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2013-07-16 01:29:09 PM

Joe Blowme: JAGChem82: Joe Blowme: Four Children Gunned Down in Chicago During Zimmerman Trial

whar outrage? Whar Jesse? Whar Al? Will Stevie boycott?

Like your ass cares about inner-city children.  Way to deflect, yet again.  I swear, you all think that black people must have Al or Jesse on our speeddials or something. shiat, 95% of the people invoking their names are white conservatives going into their biatch fits about "reverse racism", "why can't I say the n-word", etc. etc.  And gangsta rap culture? As if it's any different from these rednecks in GA or guidos in NJ, but you'll defend those types to hell and back for some white solidarity.


I work with inner city youth asshat, so yea i dont care. So instead of agreeing there is a problem you deflect with the tried and true.." BUT MOMMY!! BILLIY DOES IT TOO!!!!" sounds alot like but BUSH!!!
and it would appear the only racist here is you, as you are the one using epithets'. Keep ignoring it, that will make everything better.


Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.
 
2013-07-16 01:29:25 PM
I know just what to do with this! Public hangings, aired on primetime TV.

/beats the hell out of everything else on
 
2013-07-16 01:30:54 PM

doubled99: "Hey, I'm in a group that's different and separate from you. Don't pretend to understand me or my life experience, because you can't.
But don't you DARE make any comment that infers my group is different or separate, you racist!"


IMPOSSIBLE.

A speaker can only imply. It is up to the listener to infer.
 
2013-07-16 01:31:46 PM

Vector R: I know just what to do with this! Public hangings, aired on primetime TV.

/beats the hell out of everything else on


"Would you like to know more?"
 
2013-07-16 01:33:59 PM
 Pangea"Hey, I'm in a group that's different and separate from you. Don't pretend to understand me or my life experience, because you can't.
But don't you DARE make any comment that infers my group is different or separate, you racist!"

IMPOSSIBLE.

A speaker can only imply. It is up to the listener to infer.



you son of a biatch
 
2013-07-16 01:37:48 PM

JAGChem82: Joe Blowme: JAGChem82: Joe Blowme: Four Children Gunned Down in Chicago During Zimmerman Trial

whar outrage? Whar Jesse? Whar Al? Will Stevie boycott?

Like your ass cares about inner-city children.  Way to deflect, yet again.  I swear, you all think that black people must have Al or Jesse on our speeddials or something. shiat, 95% of the people invoking their names are white conservatives going into their biatch fits about "reverse racism", "why can't I say the n-word", etc. etc.  And gangsta rap culture? As if it's any different from these rednecks in GA or guidos in NJ, but you'll defend those types to hell and back for some white solidarity.


I work with inner city youth asshat, so yea i dont care. So instead of agreeing there is a problem you deflect with the tried and true.." BUT MOMMY!! BILLIY DOES IT TOO!!!!" sounds alot like but BUSH!!!
and it would appear the only racist here is you, as you are the one using epithets'. Keep ignoring it, that will make everything better.

Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.



Why is it not the same? Who are you you to decide?
I did not defend anyone you accuse me of defending, but keep farking that chicken if it makes you feel better about being a racist asshat. There is nothing funny about working with them, its actualy sad when they tell me what their peer groups and care givers say about other people who are not black... lets just say its not only old white people who say vile racist shiat and i am starting to think todays generation hate hispanics more than whites... albeit this is just from personal experience but is that not the way our world view is shaped? Personal experiences?
 
2013-07-16 01:41:56 PM
At least some people are taking a break from the rioting to make an honest buck

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2013-07-16 01:44:21 PM
Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.

It's always great when someone says something so stupid and self-defeating there is no need to mock it.
 
2013-07-16 01:44:44 PM
Wonder how many of the looters were white.
 
2013-07-16 01:48:14 PM
So, a little test marketing here - would you or would you not, at this point in time, buy this new brand of Trayvon Snack Crackers?
 
2013-07-16 01:51:34 PM

JAGChem82: Greymalkin: DROxINxTHExWIND: tenpoundsofcheese: DROxINxTHExWIND: SecretAgentWoman: Way to go to, guys!

Proving that racial stereotypes, indeed, have a basis in reality.

I guess the G8 Summit should tell us something about people on the far left.

FTFY.

