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(Hampton Roads)   One hundred protestors arrested by state security after singing and clapping demonstration against regime, in far flung despotic country of . . . North Carolina?   (hamptonroads.com) divider line 32
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2013-07-16 03:02:54 PM  
7 votes:
were they demonstrating from Republican created "free speech zones"?

ericpetersautos.com

courtesy of George W Bush and cronies
2013-07-16 02:35:25 PM  
5 votes:
Remeber - only the democrats are out of control. Republican actions are only ever for the greater good and are never abusive.
2013-07-16 03:41:23 PM  
4 votes:
North Carolina's government isn't really a government of the people per se.  It's more of a government of the gerrymandering for the corporation.  That is to say the general assembly is actively evil.
2013-07-16 03:34:31 PM  
4 votes:

bdub77: You can go into the NC General Assembly and protest, you can even sing and clap and support the people being arrested for a while. They give you a five minute warning, only if you continue after the five minutes will they arrest you for civil disobedience.


Um, NO.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.
2013-07-16 03:24:56 PM  
4 votes:
The interesting thing to me will be what the pro-lifers do in NC (and TX) once they've shut down the last abortion provider.

Because some of them are NOT just going to go home quietly.

My bet is they'll work on contraception next.
2013-07-16 03:04:11 PM  
4 votes:
Was at the protest yesterday. It's not as dramatic as they are making it. Thousands of people come. The people going to jail are volunteering to go to jail. You can go into the NC General Assembly and protest, you can even sing and clap and support the people being arrested for a while. They give you a five minute warning, only if you continue after the five minutes will they arrest you for civil disobedience. The cops there were very cool, they explain everything if you discuss it with them. Yes something like 800 people TOTAL have been arrested since the start of the rallies - but this was rally #11. It seems there are more and more people coming out each rally.

We are getting good crowds. I urge people in NC to come out and show their support for the people there.

CSB: Met Rev. William Barber (basically the leader of the protests) yesterday on the way to the protest as he was just getting out of his car.

i.imgur.com

It was a good rally. Hot as balls yesterday too.
2013-07-16 03:57:42 PM  
3 votes:

RedVentrue: Moral Monday? Yeah where you support the Moral right to kill your offspring.


You totally nailed it. After all they've been doing Moral Mondays since April and the anti-abortion laws just came out in the past two weeks. But you nailed it. Oh except that they don't qualify as offspring until they spring off you. But you know, aside from those technicalities. You. Nailed. It.
2013-07-16 03:54:44 PM  
3 votes:

PunGent: The interesting thing to me will be what the pro-lifers do in NC (and TX) once they've shut down the last abortion provider.

Because some of them are NOT just going to go home quietly.

My bet is they'll work on contraception next.


Yeah, they're already doing that.  By defunding or outright shutting down Planned Parenthood, they're taking away the ability for low income women to have access to contraception.  In Ohio, they're also trying to increase funding for "Pregnancy Crisis Centers" that tell women things like "Abortions cause breast cancer" AND cutting food stamp aid.

So, we're going to have more babies born to low income women who will not have the option to get an abortion, and we won't have enough money in the state coffers to pay for any of this.  See also:  Texas.
2013-07-16 03:32:57 PM  
3 votes:
finally taking the state back to what the founding fathers intended...
only wealthy, male land-owners (and corporations) are allowed to vote
indentured servants and slaves are back as a source of cheap labor
women are relegated to the kitchen where they belong.

living the republican dream!!!
2013-07-16 04:25:52 PM  
2 votes:

RedVentrue: Moral Monday? Yeah where you support the Moral right to kill your offspring.


