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2013-07-16 08:19:20 AM  

heili skrimsli: eraser8: A man was charged with murder and there was a rather large contingent of people not just eager to defend Zimmerman's rights but also seemingly eager to put the victim on trial. That never made sense to me.

The 'victim' as you call him did break George Zimmerman's nose. He hit George Zimmerman's head off the concrete. He was seen on top of George Zimmerman, straddling him, raining down blows.

Victim?

Of his own decisions. Had he not decided to teach the creepy ass cracker a lesson, I have no doubt that Trayvon Martin would not have died that night.


We have no idea who started the fight.  We have conflicting testimony about who was on top at any given moment.  What we do know is that had Zimmerman used better judgment and stayed in his vehicle, no fight would have occurred and Martin would still be alive.
 
2013-07-16 08:19:24 AM  
People are going to have their Black Riot, whether or not there really is one.

I've seen 10 times as much coverage and commentary on the idea of Black Riots than there has been any, you know, rioting of any kind.
 
2013-07-16 08:19:59 AM  

TuteTibiImperes: That's a pretty delayed riot.  If they were passionate about it this would have started Saturday night.  This is about some people who maybe like the idea of a riot in theory, but are all too chickenshiat to start one themselves.  This will disperse on its own.


You forget, Saturday night through Sunday night is riot free because Sunday is Fish Fry and Religion Day. The riot workweek begins Monday.
 
2013-07-16 08:20:18 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-16 08:20:24 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?


Was I wrong? Making an observation based on past history isn't racist, it's how predictions are made.

You on the other hand, claim to know everyone's motivation for their opinions about this case.
 
2013-07-16 08:20:32 AM  

hasty ambush: [25.media.tumblr.com image 625x352]


In defense of liberals, the hispanic guy had a white last name so it's okay to make his life miserable for defending himself from his reasonable belief of imminent death or significant bodily injury.
 
2013-07-16 08:20:42 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?


So, thousands of black people promised to riot?

[citation needed]
 
2013-07-16 08:20:50 AM  

SunsetLament: So, now that Detroit has been abandoned ... Oakland's the shiattiest of major cities in America, right?  It's basically the 2013 version of The Warriors there.


Oakland is a major city?

/Oakland's no Richmond (CA), it's not as scary as people make it out to be, though it's still hella sketchy.
 
2013-07-16 08:20:54 AM  
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-16 08:20:59 AM  

enry: enry: My issue is the reasons *why* people feel the need to have it, and in my experience they're people that are genuinely scared of the world around them and compensate by having a CCW.

heili skrimsli:

I would rather kill someone than be seriously injured, raped, kidnapped or killed myself.

/They do not have the right to attack me knowing that I cannot defend myself.
//I will defend myself. There is absolutely nothing immoral about it.

Please, continue.


You're the on with the batshiat insane idea that someone who attacks me should be able to do so knowing that I won't be able to hurt them.
 
2013-07-16 08:23:07 AM  
643 comments and not one of you heartless bastards had the goddam common decency to check on Omarion?  This place is slipping I tell ya.
 
2013-07-16 08:23:29 AM  

HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?

Again, black people share a hive mind and have no self control. We get it.


Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something, I'll have to say they're liars in order to be considered "not a racist" by you.  Makes perfect sense!
 
2013-07-16 08:24:25 AM  

wambu: [i.imgur.com image 260x207]


Nice.
 
2013-07-16 08:24:45 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something, I'll have to say they're liars in order to be considered "not a racist" by you.  Makes perfect sense!


So why haven't these thousands of black people rioted then? You claim it was a promise.
 
2013-07-16 08:25:37 AM  
I find all this talk of rioting pretty tenuous and tiresome. Once, on my way back to Redondo Beach from dinner at Roy's in downtown LA, I had to stop and use the bathroom. I asked my driver to pull off on Imperial because I saw a McDonald's sign from the highway. He suggested that we continue on, at least until Manhattan Beach, because he didn't think the area was very safe.