So many different factions of white people who differ from the "normals". Lets see:

> poor white trash
> the far left
> the far right
> neo nazis
>  meathead jocks
> fundamentalists
> Tea Partiers
> hippie scum
> yuppie scum
> guidos
> bikers
> anti-government types

When any of the people in these groups commits an atrocity, its not "white" people who are to blame, its not because "white" people have not been raised properly, its not because white people hate authority, its not because white people are inherently violent. But if a few black people tear something up its a "cultural" thing.

Which is because black people in the USA are a minority or "the other", whites are the majority, so whenever whitey wants to complain about another group of whites they have to find a way to mark them as a minority or other too.   This is not an inherently white trait though, it exists everywhere in the world, humans are universally good at finding ways to identify the other when we want to hate/oppress/kill/ someone.  In India they still have the caste system running socially if not legally, the Irish still hate one another over following the wrong version of Jesus, most of the Middle Eastern Arabs hate along the shiate/Sunni divide even more than they hate the Jews or the Great Satan of America, China has 56 different ethnicities, who were all represented by the good looking/respectable/dominant Han ethnicity at the Olympic games because they didn't want to have ugly children on parade.

So black people are lumped together as a homogenous whole because it is easy to do because they are not the dominant or majority group within the USA, and the only change if they were is that white people would lose a ...


I can see where you're going with this, so I'll respond to you in your response to DRO.  Is their a subset of blacks in America who pride themselves on thuggery? Sure is, I'm not going to deny it, I lived near it in St. Louis and Memphis as a kid and a teen.  But I think what DRO's point is is that, there are blacks who like theatre, science fiction, etc. My parents grew of age in the late 60s early 70s, and they were "saggin" or being gangstaish, or anything like that. Hell, there's a black nerd culture that's probably stronger than the ghetto culture, although you'd never hear it from the media.  Also, to reiterate, if all 40 million black people can be castigated because of a handful of "ignorant Negroes", then we should rip all 210 million white people for the same actions (which have historically negatively affected black people a hell of a lot more) than ours have.

I'm not saying that you are participating in this thought process, but quite a few keyboard racists on Fark have, and they want to deny everything they said once someone calls them out. ...


Or throw out the race baiter label which I've noticed is only thrown at one side but never the other, even when the other side started doing it first. People making negative comments about black people are never given that label, but let anyone comment about that and they get the label thrown on them.  There have been plenty of race baiters on the pro-Zimmerman team, but they don't get that label.
 
2013-07-16 01:52:48 PM

doubled99: Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.

It's always great when someone says something so stupid and self-defeating there is no need to mock it.


What was stupid about it? Are those universal slurs for white people the same way the N-word is used? They aren't? So what the hell are you biatching about me saying them for? Last time I checked, those words were used ubiquitously in TV and other social media.
 
2013-07-16 02:00:09 PM

JAGChem82: doubled99: Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.

It's always great when someone says something so stupid and self-defeating there is no need to mock it.

What was stupid about it? Are those universal slurs for white people the same way the N-word is used? They aren't? So what the hell are you biatching about me saying them for? Last time I checked, those words were used ubiquitously in TV and other social media.


This just in, derogatory remarks are derogatory. To say that there is somehow a scale of power for derogatory remarks gives power to those words, which is precisely the problem. If all derogatory remarks were viewed simply as derogatory and on par with one another, that would solve a lot of problems. Because we have given more weight to some rather than others perpetuates the problem. If people didn't let words affect them and taught that words have no power over you and to rise above it, the foolish person is the one using those remarks. Resorting in violence is not the solution. This is a BASIC principle taught to kids and we even have jingle for it - "Sticks and stones may break my bones but words will never hurt me."

So to answer your question, those slurs have the same exact intent the use of the N-word does. It primarily has to do with context to judge intent. The usage of derogatory language especially as a means to hurt the person(s) in question should not be acceptable, but at the same time the targets of those words should understand that they are in fact just words spoken by small-minded individuals. Knowing that and that alone, should make them feel better.
 
2013-07-16 02:01:14 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: But, white culture is apparently "good" and it is cleansed by removing the undesireables from the culture by calling them something else



Absolutely, by saying, "those people are white trash," we've publically denounced them and removed them from our responsibility. We don't like them, we don't claim them. And you can do the same thing, and you probably should.


The impression among the "wider culture" (ie. white people) is that the average black guy is more than willing to defend the actions of almost any black person as long as non-black people are involved somewhere.


