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2013-07-16 08:39:22 AM

dittybopper: enry: /seriously, you're scared of a 17 year old?

What is the difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old?

Why is it that the military likes to get soldiers that age?  Because males that age are likely in the peak physical condition of their lives (or, if they aren't, the military will get them there), and because they are still suffering from a condition I like to call "Testosterone Poisoning".  They're naturally aggressive.  This tends to tail off as they get older and testosterone levels start to fall, and as their bodies get used to having it in their system.

This can be shown by looking at violent offender age statistics:  They peak in the late teens/early twenties, and drop steadily down after that.   For males, the "peak" age for homicide offenders is between 17 and 29, with the highest single age group at 20 to 24 years old.  Females also peak at that age, but it's a much, much shallower peak:  Males are 10 times more likely to commit homicides in those age groups.

So yeah, a 12 or 14 year old male probably isn't going to be all that scary, absent something like a serious weapon in his hand.  A 17 year old male is a whole different kettle of fish.  Amazing the difference a few short years can make.


Apparently Fark doesn't like the FBI, so here's the link I intended to include:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-t h e-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls
 
2013-07-16 08:39:33 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?


When a pile of whackos promise a civil war if Obama gets re-elected, is it racist to believe them or do we just write them off as stupid nutters and point and laugh?
 
2013-07-16 08:39:37 AM

Rapmaster2000: Census tip:  white hispanic and non-white hispanic are two separate categories.  For example, you can be a white hispanic like Charlie Sheen or Cameron Diaz.


I actually worked on the overhauling the racial and ethnic categories in government publications and information collection requests like the census...and, you've made a bit of an error.

You can be white Hispanic or white non-Hispanic.  You've invented something that rearranges things a bit: the non-white Hispanic.  Sure, that does describe a number of people...but, the government doesn't categorize them like that.  They'd be classed as either black Hispanic or Asian Hispanic; they're not lumped together as a non-white Hispanic group in government record keeping -- although there might be individual studies that do that.
 
2013-07-16 08:40:03 AM

HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: A bunch of people going down streets, wrecking property, beating people, looting stores, and being held in by police lines isn't a riot?

Nope.

Where are the burning cities? Where is the widespread mayhem you were all predicting?

Just admit you were wrong, and that you're completely bummed about it. You bought all that ammo for nothing.



riot
ri·ot  [rahy-uht]Show IPAnoun
1.a noisy, violent public disorder caused by a group or crowd of pers o ns, as by a crowd protestingagainst another group, a government  policy, etc., in the streets.
2.Law.a disturbance of the public by three or more persons acting tog e ther in a disrupting andtumultuous manne r in carrying out their private purposes.

Lrn2English
 
2013-07-16 08:41:05 AM
Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots
 
2013-07-16 08:41:14 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: He won't, or he'll make some excuse as to why that "doesn't count"


To make your claim, you must have already done this...so, why not just produce the list?
 
2013-07-16 08:41:42 AM

Daraymann: Shoot a thug in self defense:  not guilty.

Shoot into a wall with children on other side of wall:  20 years.

Sounds about right.


How about "violate a restraining order by firing a gun, and refuse to take the plea bargain"?
 
2013-07-16 08:41:45 AM
The guys doing that really are the worst kind of people.
 
2013-07-16 08:41:47 AM

Gdalescrboz: Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots


Where?
 
2013-07-16 08:41:53 AM
This is it, Conservatives! The moment you've been waiting for!
 
2013-07-16 08:42:40 AM

eraser8: Rapmaster2000: Census tip:  white hispanic and non-white hispanic are two separate categories.  For example, you can be a white hispanic like Charlie Sheen or Cameron Diaz.

I actually worked on the overhauling the racial and ethnic categories in government publications and information collection requests like the census...and, you've made a bit of an error.

You can be white Hispanic or white non-Hispanic.  You've invented something that rearranges things a bit: the non-white Hispanic.  Sure, that does describe a number of people...but, the government doesn't categorize them like that.  They'd be classed as either black Hispanic or Asian Hispanic; they're not lumped together as a non-white Hispanic group in government record keeping -- although there might be individual studies that do that.