Well let's review:

Most of the protestors come from the Judeo-Christian religious tradition and therefore presumably base thier claims of morality on the ethics contained in the bible.   There are not only protesting abortion restrictions but new restriction on aid to the poor, medicaid, and food stamps.   So let's turn to the Bible to see what it has to say on these subjects

Abortion:
"  ..."
but to be fair, Christian Tradition starting with Thomas Acquinas' Summa Theologica cetainly does have something to say about abortion and that is basically that abortion is perfectly lawful and moral up until the time of the "quickening"  or roughly the end of the 2nd trimester.  More or less exactly waht Roe V. Wade  says

Now let's consider the protestors vs. the legislatures' position on aid to the poor
well the Old testament says this (in hundreds of places, this is also why israel gets wiped out by the Babylonians):
Ezekiel 16:49
"'Now this was the sin of your sister Sodom: She and her daughters were arrogant, overfed and unconcerned; they did not help the poor and needy. "

and then Jesus siad more than a little on this subject as well, but most directly:
Mathew 12:41-42
Then shall he say also to them on the left hand, Depart from me, you cursed, into everlasting fire, prepared for the devil and his angels: 42For I was an hungered, and you gave me no meat: I was thirsty, and you gave me no drink

 and then of course we have James, the brother of Jesus amplifying this point:

II James 2:14-16
 14What does it profit, my brothers, though a man say he has faith, and have not works? can faith save him? 15If a brother or sister be naked, and destitute of daily food, 16And one of you say to them, Depart in peace, be you warmed and filled; notwithstanding you give them not those things which are needful to the body; what does it profit? ...

As does Jesus personal favorite Apostle, John:

I John 3:17
If anyone has material possessions and sees a brother or sister in need but has no pity on them, how can the love of God be that person?
2013-07-16 04:21:54 PM  
2 votes:

OnlyM3: Bung_Howdy [TotalFark]


were they demonstrating from Republican created "free speech zones"?

ericpetersautos.com

courtesy of George W Bush and cronies

[dakiniland.files.wordpress.com image 600x392]

Irony of irony.
That "free speech zone photo you provide is of the Democratic Convention, 2008
link

Nice lie. Do you, like your hero believe that if you tell it often enough people will believe it?



"The most prominent examples were those created by the United States Secret Service for President George W. Bush and other members of his administration. Free speech zones existed in limited forms prior to the Presidency of George W. Bush; it was during Bush's presidency that their scope was greatly expanded."

fark your alternate reality
2013-07-16 03:37:45 PM  
2 votes:
Well, to be fair "the right of the people to peacefully assemble and petition the government for the redress of thier grievances" is like, all the way at the END of the first Amendment, and it DOES have a lot of words, so can the NC legislature really be blamed for saying "TL/DR"?

and this makes me wonder:
Republican groups planned a rally Tuesday afternoon to thank GOP legislators for pushing views the groups support into law, said Mike Rusher, a spokesman for the North Carolina Republican Party.
"We have a lot of Republicans across the state that wanted to do something to show some appreciation to the legislators. A lot of the media attention has centered around the protests, which they feel and we also feel is getting a lot of unnecessary coverage," he said.
While Tuesday's one-time rally is aimed at countering the Monday demonstrations, Republicans also want to buck up GOP lawmakers for coming decisions on a tax overhaul and requiring voters to show identification when voting, Rusher said.
"We're very excited to even be in a position to discuss tax reform in North Carolina," he said. "The tax code is long overdue of being updated and this is a conversation in North Carolina hasn't been able to have."


 wanna lay bets on whether that rally is declared "unlawful" or not?
2013-07-16 03:18:05 PM  
2 votes:

nekom: bdub77: Was at the protest yesterday. It's not as dramatic as they are making it. Thousands of people come. The people going to jail are volunteering to go to jail. You can go into the NC General Assembly and protest, you can even sing and clap and support the people being arrested for a while. They give you a five minute warning, only if you continue after the five minutes will they arrest you for civil disobedience. The cops there were very cool, they explain everything if you discuss it with them. Yes something like 800 people TOTAL have been arrested since the start of the rallies - but this was rally #11. It seems there are more and more people coming out each rally.

We are getting good crowds. I urge people in NC to come out and show their support for the people there.

CSB: Met Rev. William Barber (basically the leader of the protests) yesterday on the way to the protest as he was just getting out of his car.