I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.
 
2013-07-16 02:08:43 PM

JAGChem82: doubled99: Rednecks and guidos are epithets? The same people who proudly call themselves that (and NO it ain't the same as black people calling themselves the N-word) This from the same people that whine about not being able to use the N-word? Funny, you work with inner city kids - you sure don't act like it. Again, my last question stands unanswered.

It's always great when someone says something so stupid and self-defeating there is no need to mock it.

What was stupid about it? Are those universal slurs for white people the same way the N-word is used? They aren't? So what the hell are you biatching about me saying them for? Last time I checked, those words were used ubiquitously in TV and other social media.


so if they say it on tv, facebook, and in songs then its ok to say? be sure to let the DOJ know we can all now say nword and not be racist

/willfully obtuse? Trolling? or just plain stupid... you decide
 
2013-07-16 02:12:45 PM
Lol at people who are mad that they can't beat the shiat out of neighborhood watchmen without consequence.
 
2013-07-16 02:14:16 PM
I feel bad that the Martin family lost their son.  That being said, dont just sit there in silence watching all this protesting and rioting knowing full well that your son was a disrespectful troubled piece of shiat.
 
2013-07-16 02:20:56 PM

Magnanimous_J: Absolutely, by saying, "those people are white trash," we've publically denounced them and removed them from our responsibility. We don't like them, we don't claim them. And you can do the same thing, and you probably should.


Like my wife said, "Trash comes in all colors."
 
2013-07-16 02:21:45 PM

Magnanimous_J: DROxINxTHExWIND: But, white culture is apparently "good" and it is cleansed by removing the undesireables from the culture by calling them something else


Absolutely, by saying, "those people are white trash," we've publically denounced them and removed them from our responsibility. We don't like them, we don't claim them. And you can do the same thing, and you probably should.


The impression among the "wider culture" (ie. white people) is that the average black guy is more than willing to defend the actions of almost any black person as long as non-black people are involved somewhere.


I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.



I understand that my answer may be hypocritical and excuse my language, but fark your opinion of me. As an individual, I am not going to walk on egg shells to change an unfounded, negative perception of me anymore than you will. You're trying to make the practice of seperating or demeaning others by calling the trash a noble thing to do. That's bullshiat. The people who label others trash are not doing it so that I and others can easily determine who is "good" and who is "bad". They do it because to elevate themselves above others, to make them feel good about their check-to-check existence. It allows them to say:

"I may not be a success in life, but at least I'm not one of 'them'"
 
2013-07-16 02:25:41 PM

kazikian: It probably IS what Trayvon would have wanted though, no?


If I had been killed like this and I was looking down from heaven or up from hell, I'd be all "fark you all, I want to see the world burn". So yeah, quite probably.
 
2013-07-16 02:31:41 PM
I just watched on TV a group of 5-10 black people punching & kicking a white couple sitting at a bus stop.  If this wasn't about race in the courtroom, it sure is hell is about race now.

Sadly, it is once again a small group of no good thugs becoming a representation of "their" people.
 
2013-07-16 02:36:01 PM
I understand that my answer may be hypocritical and excuse my language, but fark your opinion of me. As an individual, I am not going to walk on egg shells to change an unfounded, negative perception of me anymore than you will. You're trying to make the practice of seperating or demeaning others by calling the trash a noble thing to do. That's bullshiat. The people who label others trash are not doing it so that I and others can easily determine who is "good" and who is "bad". They do it because to elevate themselves above others, to make them feel good about their check-to-check existence. It allows them to say:
"I may not be a success in life, but at least I'm not one of 'them'"


Oh.
You mean the way you do with the label "racist" ?
 
2013-07-16 02:36:36 PM

Joe Blowme: Four Children Gunned Down in Chicago During Zimmerman Trial

whar outrage? Whar Jesse? Whar Al? Will Stevie boycott?


Fta for the different killings:
"police believe the motive was robbery"
"gunned downed... next to the body of a 32 year old man who had gang ties"  (who wears gang ties any more?)
"A gunman got out of a black van and began firing as the boys ran away"

See, in none of those cases was there a "white Hispanic" who claims it was self defense.  Attacks that kill are okay for the media.  Just don't claim self defense and be a "white Hispanic".
A gunman got out of a black van and began firing as the boys ran away - See more at: http://cnsnews.com/news/article/four-children-gunned-down-chicago-dur i ng-zimmerman-trial#sthash.9Kx8KPkw.dpufpolice believe the motive was robbery
police believe the motive was robberypolice believe the motive was robbery
 
2013-07-16 02:45:39 PM

Magnanimous_J: I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.


