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2013-07-15 06:40:46 PM  
Good to see CRACKED back to 2 pages for a 5 item story.
 
2013-07-15 06:51:00 PM  
If they're so horrifying, why do they want us to see them? Or are they not actually secrets? Sounds to me like subby is a liar.
 
2013-07-15 06:57:09 PM  
Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously
 
2013-07-15 07:32:38 PM  
I guess some grocery stores like whole foods want you to know this about their competitors (but not themselves)?
 
2013-07-15 07:37:39 PM  
Hate to tell you this subby, but there is literally poop everywhere, and its actually ok to be exposed to little bits of it - that's what your immune system is for.
  Now obviously, if there is visible poop on the cart, then you shouldn't use it.  And produce should always be washed, mostly due to salmonella  (especially melons - wash thoroughly before slicing)

  As for the other stuff, most of that is already known and not that gross.  You can actually eat most many spoiled foods with minimal health effects, it will just make you retch if it smells or tastes gross.  Peanut butter for example can go rancid, but that's about the worst that happens to it.  For many, many foods, the date on the package is a sell by date, not a use by date, which could be months or years later in some cases.
 
2013-07-15 08:32:28 PM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Hate to tell you this subby, but there is literally poop everywhere, and its actually ok to be exposed to little bits of it - that's what your immune system is for.
  Now obviously, if there is visible poop on the cart, then you shouldn't use it.  And produce should always be washed, mostly due to salmonella  (especially melons - wash thoroughly before slicing)

  As for the other stuff, most of that is already known and not that gross.  You can actually eat most many spoiled foods with minimal health effects, it will just make you retch if it smells or tastes gross.  Peanut butter for example can go rancid, but that's about the worst that happens to it.  For many, many foods, the date on the package is a sell by date, not a use by date, which could be months or years later in some cases.


My rule is if it has to be stored in the fridge, it's gone within 24 hours of the use by date. Stored at room temperature, it's fine. I buy meat in the red sticker (huge markdown for close to expiring at my supermarket) area and freeze it. Thaw it out 24 hours beforehand and you've got cheap meat for a meal.
 
2013-07-15 08:50:08 PM  
www.ci.temple-city.ca.us

Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.

That's what the fold down seat with the two legs holes up front is there for. That way 20 or 50 different babies can leave 'their mark' all over that seat and handle area. Ever seen store employees wiping them down?
 
2013-07-15 09:04:02 PM  
Well, which is it? Do they want us to know them or not?

/already knew them
 
2013-07-15 09:08:40 PM  

Godscrack: [www.ci.temple-city.ca.us image 500x500]

Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.


Yes...that was explained in the article.
 
2013-07-15 09:27:32 PM  
I'm surprised that people are unaware of #5.

First thing I do when I come home from the market?  Wash my hands.
 
2013-07-15 09:33:33 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously


Dumpster runs?  You use a grocery cart to take your trash to the dumpster?
 
2013-07-15 09:42:38 PM  

timujin: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

Dumpster runs?  You use a grocery cart to take your trash to the dumpster?


Yes. I take a lot of garbage out, working for a restaurant and all. The grocery store is okay with this practice.
 
2013-07-15 09:52:45 PM  
I don't care about most of these, at a glance.  Mislabeling food as other food, though, is not okay.
 
2013-07-15 09:59:16 PM  

Equilibrist: Good to see CRACKED back to 2 pages for a 5 item story.


Will you f*cking get over it? It's ONE EXTRA CLICK.
 
2013-07-15 10:21:45 PM  

timujin: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

Dumpster runs?  You use a grocery cart to take your trash to the dumpster?


Yep.  I've worked at three different supermarkets when I was going to school and EVERY ONE of them did this same thing.

Hell one supermarket used to dump their deli slop and grease this way.  And Buffy never bothered to wipe the card down afterwards.  At the end of the night you could always tell which cart in the cart corral was hers.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:28 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously


I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."
 
2013-07-15 11:11:08 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: timujin: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

Dumpster runs?  You use a grocery cart to take your trash to the dumpster?

Yes. I take a lot of garbage out, working for a restaurant and all. The grocery store is okay with this practice.


ah, all good... I didn't make the jump to "professional" and thought this was for your personal waste.  I was wondering if you were either a: generating a ton of trash or b: only bothered to take it out on a once every six months kind of basis.
 
2013-07-15 11:37:36 PM  
And then people wonder why the rates of food poisoning is so different between US and Europe ?
 
2013-07-15 11:40:31 PM  

eraser8: 'm surprised that people are unaware of #5.


being mentioned in a crack article doesn't mean people aren't aware of it.
 
2013-07-15 11:40:43 PM  
I was only bothered by the ice cream potpourri. Seriously--any of that weird B&J potato chip pickle and hot sauce ice cream crap can just magically be turned into chocolate?!? Ewwww
 
2013-07-15 11:40:49 PM  
All that and yet I'm still alive, so I give all 5 "secrets" a solid meh.
 
2013-07-15 11:41:38 PM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."


That is why I don't wipe my man-chicken before I put it in your mouth after slamming it savagely up your backside.  It's organic.

/All this talk about dumpsters and shopping carts make me want to fondle a hobo.
 
2013-07-15 11:42:30 PM  
For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.
 
2013-07-15 11:43:49 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.


Also things that have failed to kill me. Meh.
 
2013-07-15 11:44:12 PM  
#6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.
 
2013-07-15 11:44:16 PM  
People still go to supermarkets that don't have disinfectant wipes  right at the entrance?
 
2013-07-15 11:44:32 PM  

Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Hate to tell you this subby, but there is literally poop everywhere, and its actually ok to be exposed to little bits of it - that's what your immune system is for.
  Now obviously, if there is visible poop on the cart, then you shouldn't use it.  And produce should always be washed, mostly due to salmonella  (especially melons - wash thoroughly before slicing)

  As for the other stuff, most of that is already known and not that gross.  You can actually eat most many spoiled foods with minimal health effects, it will just make you retch if it smells or tastes gross.  Peanut butter for example can go rancid, but that's about the worst that happens to it.  For many, many foods, the date on the package is a sell by date, not a use by date, which could be months or years later in some cases.

My rule is if it has to be stored in the fridge, it's gone within 24 hours of the use by date. Stored at room temperature, it's fine. I buy meat in the red sticker (huge markdown for close to expiring at my supermarket) area and freeze it. Thaw it out 24 hours beforehand and you've got cheap meat for a meal.


You're potentially wasting a lot of food. 24hours? Be brave, the smell test works, really.

Even after that, there's cutting mold away and boiling. I'm not saying I do that, but as Americans, we throw away tons of perfectly serviceable foods.
 
2013-07-15 11:45:23 PM  
I eat unwashed produce, old food, food that's been left out overnight, use the same cutting board for produce and meat, etc...
 
2013-07-15 11:46:19 PM  
http://youtu.be/dMN00JD2AaM (nsfw language)

/oblig
 
2013-07-15 11:46:40 PM  

cameroncrazy1984: People still go to supermarkets that don't have disinfectant wipes  right at the entrance?


At my supermarket, those are in aisle 7
 
2013-07-15 11:47:19 PM  
Three horrifying secrets Cracked doesn't want you to know:

3. Bill Ward, who contributed artwork to the magazine in the 1980s, was better known for his fetish porn illustrations.

2. The author of this listicle doesn't tell you how commonplace each of these practices actually is, because he doesn't know.

1. Cracked.com is just BuzzFeed with different ads.
 
2013-07-15 11:47:30 PM  
Headline: "5 Horrifying Secrets Supermarkets Don't Want You to Know"

They were neither horriying, nor secrets.  So, yeah -- it's a standard Cracked article.

Why do people still greenlight junk from that stie?
 
2013-07-15 11:48:01 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.


Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?
 
2013-07-15 11:48:33 PM  

Godscrack: Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.

That's what the fold down seat with the two legs holes up front is there for. That way 20 or 50 different babies can leave 'their mark' all over that seat and handle area. Ever seen store employees wiping them down?


I've never seen anyone like hand wiping them, but I've seen the store like hosing them off.
 
2013-07-15 11:48:54 PM  

Deedeemarz: I was only bothered by the ice cream potpourri. Seriously--any of that weird B&J potato chip pickle and hot sauce ice cream crap can just magically be turned into chocolate?!? Ewwww


Really?  That was the least bothersome one to me, because hey, you end up with chocolate ice cream! Woot!

Not that the others were terribly bothersome either...using Walmart as the example for a grocery store with terrible meat practices kinda comes with a huge 'NO DUH!'.  I can only assume it's store policy to advance the expiration date after the meat has been sitting in a bin all day at Customer Returns.
 
