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(The Daily Show)   Jon Oliver of The Daily Show lays Zimmerman blame at the feet of a) a poor job by the prosecution b) the incompetent jury c) everyone's favorite Fark tag   (thedailyshow.com) divider line 211
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2013-07-17 09:16:24 AM

jakomo002: Rawhead Rex: The kiddo got what he deserved...
Blah, blah, blah everything else.
He had Zimmerman in full mount...wailing away and slamming his head into the concrete.
REGARDLESS of how the incident ended up there...
Once it was there, once the kid was on his way to killing him...or at least, farking him up very badly...
I say shoot the farker.
He did.
And was found innocent.
That's about that.
I understand the kid's family is upset...but hey, no one told him to attack the guy...mouth him, flip him off, run away...
But full mount and beat the guy bloody?
I just don't feel sorry for the kiddo.

Karma says you'll get what YOU deserve.


I AM!
I'm closing on a beautiful new home tomorrow!
Very richly rewarded for my efforts, thank you...
 
2013-07-17 09:19:55 AM

way south: I remember the days when the use of violence (or the threat of violence) for politiical coercion was, itself, a punishable crime.

The authorities invented their own hard place by letting outside provocateurs lead the media around by the nose. They should have used their position to explain the situation and leave the matter to be resolved in civil court.
At least there the Martin family would be allowed to submit feelings as evidence to win a judgement against Zimmerman. As it is they took it to a court with a higher standard and lost, giving Zimmerman the option of future immuty.

They farked up the process.
Farking up the process tends to get lawyers disbarred.


All things considered, this one was a closer call than, say the OJ case... THAT was one where the prosecution and the cops screwed the pooch. People biatch about the "Dream Team", but the fact of the matter is that the cops let people parade through the crime scene like it was an attraction at Disneyland, and the defense team took advantage of it. At least in this case, it was more a question of where 'Stand Your Ground' ends, and provocation begins.

IMO, Zimmerman should have been held accountable for his actions, and at least have been found guilty of manslaughter, but either way, the prosecution didn't fark the pooch as badly as they did with OJ.

/And I didn't pay attention enough to figure out how that Casey Anthony biatch got off...
 
2013-07-17 09:27:47 AM

Mattyb710: CheapEngineer: http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/asshole

You can't seem to understand how McDonalds screwed up in that case, and I'm the asshole? The woman needed skin grafts for farks sake.


I understand that McDonalds, for whatever dumbass reason, served their coffee at lava temperature.

But as I understand coffee, and the normal uses therein, it's not designed to be worn in place of pants. It comes in a cup, and once you buy it it's incumbent upon you to 1) know it's warm and 2) treat it accordingly by *not* trying to drive a car with a cup of fresh, possibly hot coffee *between your frigging thighs*. If you don't have a cupholder, you can buy 'em for 99c at Wal-Mart that clip on the door and hold a cup, *out of your frigging lap*.

If you want coffee that's safe to pour into your lap, you may have a market for that but I'm gonna assume most people wanna drink it. Yes, 1300 degrees is too hot for internal consumption of beverages, so there is merit to chapping McDonald's ass over the temperature of coffee. However, blaming skin grafts on misuse of the product is the issue I have with the entire affair.

"Not to be worn as pants" printed on the menu and the cup covers 75% of the problem, "turn down the frigging heater" takes care of the other 25%.

Comparing coffee sold by McDonalds to Gun Sales was frigging stupid, intentionally inflammatory, and the reason @sshole fits.

\I mean I like my bullets pre-heated in the microwave, and yet sometimes they go off prematurely
\\I'm gonna sue the bullet manufacturer, that's dangerous
\\\see how well that works?
 
2013-07-17 09:37:58 AM

Mikey1969: the prosecution didn't fark the pooch as badly


It's not that they didn't fark the pooch, it's that they couldn't even decide which pooch to fark.
They inadvertently gave a great defense closing when they should have had a consistent narrative by that point. When the Prosecution can't even decide which set of circumstances best fit their "what if" case....they knew it was a lost cause.
 
2013-07-17 09:48:38 AM

Mikey1969: way south: I remember the days when the use of violence (or the threat of violence) for politiical coercion was, itself, a punishable crime.