And why don't the moderate muslims speak out against terrorists more?!??!
 
2013-07-16 02:49:29 PM

doubled99: I understand that my answer may be hypocritical and excuse my language, but fark your opinion of me. As an individual, I am not going to walk on egg shells to change an unfounded, negative perception of me anymore than you will. You're trying to make the practice of seperating or demeaning others by calling the trash a noble thing to do. That's bullshiat. The people who label others trash are not doing it so that I and others can easily determine who is "good" and who is "bad". They do it because to elevate themselves above others, to make them feel good about their check-to-check existence. It allows them to say:
"I may not be a success in life, but at least I'm not one of 'them'"

Oh.
You mean the way you do with the label "racist" ?


For that to be the case, I would have to assume all white people are racist, which I do not. I "label" people racist when they say stupid, racist shiat. Take you, for example...
 
2013-07-16 02:56:04 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Magnanimous_J: DROxINxTHExWIND: But, white culture is apparently "good" and it is cleansed by removing the undesireables from the culture by calling them something else


Absolutely, by saying, "those people are white trash," we've publically denounced them and removed them from our responsibility. We don't like them, we don't claim them. And you can do the same thing, and you probably should.


The impression among the "wider culture" (ie. white people) is that the average black guy is more than willing to defend the actions of almost any black person as long as non-black people are involved somewhere.


I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.


I understand that my answer may be hypocritical and excuse my language, but fark your opinion of me. As an individual, I am not going to walk on egg shells to change an unfounded, negative perception of me anymore than you will. You're trying to make the practice of seperating or demeaning others by calling the trash a noble thing to do. That's bullshiat. The people who label others trash are not doing it so that I and others can easily determine who is "good" and who is "bad". They do it because to elevate themselves above others, to make them feel good about their check-to-check existence. It allows them to say:

"I may not be a success in life, but at least I'm not one of 'them'"



Fine. Have it your way. But while we wait patiently for the enlightened utopia where everyone makes judgments based on reason and wisdom and education, I was just giving you some advice to make your own life easier.


But FYI, if you think "white trash" is just a self-serving stereotype for the middle class, I could show you some things. Creepy little towns built around long dead wood mills. Scabby, skinny, jagged toothed tweekers pimping their sisters for meth money. Next block over are young girls, who can't read and have never had an inoculation and barely speak because their grandfather rapes them every night and won't let them go to school because of "Jay-sus!" A Rottweiler starving to death chained to the porch because his owner is too drunk to remember to feed him.


Trust me, the label is much more than just a way to make myself feel better for driving a 5 year old car without leather.
 
2013-07-16 02:58:39 PM
For that to be the case, I would have to assume all white people are racist, which I do not. I "label" people racist when they say stupid, racist shiat. Take you, for example...

No, it wouldn't. You throw the label out whenever it's convenient, and worse, you actually think you've said something of substance when you use it. That's how you feel superior to others, or at least assuage your own feelings of inferiority.
 
2013-07-16 03:02:16 PM

bulldg4life: Magnanimous_J: I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.

And why don't the moderate muslims speak out against terrorists more?!??!


Trick question, there are no moderate muslims??
 
2013-07-16 03:04:42 PM
Last night was incredibly frustrating to watch. As an L.A. resident, a black person, and just a human being...I hated the way we were being represented. There were peaceful protests going on as well, but of course, that's not nearly as newsworthy as the dumbasses causing mayhem. "If it bleeds, it leads" as the old saying goes.

What the idiots last night don't realize (and surely don't care) is how much their actions hurt the overall message behind the protests, and how badly they damage race relations in general. I'd love to see one of them interviewed today, away from their friends, and asked what it is they think they accomplished last night. I'd love to have them watch the raw footage that we all saw, spot themselves in the crowd, and explain what was going through their minds. They wouldn't have any rational answers, of course, because there's no good explanation for it.