2013-07-15 11:48:54 PM  
I used to work at a grocery store, so I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies...

Uh, still reading the article.
 
2013-07-15 11:49:16 PM  
The last one, about health inspections is the one that should worry you. My industry is taken to task over and over again about food borne illness, and groceries aren't held anywhere near as accountable.
 
2013-07-15 11:50:51 PM  
OK, that was a stupid nonarticle.
 
2013-07-15 11:51:56 PM  
I've worked for two different grocery chains over the past thirteen years.

Most of this list is chock full of crap (more than you'd find on a shopping cart).
 
2013-07-15 11:52:06 PM  
As someone who works in a grocery store Meat Dept. this is only the tip of the iceberg, and I work for one of the better companies.
 
2013-07-15 11:52:46 PM  

Gaddiel: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?


Whatever it is, I'm sure the brine solution will take care of it.
 
2013-07-15 11:53:12 PM  
www.tommackieracing.com

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.
 
2013-07-15 11:53:15 PM  

PainInTheASP: timujin: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

Dumpster runs?  You use a grocery cart to take your trash to the dumpster?

Yep.  I've worked at three different supermarkets when I was going to school and EVERY ONE of them did this same thing.

Hell one supermarket used to dump their deli slop and grease this way.  And Buffy never bothered to wipe the card down afterwards.  At the end of the night you could always tell which cart in the cart corral was hers.


I must've worked at the exception. I was at a supermarket deli on Long Island, and, sure, we used a shopping cart to haul around our slop... but it was the same filthy, grungy, festering slop-covered shopping cart every day, dammit. And holy carp, was that thing scary to behold. But we never put it back into the general population.

Also, #3 on that list can vary in terribleness. At my store, we frequently cooked with the meat and cheese ends/leftovers/stuff that didn't sell, and our manager was awesome but was a hardass about keeping the deli clean.

I'm willing to accept we were the outlier, and things could've gone to shiat since I left and/or before I was ever there.
 
2013-07-15 11:53:25 PM  

poot_rootbeer: Three horrifying secrets Cracked doesn't want you to know:

3. Bill Ward, who contributed artwork to the magazine in the 1980s, was better known for his fetish porn illustrations.

2. The author of this listicle doesn't tell you how commonplace each of these practices actually is, because he doesn't know.

1. Cracked.com is just BuzzFeed with different ads.


Dude...you forgot a page break in there somewhere.
 
2013-07-15 11:55:25 PM  
E. coli.

The presence of E. coli is not a positive indicator of the presence of poop, you can also find it in dirt, which means that your shopping cart might have dirt on it.

"Coliforms can be found in the aquatic environment, in soil and on vegetation; they are universally present in large numbers in the feces of warm-blooded animals. While coliforms themselves are not normally causes of serious illness, they are easy to culture and their presence is used to indicate that other pathogenic organisms of fecal origin may be present. "

// or, it might be poop lordargent.com
 
2013-07-15 11:55:31 PM  

Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.


I thought it was usually a combination of nitrogen and carbon dioxide?
 
2013-07-15 11:56:39 PM  
I lick the soles of my shoes clean after every time I come in from outside.

Nothing from the grocery store could possibly harm me.
 
2013-07-15 11:57:03 PM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.


Why? Was there some sort of "pickle incident"that we all should be aware of?
 
2013-07-15 11:57:43 PM  
Walmart ... And that's not the Kwik-E-Mart, it's the biggest grocery chain in the world.

I think I would rather get food from the Kwik-E-Mart than Walmart.
 
2013-07-15 11:59:01 PM  

Shostie: Equilibrist: Good to see CRACKED back to 2 pages for a 5 item story.

Will you f*cking get over it? It's ONE EXTRA CLICK.


Don't you know, that one extra click for free content is just too much farking effort.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x8m5d0_everything-is-amazing-and-no bo dy-i_fun#.UeTFC43bMig
 
2013-07-16 12:00:25 AM  
That's why all those 'mericuns are starving to death.
 
2013-07-16 12:00:47 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."


What did she think organic fertilizer was?

/Spoiler alert: it's poop.
 
2013-07-16 12:02:37 AM  

Mokmo: And then people wonder why the rates of food poisoning is so different between US and Europe ?


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_E.Coli_outbreak
 
2013-07-16 12:04:00 AM  
When I first moved out on my own and went to the grocery store I bought some pepperoni (it was pre-sliced for pizza and packaged in that tight plastic then put into a cardboard box and refrigerated).  Anyway, after I got home and opened it looked and felt weird.  I looked at the date and saw it had expired months ago :/.  I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me to check the date beforehand.  That was the first time I started to realize grocery stores might not be on the up and up.

Also, I'm glad I wipe down my cart every time.  I always feel like people look at me funny when I do, but whatever.

Also, when people say wash your produce, I've never known what that meant exactly for different people.  I generally rinse and then wipe them dry with a paper towel.  Do people use soap or something?  I've always worried that I'm doing it wrong.
 
2013-07-16 12:04:39 AM  
#5 is the same old "X has more germs on it than a toilet seat" garble.
 
2013-07-16 12:04:56 AM  

Relatively Obscure: I don't care about most of these, at a glance.  Mislabeling food as other food, though, is not okay.


"Reconditioning Food Programs" that are allowed by the FDA?  Not cool.
 
2013-07-16 12:06:07 AM  
If the pink slime Fark threads have taught me anything, it's that you are some kind of weirdo liberal fruit if you don't swallow anything and everything a business owner wants to sell you.
 
2013-07-16 12:06:16 AM  

PillsHere: When I first moved out on my own and went to the grocery store I bought some pepperoni (it was pre-sliced for pizza and packaged in that tight plastic then put into a cardboard box and refrigerated).  Anyway, after I got home and opened it looked and felt weird.  I looked at the date and saw it had expired months ago :/.  I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me to check the date beforehand.  That was the first time I started to realize grocery stores might not be on the up and up.

Also, I'm glad I wipe down my cart every time.  I always feel like people look at me funny when I do, but whatever.

Also, when people say wash your produce, I've never known what that meant exactly for different people.  I generally rinse and then wipe them dry with a paper towel.  Do people use soap or something?  I've always worried that I'm doing it wrong.


NEVER use soap.  You want to wash it under water with some sort of abrasion.  A vegetable brush is handy to have around (just wash it after you use it every time, keep it in a drawer and don't use it for cleaning your pans).
 
2013-07-16 12:07:34 AM  

Big Dave: If the pink slime Fark threads have taught me anything, it's that you are some kind of weirdo liberal fruit if you don't swallow anything and everything a business owner wants to sell you.


If the Pink Slime Fark threads have taught me anything, it's that if you come up with a cutsey name for something and say that McDonald's uses it in their food, people will believe that it's evil and that McDonald's uses it in their food, even if they don't.
 
2013-07-16 12:07:36 AM  

Gaddiel: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?


Is it because of that guy who was fired for putting his dick in the pickle slicer?
 
2013-07-16 12:10:45 AM  
Is there any place poop free???
 
2013-07-16 12:10:49 AM  

JohnnyRebel88: Relatively Obscure: I don't care about most of these, at a glance.  Mislabeling food as other food, though, is not okay.

"Reconditioning Food Programs" that are allowed by the FDA?  Not cool.


Why not? Is it causing any problems?

How much food is it okay to waste because it sounds yucky?
 
2013-07-16 12:11:30 AM  

JesseL: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Also things that have failed to kill me. Meh.


Mabey it did not kill you. Mabey it was the best steak I ever ate. But if I found out that the steak had spent 2 days marinating in loogies and pee I still would not have seconds.
 
2013-07-16 12:11:34 AM  

eraser8: I'm surprised that people are unaware of #5.

First thing I do when I come home from the market?  Wash my hands.


Do you also wipe down your car handle, seat belt and steering wheel?

Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.


Yes, because how did humans ever manage before? Germs are everywhere. And you have microscopic mites on your eyelashes.

/oh god, get em off, get em off!!!!
 
2013-07-16 12:11:49 AM  
What sort of crap grocery store is this article referring to? The store I work in has frequent unannounced white glove inspections that are very particular. If things aren't sold by the sell-by date, especially meat, it goes to the deli to be served within a day. If it doesn't sell, it goes in the pig bin, along with everything else. None of this redating garbage. And the fish commentary is just stupid. It's not your grocery store that's lying to you about what fish you're eating, those lies start much further up the chain.
 
2013-07-16 12:11:55 AM  

JesseL: All that and yet I'm still alive, so I give all 5 "secrets" a solid meh.


The drive to the supermarket is far more dangerous than anything at the supermarket.
 
2013-07-16 12:13:32 AM  

litespeed74: Is there any place poop free???