Cool.  Just trying to point out that white hispanic isn't some magical thing invented last week by the media.

Many years ago I naively assumed that the internet would eliminate dumb statements like "I ain't never heard of white hispanic so it doesn't exist".  I thought people had an actual interest in knowing facts and appearing knowledgeable.

That was wrong.  People have an interest in confirmation bias, not in accuracy.
 
2013-07-16 08:43:07 AM

Gdalescrboz: Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots


Where are these riots people keep talking about?

A few windows broken by numskulls does not a riot make.
 
2013-07-16 08:43:10 AM
Count me as one who has genuinely been surprised there hasn't been quite a bit more shiat going down.

Cause really Oakland and LA doesn't count, there's always something happening there.
 
2013-07-16 08:43:27 AM

n0nthing: ChaosStar:
I would be interested in hearing your legitimate reasons for having a concealed firearm on your person that also couldn't be spun as the carrying being "scared".

From my end it's pretty simple.  I frequent auctions and such and will sometimes have a decent chunk of cash on my person.  Additionally, due to some happenings beyond my control, I am no longer confident in my ability to successfully extricate myself from a bad situation should I enter into one.  I very much hope I will never be in a situation where I have to use my firearm, and if anything I am even more cautious about where I go and what I do when I am carrying.  For example, I don't follow random dudes around who aren't committing any criminal acts because I think something strange may be afoot.


So what you're saying is you carry because you're scared of getting robbed.
A legitimate reason, but also one where you're "scared", that's why I asked for his legitimate reasons one could carry without also being "scared".
/make sense?
 
2013-07-16 08:43:35 AM

PC LOAD LETTER: This is it, Conservatives! The moment you've been waiting for expecting ! .


FTFY
 
2013-07-16 08:43:49 AM
eraser8:
We have no idea who started the fight.

You are right, we can't be certain who first initiated the confrontation.  However, we can weigh the testimony given and come to a conclusion.  Just not one with absolute certainty.

We have conflicting testimony about who was on top at any given moment.

Do we?  I believe the testimony stated that Martin was on top until the shot was fired, and then Zimmerman got on top of him after he was shot.  Which testimony disputes that?

What we do know is that had Zimmerman used better judgment and stayed in his vehicle, no fight would have occurred and Martin would still be alive.

And if Martin had used better judgment as well, he would still be alive.
 
2013-07-16 08:44:09 AM

HotWingConspiracy: So many disappointed racists. This just isn't panning out for you guys.


Right? They all wanted a guilty verdict and can't understand how trials and evidence work.

Oh...wait...you're talking about the other guys that were responding to the threats of rioting. I get it.

Keep whipping that dead kid horse. You're getting a lot mileage out of it.
 
2013-07-16 08:44:49 AM

Carth: There were a handful of assholes on both sides hoping for riots.


I sense that the ones who want riots on one side have little power and access to media, while those on the other side are proud and prominent--possibly in possession of their own talk radio shows, tv opinion shows and even their own cable informatiion network.
 
2013-07-16 08:44:51 AM

eraser8: Gdalescrboz: Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots

Where are these riots people keep talking about?

A few windows broken by numskulls does not a riot make.


Not saying it's a riot, but is there a specific amount of damage that is required to define something as a riot? What's the tipping point from "unlawful assembly" to "riot"? Is it the same thing like where when 3 people are shot we call it a "mass shooting"?
 
2013-07-16 08:44:51 AM

HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?

Again, black people share a hive mind and have no self control. We get it.

Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something, I'll have to say they're liars in order to be considered "not a racist" by you.  Makes perfect sense!

Or you can be like me, use your head, and correctly state that there wasn't going to be any riot.

BTW, do you really want us to believe you weren't predicting riots prior to seeing those tweets?