Pish posh, I asked him to take the exit and we pulled into the parking lot. I ran in, nodded at the girls behind the counter, and headed straight towards the restroom. To be honest, it was a pretty nice McDonald's for the supposed reputation my driver had tried to suggest. The floors were clean. The tables were clean. It was pretty clear the bathroom was also kept well maintained.

All the patrons were black. All the workers were black. That was the only thing that could have possibly been said about the place, but even then, to what end? It was a normal McDonald's on a normal night.

In the restroom I took my place at the urinal and began relieving myself. As I was hitting full stream, a boy walked in. I'd say he was 16 or 17. Tall and athletic. I turned and looked at him and asked "what's up?" He answered with a similar "what's up" and I went back to my pissing. A few seconds later I was done and zipping myself back up. I moved to the sink, and the boy walked around me to the urinal. I washed my hands and used the blow dryer to dry them. On my way out, I said to him, "have a nice night" and he responded "you too".

Back out in the car, my driver had locked all the doors and turned off the engine. The ninja defense, I suppose.

But I, having just interacted with the people of this neighborhood, knew what he couldn't believe. That these people sitting with their families at McDonald's on Saturday night were human beings too. The luck of fate had perhaps put us in different parts of the country, arguably different worlds altogether, but no different in spirit. We are brothers, all of us.
 
2013-07-16 08:25:38 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something


Again, what thousands of black people made this promise?  Can you name them?
 
2013-07-16 08:26:01 AM  

eraser8: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?

So, thousands of black people promised to riot?

[citation needed]


Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.  I don't know who you think you're kidding, the coverage of people promising riots was well reported even in the MSM.
 
2013-07-16 08:26:01 AM  
City slicker problems
 
2013-07-16 08:26:01 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: HotWingConspiracy: So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

Was I wrong? Making an observation based on past history isn't racist, it's how predictions are made.


You racists tend to cherry pick.

You on the other hand, claim to know everyone's motivation for their opinions about this case.

Your motivation is obvious, I can't really understand how you think you're being clever.

Like I told you yesterday, I'm willing to accept that you're just completely oblivious. Which doesn't make it ok, but at least you can plead blissful ignorance.
 
2013-07-16 08:27:06 AM  

2wolves: "A riot is an ugly thing..."


justgrits.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-16 08:27:28 AM  

Popcorn Johnny: Was I wrong?


About rioting?  Yes.
 
2013-07-16 08:28:15 AM  

Coastalgrl: What I don't understand is the news outlets claiming that Zimmerman is white....he is not. He is of Hispanic descent. Every form I fill out differentiates Hispanic from White, Black, American Indian, etc.

Could they be stirring the pot to encourage outrage and violence so they would have outrage and violence to report on so they could sell more copies or get better ratings?


Census tip:  white hispanic and non-white hispanic are two separate categories.  For example, you can be a white hispanic like Charlie Sheen or Cameron Diaz.

What I don't understand is why you just didn't google the phrase?    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Hispanic_and_Latino_Americans
 
2013-07-16 08:28:17 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?

Again, black people share a hive mind and have no self control. We get it.

Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something, I'll have to say they're liars in order to be considered "not a racist" by you.  Makes perfect sense!


Or you can be like me, use your head, and correctly state that there wasn't going to be any riot.

BTW, do you really want us to believe you weren't predicting riots prior to seeing those tweets?
 
2013-07-16 08:28:19 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.  I don't know who you think you're kidding, the coverage of people promising riots was well reported even in the MSM.


When Black People make stupid internet threats, it's best to interpret that as a sign of the whole race.

Like when white people threatened to kill Justin Bieber.
 
2013-07-16 08:28:19 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.  I don't know who you think you're kidding, the coverage of people promising riots was well reported even in the MSM.


LOL, wow. You must be new to the internet.
 
2013-07-16 08:29:29 AM  

dinwv: Hey, why don't white people riot once in awhile?