The authorities invented their own hard place by letting outside provocateurs lead the media around by the nose. They should have used their position to explain the situation and leave the matter to be resolved in civil court.
At least there the Martin family would be allowed to submit feelings as evidence to win a judgement against Zimmerman. As it is they took it to a court with a higher standard and lost, giving Zimmerman the option of future immuty.

They farked up the process.
Farking up the process tends to get lawyers disbarred.

All things considered, this one was a closer call than, say the OJ case... THAT was one where the prosecution and the cops screwed the pooch. People biatch about the "Dream Team", but the fact of the matter is that the cops let people parade through the crime scene like it was an attraction at Disneyland, and the defense team took advantage of it. At least in this case, it was more a question of where 'Stand Your Ground' ends, and provocation begins.

IMO, Zimmerman should have been held accountable for his actions, and at least have been found guilty of manslaughter, but either way, the prosecution didn't fark the pooch as badly as they did with OJ.

/And I didn't pay attention enough to figure out how that Casey Anthony biatch got off...


If I recall, She got off based on feelings and overcharging.
For whatever reason the Jury though the sentences offered were excessive. They didn't have a lesser option so they simply let her go.

With Zimmerman I think the manslaughter charge didn't quite fit.  Murder 2 was absurd and 3 was right out.
The jury spent the better part of two days trying to jam a square peg into a round hole when the prosecution offered up a triangle peg of negligence.
Negligent how?  He intentionally pulled the trigger for what he claimed (and the Jury agreed) were justified reasons.
They couldn't find something to send him to jail for, so the jury shed their tears and let him go.

They might have succeeded if they offered manslaughter and time served to Zimmerman himself last year as a plea. But the demand that someone go to jail for this tempted the prosecution to go big. They ended up going home.

They screwed up and people said so from the start.
Maybe they should pay the price for it.
 
2013-07-17 10:17:04 AM
It was especially interesting how even TDS, which usually does at least SOME research instead of just parroting headlines from other networks, failed to realize that Martin disappeared from Zimmerman's view for over 4 minutes.  Which was ample time to get to his home only a few hundred feet away, but instead chose to return from his position out of Zimmerman's view, to confront Zimmerman.   Martin didn't come back to where he last saw Zimmerman to give him hugs, people, he came to teach the cracka a lesson.  Martin's behavior alone is what got him killed.

Shame on TDS for joining in on the smear campaign against an innocent man.
 
2013-07-17 11:20:01 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: he came to teach the cracka a lesson


Yet another "fact".  With all these facts to get out in the open I'm surprised the trial was so short!
 
2013-07-17 12:09:55 PM

GnomePaladin: BraveNewCheneyWorld: he came to teach the cracka a lesson

Yet another "fact".  With all these facts to get out in the open I'm surprised the trial was so short!


Ah, so your side can pretend they're able to read GZ's mind and intent without even any circumstantial evidence, but I'm not allowed to do the same with TM with circumstantial evidence?  Is that how it works?
 
2013-07-17 01:15:49 PM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ah, so your side can pretend they're able to read GZ's mind and intent without even any circumstantial evidence, but I'm not allowed to do the same with TM with circumstantial evidence?  Is that how it works?


Find something in this thread or others that would indicate I'm on a "side" and you may have a point.

Sorry that you outed yourself along with others in this thread and that I pointed it out, but it's all there in black and white (heh) for everyone to see.
 
2013-07-17 02:35:44 PM

GnomePaladin: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ah, so your side can pretend they're able to read GZ's mind and intent without even any circumstantial evidence, but I'm not allowed to do the same with TM with circumstantial evidence?  Is that how it works?

Find something in this thread or others that would indicate I'm on a "side" and you may have a point.

Sorry that you outed yourself along with others in this thread and that I pointed it out, but it's all there in black and white (heh) for everyone to see.


Yeah, I'm sorry I outed myself as someone who cares more about facts than keeping "white guilt" at bay.   Sorry you see facts as racist.
 
2013-07-17 11:43:08 PM
Meanwhile, as the argument continues...
 Where's the media coverage on all the black-on-black violence?

"On a cold and gray Chicago mornin'
A poor little baby child is born
In the ghetto
And his mama cries..."
 
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