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(Talking Points Memo)   Zimmerman juror has decided to not write a book after realizing no one cares about what actually happened, just what they think happened   (livewire.talkingpointsmemo.com) divider line 185
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2013-07-16 09:01:59 AM
It's going to take a lot more than one book from an expert who heard all of the testimony to nudge me from my puddle-deep, irrational assumptions.
 
2013-07-16 09:05:44 AM
There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.
 
2013-07-16 09:08:23 AM

Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurorsmedia profiting off their cases of trials they taint with spectacle.


NBC owes America billions of damages.
 
2013-07-16 09:11:00 AM
I'll just re-read all our threads here.  They were....fun.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-16 09:11:34 AM
People aren't interested in this case, it's just an opportunity to be outraged over racism or whatever else they want to be outraged about.

It's an opportunity to vent their opinions.
 
2013-07-16 09:13:00 AM
If there really all that much a juror can reveal when the whole trial was televised?
 
2013-07-16 09:13:09 AM
White people problems.
 
2013-07-16 09:13:36 AM

vpb: People aren't interested in this case, it's just an opportunity to be outraged over racism or whatever else they want to be outraged about.

It's an opportunity to vent their opinions.


They're using it as an opportunity to stand on Trayvon Martin's coffin and use it as a soapbox.
 
2013-07-16 09:15:15 AM

Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.


Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.
 
2013-07-16 09:15:46 AM
actually only one person on earth knows what DID happen, and he did not testify in the trial hth
 
2013-07-16 09:16:04 AM
So I've had a couple of days to digest this thing, and I've come to a couple of conclusions.

The real problem is that Mr. Martin wasn't armed with a handgun. If he'd busted a cap in this guy when he ran up the footpath towards him, there wouldn't have been a problem.  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.
 
2013-07-16 09:16:15 AM

Langston: It's going to take a lot more than one book from an expert who heard all of the testimony to nudge me from my puddle-deep, irrational assumptions.


Yes, jurors are "experts."

I listen to Neil DeGrasse Tyson's podcast, so I'm an expert on astrophysics.
 
2013-07-16 09:17:00 AM
Guess Newsmax declined to buy cases of the book to give away, so the potential sales just weren't there.
 
2013-07-16 09:17:17 AM
MFAWG:  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.

I think your solution is basically Chicago.
 
2013-07-16 09:17:24 AM
You know what the most ironic part of all this is?  If George Zimmerman didn't profile African-Americans previously, he's almost certainly going to do it now.
 
2013-07-16 09:17:33 AM
The amount of disinformation retards still believe about this case is staggering, and yeah, the media is absofarkinglutely to blame.
 
2013-07-16 09:19:21 AM
Wouldn't the only people interested in said book be the people who obsessively followed the story anyway?  I mean, unless, he admits to killing Martin in cold blood for shiats and giggles, what's the point?
 
2013-07-16 09:19:43 AM

Jackson Herring: actually only one person on earth knows what DID happen, and he did not testify in the trial hth


Why should he have?  It was his absolute right under the highest law of the land that he didn't have to testify and that we should make no judgments about him whether he did or didn't testify on his own behalf.

He had nothing to gain, and everything to lose.
 
2013-07-16 09:19:56 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.

Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.


Seriously? Wow.

If he'd been convicted and a juror said something like that, there'd be so many appeals flying, it would block out the sun.
 
2013-07-16 09:20:09 AM

1derful: MFAWG:  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.

I think your solution is basically Chicago.


I'm being serious. Liberals need to embrace the 2nd Amendment as a civil rights issue, and work towards leveling the playing field.
 
2013-07-16 09:20:31 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.

Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.


You mean the pre-trial interviews the state introduced as evidence during the trial? Just checking.
 
2013-07-16 09:20:38 AM

Langston: It's going to take a lot more than one book from an expert who heard all of the testimony to nudge me from my puddle-deep, irrational assumptions.


I DONT NEED NO BOOK TO TELL ME IT ISNT SAFE TO BE A BLACK TEEN IN AMERICA!!!!!!
 
2013-07-16 09:20:44 AM

Satanic_Hamster: Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.

Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.


What pre-trial iinterviews were not introduced as evidence?  The Hannity interview and 5 other video statements were all shown in court.
 
2013-07-16 09:21:18 AM

Dog Welder: If there really all that much a juror can reveal when the whole trial was televised?


Orgies in the jury room?

Satanic_Hamster: Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.

Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.


Pathetic.  Too bad we can't have a retroactive mistrial ruling.