Maybe, and hilariously, Uranus.
 
2013-07-16 12:13:46 AM  
but she poops in there!
seriouslyforreal.com
 
2013-07-16 12:13:59 AM  

Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.


You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.
 
2013-07-16 12:14:34 AM  

eraser8: I'm surprised that people are unaware of #5.

First thing I do when I come home from the market?  Wash my hands.


By the time you wash your hands you have already transferred that poop to your keys, car, home doorhandles, and sink taps.
You can not escape the poop.
 
2013-07-16 12:16:52 AM  
Didn't the Mythbusters do a show on storing your toothbrush near the toilet vs. elsewhere and inadvertently discovered that pretty much everything in the world which is anywhere near humans is covered in human poop?
 
2013-07-16 12:16:56 AM  

Ivo Shandor: Gaddiel: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?

Is it because of that guy who was fired for putting his dick in the pickle slicer?


Kids piss in the pickle jar. Never witnessed it but have heard from several sources. Also kids will put frozen patties on their feet and skate across the floor on them.
also kids will piss in oven cleaner. That one I did witness.

as for the coffe grinder I once saw a fat bas*ard gob a steady stream of loogies into the grinder. For like 20 damn minutes.

saw kids in the meat department slapping eachother with steaks. Shiat if I think back to my days as a teen working in grocery stores Im sure I could remember some other doozies. Hell I quit buger king over the oven cleaner thing.

Im all for shenanigans. But pulling a tyler durden on the food supply crosses a line to me.
mainly cause I love to eat.
 
2013-07-16 12:17:17 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously


how much should we wash it? a simple rinse down in the sink?  use soap?  bleach? scrub down?
 
2013-07-16 12:18:18 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: JesseL: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Also things that have failed to kill me. Meh.

Mabey it did not kill you. Mabey it was the best steak I ever ate. But if I found out that the steak had spent 2 days marinating in loogies and pee I still would not have seconds.


Honestly, the way you misspell maybe is way more upsetting.

/priorities, I have them
 
2013-07-16 12:18:21 AM  

meanmutton: PillsHere: When I first moved out on my own and went to the grocery store I bought some pepperoni (it was pre-sliced for pizza and packaged in that tight plastic then put into a cardboard box and refrigerated).  Anyway, after I got home and opened it looked and felt weird.  I looked at the date and saw it had expired months ago :/.  I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me to check the date beforehand.  That was the first time I started to realize grocery stores might not be on the up and up.

Also, I'm glad I wipe down my cart every time.  I always feel like people look at me funny when I do, but whatever.

Also, when people say wash your produce, I've never known what that meant exactly for different people.  I generally rinse and then wipe them dry with a paper towel.  Do people use soap or something?  I've always worried that I'm doing it wrong.

NEVER use soap.  You want to wash it under water with some sort of abrasion.  A vegetable brush is handy to have around (just wash it after you use it every time, keep it in a drawer and don't use it for cleaning your pans).


Why not use soap?  Unless your fruit is organic it's covered with waxy/oily pesticides and a bit of dish detergent is one of the only safe ways to remove it.

Wash a non organic apple with a drop of soap and marvel at the new non waxy texture the peel has.  And grapes? Have fun individually washing those with a brush.
 
2013-07-16 12:19:45 AM  

Thingster: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Hate to tell you this subby, but there is literally poop everywhere, and its actually ok to be exposed to little bits of it - that's what your immune system is for.
  Now obviously, if there is visible poop on the cart, then you shouldn't use it.  And produce should always be washed, mostly due to salmonella  (especially melons - wash thoroughly before slicing)

  As for the other stuff, most of that is already known and not that gross.  You can actually eat most many spoiled foods with minimal health effects, it will just make you retch if it smells or tastes gross.  Peanut butter for example can go rancid, but that's about the worst that happens to it.  For many, many foods, the date on the package is a sell by date, not a use by date, which could be months or years later in some cases.

My rule is if it has to be stored in the fridge, it's gone within 24 hours of the use by date. Stored at room temperature, it's fine. I buy meat in the red sticker (huge markdown for close to expiring at my supermarket) area and freeze it. Thaw it out 24 hours beforehand and you've got cheap meat for a meal.

You're potentially wasting a lot of food. 24hours? Be brave, the smell test works, really.

Even after that, there's cutting mold away and boiling. I'm not saying I do that, but as Americans, we throw away tons of perfectly serviceable foods.


Agreed, wasting a lot of food.  Just in case you don't know, that date on eggs is a sell by date - they're usually good at least 3 weeks past that is properly stored.  in fact, if you're making hard boiled eggs, you usually want them at least a week past that date.
     Condiments are also generally fine well past the date, but it depends.  Mayo should go sooner rather than later - it can go longer if its a squeeze bottle vs a jar you put a knife into.  Mustard lasts a very long time.  Tonight I actually used Salad dressing that had a "Best By" date of October 2012, and it tasted completely fine.  It has been in my fridge and not sitting out in the summer heat, which helps.
 
2013-07-16 12:19:58 AM  

jsmilky: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

how much should we wash it? a simple rinse down in the sink?  use soap?  bleach? scrub down?


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2013-07-16 12:20:12 AM  

cameroncrazy1984: People still go to supermarkets that don't have disinfectant wipes  right at the entrance?


I never realized they were there for that reason.
Makes sense I guess, so that all the Howie Mandels, and Adrian Monks of the world don't starve to death.

I have never had a problem with any of that stuff.
Many years ago, I supervised janitorial crews, and we used to clean toilets, garbage cans, sinks, whatever, without gloves, and none of us even got the sniffles.

The workers at the offices we cleaned however, were out sick all the time despite the fact that we cleaned and disinfected damn near everything, every night.

We used to even do the door knobs, push bars, banisters etc because that's what they wanted, and paid for.
These were state offices, and it was almost laughable watching the officer workers coming to work  wearing surgical masks during flu season, and using a pen to touch the elevator buttons.
 
2013-07-16 12:20:59 AM  
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2013-07-16 12:21:11 AM  

lewismarktwo: meanmutton: PillsHere: When I first moved out on my own and went to the grocery store I bought some pepperoni (it was pre-sliced for pizza and packaged in that tight plastic then put into a cardboard box and refrigerated).  Anyway, after I got home and opened it looked and felt weird.  I looked at the date and saw it had expired months ago :/.  I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me to check the date beforehand.  That was the first time I started to realize grocery stores might not be on the up and up.

Also, I'm glad I wipe down my cart every time.  I always feel like people look at me funny when I do, but whatever.

Also, when people say wash your produce, I've never known what that meant exactly for different people.  I generally rinse and then wipe them dry with a paper towel.  Do people use soap or something?  I've always worried that I'm doing it wrong.

NEVER use soap.  You want to wash it under water with some sort of abrasion.  A vegetable brush is handy to have around (just wash it after you use it every time, keep it in a drawer and don't use it for cleaning your pans).

Why not use soap?  Unless your fruit is organic it's covered with waxy/oily pesticides and a bit of dish detergent is one of the only safe ways to remove it.

Wash a non organic apple with a drop of soap and marvel at the new non waxy texture the peel has.  And grapes? Have fun individually washing those with a brush.


I got the grape thing covered; Mrs LC peels them all for me and puts them in a container for me to take to work.
 
2013-07-16 12:21:40 AM  

Oldiron_79: Godscrack: Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.

That's what the fold down seat with the two legs holes up front is there for. That way 20 or 50 different babies can leave 'their mark' all over that seat and handle area. Ever seen store employees wiping them down?

I've never seen anyone like hand wiping them, but I've seen the store like hosing them off.


The big stores do actually clean the carts, professionally. That's something the author either omitted or just didn't know about.

I've worked at a grocery store before, and have seen this done at many other stores for other companies.

It may only happen once a month, but it does happen. And how do they do it? A car wash! I'm not joking either, I've actually watched it. There's companies that large stores contract with, who will bring a trailer mounted washer system that the carts get pushed through. And the one I saw before literally looked like any regular car wash with rotating brushes inside, just smaller and mobile.

Was kinda interesting to watch as they pushed about 10 carts through at a time, the machine scrubed them, while an assistant stood at the exit with a pressure hose and rinsed them off.
 
2013-07-16 12:22:07 AM  

fusillade762: Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.

I thought it was usually a combination of nitrogen and carbon dioxide?


Unless it's the fresh made sandwich spread in the meat dept. Then it could be kool-ade. Unscrupulous stores will make it out of past date hot dogs and bologna and add a little red mix to restore the fresh look.
Food recycling happens, but it can be done safely. This is not safe.

/20 yrs.grocery retail experience.
/Quit in March to finish my degree.
 