My biggest takeaway from last night is how powerful group-think and peer pressure can be. Any one of those dudes just walking down the street by themselves would not jump onto the roof of a car, or intimidate a moving car, or knock shiat down at Walmart, etc. But you get a bunch of guys together egging each other on and anything is possible. The whole thing honestly just makes me farking sad.
 
2013-07-16 03:06:11 PM

bulldg4life: Magnanimous_J: I'm not saying that you guys all need to start wearing Land's End sweaters all the time, but publically making distinctions between yourselves and the "less lawful" elements in your culture might go a long way toward improving relations. Two way street and all.

And why don't the moderate muslims speak out against terrorists more?!??!


Res ispa loquitur
 
2013-07-16 03:09:43 PM
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2013-07-16 03:14:54 PM

doubled99: For that to be the case, I would have to assume all white people are racist, which I do not. I "label" people racist when they say stupid, racist shiat. Take you, for example...

No, it wouldn't. You throw the label out whenever it's convenient, and worse, you actually think you've said something of substance when you use it. That's how you feel superior to others, or at least assuage your own feelings of inferiority.


Naw, people like you are the ones battling feelings of inferiority. Why would I think I'm inferior when, to hear you all tell it, I think i have a built in excuse not to succeed? My failures in life aren't mine, they are the result or systematic oppression and institutionalized racism. Bigots say that we use racism as a crutch o justify our laziness. So, I've got no worries. You, on thew other hand, do not have an excuse to be a failure. You have never dealt with police brutality or with a racist teacher. You've never had your resume thrown in the garbage because your name sounded "ethnic". And I think it eats you alive. You figure, since you've failed through your lack of education and ambition, that EVERYONE who does not succeed must be just like you. Actually, that's not what you believe, its what you WANT to believe. I think the realization that there are many black people who actually over came some real shiat and blew by you in life burns. It creates resentment in you that makes you want to lash out on the internet. I understand. I'd probably feel the same way.
 
2013-07-16 03:18:23 PM

Nabb1: Res ispa loquitur


Well, we all know that muslims have exclusive control over all terrorism, so it makes sense that they be held to blame even without specific muslim-y proof.
 
2013-07-16 03:19:29 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: Actually, that's not what you believe, its what you WANT to believe. I think the realization that there are many black people who actually over came some real shiat and blew by you in life burns. It creates resentment in you that makes you want to lash out on the internet. I understand. I'd probably feel the same way.


Maybe he just really REALLY wants there to be a White Entertainment Television.
 
2013-07-16 03:24:38 PM
Naw, people like you are the ones battling feelings of inferiority. Why would I think I'm inferior when, to hear you all tell it, I think i have a built in excuse not to succeed? My failures in life aren't mine, they are the result or systematic oppression and institutionalized racism. Bigots say that we use racism as a crutch o justify our laziness. So, I've got no worries. You, on thew other hand, blah blah blah bullshiat...

See? You self identify as a person of a certain race. I don't. I couldn't care less what "white people" do or say. I'm a "white guy" to the same extent as I am a "human being". Maybe if people can stop being a member of a special group and just be a person, others will stop generalizing and labeling them. However,  no chance of that.
Your position on nearly every argument is derived from your perceived inferiority, that you then project onto others. It's kind of sad.

Try being an individual, and not a representative of a group.
 
2013-07-16 03:26:10 PM
FTA: "In Oakland, dozens of demonstrators briefly blocked Interstate 880 at the end of rush hour before lanes were cleared by authorities. Several protesters laid their bicycles on the ground in front of stopped cars."

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2013-07-16 03:29:31 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: doubled99: I understand that my answer may be hypocritical and excuse my language, but fark your opinion of me. As an individual, I am not going to walk on egg shells to change an unfounded, negative perception of me anymore than you will. You're trying to make the practice of seperating or demeaning others by calling the trash a noble thing to do. That's bullshiat. The people who label others trash are not doing it so that I and others can easily determine who is "good" and who is "bad". They do it because to elevate themselves above others, to make them feel good about their check-to-check existence. It allows them to say:
"I may not be a success in life, but at least I'm not one of 'them'"

Oh.
You mean the way you do with the label "racist" ?

For that to be the case, I would have to assume all white people are racist, which I do not. I "label" people racist when they say stupid, racist shiat. Take you, for example...