[i.imgur.com image 606x841]

It was a good rally. Hot as balls yesterday too.

What you said makes perfect sense, but... aren't the police a little pissed for having to arrest people there instead of real criminals?  If it were my department and I had any say in it, I'd instruct all of the officers to just let it go.


Do cops really care who gets arrested? Maybe some of them, but I digress.

I asked my friend yesterday about this who is a lawyer, she's said basically they should just give out citations instead of arresting people, but they've created a precedent from the beginning for arresting people, so I don't think they'll turn back now. It's not like the jails are filling up, they process you and you're out after 4 hours or so. Oddly enough, you can really only be arrested once, after that the state can apparently press more charges against you like trespassing. So all the people being arrested are being arrested for the first time.

The NCGA is only scheduled to be in session another week or so, they are trying to work out a budget though and supposedly the House and Senate can't agree on the budget, so who knows how much longer they'll be in session. It's costing the state a bunch of money, but these guys don't really care. I think once this long-ass session stops the protests might also cease, but I don't know for certain. In the end the budget will probably be a total disaster, the GOP in NC have their heads up their asses.
2013-07-17 01:49:38 AM  
1 votes:

austerity101: TOSViolation: austerity101: TOSViolation: Contraception is not murder.  The bill is not about removing choice.

THE BILL IS ABOUT REQUIRING YOU TO MAKE UP YOUR farkING MIND IN THE FIRST TWENTY farkING WEEKS!

Contraception is making up your mind BEFORE you do anything, and is commendable.

A lot of birth defects and other potentially fatal problems arise  after 20 weeks.  What then?  Are you just stuck?

Yes.

Well, that isn't acceptable.


Well then. Lets extend that a little. By that reasoning it should be acceptable to abort a baby/ child/ adult who develops any potentially fatal problems. people used to do that once, but it was considered barbaric and inhumane. Hope you and yours stay healthy.
2013-07-17 01:15:20 AM  
1 votes:

TOSViolation: austerity101: TOSViolation: Contraception is not murder.  The bill is not about removing choice.

THE BILL IS ABOUT REQUIRING YOU TO MAKE UP YOUR farkING MIND IN THE FIRST TWENTY farkING WEEKS!

Contraception is making up your mind BEFORE you do anything, and is commendable.

A lot of birth defects and other potentially fatal problems arise  after 20 weeks.  What then?  Are you just stuck?

Yes.


Well, that isn't acceptable.
2013-07-17 01:02:21 AM  
1 votes:

austerity101: TOSViolation: Contraception is not murder.  The bill is not about removing choice.

THE BILL IS ABOUT REQUIRING YOU TO MAKE UP YOUR farkING MIND IN THE FIRST TWENTY farkING WEEKS!

Contraception is making up your mind BEFORE you do anything, and is commendable.

A lot of birth defects and other potentially fatal problems arise  after 20 weeks.  What then?  Are you just stuck?


Yes.
2013-07-16 11:54:30 PM  
1 votes:

Pacfanweb: All this is, is the Republican finally control the House and Senate for the first time in over 100 years, and these idiots don't like it.

So instead of protesting peacefully where they're allowed to, they go where they're not, and get arrested.   And it's getting them nowhere.


No.  They actually go where they are allowed, but then they stay longer than they are allowed to the point of unlawful trespass or whatever it becomes.

It's like a person coming up to ring your doorbell.  They can't just pitch a tent on your porch, and refuse to leave.

All of the people, who have been arrested, were given fair warning, a clear explanation of the offense, and plenty of opportunity to avoid arrest.

They CHOSE to be arrested so they can play the martyr.
2013-07-16 11:51:38 PM  
1 votes:

PunGent: The interesting thing to me will be what the pro-lifers do in NC (and TX) once they've shut down the last abortion provider.

Because some of them are NOT just going to go home quietly.

My bet is they'll work on contraception next.


Contraception is not murder.  The bill is not about removing choice.