2013-07-16 12:23:30 AM  

LiberalConservative: I got the grape thing covered; Mrs LC peels them all for me


o O

Are you joking?
 
2013-07-16 12:25:25 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.


What's wrong with the pickles. I just got sliders at Krystal. Am I gonna be OK? Also what about the coffee grinder?
 
2013-07-16 12:25:35 AM  

Nuclear Monk: Deedeemarz: I was only bothered by the ice cream potpourri. Seriously--any of that weird B&J potato chip pickle and hot sauce ice cream crap can just magically be turned into chocolate?!? Ewwww

Really?  That was the least bothersome one to me, because hey, you end up with chocolate ice cream! Woot!

Not that the others were terribly bothersome either...using Walmart as the example for a grocery store with terrible meat practices kinda comes with a huge 'NO DUH!'.  I can only assume it's store policy to advance the expiration date after the meat has been sitting in a bin all day at Customer Returns.


I am a nurse. Got over E. coli years ago and pretty much immune to food borne illness from years of eating food that has set out for way too long. Just don't like the idea of unchocolate becoming chocolate 😱
 
2013-07-16 12:25:55 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: Yes, because how did humans ever manage before?


By dying at much younger ages due to a lack of medicine and sanitation?
 
2013-07-16 12:29:00 AM  

thisisyourbrainonFark: LiberalConservative: I got the grape thing covered; Mrs LC peels them all for me

o O

Are you joking?


Not at all. She also peels my grapefruit, even removing the bitter segment walls. I have never asked her to do this. Think is a Chinese thing.
 
2013-07-16 12:31:00 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: thisisyourbrainonFark: Yes, because how did humans ever manage before?

By dying at much younger ages due to a lack of medicine and sanitation?


And yet life expectancy has increased over the past several decades without people wiping down their carts until now.
 
2013-07-16 12:31:04 AM  
that article was a load of crap. well maybe it's true for some grocery stores - wouldn't surprise me.

I work for a big chain here in the Southeast so let me chime in:

#5. There Is Poop on the Shopping Carts
while not impossible, many carts do get cleaned. customers wipe them down several times a day now that we have so many germaphobes in this country. they also get left out in the rain often. and believe it or not, at least 4 times a year they get pressure washed in the middle of the night. so yes, they do get cleaned occasionally. wipe down your carts before you use them and don't put food in the "seat" area, dumbass.

#4. They Change Expiration Dates (and It's Usually Legal)

the only time i've seen this done is if something is cut late at night (ie, it just lost a full day) or due to an error. not saying it doesn't happen and i'm pretty sure it's not legal.


#3. Food Gets Recycled

 what. a load. of bullshiat. well, sort of. anything perishable gets tossed - especially anything frozen like ice cream. what? do you think grocery stores want to pay for a refrigerated truck to send that shiat back to the manufacturer? no - they toss it in the trash and the manufacturer either gives us credit or we take a loss. the one exception here is produce - those fresh cut salads and fruit slices? some of them may be from 1 day expired product (expired but no visible/smelly/whatever defects) or damaged product (cut strawberries might be from a case of strawberries that had a moldy one it). all fruit and veggies are washed thoroughly before they are cut. this much is true.

#2. The Meat Might Be Wearing a Disguise

pretty sure it's illegal and if it happens mostly due to a misprint. I know Europe had a problem with this recently. fact is, you can tell most meat just by looking at it though I suppose some of the cheaper cuts may start to look similar.

#1. The Health Inspection System Is, Let's Say, Rather Lax

bull-farking-shiat. I have actually seen the USDA shut down departments and entire stores for extreme violations before (one such one was a deli that for some reason had no hot water - USDA shut them down for 2 days!) additionally fines are often given for violations which is a good motivator to keep your stuff clean because the USDA often shows up randomly and without warning. I will admit that shiat happens sometimes though. if you reach into a cold case and it clearly isn't cold you probably shouldn't buy whatever is in there - they do break sometimes - let someone who works there know so that they can throw out the product if it's temp is more than 10 degrees above 34-42.
 
2013-07-16 12:32:09 AM  
Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Condiments are also generally fine well past the date, but it depends. Mayo should go sooner rather than later

I once heard that mayo was invented in France to overpower the taste of spoiling meats.

// mayo is one of the few things on the short list of food items that I will not eat (along with beets and pickles), which is odd because I can eat eggs and oil (in the case of mayo), and vinegar and cucumber (in the case of pickles), but something goes wrong when they are combined. BEETS OTOH are horrid no matter the preparation.
 
2013-07-16 12:32:46 AM  

LiberalConservative: thisisyourbrainonFark: LiberalConservative: I got the grape thing covered; Mrs LC peels them all for me

o O

Are you joking?

Not at all. She also peels my grapefruit, even removing the bitter segment walls. I have never asked her to do this. Think is a Chinese thing.


Peeling the grapes just seems utterly time-consuming. I only do it with my M&Ms.
 
HBK
2013-07-16 12:32:58 AM  

hubiestubert: The last one, about health inspections is the one that should worry you. My industry is taken to task over and over again about food borne illness, and groceries aren't held anywhere near as accountable.


There's a new Kroger near my house. My first trip there the girl bagged pork, chicken, and produce in the same bag.

When I worked at a grocery store, that would have gotten you an immediate write-up.
 
2013-07-16 12:33:14 AM  
PROTIP:  Live in another country for a while. Buy groceries. Become horrified at what passes for food in the US versus the rest of the world.
 
2013-07-16 12:37:17 AM  

ArcadianRefugee: thisisyourbrainonFark: Yes, because how did humans ever manage before?

By dying at much younger ages due to a lack of medicine and sanitation?


Generally, the life expectancy numbers you're thinking of were lower because people died in childhood a lot more. Because kids and the elderly have weaker immune systems than adults. If you made it past 12, you had a pretty good chance at a nice long life. But a lot of people died at 3 or whatever, so the average gets dragged down to 45 or whatever.

Seriously, you have a farking immune system for a reason. Unless it's compromised in some way, the whole bubble boy thing will make you less healthy, not more.
 
2013-07-16 12:37:31 AM  

Dreamless: I used to work at a grocery store, so I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies...

Uh, still reading the article.


I still work at a grocery store and while I'm also getting a kick, I'm kinda shaking my head too...
 
2013-07-16 12:38:09 AM  
Meh.  I know all my meat is exactly what it's supposed to be.  100% dead deer.
 
2013-07-16 12:38:57 AM  
Meh.

Do know how much rat crap, rat hair, and insect bits the FDA allows you to eat on a daily basis.  It's pretty safe to assume if you eat three times a day, you'll get at least a little of each.

Every day.
 
2013-07-16 12:39:00 AM  
Wonder how many people know there is a bit of ground up rat in all bags of flour.  Not much, but vermin love a giant silo full of food and you can't keep all of them out.  There's actually a specified acceptable limit to what portion(very tiny) of your milled flour can be rat.  Sorry vegans.

Life is not clean and neat.  Modern life has taken a lot of the dirty and messy parts out of life but someone still has to do it.  When my grandmother would find bugs in the flour she wouldn't throw it away and buy a new bag, she'd just get out the sifter and sift them out.  Milk went sour?  Okay, just use it for baking.  Fuzzy mold on top of the jam?  Just scrape it off and use the rest.  Fruit starting to rot?  Make a pie.  Most of these things don't hurt you.  They may taste a bit funny but they aren't harmful and can actually help boost your immune system.
 
2013-07-16 12:39:56 AM  

ModernLuddite: PROTIP:  Live in another country for a while. Buy groceries. Become horrified at what passes for food in the US versus the rest of the world.


Mexico? China? Sudan?

I think you'll find that most people in "the rest of the world" will gladly eat the stuff you're turning your nose up at.
 
2013-07-16 12:42:39 AM  

hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.


But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?
 
2013-07-16 12:43:49 AM  

Gaddiel: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?


1.bp.blogspot.com

Step into my office
 
2013-07-16 12:45:25 AM  

LiberalConservative: lewismarktwo: meanmutton: PillsHere: When I first moved out on my own and went to the grocery store I bought some pepperoni (it was pre-sliced for pizza and packaged in that tight plastic then put into a cardboard box and refrigerated).  Anyway, after I got home and opened it looked and felt weird.  I looked at the date and saw it had expired months ago :/.  I'm not sure why it didn't dawn on me to check the date beforehand.  That was the first time I started to realize grocery stores might not be on the up and up.

Also, I'm glad I wipe down my cart every time.  I always feel like people look at me funny when I do, but whatever.

Also, when people say wash your produce, I've never known what that meant exactly for different people.  I generally rinse and then wipe them dry with a paper towel.  Do people use soap or something?  I've always worried that I'm doing it wrong.

