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(Global News (Canada))   Leaked memo shows Canadian Prime Ministers Office ordering outgoing Ministers to make a blacklist of reporters, enemies etc. Richard Nixon seen smiling in his grave   (globalnews.ca) divider line 12
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2013-07-16 01:50:05 AM
3 votes:

Representative of the unwashed masses: ontariolightning: ecmoRandomNumbers: Do Canadian politicians go to American Ivy League schools?

Harper is an evangelist who would be like American evangelist politicians except he knows the Canadian electorate would have him out of there on his ass so fast so he begrudgingly stays away from abortion &  gay marriage.


which makes him a smart politician.  I have no problem with a leader being pragmatic above pursuing personal goals that would go against the wishes of the populace.  And while strongly worded the memo really isn't that surprising.  You'd want the new guy/girl to be informed of who is helpful vs. combative to your office when you come in.


He is not that smart.  You should see who he thinks is trustworthy.  Hiring a con artist as a adviser, appointing thieves and women beaters to the Senate, and he has at least 2 RCMP investigations going on against his government.

So he's just you average dumbass Conservative.
2013-07-16 07:33:58 AM
2 votes:

Emposter: It's called opposition research.  It's essential to getting things done in politics.  Knowing who will oppose a bill you put forward, who can be persuaded, who's a lost cause and will need to be worked around, who you'll need to be prepared to respond to attacks from, etc. isn't evil, it's intelligent.


Reporters and Civil Servants in your OWN DEPARTMENT are not the opposition.
2013-07-15 10:16:30 PM
2 votes:

ecmoRandomNumbers: Do Canadian politicians go to American Ivy League schools?


Harper is an evangelist who would be like American evangelist politicians except he knows the Canadian electorate would have him out of there on his ass so fast so he begrudgingly stays away from abortion &  gay marriage.
2013-07-16 12:38:31 PM
1 votes:
Welcome to your first day on the cabinet!  Here is your name badge and your list of enemies.  Remember, all public statements must first be approved by the PMO.  Welcome to the team!!
2013-07-16 11:51:47 AM
1 votes:
So I take it Mouldy Squid is a paid schill.  Hell, I live in ranch country in Southern Alberta, and I haven't heard one person say anything favourable about the economic action plan.  The hardcore conservatives around here even call it propaganda.  When he's lost my email forwarding cousins, you know he's trouble.
2013-07-16 10:14:24 AM
1 votes:

miscreant: jakomo002: I think Harper is done next election. Waaay too many scandals, and he's losing tons of support in the East. His American style of governance (always campaigning, always spinning) is a turnoff for most Canadians.

If it wasn't for the East, no Harper majority.
If it wasn't for the Liberal leadership deficit and implosion, no Harper majority.

Both or either of those will sink him.

It depends if the Liberals can win all their support back from the NDP. The problem is that the left is split now like the right was in the 90s. With a Weeners the post election style, that means that the Conservatives can win seats in ridings when the majority of people are totally against their policies.

You've got to hope that some backbencher manages to reopen the debate on gay marriage or abortion. That would sink them. Harper has been pretty good about keeping a lid on that though.


That still leaves the question of who can be elected in Harper's place. NPD economic policies would be disastrous and every time Trudeau opens his mouth he manages to insult the west. I would like to see a change of leadership, sure, but there is no one with the chops or the balls to replace him.

Canada lost its best chance of governance when Jack Layton died. He could have reigned in the excesses of a Tory majority parliament and provided the moral and progressive voice of Canadians while still allowing some legislation to pass. Mulcair isn't up to it.
2013-07-16 09:58:10 AM
1 votes:

mtbhucker: Representative of the unwashed masses: ontariolightning: ecmoRandomNumbers: Do Canadian politicians go to American Ivy League schools?

Harper is an evangelist who would be like American evangelist politicians except he knows the Canadian electorate would have him out of there on his ass so fast so he begrudgingly stays away from abortion &  gay marriage.


which makes him a smart politician.  I have no problem with a leader being pragmatic above pursuing personal goals that would go against the wishes of the populace.  And while strongly worded the memo really isn't that surprising.  You'd want the new guy/girl to be informed of who is helpful vs. combative to your office when you come in.

