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(Quartz)   K-pop is going k-poop   (qz.com) divider line 13
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2013-07-16 11:38:36 AM
1 votes:
The sound track to Hell
2013-07-16 11:34:24 AM
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Persnickety: If there's K-pop, does that means there's K-rock, K-lassical and K-rap as well?  Because that would be awesome.


Not really. A few years ago I got to shoot a Korean punk band that was performing in Tokyo and they complained that Korea's punk scene sucked because it was very, very small. Have heard similar from musician friends in the J-Punk scene who have performed in Korea.

A Korean former classmate of mine from language school does design work for a Korean TV station in Tokyo, mostly covering K-Pop stars. From what she's told me the alternative/indie scene in Korea is so small it might as well be a margin of error.
2013-07-16 10:38:04 AM
1 votes:
Pop sucks worldwide.  There are no exceptions.
2013-07-16 08:47:28 AM
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Moopy Mac: Old enough to know better: somemoron:

Haven't you ever heard of fun?  I don't look at them unless it's on youtube, otherwise it's on my mp3 player.  It's just fun to listen to, especially if you don't know the language.  Mindless?  Yep.  Guilty, but it's a nice break from Alice In Chains.

This. Some people need to lighten the fark up once in awhile.

Nicki Minaj makes fun music. So does Robin Thicke. And Miley Cyrus.


No she doesn't.
2013-07-16 08:29:25 AM
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TwistedFark: How can you guys be serious about this shiat? It's like every bad manufactured commercial pop band cliché rolled into one giant ball of suck and amplified by a thousand.


DjangoStonereaver: Americans fetishize J- and K-pop solely because it is from somewhere else, not because it is any better


News flash:  The U.S., Japan and Korea all have deeply cynical music industries that manufacture images and sell them to the unwashed masses with all the value and quality of theater popcorn.  Under the boot of that is a teeming mass of untalented hacks with their heads so far up their own asses that they don't realize they're only a bad con job away from being the next Rebecca Black.  I don't make much of a distinction between Carly Rae Jepsen and Girls' Generation, at least on a talent level.  90% of everything is crap and Asian pop music is no exception.

If you want diamonds you're going to have to search the rough.  For every Tool experimenting with lyrical Fibonacci sequences there's an angela using vocal techniques so advanced you have to basically be pro to sing her songs at all*.  Even setting that aside, I once translated one of her songs (something I am very experienced at mind you) and after struggling with multiple meanings in the lyrics I realized I was looking at poetry.  Nothing legendary mind you, but certainly a cut above this:

And I was like baby, baby, baby oooh
Like baby, baby, baby nooo
Like baby, baby, baby oooh
I thought you'd always be mine
Baby, baby, baby oooh
Like baby, baby, baby nooo
Like baby, baby, baby oooh
I thought you'd always be mine

Even within industry there are some people who know what they're doing.  Kalafina is purely an industry creation, but only in the sense that they're basically a toy for Yuki Kajiura to play with and holy hot shiat dayum is she a talented composer.  I tried to make a few arrangements of her music (something I am also quite experienced at mind you) but I gave up because the instrumentation was too perfectly balanced to mess with.

*Not to say this would always be the case, but the only singer I personally know who is capable of covering angela's "Shangri La" is so ridiculously good herself she just signed her own professional contract.
mhd
2013-07-16 07:23:36 AM
1 votes:
Meh, they still make billions, they just don't make more than they did last year. Cry me a river, non-threatening Asian boys/girls.

It's going to be all over anyway once the Uncanny Valley is breached and both Korea and Japan will go all out Idoru. Even more money for the managers.
2013-07-16 06:52:55 AM
1 votes:

TwistedFark: How can you guys be serious about this shiat? It's like every bad manufactured commercial pop band cliché rolled into one giant ball of suck and amplified by a thousand.

No one can be that hard up to look at passably attractive Asian girls. fark, haven't you heard of redtube?


Haven't you ever heard of fun?  I don't look at them unless it's on youtube, otherwise it's on my mp3 player.  It's just fun to listen to, especially if you don't know the language.  Mindless?  Yep.  Guilty, but it's a nice break from Alice In Chains.
2013-07-16 06:47:18 AM
1 votes:
How can you guys be serious about this shiat? It's like every bad manufactured commercial pop band cliché rolled into one giant ball of suck and amplified by a thousand.

No one can be that hard up to look at passably attractive Asian girls. fark, haven't you heard of redtube?
2013-07-16 06:40:34 AM
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Old enough to know better: Its not high art, but damnit I enjoy K and J-Pop a hell of a lot more than its American counterparts just because its energetic and fun. Something that seems to have been forgotten over here when it comes to music.

Current favorite:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqP1xzRZkw

Oh and they're a Japanese group, but still, dayum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkHlnWFnA0c


Uh... holy shiat, I think I'm in love.  With ALL of them.  Damn.

\And you are right on with the fun bit.  The 80's used to be fun music.  I dread when the 90's emo shiat starts up over there.
2013-07-16 06:20:04 AM
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Its not high art, but damnit I enjoy K and J-Pop a hell of a lot more than its American counterparts just because its energetic and fun. Something that seems to have been forgotten over here when it comes to music.

Current favorite:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUqP1xzRZkw

Oh and they're a Japanese group, but still, dayum.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lkHlnWFnA0c
2013-07-16 04:57:32 AM
1 votes:
J-Pop has always been better anyway.
2013-07-16 01:11:38 AM
1 votes:
it's just that the PSY bubble has burst
2013-07-15 09:25:55 PM
1 votes:
From your lips to God's ears, subby.
 
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