hoover Dam invented the hard hat.


Hoover ain't worth a damn.
 
2013-07-16 03:23:39 PM

IdBeCrazyIf: Carn: It's either that or like you said the fact they made it mandatory that made it stick out to me. The part I specifically remember is they were talking about blasting out the sides of the rock and hard hats kept the guys on rope from getting their heads smashed in by falling rocks.

The project supervisor for the dam project specifically wanted to try and make it the safest work environment possible.Which up to that point was kind of a huge rarity.


So it was a good goddamn dam project?
 
2013-07-16 04:11:46 PM

Carn: So it was a good goddamn dam project?


damn right
 
2013-07-16 04:25:04 PM
DrunkWithImpotence

If it's not being used, then yeah take it down. They just have to be careful about that massive flood of silt that's going to come downstream for a while.

Yeah, if they breach in in one swell foop it'll get a bit muddy, but if they do a controlled release and plant appropriate wetland plants in the newly-exposed bottom it would minimize that problem in addition to providing new wetlands. Those things take hold fairly quickly. Of course, no one is patient anymore, so ... .

Meanwhile, one of Ed Zern's takes on trout:

How To Wade A Trout Stream

Nothing is so disturbing to the joys of trout-fishing as to step on a slippery rock while wading a stream and go hip boots over tincups. There are several ways of avoiding this. Some people wear nonskid chain devices attached to their boots. Some people wear stocking-foot waders and hobnailed or felt-soled shoes. Some people with more gray matter just stay the hell out of trout streams.

Statistics show that one-legged fishermen seldom fall down while wading. I only know of one one-legged angler personally. He lost the other one while poking good-natured fun at a buzz saw, and had it replaced with an aluminum job, made by the Dodd Artificial Limb Company. He is very proud of it. When someone suggested that he turn it in during an aluminum scrap drive, he indignantly refused.

"I don't give a good Dodd gam!" he said.


From To Hell With Fishing 1945
 
2013-07-16 04:56:14 PM
I demand that someone have a problem with this!  I don't know what to do with myself sans conflict.  it feels... icky.
 
2013-07-16 04:58:03 PM
Considering how much money otherwise rational folk, except for the fly-fishing, are eager to spend it's a miracle more unused dams don't just experience mysterious accidents on a regular basis.
 
2013-07-16 05:01:13 PM
What did the fish say when he hit his head on a concrete wall?


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dam!
 
2013-07-16 05:02:58 PM
Good for the fish and the local environment.  Yay.
 
2013-07-16 05:53:04 PM
I had to read TFA twice to realize it's talking about *oceangoing* trout, comin' home some 500 miles to Idaho. Hey, if you can take out that dam near the headwaters and help 'em seal the deal, spawning-wise, that's good news for the species.
 
2013-07-16 06:12:20 PM
ZAZ: I read a local story recently about an obsolete dam. People and government officials would be happy to have it gone. As long as the owner applies for permits and submits a stack of environmental forms and obtains the proper insurance and hires a dam busting expert to plan the project and applies for more permits for the final plan and then hires a properly licensed dam busting company to ... you know what, it's cheaper to leave the eyesore in place.

Sounds about right, but you are a Captain Planet villain and worse than Hitler if you question the necessity of even a single line of EPA regulations.
 
2013-07-16 06:27:51 PM
 
2013-07-16 06:37:43 PM
There is an old Grist mill dam(the mill is long gone but the dam is still there) on a large creek (would be considered a river in a drier part of the country) that the creek floods notoriously every time it rains much harder than a sprinkle. The property owner would have no problems with removing the damn and removing the dam would improve flow and reduce flooding somewhat along the creek but the forms and expense of removing it are such that the property owner is just like Fark it.
 
2013-07-16 07:11:19 PM

Oldiron_79: The property owner would have no problems with removing the damn and removing the dam would improve flow and reduce flooding somewhat along the creek but the forms and expense of removing it are such that the property owner is just like Fark it.


Sometimes the dams just kinda.. break somehow.
 
2013-07-16 07:28:20 PM
Chagrin: Oldiron_79: The property owner would have no problems with removing the damn and removing the dam would improve flow and reduce flooding somewhat along the creek but the forms and expense of removing it are such that the property owner is just like Fark it.

Sometimes the dams just kinda.. break somehow.


well this one is concrete so to do it quickly would require explosives, and I don't wanna spend time in PMITA prison or worse GITMO for domestic turrism for blowing up a dam.
 
2013-07-16 08:34:57 PM
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CHURCH
 
2013-07-17 09:17:12 AM

ILoveBurritos: Good for the fish and the local environment.  Yay.


My trout already said that.
 
2013-07-17 02:32:57 PM
Unused and unmaintained dams are one of the biggest infrastructure threats in America today.

An overpass collapsing can crush a few cars.

An unused dam bursting because of heavy rains and disrepair can flood out an entire town and nobody in that town will have insurance for floods, because they aren't on a flood plain.

And there are thousands of them out there.


northamptonmedia.com

This shiat right here is not safe.
 
2013-07-17 03:01:25 PM

Oldiron_79: Chagrin: Oldiron_79: The property owner would have no problems with removing the damn and removing the dam would improve flow and reduce flooding somewhat along the creek but the forms and expense of removing it are such that the property owner is just like Fark it.

Sometimes the dams just kinda.. break somehow.

well this one is concrete so to do it quickly would require explosives, and I don't wanna spend time in PMITA prison or worse GITMO for domestic turrism for blowing up a dam.


I kinda get the point on requiring a fairly intensive study, though, before removing a dam. I mean, Billy Bob drops a stick of dynamite next to an old pile of rock, and next thing you know, a 170 acre lake drops 14 feet in 6 hours, damaging 66 houses and you're getting sued for $6,300,000.00. That tends to piss people off.
 
2013-07-17 05:19:57 PM

Idaho's last dam breach


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2013-07-17 05:59:09 PM

wutevr: Idaho's last dam breach
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My former father-in-law was part of the Forest Service's oversight when that failed.  Since then they took extra special care to inspect the Lucky Peak Dam that's right above Boise.
 
2013-07-17 06:15:58 PM

Smeggy Smurf: wutevr: Idaho's last dam breach
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My former father-in-law was part of the Forest Service's oversight when that failed.  Since then they took extra special care to inspect the Lucky Peak Dam that's right above Boise.


Lucky Peak has been a solid structure since 1951, despite being rolled earth and gravel as well

The Teton Dam should never have been constructed - started leaking almost immediately.  I lived in Ashton at the time so we didn't have any flooding - Sugar City, Tetonia, Rexburg OTOH - not good

i floated that canyon last weekend in my kickboat - the trout fishing is still good there
 
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