He is not that smart.  You should see who he thinks is trustworthy.  Hiring a con artist as a adviser, appointing thieves and women beaters to the Senate, and he has at least 2 RCMP investigations going on against his government.

So he's just you average dumbass Conservative.


Not to mention he named a creationist chiropractor as Minister of State for Science & Technology...
2013-07-16 09:42:16 AM
1 votes:

jakomo002: I think Harper is done next election. Waaay too many scandals, and he's losing tons of support in the East. His American style of governance (always campaigning, always spinning) is a turnoff for most Canadians.

If it wasn't for the East, no Harper majority.
If it wasn't for the Liberal leadership deficit and implosion, no Harper majority.

Both or either of those will sink him.


Yeah, I've also try to get my fellow 905-er farkwads to realize that conservative-style governance doesn't work.  And it especially doesn't work in Canada where we have come to depend on moderate, reasonable stewardship of the country.  Personally, I'd love to see a minority Liberal gov't... or, ideally, a Liberal-NDP coalition.  I've found the Canadian gov't has always worked best when the party in power needs to consult with the other parties to stay in charge.  Though to be fair, the Chretien liberals did a non-terrible job overall during their majorities.
2013-07-16 09:38:59 AM
1 votes:

jakomo002: I think Harper is done next election. Waaay too many scandals, and he's losing tons of support in the East. His American style of governance (always campaigning, always spinning) is a turnoff for most Canadians.

If it wasn't for the East, no Harper majority.
If it wasn't for the Liberal leadership deficit and implosion, no Harper majority.

Both or either of those will sink him.


It depends if the Liberals can win all their support back from the NDP. The problem is that the left is split now like the right was in the 90s. With a Weeners the post election style, that means that the Conservatives can win seats in ridings when the majority of people are totally against their policies.

You've got to hope that some backbencher manages to reopen the debate on gay marriage or abortion. That would sink them. Harper has been pretty good about keeping a lid on that though.
2013-07-16 09:15:12 AM
1 votes:

hasty ambush: Canada is still being amateurish. When you start using the Justice Minister and Canada Revenue Agency to attack those on those lists ten you have a scandal. Just having a list of people who may not be on your side is no big deal.


Actually, I think it's just that the Conservatives are still doing testing on how much evil the Canadian people will not notice/pointedly ignore.  They went with an American style TV campaign last federal election (basically lies and hyperbole) and it won them the majority.  Then they experimented with mixed results on passing patently foolish and damaging legislation to some success.  And when the Liberals elected their new leader, they did an American style smear job on Trudeau.  It's a process for the Conservatives, I just hope that a few more Canadian people figure out what a clown Harper is and send him back to the position of "loyal opposition".
2013-07-16 08:04:51 AM
1 votes:
I find Pierre Polievre to be the most annoying, odious douchebag I've ever seen. Anywhere. Even movies.

/got nothing, unsurprised
2013-07-16 01:57:20 AM
1 votes:

mtbhucker: Representative of the unwashed masses: ontariolightning: ecmoRandomNumbers: Do Canadian politicians go to American Ivy League schools?

Harper is an evangelist who would be like American evangelist politicians except he knows the Canadian electorate would have him out of there on his ass so fast so he begrudgingly stays away from abortion &  gay marriage.


which makes him a smart politician.  I have no problem with a leader being pragmatic above pursuing personal goals that would go against the wishes of the populace.  And while strongly worded the memo really isn't that surprising.  You'd want the new guy/girl to be informed of who is helpful vs. combative to your office when you come in.

He is not that smart.  You should see who he thinks is trustworthy.  Hiring a con artist as a adviser, appointing thieves and women beaters to the Senate, and he has at least 2 RCMP investigations going on against his government.

So he's just you average dumbass Conservative.


I would go with arrogant. Usually fundie cons. are fueled by self righteousness and become arrogant.
 
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