When they do, more people get hurt:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zoot_Suit_Riots
 
2013-07-16 08:30:04 AM  

iq_in_binary: JK47: iq_in_binary:

Really the whole thing could have gone the other way.  We could be having a discussion about a guy who wanted to be (but wasn't) a cop carrying a concealed weapon and prowling around his neighborhood for threats as he perceives them.  A teenager caught by surprise and confronted by an aggressive armed man reacts and during a brief violent struggles knocks the man unconscious who then later succumbs to his wounds in the hospital.  I wonder how the trial would have turned out then.

I would have been proud to stand up and say:

"A gun in your pocket does not a police officer make. Don't go snooping around if you don't have the training to handle someone taking offense to it."

And yes, my job was snooping around. It could have been me Zimmerman was starting shiat with, and it WOULD have been me stomping a mud hole in him and walking it dry if he didn't get his creepy ass away from me, or let me get mine away from him. Normal people call the cops. I like dealing with cops far more than the local Neighborhood Watch. Because normally I NEVER deal with the Neighborhood Watch, their mantra is OBSERVE AND REPORT. They don't walk up to you with a gun on them and start shiat.

Hell, the normal neighborhood watch people are usually my best damn friend when I'm gumshoeing, once I identify who I am and what I'm investigating they're usually a huge help, the do make a habit of observing after all.


Perhaps if someone had tried engaging in conversation and not gone straight to violence he would still be alive today and biatcing about the time he was confused for a possible criminal by the only white hispanic anyone has ever heard of.
 
2013-07-16 08:31:04 AM  

jaybeezey: Perhaps if someone had tried engaging in conversation and not gone straight to violence


There is no proof of this statement. There is no proof who started the confrontation. And it's irrelevant now; try not to gloat too hard about a dead kid.
 
2013-07-16 08:31:07 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.


1) I didn't see thousands of black people promising riots.  Frankly, I saw more anti-black racists predicting riots than I saw black people promising them.

2) I asked for a citation specifically because I want to be informed of the information in your possession that I am ignorant of.  That's the whole point of asking a question.
 
2013-07-16 08:32:05 AM  

LasersHurt: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.  I don't know who you think you're kidding, the coverage of people promising riots was well reported even in the MSM.

When Black People make stupid internet threats, it's best to interpret that as a sign of the whole race.


Who said anything about "all black people"?  You're just making shiat up now.

HotWingConspiracy: Or you can be like me, use your head, and correctly state that there wasn't going to be any riot.


A bunch of people going down streets, wrecking property, beating people, looting stores, and being held in by police lines isn't a riot?  Your denial won't undo what happened last night.
 
2013-07-16 08:32:20 AM  

LasersHurt: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.  I don't know who you think you're kidding, the coverage of people promising riots was well reported even in the MSM.

When Black People make stupid internet threats, it's best to interpret that as a sign of the whole race.

Like when white people threatened to kill Justin Bieber.


Don't underestimate the anger of janitor-Americans.
 
2013-07-16 08:32:25 AM  

jaybeezey: by the only white hispanic anyone has ever heard of.


Ha, so Spanish people don't exist? There are many different kinds of Latinos, white, black, native, and mixed. I think people call this guy white because he's half German.
 
2013-07-16 08:33:29 AM  

TheJoe03: SunsetLament: So, now that Detroit has been abandoned ... Oakland's the shiattiest of major cities in America, right?  It's basically the 2013 version of The Warriors there.

Oakland is a major city?



Sure, it's the same size as Miami and bigger than New Orleans, St Louis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh.  If you've got two pro sports teams, you're probably a major city.
 
2013-07-16 08:33:37 AM  

ferg4096: Why would they riot in LA over this?


It's easier than looking for a job??
 
2013-07-16 08:35:11 AM  

eraser8: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something

Again, what thousands of black people made this promise?  Can you name them?


Step 1: Go on Twitter
Step 2: Search for word "Riot"
Step 3: Also search for word "Roit" (lots of brain surgeons threatening to riot)
Step 4: Start counting

Let us know what you come up with.
 
2013-07-16 08:35:14 AM  

Coastalgrl: What I don't understand is the news outlets claiming that Zimmerman is white....he is not. He is of Hispanic descent. Every form I fill out differentiates Hispanic from White, Black, American Indian, etc.