Except in every TM thread, half of your arguments were that TM had to "confront" GZ because he was scared of GZ and black people are all afraid of the cops. Therefore TM was an innocent little lamb who was unfairly gunned down as he was beating another man's head against the concrete.

HWC, you are the worst kind of racist. You sit there from up on high and take pity on those poor little minorities and make excuses for us based on stereotypes. We don't want your damn pity, and we sure as hell don't want you to speak for us; we can take care of ourselves.
 
2013-07-16 08:45:07 AM

Carth: Thousands is an exaggeration. There were a handful of assholes on both sides hoping for riots.


Go on twitter, and start counting.  Let us know when you get finished.

dr_blasto: When a pile of whackos promise a civil war if Obama gets re-elected, is it racist to believe them or do we just write them off as stupid nutters and point and laugh?


Is your point that it is racist to believe people when enough of them say something if that something is negative?  Honestly, I don't even know wtf your point is, and I doubt you do either.
 
2013-07-16 08:45:22 AM
Glad to see people are focused on actually trying to get shiat changed instead of burning down neighborhoods.  Hopefully, Obama's anti-riot teams are a contributing factor to that.

So when do white liberals go back to not caring when young black men are shot? You've milked this for all the "See, I'm not racist" points its worth, what's next?  Might I suggest the woman sentenced to twenty years for firing warning shots?   www.cbsnews.com="" 8301-201_162-57433184="" fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots="" target="_blank" a="">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-yea rs-for -firing-warning-shots/  I'm sure you'll have to cooperate with the NRA, who is no doubt eagerly protesting this too, but good causes make for strange bedfellows.
 
2013-07-16 08:45:31 AM

jfivealive: eraser8:
We have no idea who started the fight.

You are right, we can't be certain who first initiated the confrontation.  However, we can weigh the testimony given and come to a conclusion.  Just not one with absolute certainty.


So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?
 
2013-07-16 08:45:35 AM

eraser8: Gdalescrboz: Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots

Where are these riots people keep talking about?

A few windows broken by numskulls does not a riot make.


There aren't any - but don't interrupt the narrative - they're on a roll.
 
2013-07-16 08:46:50 AM

Z1P2: ferg4096: Why would they riot in LA over this?

Because a certain unusually large percentage of a certain demographic looks for any excuse to riot just so they can loot, vandalize and assault people and property. They don't actually give a crap about the actual issue, it's just the latest excuse for this group of worthless thugs. Racism will only cease when the black community addresses and confronts the many problems with inner city black culture.


Yeah...it's not anything important, like a ball game:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-17581076
 
2013-07-16 08:47:01 AM

Somacandra: I sense that the ones who want riots on one side have little power and access to media, while those on the other side are proud and prominent--possibly in possession of their own talk radio shows, tv opinion shows and even their own cable informatiion network.


I wanted riots because Walmart has a new 60" LED TV brand in stock now
 
2013-07-16 08:47:33 AM
So, basically, a couple of shifty people joined the protests then broke off to try and loot some stuff under cover of the crowd and it all broke up pretty quickly after that becasue the police dropped in on them.

Worst. Riot. EVER.
 
2013-07-16 08:47:37 AM

Somacandra: Carth: There were a handful of assholes on both sides hoping for riots.

I sense that the ones who want riots on one side have little power and access to media, while those on the other side are proud and prominent--possibly in possession of their own talk radio shows, tv opinion shows and even their own cable informatiion network.


Maybe. From what I've read the promartin people who wanted riots were bragging about it on twitter and the prozimmerman people were looking at those and saying "oh gee wouldn't riots be terrible (wink wink)" or something to that effect. Both wanted them to further their own interests and both were, in my opinion, assholes for doing it.
 
2013-07-16 08:47:47 AM

ChaosStar: n0nthing: ChaosStar:
I would be interested in hearing your legitimate reasons for having a concealed firearm on your person that also couldn't be spun as the carrying being "scared".