I was on an ugly 14 day case.  10-12 hour days.  Capital fraud against the state (FL).  I was foreman.  I was in utter disbelief that all my fellow jurors could follow instructions and that we deliberated only on the case presented.  Granted, the state had an iron-clad case against the defendant.  But still - jurors, and jurors from FL.
 
2013-07-16 09:21:27 AM
Knee jerk reactions are common in situations like this. No real evidence to see, so the whites think the black kid was up to no good (cause he's black) and the blacks think he's a victim, as the whitey always victimizes the black and only looks at them as criminals. So everyone spews forth their views without knowing the facts, as the only ones who REALLY know what happened were there. And one really can't testify.

So everyone spews their derp all over the news, and all the race baiter's jump on the bandwagon to fire the flames of discord. THEY don't even know what happened. They just jump on a soap box and yell "JUSTICE" when they really have no idea what actually occurred, nor do they care. Just another situation they can take advantage of for personal profit and camera time. Same old story, different day.
 
2013-07-16 09:22:10 AM
blogs.post-gazette.com

www.freedomsphoenix.com
 
2013-07-16 09:22:20 AM

Jackson Herring: actually only one person on earth knows what DID happen, and he did not testify in the trial hth


So you are saying Zimmerman didnt know what happened?

Precious would say: that's r..........sir.
 
2013-07-16 09:22:29 AM

Diogenes: Orgies in the jury room?


I might just reconsider going to jury duty if that were the case
 
2013-07-16 09:23:04 AM
The concensus on Fark seems to be that it was within Zim's legal right to use self-defense; but the verdict still leaves a shiatty taste in Fark's mouth. Probably the next step would be to have a national discussion on America's failing cultu--  Oh look! A pancake!
 
2013-07-16 09:23:24 AM

turtle553: Satanic_Hamster: Aarontology: There needs to be a blanket ban on jurors profiting off their cases.

Heard some exerts of her interview from last night.  Apparently she based her decision on what Zimmerman claimed happened in his pre-trial interviews, not on evidence introduced at trial.

She's a moron for trying to profit off a trial and a moron for admitting that.

What pre-trial iinterviews were not introduced as evidence?  The Hannity interview and 5 other video statements were all shown in court.


Shhh, your disrupting the narrative.
 
2013-07-16 09:24:04 AM
Rachael Jeantel (aka, Jabba the Slut) said she thought it was gonna be a "racist" verdict because she saw that the jury was made up of 5 white women and a Hispanic lady and she knows white people are racists and that the Hispanic lady was pressured into agreeing to a not guilty verdict.
 
2013-07-16 09:24:09 AM
You're......oops.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-16 09:24:20 AM

MFAWG: The real problem is that Mr. Martin wasn't armed with a handgun. If he'd busted a cap in this guy when he ran up the footpath towards him, there wouldn't have been a problem.  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.


I think people in many places want that.  They think life should be like a Western where everyone has a gun and you can shoot whoever you think is a bad guy with no one giving you trouble about it.
 
2013-07-16 09:24:30 AM
Summary: Hispanic guy profiles black guy. Black guy runs. Hispanic guy gives up and heads back to car. Black guy ends up assaulting Hispanic guy ( guess he was right about the profiling thing ). Black guy would have won fight, but Hispanic guy was armed.

The Lesson: If some creepy dude is following you, run home, call cops, yell 'fire.' But, whatever you do, don't assault him. Creepy dude is armed.
 
2013-07-16 09:24:46 AM
I've seen him eat enough deer penis and bull's testicles to judge him for myself, thank you.
 
2013-07-16 09:26:44 AM

GORDON: Langston: It's going to take a lot more than one book from an expert who heard all of the testimony to nudge me from my puddle-deep, irrational assumptions.

I DONT NEED NO BOOK TO TELL ME IT ISNT SAFE TO BE A BLACK TEEN IN AMERICA!!!!!!


What is the answer...stay out of black neighborhoods and Chicago???
 
2013-07-16 09:26:51 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: Diogenes: Orgies in the jury room?

I might just reconsider going to jury duty if that were the case


12 angry men.

/just sayin'
 
2013-07-16 09:27:06 AM

""The potential book was always intended to be a respectful observation of the trial from my and my husband's perspectives solely and it was to be an observation that our 'system' of justice can get so complicated that it creates a conflict with our 'spirit' of justice," juror B37 said in a written statement, as quoted by Reuters."


Well, this is why God created "12 Angry Men".

 
2013-07-16 09:27:21 AM
People will only be interested in this until another local news story is catapulted to national prominence to feed our 24-hour news cycle.
 