Could they be stirring the pot to encourage outrage and violence so they would have outrage and violence to report on so they could sell more copies or get better ratings?


Remember the Maine reason the media does anything...
 
2013-07-16 08:36:23 AM  

adp1215: ferg4096: Why would they riot in LA over this?

It's easier than looking for a job??


Well, it's not their fault that we have the worst economy since the Great Depression because of Oba ... um ... nevermind.
 
2013-07-16 08:36:26 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: A bunch of people going down streets, wrecking property, beating people, looting stores, and being held in by police lines isn't a riot?


Nope.

Where are the burning cities? Where is the widespread mayhem you were all predicting?

Just admit you were wrong, and that you're completely bummed about it. You bought all that ammo for nothing.
 
2013-07-16 08:36:40 AM  

eraser8: indarwinsshadow: Nothing like taking all the gains you've made over the past couple of years, and flushing them down the toilet. What a proud moment in black history.

What the hell are you talking about?  What happened in Los Angeles is nothing.  A few people got out of hand.  But, because those people were black, some among us are eager to label it a riot -- when it wasn't one.  There are riots going on...but, not in Los Angeles.

Here's what's happening RIGHT NOW in Northern Ireland:

[i.i.cbsi.com image 620x350]

[msnbcmedia.msn.com image 850x551]

[cdn2.belfasttelegraph.co.uk image 559x342]

[blogs.reuters.com image 592x394]


Wow the Irish are really pissed Zimmerman got off.
 
2013-07-16 08:37:02 AM  

wambu: I'm surprised at all the Hispanic hate in the black community.


Apparently, you've never been to Tucson, AZ.
 
2013-07-16 08:37:08 AM  

SunsetLament: Let us know what you come up with.


Way more people whining, hand-wringing, and predicting that Blacks will riot than there are people calling for riots?
 
2013-07-16 08:37:11 AM  

SunsetLament: Sure, it's the same size as Miami and bigger than New Orleans, St Louis, Cleveland, Cincinnati, Pittsburgh.  If you've got two pro sports teams, you're probably a major city.


It's the 3rd biggest city in the Bay, it's not really on those other cities level since those other cities are the main city in their metro area. Oakland is like a Sacramento or even a Ft Worth, which to me isn't a major city, just a mid sized big city. I don't consider cities with less than 400,000 people "major", especially when they are dwarfed by the other cities in the same metro.
 
2013-07-16 08:37:42 AM  

SunsetLament: eraser8: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Ok, so, when black people promise by the thousands to do something

Again, what thousands of black people made this promise?  Can you name them?

Step 1: Go on Twitter
Step 2: Search for word "Riot"
Step 3: Also search for word "Roit" (lots of brain surgeons threatening to riot)
Step 4: Start counting

Let us know what you come up with.


He won't, or he'll make some excuse as to why that "doesn't count"
 
2013-07-16 08:38:02 AM  

eraser8: BraveNewCheneyWorld: Twitter.com  - there you go.  There's also numerous blogs, but honestly, we both know you're not going to read anything that might shatter your precious ignorance.

1) I didn't see thousands of black people promising riots.  Frankly, I saw more anti-black racists predicting riots than I saw black people promising them.

2) I asked for a citation specifically because I want to be informed of the information in your possession that I am ignorant of.  That's the whole point of asking a question.


Thousands is an exaggeration. There were a handful of assholes on both sides hoping for riots.
 
2013-07-16 08:38:19 AM  

Eponymous: Amos Quito: I wonder,  why do so many young African American men wind up in trouble with the law?

 Occam's razor would lead you to believe that they commit more crime.


But you won't be able to confirm that until whites are stopped in proportionate numbers by police.

Google is your friend.
 
2013-07-16 08:38:20 AM  
jaybeezey:

Perhaps if someone had tried engaging in conversation and not gone straight to violence he would still be alive today and biatcing about the time he was confused for a possible criminal by the only white hispanic anyone has ever heard of.

Outside of the whole Zimmerman thing.  Let's forget that.

Why are people completely mystified by the idea of a white hispanic?  Have you never filled out a census form?