From my end it's pretty simple.  I frequent auctions and such and will sometimes have a decent chunk of cash on my person.  Additionally, due to some happenings beyond my control, I am no longer confident in my ability to successfully extricate myself from a bad situation should I enter into one.  I very much hope I will never be in a situation where I have to use my firearm, and if anything I am even more cautious about where I go and what I do when I am carrying.  For example, I don't follow random dudes around who aren't committing any criminal acts because I think something strange may be afoot.

So what you're saying is you carry because you're scared of getting robbed.
A legitimate reason, but also one where you're "scared", that's why I asked for his legitimate reasons one could carry without also being "scared".
/make sense?


That's like saying the only reason someone wears a seatbelt is because they are scared of getting in an accident.  Sure, on some level, it's a good practice (seatbelt wearing) because if you get in an accident you'll be better off, but nobody gets in their car and puts it on because they are terrified of being in an accident.  They just want to be prepared in the event one happens.

Same thing with carrying a hand gun.  I don't expect to be confronted with a violent crime, and I don't put my holster on expecting one to occur or being fearful of the possibility.  But if, for whatever reason, I need to have one, I'm prepared.
 
2013-07-16 08:47:48 AM

eraser8: BraveNewCheneyWorld: He won't, or he'll make some excuse as to why that "doesn't count"

To make your claim, you must have already done this...so, why not just produce the list?


You - "Why don't you just post thousands of lines from your "#justicefortrayvon riot" search?  You expect us to put in that much time researching something for ourselves!?  I want my knowledge spoon fed to me!"
 
2013-07-16 08:47:50 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: A bunch of people going down streets, wrecking property, beating people, looting stores, and being held in by police lines isn't a riot?

Nope.

Where are the burning cities? Where is the widespread mayhem you were all predicting?

Just admit you were wrong, and that you're completely bummed about it. You bought all that ammo for nothing.


riot
ri·ot  [rahy-uht]Show IPAnoun
1.a noisy, violent public disorder caused by a group or crowd of pers o ns, as by a crowd protestingagainst another group, a government  policy, etc., in the streets.
2.Law.a disturbance of the public by three or more persons acting tog e ther in a disrupting andtumultuous manne r in carrying out their private purposes.

Lrn2English


You didn't get your riots. I feel bad for you.
 
2013-07-16 08:47:50 AM

LasersHurt: So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?


Well, we could dig him up and sit him in the defendant chair but that might be awkward
 
2013-07-16 08:49:20 AM

zeroman987: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?

Again, black people share a hive mind and have no self control. We get it.

Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something, I'll have to say they're liars in order to be considered "not a racist" by you.  Makes perfect sense!

Or you can be like me, use your head, and correctly state that there wasn't going to be any riot.

BTW, do you really want us to believe you weren't predicting riots prior to seeing those tweets?

Except in every TM thread, half of your arguments were that TM had to "confront" GZ because he was scared of GZ and black people are all afraid of the cops.


No I never said that, liar.

As the rest of your drivel was premised on this lie, there is no need to address it.
 
2013-07-16 08:49:25 AM

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Carth: Thousands is an exaggeration. There were a handful of assholes on both sides hoping for riots.

Go on twitter, and start counting.  Let us know when you get finished.

dr_blasto: When a pile of whackos promise a civil war if Obama gets re-elected, is it racist to believe them or do we just write them off as stupid nutters and point and laugh?

Is your point that it is racist to believe people when enough of them say something if that something is negative?  Honestly, I don't even know wtf your point is, and I doubt you do either.


Know how I know you don't understand how Twitter works?

Are you disputing that people called for riots on Twitter or just that there were thousands?
 
2013-07-16 08:49:31 AM

ChaosStar: n0nthing: ChaosStar:
I would be interested in hearing your legitimate reasons for having a concealed firearm on your person that also couldn't be spun as the carrying being "scared".

From my end it's pretty simple.  I frequent auctions and such and will sometimes have a decent chunk of cash on my person.  Additionally, due to some happenings beyond my control, I am no longer confident in my ability to successfully extricate myself from a bad situation should I enter into one.  I very much hope I will never be in a situation where I have to use my firearm, and if anything I am even more cautious about where I go and what I do when I am carrying.  For example, I don't follow random dudes around who aren't committing any criminal acts because I think something strange may be afoot.