There are really only two forms of racism, racism born of ignorance, and racism born of experience. Racism born of ignorance relates to folks with little if any exposure to outside cultures or races. These folks tend to be more close-minded with minds that are easily influenced by their peers or environment. The unfortunate thing here is that while it should be the job of the media to portray matters in an unbiased manner, the inverse is true. What you then have are folks jumping to conclusions because "that is what they said on TV." This can be especially problematic when mob mentality takes over and individuals become organized. Organized institutional hatred is the worst imaginable outcome.

Racism born of experience is a very tricky situation. Folks that experience this are likely to form strong convictions. Individuals with convictions are more likely to act and lash out. You could say that a lot of the rioters are a direct result of institutional racism and the racism they experience on a daily basis. Or, there could be one particularly poignant moment that has caused these individuals to form a racism opinion. If every single dog you have ever encountered bites you, you probably won't like dogs. It does not matter if most dogs are good it is just shiatty luck you encountered bad dogs. If you only encountered one dog, and that dog tried to kill you, the same applies. The most you can hope for then is for the outside influences and media to let you know that dogs are not bad.

The thing is, we can mitigate BOTH of these, but we collectively need to make that a priority. The thing is that it is not in the best interest of politicians and "civil rights leaders" to do so because they would either lose power or be without jobs. The changes can only come from a community that has nothing to gain personally. Race baiters need to be exposed and the media needs to farking admonished and exposed for the ills they have caused.
 
2013-07-16 03:37:58 PM

I Browse: Last night was incredibly frustrating to watch. As an L.A. resident, a black person, and just a human being...I hated the way we were being represented. There were peaceful protests going on as well, but of course, that's not nearly as newsworthy as the dumbasses causing mayhem. "If it bleeds, it leads" as the old saying goes.

What the idiots last night don't realize (and surely don't care) is how much their actions hurt the overall message behind the protests, and how badly they damage race relations in general. I'd love to see one of them interviewed today, away from their friends, and asked what it is they think they accomplished last night. I'd love to have them watch the raw footage that we all saw, spot themselves in the crowd, and explain what was going through their minds. They wouldn't have any rational answers, of course, because there's no good explanation for it.

My biggest takeaway from last night is how powerful group-think and peer pressure can be. Any one of those dudes just walking down the street by themselves would not jump onto the roof of a car, or intimidate a moving car, or knock shiat down at Walmart, etc. But you get a bunch of guys together egging each other on and anything is possible. The whole thing honestly just makes me farking sad.


so besides posting anonymously on fark, what are you doing about this thing that makes you sad?
 
2013-07-16 03:38:02 PM

Greymalkin: Which is because black people in the USA are a minority or "the other", whites are the majority, so whenever whitey wants to complain about another group of whites they have to find a way to mark them as a minority or other too.   This is not an inherently white trait though, it exists everywhere in the world, humans are universally good at finding ways to identify the other when we want to hate/oppress/kill/ someone.


So there are times we want to hate and this is a function outside of the ability to identify "the other"?  You just twisted your logic into a pretzel, coated it with the mustard of derpitude, and then stuck it up your rectum.
 
2013-07-16 03:38:56 PM
Wtf are these people even protesting?  I mean the actual ones not the idiots looking for some safety in numbers of what they would be doing on any other night.
 
2013-07-16 03:41:01 PM
Fiction Fan:   "IT DIN'T GO THE WAY WE WANTED SO WE ARE GOING TO BREAK STUFF"

And now you know the real meaning behind the phrase, "No justice, no peace."

/Also applies to repeated prosecutions until they get a guilty verdict.
 
2013-07-16 03:41:02 PM

fat_free: Well, white people did enslave black people so...

imokwithis.jpg


Need I remind you of the 100,000+ Irish slaves in the U.S. in the year 1723 alone? And of the White slaves freed at the end of the American Civil war? Certain people need to shut up, man up, and quit blaming something that happened centuries before they were born for their idiocy today.
 
2013-07-16 03:41:21 PM
Just FYI: I'm in Texas but my family is from the North East and I grew up in a suburb of LA.

So...I'm no southern stereotype. lol

I'm a liberal lefty, as progressive and inclusive as you can get.

And I do sarcasm occasionally.

I...think I may have trolled unintentionally. Since I got a few bites, I'm going to guess it was a successful unintentional troll.
 