NEVER use soap.  You want to wash it under water with some sort of abrasion.  A vegetable brush is handy to have around (just wash it after you use it every time, keep it in a drawer and don't use it for cleaning your pans).

Why not use soap?  Unless your fruit is organic it's covered with waxy/oily pesticides and a bit of dish detergent is one of the only safe ways to remove it.

Wash a non organic apple with a drop of soap and marvel at the new non waxy texture the peel has.  And grapes? Have fun individually washing those with a brush.

I got the grape thing covered; Mrs LC peels them all for me and puts them in a container for me to take to work.


Soaking fruits and veggies in the sink in cold water with about a 1/4 cup of white vinegar has worked for me so far. Then a quick rinse and no vinegar taste left over.
 
2013-07-16 12:46:27 AM  

ModernLuddite: PROTIP:  Live in another country for a while. Buy groceries. Become horrified at what passes for food in the US versus the rest of the world.


I get what you're saying, but seeing milk and eggs out unrefrigerated at the Carrefour still weirds me out a bit.
 
2013-07-16 12:46:50 AM  

Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Thingster: Snarcoleptic_Hoosier: Rising_Zan_Samurai_Gunman: Hate to tell you this subby, but there is literally poop everywhere, and its actually ok to be exposed to little bits of it - that's what your immune system is for.
  Now obviously, if there is visible poop on the cart, then you shouldn't use it.  And produce should always be washed, mostly due to salmonella  (especially melons - wash thoroughly before slicing)

  As for the other stuff, most of that is already known and not that gross.  You can actually eat most many spoiled foods with minimal health effects, it will just make you retch if it smells or tastes gross.  Peanut butter for example can go rancid, but that's about the worst that happens to it.  For many, many foods, the date on the package is a sell by date, not a use by date, which could be months or years later in some cases.

My rule is if it has to be stored in the fridge, it's gone within 24 hours of the use by date. Stored at room temperature, it's fine. I buy meat in the red sticker (huge markdown for close to expiring at my supermarket) area and freeze it. Thaw it out 24 hours beforehand and you've got cheap meat for a meal.

You're potentially wasting a lot of food. 24hours? Be brave, the smell test works, really.

Even after that, there's cutting mold away and boiling. I'm not saying I do that, but as Americans, we throw away tons of perfectly serviceable foods.

Agreed, wasting a lot of food.  Just in case you don't know, that date on eggs is a sell by date - they're usually good at least 3 weeks past that is properly stored.  in fact, if you're making hard boiled eggs, you usually want them at least a week past that date.
     Condiments are also generally fine well past the date, but it depends.  Mayo should go sooner rather than later - it can go longer if its a squeeze bottle vs a jar you put a knife into.  Mustard lasts a very long time.  Tonight I actually used Salad dressing that had a "Best By" date of October 2012, and it tast ...


Mayo actually lasts really well because it's acidic which hinders bacteria growth.  So things like potato salad do fine sitting in the sun for a while at a picnic, or tuna salad sitting in a brown paper bag for 4 hours.
 
2013-07-16 12:47:09 AM  

cardex: hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.

But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?


Overuse use of disinfectants may be bad for our immune systems, but I don't think they really have any relation to antibiotic resistant bacteria.

It would be like you trying to build an immunity to being dipped in lava.
 
2013-07-16 12:49:57 AM  
Is there a sale on tin-foil hats or something. Jeebus
 
2013-07-16 12:53:37 AM  

Click Click D'oh: Meh.  I know all my meat is exactly what it's supposed to be.  100% dead deer.


So no worms, other parasites, bacteria, viruses in your dear meat?
 
2013-07-16 12:56:33 AM  

SquiggsIN: cptjeff: ArcadianRefugee: thisisyourbrainonFark: Yes, because how did humans ever manage before?

By dying at much younger ages due to a lack of medicine and sanitation?

Generally, the life expectancy numbers you're thinking of were lower because people died in childhood a lot more. Because kids and the elderly have weaker immune systems than adults. If you made it past 12, you had a pretty good chance at a nice long life. But a lot of people died at 3 or whatever, so the average gets dragged down to 45 or whatever.

Seriously, you have a farking immune system for a reason. Unless it's compromised in some way, the whole bubble boy thing will make you less healthy, not more.

I wish we could convince the overly panicky mothers who have been brainwashed into thinking they need every product from Clorox on standby 24/7 just in case their kid touches a germ.  There are a few very large megacorps that are responsible for the vast majority of over-sterilization products on the market today.


This is why I actually desanitize my hands, I try to touch has much bacteria and virus infected material as possible. Then I make sure to strongly shake hands with everyone I meet. When eating I make sure to touch common food and refrain from using tongs.  I split food with everyone I can.  I feel it is just my service to society.  Undoing all the over sanitizing people do that compromises their immune system.

/not even joking
//never gets sick
 
2013-07-16 12:57:20 AM  
we sell ice cream from a machine that gets cleaned but never sanitisec

God Is My Co-Pirate: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."


geesh, who cares about spray! I'd be more concerned about 5 million hands all over that produce before it comes to me. Not to mention that cross-contamination from salmonella and whatnot

blech.

I'm working at a fruitstand and people smell the fruit...  their farking nose touches the fruit! for the love of god that grosses me out.  Now someone is gonna buy fruit that your snotty nose was all over.  ughhhh

also all the fruit is picked by dirty hippies, even the organic stuff.

on the other hand we also sell soft icecream from a machine that is never sanitized, just cleaned with pure water. LOL
 
2013-07-16 01:00:38 AM  
Farnn
Mayo actually lasts really well because it's acidic loaded with emulsifiers which hinders bacteia growth

On a related note, making your own mayo is freaking delicious. And a bit horrifying in that no matter what you do, it breaks down in two days or less. WTF am I eating with my Hellman's?!

By the way, dark, damp, warm and slightly acidic are the ideal growing conditions for bacteria.

So things like potato salad do fine sitting in the sun for a while at a picnic, or tuna salad sitting in a brown paper bag for 4 hours.

I love me a good troll, but botulism is a very expensive trip to the hospital. Don't.
 
2013-07-16 01:00:47 AM  

megarian: litespeed74: Is there any place poop free???

Maybe, and hilariously, Uranus.


Thumbs up
 
2013-07-16 01:01:47 AM  
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2013-07-16 01:02:13 AM  
And now my post makes no sense. Thanks, admins. =P
 
2013-07-16 01:03:10 AM  
This is what Safeway does around here.
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I once had them ground up a roast into hamburger meat, and it came back a quarter pound lighter and a shiatload of fat mixed in.

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2013-07-16 01:06:36 AM  

TommyymmoT: cameroncrazy1984: People still go to supermarkets that don't have disinfectant wipes  right at the entrance?

I never realized they were there for that reason.
Makes sense I guess, so that all the Howie Mandels, and Adrian Monks of the world don't starve to death.

I have never had a problem with any of that stuff.
Many years ago, I supervised janitorial crews, and we used to clean toilets, garbage cans, sinks, whatever, without gloves, and none of us even got the sniffles.

The workers at the offices we cleaned however, were out sick all the time despite the fact that we cleaned and disinfected damn near everything, every night.

We used to even do the door knobs, push bars, banisters etc because that's what they wanted, and paid for.
These were state offices, and it was almost laughable watching the officer workers coming to work  wearing surgical masks during flu season, and using a pen to touch the elevator buttons.


I worked for a cleaning crew once that used the same dirty old rag on every surface. and I mean EVERY surface, countertops, tables, floors, inside of toilet bowls...
 
2013-07-16 01:06:46 AM  

Stoker: This is what Safeway does around here.
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I once had them ground up a roast into hamburger meat, and it came back a quarter pound lighter and a shiatload of fat mixed in.

[img827.imageshack.us image 500x347]


OMG.  That's about like the local Food City where I live.  They also put old hamburger meat inside fresh ground beef.  Will never buy meats from them again.
 
2013-07-16 01:08:59 AM  

Stoker: This is what Safeway does around here.
[imageshack.us image 603x505]

I once had them ground up a roast into hamburger meat, and it came back a quarter pound lighter and a shiatload of fat mixed in.

[img827.imageshack.us image 500x347]


http://www.amazon.com/Weston-Heavy-Manual-Tinned-Grinder/dp/B000BQSW 44 /
 
2013-07-16 01:09:13 AM  

taxandspend: angry_redhead: Dreamless: I used to work at a grocery store, so I'm really getting a kick out of some of these replies...

Uh, still reading the article.

I still work at a grocery store and while I'm also getting a kick, I'm kinda shaking my head too...