THE BILL IS ABOUT REQUIRING YOU TO MAKE UP YOUR farkING MIND IN THE FIRST TWENTY farkING WEEKS!

Contraception is making up your mind BEFORE you do anything, and is commendable.
2013-07-16 09:53:15 PM  
1 votes:
All this is, is the Republican finally control the House and Senate for the first time in over 100 years, and these idiots don't like it.

So instead of protesting peacefully where they're allowed to, they go where they're not, and get arrested.   And it's getting them nowhere.
2013-07-16 06:44:40 PM  
1 votes:
A woman's right to kill the unborn must never be questioned. That's carved in stone somewhere, Maybe over the Women's toilets at Auschwitz. Yes, yes .. make fetus lampshades ...
2013-07-16 04:43:10 PM  
1 votes:

Ring of Fire: Siochain:

Also, TFA says the GOP was organizing a protest for today.  Did they arrest any of those protestors?

I just looked it up they are supposed to start at 5.  I highly doubt anyone will be arrested.


Of course only about 25 people will show up
2013-07-16 04:41:22 PM  
1 votes:
These Republicans will take your children and your loved ones and send them to resource wars around the world.

Banning abortion means there's less of a chance of some GOP Senator's son being drafted and killed in combat.

Which is a good thing to the GOP.

Or had you forgotten the 15 month combat tours with no time off? The under-armored vehicles being up-armored with salvaged materials from the dump?

They'll take your son--or daughter now thanks to the changes in combat rules--and grind them up for British Petroleum, Halliburton and any other corporate giant who wants to improve their corporate profits.
2013-07-16 04:09:46 PM  
1 votes:

SordidEuphemism: DubtodaIll: To be fair I'd say NC is the best run state in the south.

It's the most comfortable deck chair on the Titanic.


Truly. We exchanged a pack of corrupt criminals for a bunch of petty despots.
2013-07-16 04:07:36 PM  
1 votes:

DubtodaIll: To be fair I'd say NC is the best run state in the south.


It's the most comfortable deck chair on the Titanic.
2013-07-16 03:59:31 PM  
1 votes:
America is farked
2013-07-16 03:57:10 PM  
1 votes:

RedVentrue: Moral Monday? Yeah where you support the Moral right to kill your offspring.


Yes, while they're still not human, and are unable to perceive the nature of life and death.  As opposed to bringing them into a world for the sole purpose of suffering for RedVenture's amusement.
2013-07-16 03:56:50 PM  
1 votes:
Did anyone take off their shirt and spin it around their head like a helicopter?

If not, Petey Pablo would has a sad.
2013-07-16 03:45:57 PM  
1 votes:
Bung_Howdy [TotalFark]


were they demonstrating from Republican created "free speech zones"?

ericpetersautos.com

courtesy of George W Bush and cronies


dakiniland.files.wordpress.com

Irony of irony.
That "free speech zone photo you provide is of the Democratic Convention, 2008
link

Nice lie. Do you, like your hero believe that if you tell it often enough people will believe it?

2013-07-16 03:44:42 PM  
1 votes:

fredklein: bdub77: You can go into the NC General Assembly and protest, you can even sing and clap and support the people being arrested for a while. They give you a five minute warning, only if you continue after the five minutes will they arrest you for civil disobedience.

Um, NO.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.


You got to to it before me. Arresting anybody that is peacefully protesting is illegal. Every single person involved in arresting peaceful demonstrators is breaking the law and should be arrested themselves. False arrest is a felony, and should be treated as such.

Personally I do not feel that nonviolent protests work anymore and that if people really want to make something happen they need to start killing not chanting.
2013-07-16 03:34:46 PM  
1 votes:
GOP winning the hearts and minds of women and minorities one arrest at a time
2013-07-16 03:33:21 PM  
1 votes:
Well, I'm glad I was able to post before some asshole turned this into a partisan issue instead of the sickening violation of civil rights it actually is.
2013-07-16 03:23:06 PM  
1 votes:
Just singin' and clappin'? Man, what the hell happened?
 
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