Based on the definitions created by the the Office of Management and Budget and the U.S. Census Bureau, race and ethnicity are mutually independent.

Why is this so hard to understand?  Better yet, why don't you know this?  Are you too lazy to research things on your own?

These are white hispanics.
upload.wikimedia.org

There, you've had over a year to understand this concept and you have completely failed on your own to do so.  I'm glad I could help you out.
 
2013-07-16 08:38:25 AM  

enry: /seriously, you're scared of a 17 year old?


What is the difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old?

Why is it that the military likes to get soldiers that age?  Because males that age are likely in the peak physical condition of their lives (or, if they aren't, the military will get them there), and because they are still suffering from a condition I like to call "Testosterone Poisoning".  They're naturally aggressive.  This tends to tail off as they get older and testosterone levels start to fall, and as their bodies get used to having it in their system.

This can be shown by looking at violent offender age statistics:  They peak in the late teens/early twenties, and drop steadily down after that.   For males, the "peak" age for homicide offenders is between 17 and 29, with the highest single age group at 20 to 24 years old.  Females also peak at that age, but it's a much, much shallower peak:  Males are 10 times more likely to commit homicides in those age groups.

So yeah, a 12 or 14 year old male probably isn't going to be all that scary, absent something like a serious weapon in his hand.  A 17 year old male is a whole different kettle of fish.  Amazing the difference a few short years can make.
 
2013-07-16 08:39:22 AM  

dittybopper: enry: /seriously, you're scared of a 17 year old?

What is the difference between a 17 year old and an 18 year old?

Why is it that the military likes to get soldiers that age?  Because males that age are likely in the peak physical condition of their lives (or, if they aren't, the military will get them there), and because they are still suffering from a condition I like to call "Testosterone Poisoning".  They're naturally aggressive.  This tends to tail off as they get older and testosterone levels start to fall, and as their bodies get used to having it in their system.

This can be shown by looking at violent offender age statistics:  They peak in the late teens/early twenties, and drop steadily down after that.   For males, the "peak" age for homicide offenders is between 17 and 29, with the highest single age group at 20 to 24 years old.  Females also peak at that age, but it's a much, much shallower peak:  Males are 10 times more likely to commit homicides in those age groups.

So yeah, a 12 or 14 year old male probably isn't going to be all that scary, absent something like a serious weapon in his hand.  A 17 year old male is a whole different kettle of fish.  Amazing the difference a few short years can make.


Apparently Fark doesn't like the FBI, so here's the link I intended to include:

http://www.fbi.gov/about-us/cjis/ucr/crime-in-the-u.s/2010/crime-in-t h e-u.s.-2010/tables/10shrtbl03.xls
 
2013-07-16 08:39:33 AM  

BraveNewCheneyWorld: HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: eraser8: Yeah, I didn't think you could answer the question.

I already answered the question in a thread yesterday and I'm not going to keep playing his stupid game. He's a farking racist and so is anybody else who starts making assumptions that a person holds a particular view on the case or its aftermath based on the race of those involved.

So you mean like you, right? Because you've been going on for quite some time about how black people were sure to riot, because that's what black people do, right?

When black people promise that they're going to riot by the thousands, is it racist to believe them?


When a pile of whackos promise a civil war if Obama gets re-elected, is it racist to believe them or do we just write them off as stupid nutters and point and laugh?
 
2013-07-16 08:39:37 AM  

Rapmaster2000: Census tip:  white hispanic and non-white hispanic are two separate categories.  For example, you can be a white hispanic like Charlie Sheen or Cameron Diaz.


I actually worked on the overhauling the racial and ethnic categories in government publications and information collection requests like the census...and, you've made a bit of an error.

You can be white Hispanic or white non-Hispanic.  You've invented something that rearranges things a bit: the non-white Hispanic.  Sure, that does describe a number of people...but, the government doesn't categorize them like that.  They'd be classed as either black Hispanic or Asian Hispanic; they're not lumped together as a non-white Hispanic group in government record keeping -- although there might be individual studies that do that.
 
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