My favorite thing about working in a grocery store was that everyone presented themselves as professionals that are supposed to be able to know everything about the store, an image that is shattered as soon as a customer asks you how to eat a kumquat or starfruit. Because as a minimum wage courtesy clerk, I'm always filling up on the kumquats and starfruits.


Too true. I'm a cashier and I see some weird behaviours. We sell so many different things, kind of like a WM supercenter, but more food focused, not the other way around. People get really anal retentive about their clothes not touching the belt... So, they tried on something that some other person probably put on with sweaty armpits, but you don't want it touching the belt? Are you not going to wash it before you wear it? Just like when people biatch about me being careful about touching the produce. Not as in, 'be careful not to bruise the fruit' but more like, 'I don't want your hand touching it any more than it has to'. Cuz no one else has touched it in the produce section right?
 
2013-07-16 01:10:39 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: The My Little Pony Killer: Always wash your produce before putting it in your mouth. No exceptions.

/uses grocery carts from the store downstairs when going on dumpster runs
//no, they don't get wiped down afterwards

///wash your produce before you eat it, seriously

I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."


And you didn't gleefully explain to her that "Organic" means it was fertilized with some kind of shiat rather than chemicals? Shame on you, unless you just found it more amusing to laugh every time she bit into a shiatapple.......
 
2013-07-16 01:12:16 AM  

JesseL: cardex: hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.

But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?

Overuse use of disinfectants may be bad for our immune systems, but I don't think they really have any relation to antibiotic resistant bacteria.

It would be like you trying to build an immunity to being dipped in lava.


Read the bottles over the past few years they have been haveing to increase the active ingredients to make them affective. Purell had 62% alcohol the new purell advanced is at 68% to keep the same 99.9% kill rate.
Wet wipes(target store brand)have gone form .13 benzalkonium chloride to .3% between when I got my nipples priced and got a package to wipe the ring with last year and when I had I gauged out this month and had to buy a new container of them.
 
2013-07-16 01:12:40 AM  

The My Little Pony Killer: The grocery store is okay with this practice.


When I worked in a grocery store we used carts to drag the trash bags around, although we had a special rusted out cart for this task. Meanwhile, the carts in circulation are constantly getting food residue on them, and you don't see those flying through the cart wash at any point in their life. They will get cosmetically wiped if a kid vomits on them.

Remember, anyone can use your store, even smelly homeless people. Sometimes "normal" people will discard some fresh feces on the floor of the restroom, then track it around the store. Old people, who are probably washing at best 50% of the skin on their hands after taking a dump are handling your fresh fruit and veggies. As a cashier and bagger, I got a great look at your grandma and grandpa's dirty finger nails as they scrabbled for the courtesy pen to fill out their checks.
 
2013-07-16 01:13:01 AM  

fusillade762: Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.

I thought it was usually a combination of nitrogen and carbon dioxide?


Those will help to preserve it but won't give it the nice color. Link
 
2013-07-16 01:20:39 AM  

angry_redhead: People get really anal retentive about their clothes not touching the belt... So, they tried on something that some other person probably put on with sweaty armpits, but you don't want it touching the belt?


well, if it's the clothes I'm wearing I'm probably more afraid of getting snagged and sucked in.
If you sell groceries at your store, yeah there's all kind of nasty stain-generating things that could be all over that belt.  I never want anything to touch it directly.
 
2013-07-16 01:26:12 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Ivo Shandor: Gaddiel: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Crap, I like pickles on my burger. Care to elaborate?

Is it because of that guy who was fired for putting his dick in the pickle slicer?

Kids piss in the pickle jar. Never witnessed it but have heard from several sources. Also kids will put frozen patties on their feet and skate across the floor on them.
also kids will piss in oven cleaner. That one I did witness.

as for the coffe grinder I once saw a fat bas*ard gob a steady stream of loogies into the grinder. For like 20 damn minutes.

saw kids in the meat department slapping eachother with steaks. Shiat if I think back to my days as a teen working in grocery stores Im sure I could remember some other doozies. Hell I quit buger king over the oven cleaner thing.

Im all for shenanigans. But pulling a tyler durden on the food supply crosses a line to me.
mainly cause I love to eat.


One more time for those asking about the pickles. Have a read.
 
2013-07-16 01:29:36 AM  

Godscrack: [www.ci.temple-city.ca.us image 500x500]

Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.

That's what the fold down seat with the two legs holes up front is there for. That way 20 or 50 different babies can leave 'their mark' all over that seat and handle area. Ever seen store employees wiping them down?


FTFA: "Are the night janitors getting drunk on the job and mistaking the shopping carts for toilets? Actually, this, like so many other hazardous shopping experiences, is because of children. They have a habit of sticking their handseverywhere, and as such they tend to carry trace amounts of fecal matter -- among other things -- about their person at all times. "

Reading comprehension failure.
 
2013-07-16 01:39:39 AM  

serial_crusher: angry_redhead: People get really anal retentive about their clothes not touching the belt... So, they tried on something that some other person probably put on with sweaty armpits, but you don't want it touching the belt?

well, if it's the clothes I'm wearing I'm probably more afraid of getting snagged and sucked in.
If you sell groceries at your store, yeah there's all kind of nasty stain-generating things that could be all over that belt.  I never want anything to touch it directly.


Hmm, good point about the snags. Maybe it's because I'm actually a good cashier in that I'm really careful with always cleaning up the belt and making sure nothing will get ripped or snagged. Of course, that's also as much for my benefit - getting through an order as fast as possible helps us all out.

/Higher ring time is favourable, slower cashiers will get a talking to, especially if they're consistently slow
//Customers appreciate faster lanes
///Also apparently I need to smile like the village idiot while I'm going through the order...
////Slashies!!!
 
2013-07-16 01:40:11 AM  

JesseL: http://www.amazon.com/Weston-Heavy-Manual-Tinned-Grinder/dp/B000BQSW 44 /

-=-
Yes. I was looking at one at Costco. It's got a motor and everything.
imageshack.us
 
2013-07-16 01:42:39 AM  

cardex: JesseL: cardex: hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.

But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?

Overuse use of disinfectants may be bad for our immune systems, but I don't think they really have any relation to antibiotic resistant bacteria.

It would be like you trying to build an immunity to being dipped in lava.

Read the bottles over the past few years they have been haveing to increase the active ingredients to make them affective. Purell had 62% alcohol the new purell advanced is at 68% to keep the same 99.9% kill rate.
Wet wipes(target store brand)have gone form .13 benzalkonium chloride to .3% between when I got my nipples priced and got a package to wipe the ring with last year and when I had I gauged out this month and had to buy a new container of them.


Well, how much were they?
 
2013-07-16 01:55:34 AM  

Equilibrist: Good to see CRACKED back to 2 pages for a 5 item story.


Good to see people still so farkin lazy they feel the need to post and complain about clicking their mouse.

Once.
 
2013-07-16 01:56:37 AM  

Godscrack: Blaming janitors for poop on carts? No. Try babies.

That's what the fold down seat with the two legs holes up front is there for. That way 20 or 50 different babies can leave 'their mark' all over that seat and handle area. Ever seen store employees wiping them down?


There's no poop on carts, the junk science study only looked for fecal coliform bacteria on the carts, guess what? That bacteria is found on everything on Earth. Even brand new in the package toothbrushes. Check out the myth busters on this topic.
 
2013-07-16 01:57:55 AM  
ChuDogg: SquiggsIN: cptjeff: ArcadianRefugee: thisisyourbrainonFark: Yes, because how did humans ever manage before?

By dying at much younger ages due to a lack of medicine and sanitation?

Generally, the life expectancy numbers you're thinking of were lower because people died in childhood a lot more. Because kids and the elderly have weaker immune systems than adults. If you made it past 12, you had a pretty good chance at a nice long life. But a lot of people died at 3 or whatever, so the average gets dragged down to 45 or whatever.

Seriously, you have a farking immune system for a reason. Unless it's compromised in some way, the whole bubble boy thing will make you less healthy, not more.

I wish we could convince the overly panicky mothers who have been brainwashed into thinking they need every product from Clorox on standby 24/7 just in case their kid touches a germ. There are a few very large megacorps that are responsible for the vast majority of over-sterilization products on the market today.

This is why I actually desanitize my hands, I try to touch has much bacteria and virus infected material as possible. Then I make sure to strongly shake hands with everyone I meet. When eating I make sure to touch common food and refrain from using tongs. I split food with everyone I can. I feel it is just my service to society. Undoing all the over sanitizing people do that compromises their immune system.

/not even joking
//never gets sick


Thank you so much for your truly noble service, I'll remember the idiots like you who do stuff like this the next time I get an antibiotic-resistant infection courtesy of the autoimmune disease I get to deal with.