2013-07-16 03:42:47 PM

DROxINxTHExWIND: doubled99: For that to be the case, I would have to assume all white people are racist, which I do not. I "label" people racist when they say stupid, racist shiat. Take you, for example...

No, it wouldn't. You throw the label out whenever it's convenient, and worse, you actually think you've said something of substance when you use it. That's how you feel superior to others, or at least assuage your own feelings of inferiority.

Naw, people like you are the ones battling feelings of inferiority. Why would I think I'm inferior when, to hear you all tell it, I think i have a built in excuse not to succeed? My failures in life aren't mine, they are the result or systematic oppression and institutionalized racism. Bigots say that we use racism as a crutch o justify our laziness. So, I've got no worries. You, on thew other hand, do not have an excuse to be a failure. You have never dealt with police brutality or with a racist teacher. You've never had your resume thrown in the garbage because your name sounded "ethnic". And I think it eats you alive. You figure, since you've failed through your lack of education and ambition, that EVERYONE who does not succeed must be just like you. Actually, that's not what you believe, its what you WANT to believe. I think the realization that there are many black people who actually over came some real shiat and blew by you in life burns. It creates resentment in you that makes you want to lash out on the internet. I understand. I'd probably feel the same way.


If you write your resume the way you write your posts I am not surprised that they threw your resume in the garbage.  It has nothing to do with you name.
 
2013-07-16 03:43:13 PM
Somebody needs to shoot those idiots.
 
2013-07-16 03:44:57 PM

doubled99: Naw, people like you are the ones battling feelings of inferiority. Why would I think I'm inferior when, to hear you all tell it, I think i have a built in excuse not to succeed? My failures in life aren't mine, they are the result or systematic oppression and institutionalized racism. Bigots say that we use racism as a crutch o justify our laziness. So, I've got no worries. You, on thew other hand, blah blah blah bullshiat...

See? You self identify as a person of a certain race. I don't. I couldn't care less what "white people" do or say. I'm a "white guy" to the same extent as I am a "human being". Maybe if people can stop being a member of a special group and just be a person, others will stop generalizing and labeling them. However,  no chance of that.
Your position on nearly every argument is derived from your perceived inferiority, that you then project onto others. It's kind of sad.

Try being an individual, and not a representative of a group.


LOL. I'm only representative of this "group" because many of my discussions on Fark are about the inferiority of the group which I belong. Again, I "self-identify" as a black man because if I said I was Asian, you'd look at me funny. I can't choose my race nor can I control how you choose to percieve it, based on the actions of a few. I'd love to know how responding to remarks that I consider racist is the same as arguing from a position of percived inferiority. I spend the majority of these threads countering the bigotted opinion that we are inferior. You know, the exact opposite of what you said. Talk to me about being an individual the FIRST time you aren't in a thread about black people engaging in a racist circle jerk of "jokes" and back-slapping over who can be the most ignorant.
 
2013-07-16 03:45:30 PM
So, let me make sure I understand this... To protest the victimization of a person, the protesters rioted and victimized innocent people and their businesses.
 
2013-07-16 03:47:13 PM

JeffreyScott: So, let me make sure I understand this... To protest the victimization of a person, the protesters rioted and victimized innocent people and their businesses.


can you imagine if one of those people tried to defend themselves?
It would be like dividing by zero.
 
2013-07-16 03:54:07 PM
tenpoundsofcheese:

so besides posting anonymously on fark, what are you doing about this thing that makes you sad?


What am I doing about the idiots last night who caused mayhem under the guise of peaceful protest...? Nothing. I don't know any of them. If I did, I'd try talking to them.

Trust me, if I saw someone I recognized acting like a fool last night, they'd hear from me.
 
2013-07-16 04:00:24 PM
DROxINxTHExWIND:

You have never dealt with police brutality or with a racist teacher.

Oh please, people have dealt with incompetent teachers, unfair teachers, teachers who favored females more than males, teachers who couldn't give a darn, teachers who favored 2-3 students, teachers who taught only to the top 5% or the bottom 5%.  Do what everyone else does:  study hard, do extra stuff on your own, nail the test.  Your grades will speak for your capability in the class, not your race.

You've never had your resume thrown in the garbage because your name sounded "ethnic".

And you KNOW that the reason your resume was thrown in the garbage was because of your name?
There was no other reason?  You were perfectly qualified for that job vs. all others except for your name?


 
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