2013-07-16 09:27:51 AM

topcon: The amount of disinformation retards still believe about this case is staggering, and yeah, the media is absofarkinglutely to blame.


So you're cool with little dicked morons stalking and killing teenagers for fun? Well OK. Just remember, since stalking and murdering someone is now effectively legal in Florida, anyone who feels like it can do it to you.
 
2013-07-16 09:28:30 AM
There are two types of people in this world. People who watched the trial to actually learn what happened... and the other Trayvon supporters.
 
vpb [TotalFark]
2013-07-16 09:28:50 AM

MFAWG: I'm being serious. Liberals need to embrace the 2nd Amendment as a civil rights issue, and work towards leveling the playing field.


Yeee-Haww!


viroqua-wisconsin.com
 
2013-07-16 09:29:05 AM
I heard that some part of her interview on the radio this morning, she basically said they both were partially at fault for the situation that occurred but legally Zimmerman acted within bounds.. It's what a lot of the more levelheaded people were saying in these threads to be shouted down by the Zimmerfan  trolls who were claiming they were the ones who know because they have been following this so closely.
 
2013-07-16 09:29:25 AM

vpb: MFAWG: The real problem is that Mr. Martin wasn't armed with a handgun. If he'd busted a cap in this guy when he ran up the footpath towards him, there wouldn't have been a problem.  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.

I think people in many places want that.  They think life should be like a Western where everyone has a gun and you can shoot whoever you think is a bad guy with no one giving you trouble about it.


Well, give them what they want. Loosen restrictions on ownership, carry, all that. Everyone gets a 4 hour block of instruction on the basic infantry weapon when they register for selective service. Private non profits can help those that don't have the means to acquire a suitable amount of firepower. Set up ranges in the inner cities.
 
2013-07-16 09:30:05 AM

WhippingBoy: 12 angry men.

/just sayin'


If I have to suffer one lemon party for a DUI case for a three day sequestered session with ladies, I'll take my lemons with pride.
 
2013-07-16 09:30:36 AM

MFAWG: So I've had a couple of days to digest this thing, and I've come to a couple of conclusions.

The real problem is that Mr. Martin wasn't armed with a handgun. If he'd busted a cap in this guy when he ran up the footpath towards him, there wouldn't have been a problem.  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.


Fark liberals were outraged at the story of giving free shotguns to residents in poor high crime areas..
 
2013-07-16 09:30:44 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Knee jerk reactions are common in situations like this. No real evidence to see, so the whites think the black kid was up to no good (cause he's black) and the blacks think he's a victim, as the whitey always victimizes the black and only looks at them as criminals.


Or the whites just don't care, to which the blacks react negatively to which in turn the whites also react negatively.
It's the cycle of race - a race cycle, if you will.
 
2013-07-16 09:31:13 AM

Cucullen: topcon: The amount of disinformation retards still believe about this case is staggering, and yeah, the media is absofarkinglutely to blame.

So you're cool with little dicked morons stalking and killing teenagers for fun? Well OK. Just remember, since stalking and murdering someone is now effectively legal in Florida, anyone who feels like it can do it to you.


If only there was some way to not attack a person and slam their head into the sidewalk until he shoots and kills us.  Until there is a way to keep that from happening, none of us are safe.
 
2013-07-16 09:31:48 AM

HectorSchwartz: Summary: Hispanic guy profiles black guy. Black guy runs. Hispanic guy gives up and heads back to car. Black guy ends up assaulting Hispanic guy ( guess he was right about the profiling thing ). Black guy would have won fight, but Hispanic guy was armed.

The Lesson: If some creepy dude is following you, run home, call cops, yell 'fire.' But, whatever you do, don't assault him. Creepy dude is armed.


No no no no no no no. Not "Hispanic"... WHITE. Calling Zimmerman "hispanic" significantly diminishes the amount of political outrage that you are able to manufacture. In this case, Zimmerman was white. If the situation was different (for example, if Zimmerman was shot by a "more white" person), then you could call Zimmerman "hispanic" to show the rampant racism that whites have for hispanics.
 
2013-07-16 09:32:09 AM

MyRandomName: MFAWG: So I've had a couple of days to digest this thing, and I've come to a couple of conclusions.

The real problem is that Mr. Martin wasn't armed with a handgun. If he'd busted a cap in this guy when he ran up the footpath towards him, there wouldn't have been a problem.  So the solution is that we need to work to arm the poor.

Fark liberals were outraged at the story of giving free shotguns to residents in poor high crime areas..


This changed things. And I'm not talking about arming them just in their homes. An armed society is a polite society, amirite?
 
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