/fark you
//seriously
 
2013-07-16 02:14:55 AM  

LiberalConservative: eraser8: I'm surprised that people are unaware of #5.

First thing I do when I come home from the market?  Wash my hands.

By the time you wash your hands you have already transferred that poop to your keys, car, home doorhandles, and sink taps.
You can not escape the poop.


But, you can be sensible, and always wash your hands just before eating. IMO, if you only do one thing, do that.
 
2013-07-16 02:19:33 AM  
breadprincess
Thank you so much for your truly noble service, I'll remember the idiots like you who do stuff like this the next time I get an antibiotic-resistant infection courtesy of the autoimmune disease I get to deal with.

Oh, well then that wouldn't be his fault. He's purposely breeding the antibiotic-unresistant germs to help out people like you.

No, your problem's the people who find the need to buy Purell in bulk.
 
2013-07-16 02:24:47 AM  

MusicMakeMyHeadPound: breadprincess
Thank you so much for your truly noble service, I'll remember the idiots like you who do stuff like this the next time I get an antibiotic-resistant infection courtesy of the autoimmune disease I get to deal with.

Oh, well then that wouldn't be his fault. He's purposely breeding the antibiotic-unresistant germs to help out people like you.

No, your problem's the people who find the need to buy Purell in bulk.


Agreed
 
2013-07-16 02:28:06 AM  

God Is My Co-Pirate: I had an idiot coworker who told me she never washed her produced "because I buy organic, so it doesn't need washing."


Darwin will take care of that one.

/I'm not even sure washing would be enough for organic. You should tell her to dip it in bleach, too, just to be sure.
 
2013-07-16 02:49:49 AM  

Click Click D'oh: Meh.  I know all my meat is exactly what it's supposed to be.  100% dead deer.


Oh, man... Venison is just so darn gooooood...  My dad likes to hunt, and I used to get enough meat to freeze and eat all year round, but then he moved. I miss the deer meat more than my dad, if I'm honest.
 
2013-07-16 02:53:43 AM  
Anywhere Kids Go, Everything Is Covered In Shiat. According To Cracked.
 
2013-07-16 02:56:11 AM  

cardex: JesseL: cardex: hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.

But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?

Overuse use of disinfectants may be bad for our immune systems, but I don't think they really have any relation to antibiotic resistant bacteria.

It would be like you trying to build an immunity to being dipped in lava.

Read the bottles over the past few years they have been haveing to increase the active ingredients to make them affective. Purell had 62% alcohol the new purell advanced is at 68% to keep the same 99.9% kill rate.
Wet wipes(target store brand)have gone form .13 benzalkonium chloride to .3% between when I got my nipples priced and got a package to wipe the ring with last year and when I had I gauged out this month and had to buy a new container of them.


how Much Do Nipples Go For These Days?
 
2013-07-16 03:01:51 AM  

JesseL: Stoker: This is what Safeway does around here.
[imageshack.us image 603x505]

I once had them ground up a roast into hamburger meat, and it came back a quarter pound lighter and a shiatload of fat mixed in.

[img827.imageshack.us image 500x347]

http://www.amazon.com/Weston-Heavy-Manual-Tinned-Grinder/dp/B000BQSW 44 /


How do you keep those things clean?
 
2013-07-16 04:04:24 AM  
#5. There Is Poop on the Shopping Carts

Around here, probably a bit of poop.  Where I work they're power washed a couple of times a year.  We have a crop of pre-wealthy soccer/helicopter babies and mommy will burn through the container of sanitary wipes pretty damn fast.

#4. They Change Expiration Dates (and It's Usually Legal)

I've seen them do that for some hard cheeses but otherwise my store/company is pretty aggressive about pulling items a day before they're out of code.  That being said they do seem to make dates up as they go along.  For instance, our store-warmed muffins just changed from a 3 day to a week long code.  I don't think they magically changed the muffin supplier or invented a new ingredient to keep them fresher longer, they just changed it.

I've detected a slide with date codes lately though in one department (not mine)...  It seems to be a combination of aggressive sales projections leading to gross over-allocation or over-ordering...yet on the other end the pressure to make your numbers and keep the shrink down.  The talking heads think it's cool to send along an extra pile of potato salad and when it's not gone by the right date, that's $$ into the trash and the department manager gets called out on the excessive waste, even if she didn't have any control over whether it came into the store or not.
In my department they send us far too much crap too, but we have the luxury of a huge freezer so we can get to it when we get to it.
We can get credit on the product if we sample it out...works great in my corner, but there's no really safe way in the store to sample out 50 lbs of extra cold salads.  So it's either the trash or she fudges the dates.  Yeah..it's not cool. 


#3. Food Gets Recycled

 We're trained to do a little 'repurposing' at the store level but yeah I've never seen them send shiat back to the manufacturer for that.  Our old food goes to shelters, food kitchens or the recycle bins.

#2. The Meat Might Be Wearing a Disguise

Doesn't sound legit to me but I've also bought meat at C-Town that was a little gamier than it ought to be.

#1. The Health Inspection System Is, Let's Say, Rather Lax

Our own Mister Clean comes through at random and means business.  In my department, at least, we've had sterner results from the inhouse inspector than we've gotten from the state.  Now and then someone slips through the cracks in other locations, and everybody gets a frantic reminder to follow proper sanitation procedures.

The biggest danger where I am seems to be some of my mouthbreathing co-workers.  We have an idiot who'll put on gloves to sample...then proceeds to stuff her own face.  The chick in produce who goes into the bathroom stall and just drops her apron into a pile on the floor.  The dim bulb who thinks it's ok to run a salami under the sanitizer when it hits the ground.  We used to have a very-special-needs bagger who would pee herself and continue to bag up your fresh veggies.
And don't forget precious little Timmy who wants to put his (obviously fecally coated) paws all over every cookie in the bucket and mom sees no problem with that.
 
2013-07-16 04:43:04 AM  

codergirl42: Anywhere Kids Go, Everything Is Covered In Shiat. According To Cracked.


In both of your posts you capitalized each word. I can't help but be curious why.
 
2013-07-16 04:49:40 AM  

JesseL: cardex: hlehmann: Godscrack: [www.tommackieracing.com image 337x450]

I'm just glad most supermarkets have these at the door.

You wouldn't get sick all the time if you didn't constantly use those damn wipes.  You don't build immunity by living in a sterile bubble.

But without the wipes and hand sanatiser how are we going to make the next batch of drug resistant impossable to kill flesh earthing bacteria ?

Overuse use of disinfectants may be bad for our immune systems, but I don't think they really have any relation to antibiotic resistant bacteria.

It would be like you trying to build an immunity to being dipped in lava.


No, it has a pretty big effect.  The stuff that can kill absolutely all the bacteria on a surface is not stuff you can put on your skin without major chemical burns, so unless the stuff you're using is strong enough to literally strip the skin off your hands, it's not killing everything.  Hydrogen peroxide, for instance, at a concentration high enough to kill every last bacteria on a surface also sets fire to any organic material it touches.  Other antibacterials have to rely on various other biological pathways, like binding to certain molecules and blocking them from use, or massively changing the osmotic pressure, or what have you.

Consider this:  These aren't sexual reproducers, so it only takes one to build an entire army, so it only takes one which develops any sort of resistance to whatever you're using, even a mild resistance that just knocks 0.5% off the death rate, to leave behind a large amount which can then grow which are more likely to have little variabilities that make some of them more resistant.  And, Since they reproduce faster than rabbits, the odds of just having just 1 with resistance is miniscule, because once one develops it, then it's gonna be producing a bunch more in short order.

As an example, in prime temperature with plenty of food and no competition and plenty of space to grow, it would take a single E. Coli bacteria about 19 hours to replicate itself into a total mass about equal to the average human.  (The math on that:  A single E. Coli weighs about 665 femtograms.  1 * 10^17 * 665fg ~= 70kg.  Doubles itself every 20 minutes giving an exponential growth coefficient of 0.03465 from the equation 2 = 1e^(x*20).  End population of 1 * 10^17 starting with a single bacterium gives the equation 1 * 10^17 = 1e^(0.03465*t).  Natural log of 1 * 10^17 is ~39.143, giving the equation 39.143 = 0.03465*t, 39.143 / 0.03465 = t ~= 1129 minutes ~= 18.8 hours.  Though of course, earlier generations will stop exponentially growing at some point in time, might add a few hours onto it)

Not only that, but you just killed off vast swaths of your natural fauna that would normally be keeping the more dangerous stuff in check, and most of the harmful bacteria that don't have a resistance that would normally be competing with the ones that do.
 
2013-07-16 05:15:39 AM  

JesseL: JohnnyRebel88: Relatively Obscure: I don't care about most of these, at a glance.  Mislabeling food as other food, though, is not okay.