So what you're saying is you carry because you're scared of getting robbed.
A legitimate reason, but also one where you're "scared", that's why I asked for his legitimate reasons one could carry without also being "scared".
/make sense?


I wouldn't necessarily limit it to being robbed, but I would agree that it's fair to say that when I carry I do so out of a fear of being in a potentially life threatening situation that I am unable to extricate myself from.
 
2013-07-16 08:49:34 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: LasersHurt: So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?

Well, we could dig him up and sit him in the defendant chair but that might be awkward


It's a shame we lost Jim Henson.
 
2013-07-16 08:50:17 AM

jfivealive: And if Martin had used better judgment as well, he would still be alive.


So you're blaming the unarmed teen with no violent record out for a stroll being stalked by a larger man armed with a gun with a history of violence who initiated the entire situation and decided to be judge, jury and executioner all by himself? Wow. You are a piece of work.
 
2013-07-16 08:50:25 AM

HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: A bunch of people going down streets, wrecking property, beating people, looting stores, and being held in by police lines isn't a riot?

Nope.

Where are the burning cities? Where is the widespread mayhem you were all predicting?

Just admit you were wrong, and that you're completely bummed about it. You bought all that ammo for nothing.


riot
ri·ot  [rahy-uht]Show IPAnoun
1.a noisy, violent public disorder caused by a group or crowd of pers o ns, as by a crowd protestingagainst another group, a government  policy, etc., in the streets.
2.Law.a disturbance of the public by three or more persons acting tog e ther in a disrupting andtumultuous manne r in carrying out their private purposes.

Lrn2English

You didn't get your riots. I feel bad for you.


True - but there have been a couple of noisy demonstrations, so they can call those riots, declare themselves the "winners" (On The Internets!), and we can ALL be happy! It's an ideal outcome.
 
2013-07-16 08:50:27 AM

pedobearapproved: Here's the CSB/self-important hipster version

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"I didn't jump on the neighborhood watch and beat his head against the concrete, so I got to live, I can promise you, some stupid son of a biatch will think its the exact same situation and make a poster out of me"
 
2013-07-16 08:50:28 AM

jfivealive: Do we?  I believe the testimony stated that Martin was on top until the shot was fired, and then Zimmerman got on top of him after he was shot.  Which testimony disputes that?


Selma Mora's.

jfivealive: And if Martin had used better judgment as well, he would still be alive.


That's a much harder claim to make.  As you've admitted, we don't know how the fight started.  If Zimmerman started the fight, what is the better judgment that Martin could have used that would have guaranteed his survival?
 
2013-07-16 08:51:03 AM

LasersHurt: IdBeCrazyIf: LasersHurt: So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?

Well, we could dig him up and sit him in the defendant chair but that might be awkward

It's a shame we lost Jim Henson.


I now have the urge to go through the lyrics for "Its not easy being green" and change it to "Its not easy being black"
 
2013-07-16 08:51:04 AM

FLMountainMan: Glad to see people are focused on actually trying to get shiat changed instead of burning down neighborhoods.  Hopefully, Obama's anti-riot teams are a contributing factor to that.

So when do white liberals go back to not caring when young black men are shot? You've milked this for all the "See, I'm not racist" points its worth, what's next?  Might I suggest the woman sentenced to twenty years for firing warning shots?   www.cbsnews.com="" 8301-201_162-57433184="" fla-mom-gets-20-years-for-firing-warning-shots="" target="_blank" a="">http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-201_162-57433184/fla-mom-gets-20-yea rs-for -firing-warning-shots/  I'm sure you'll have to cooperate with the NRA, who is no doubt eagerly protesting this too, but good causes make for strange bedfellows.


Yeah.  I hate that this was pushed out by the media as a black versus a white.  They knew what would result from that...more disaster for them to report on.