"Reconditioning Food Programs" that are allowed by the FDA?  Not cool.

Why not? Is it causing any problems?

How much food is it okay to waste because it sounds yucky?


I just believe that this would not have the same nutritional value as it once did buyer should have the right to know.  Do you not think that the public should be aware that it went through such a program, and that if not, the consumer is being mislead into thinking that they are buying "fresh food"?  Maybe the FDA could put a sticker on these items so the consumer would be aware of this practice, and also believe that it should be sold at a cheaper price.  Why should the consumer be responsible for their spillage?
 
2013-07-16 06:18:50 AM  

Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.


Actually they fill the package with nitrogen.
 
2013-07-16 06:27:36 AM  

the_rhino: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Why? Was there some sort of "pickle incident"that we all should be aware of?


Is there a pickle farker at every fast food place?
 
2013-07-16 06:37:53 AM  

the_rhino: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Why? Was there some sort of "pickle incident"that we all should be aware of?


Just so long as my LuckyCharms are safe...
 
2013-07-16 07:12:54 AM  
I worked with a girl whose previous job was re-packaging expired meat (large chain in Canada). If it smelled OK, she re-packaged it. From what she saw, she became a vegetarian. Also knew a guy who worked in an ice-cream plant. He said to never buy the chocolate, as the dark color could hide anything.
 
2013-07-16 07:50:21 AM  
Some info about how this stuff can relate to a Super Target.

#5 Possible, but you would need to lick it clean to find some. Keep in mind that a) they can be left out in the rain a lot, and b) if there is something on it you can see, guest will prolly not use it and roll it aside for a new cart. Also WE generally don't want to touch it if it has been touched by poop or puke either. In my store if we come across one that has any such bodily fluid contact, we damage it out and send it to the receiving area where it will get pressure washed the next day. That said, they generally only get pressure washed by an outside co. like twice a year. Better then you will see at most other places.

#4 NEVER at target. Damaging items out because they are outdated or open is a no questions asked policy making it very easy for us to throw damaged and out of date stuff with zero repercussions. And nothing is done outside of target either, all food is thrown out or donated, never shipped back to the warehouse.

#3 See #4, nothing is ever sent back. If stuff goes bad at the warehouse, who knows,

#2 All our meat is sent in from outside warehouses.. nothing really fishy, if there was non beef stuff in it, it would be a larger scale issue beyond target.

#1 This may be a regional thing, but target has both state inspectors and a third party called Sertec that visits almost every month and never announces their visits. Since scores are a huge deal in the company to compare against other stores, Sertech safety scores are a big deal. It is also a score taken into account the team lead who manages the area when review time comes around.
 
2013-07-16 07:54:36 AM  

Stoker: This is what Safeway does around here.
[imageshack.us image 603x505]


That brown color? That's what color meat is supposed to be if it's not treated with something to turn it bright red.

And really, the takeaway from Number 5 is that babies/children are covered in shiat, so for all those parents freaking out about the grocery carts, why bother? You're just going to kiss your kid's shiat covered hand anyway.
 
2013-07-16 07:57:36 AM  

PainInTheASP: And Buffy never bothered to wipe the card down afterwards. At the end of the night you could always tell which cart in the cart corral was hers.


The one covered with ashes from all the staked vampires?
 
2013-07-16 08:00:01 AM  

heili skrimsli: That brown color? That's what color meat is supposed to be if it's not treated with something to turn it bright red


That would be blood. Meat is injected with additional cows blood to redden it up. Unfortunately everyone does this so no one ever noticed what it is supposed to look like. I guess if it does not kill me, I'll accept it. It actually makes it hard to determine if discolored meat is discolored because it is bad (way before expire date) or just not properly spruced up.
 
2013-07-16 08:01:39 AM  

JeffMD: heili skrimsli: That brown color? That's what color meat is supposed to be if it's not treated with something to turn it bright red

That would be blood. Meat is injected with additional cows blood to redden it up. Unfortunately everyone does this so no one ever noticed what it is supposed to look like. I guess if it does not kill me, I'll accept it. It actually makes it hard to determine if discolored meat is discolored because it is bad (way before expire date) or just not properly spruced up.


I buy dry aged steaks that aren't treated. But no, it's not blood. Blood turns brown over time when exposed to air.
 
2013-07-16 08:24:41 AM  
And yet we don't all die from our Ecoli Staff infections and expired recycled meat products. It's almost like we develop healthy immune systems from being exposed to shiat.
 
2013-07-16 08:28:37 AM  

redhook: the_rhino: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Why? Was there some sort of "pickle incident"that we all should be aware of?

Is there a pickle farker at every fast food place?


We preferred to jack off into the mayonnaise when I worked at Jack In The Box.
 
2013-07-16 08:46:51 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

 you get what you deserve.
 
2013-07-16 08:55:56 AM  
e coli and salmonella are killed with heat. Buy the discounted meat, cook to an internal temperature of 160, and you're good.

As a food manufacturing quality manager who has created multiple food safety programs, I can honestly say that food manufactured today is safer than food manufactured a decade ago. It's not the big companies you should worry about, it's the smaller ones who don't have the funds or current knowledge of food safety requirements that should make you wary.

Oh, and mold won't kill you (most food related molds at least). Repasturizing (which is what they were doing with the applesauce) happens all the time. Look no further than the barbecue sauce, ketchup, or steak sauce in your refrigerator door. As long as you heat it to the proper temperature and document it, you can do that add often as you like as long as it doesn't impact the flavor.
 
2013-07-16 09:10:41 AM  
It's almost like we don't live in a perfectly antiseptic world.
 
2013-07-16 09:20:09 AM  

teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.


Pickles?
 
2013-07-16 09:20:49 AM  

Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.


If it's caused by treating the meat with carbon monoxide, then that means it's safer for human consumption than anything short of irradiated pre-packaged meats. Carbon monoxide is the grim reaper of aerobic microbes, literally strangling them molecule by molecule to steal their oxygen ions, leaving only anaerobic bacteria as the survivors (and they were probably killed when the meat was exposed to oxygen during processing). Plus, it's safe to eat carbon monoxide, unlike chlorine and pretty much any other disinfectant capable of significantly discouraging rot (just don't huff the package unless you're actually trying become An Hero to lawsuit-happy foodies).

/actually I doubt this is true
//too expensive to generate and contain a sufficient percentage of gaseous carbon monoxide molecules
///not to mention all the lawsuits they'd have to settle when the teen geniuses working behind the counter get suicidally creative
 
2013-07-16 09:27:26 AM  

fusillade762: Ivo Shandor: #6 - That nice red color on the meat comes from treating it with carbon monoxide. It's not a sign of freshness.

I thought it was usually a combination of nitrogen and carbon dioxide?


It's an absence of oxygen. Meat discoloration is mostly just oxidation, and not a sign of spoilage but people associate the color with freshness.
 
2013-07-16 09:34:58 AM  
So, you ever go into a grocery store & see the floors shining like a mirror?

I used to have a job making the floors look like that. We had about 100 employees. Did many 100's of stores. Lots of different companies. Going into grocery stores in the middle of the night, you notice a couple things.

Every single one pulls all their stock out of the back room (including the frozen & refrigerated stuff) at the beginning of the stockers shift. To sit in the middle of the aisle while they finish unloading the rest of the pallets, then start stocking it. Usually sits there 4-6 hours before it gets put into the freezer.

Delis & meat depts hose down their floors every night. The water from the floor splashes all over everything in the room. Counters, slicers, scales, everything.

We use a high speed buffer to get that nice finish. They make a cloud of dust (Old wax. dust & dirt). All over the produce. And all over those bags of "artisan" bread that have the end open so the loaves can breathe.

Decided I needed benefits, so I got a job as a school custodian. My experience + 4 hours of training. About the 3rd thing the trainer shows me is they use the same scrub brush /  sanitizer bucket to clean the toilets, the urinals, the sinks & the drinking fountains. I won't. I use a spray bottle of sanitizer & paper towels on the sinks & drinking fountains. See all my co-workers do it the "official" way, all the time...
 
2013-07-16 11:26:30 AM  

the_rhino: teenage mutant ninja rapist: For god sakes never use the coffee grinder. Trust me on that one. Also if you enjoy fast food then never ever get pickles on anything.

Why? Was there some sort of "pickle incident"that we all should be aware of?


OMG Why would you summon the "pickle incident"?!
 
2013-07-16 12:59:56 PM  
 
2013-07-17 11:22:55 AM  
It's a scare article done for a ratings grab.  If the things mentioned in that article were really that bad, we would hear about people getting sick from it more often.
 
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