I do feel that the outcome was wrong, but at the same time, I have to shake my head for the "protestors"...you know, most of them being excons or with reasonably long rap sheets, out on the streets just to start shiat for the sake of playing the race card.

I hope that when there is a group of black gang members that rob or beat up a white guy, and there is a cell video of the incident put in to evidence with the guys calling him a "stupid ass honky!"  that there is racial outcrying by the black community that these gang members are perpetuating the------------ oh, you mean that won't happen?  Shocking.

It sucks that in 2013 this is still the case...and it sucks even more that there can be protesting on a double standard, especially when there are so many cases where the roles are reversed, yet no one gives two shiats about reporting about them in the media because it doesn't sell.
 
2013-07-16 08:51:05 AM

LasersHurt: jfivealive: eraser8:
We have no idea who started the fight.

You are right, we can't be certain who first initiated the confrontation.  However, we can weigh the testimony given and come to a conclusion.  Just not one with absolute certainty.

So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?


Is that how you read that?  I'm sorry, that is not what I meant.  If you read further down in my post, you will see that eraser made the claim that Zimmerman made poor judgment calls.  I agree.  Martin also made poor judgment calls.  I believe Martin is more responsible than Zimmerman for the physical altercation, but not completely responsible.
 
2013-07-16 08:51:07 AM

IdBeCrazyIf: LasersHurt: So Zimmerman is innocent, because "reasonable doubt," but Martin is almost certainly responsible for the fight, because... he gets no "reasonable doubt"?

Well, we could dig him up and sit him in the defendant chair but that might be awkward


I've said this before, just as I would find Zimmerman not guilty, for the same reason if we were trying Martin posthumously for assault, I would have to find him not guilty for the same reason, lack of evidence.
 
2013-07-16 08:51:19 AM

MichiganFTL: eraser8: Gdalescrboz: Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots

Where are these riots people keep talking about?

A few windows broken by numskulls does not a riot make.

Not saying it's a riot, but is there a specific amount of damage that is required to define something as a riot? What's the tipping point from "unlawful assembly" to "riot"? Is it the same thing like where when 3 people are shot we call it a "mass shooting"?


Yes ... it's when a person gets hit in the head with a hammer for trying to protect his business:

LA Times: Zimmerman Protest in Oakland Turns Violent; Waiter Struck In Face
 
2013-07-16 08:51:35 AM

skozlaw: So, basically, a couple of shifty people joined the protests then broke off to try and loot some stuff under cover of the crowd and it all broke up pretty quickly after that becasue the police dropped in on them.

Worst. Riot. EVER.


No can't you see that this might sort of kind of narrowly meet the dictionary definition of a riot?
 
2013-07-16 08:51:43 AM

eraser8: About rioting?  Yes.


So what was last night, a parade? I'm sure those that were assaulted, had their cars vandalized and their property destroyed would disagree.
 
2013-07-16 08:51:54 AM

Somacandra: jfivealive: And if Martin had used better judgment as well, he would still be alive.

So you're blaming the unarmed teen with no violent record out for a stroll being stalked by a larger man armed with a gun with a history of violence who initiated the entire situation and decided to be judge, jury and executioner all by himself? Wow. You are a piece of work.


Lies.

Travyon did have a history a violence, and was kicked out of his house due to it and poor performance.

Trayvon delt drugs, and wanted to get a gun.

Typical Martin supporter, no farking clue what you are talking about and mad as hell because of it.
 
2013-07-16 08:51:57 AM

jfivealive: but not completely solely responsible


Better word
 
2013-07-16 08:52:41 AM

eraser8: Gdalescrboz: Not only did white people not riot after OJ got off, black people celebrated in the streets.  Don't know about anyone else but I dont see any celebrations, just riots

Where are these riots people keep talking about?

A few windows broken by numskulls does not a riot make.


Well, they do. It's not a characterization of the protests as a whole, though. Which is why the people rioting are easily the worst people we've seen in a while and lower than a snake's belly.
 
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