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2013-07-15 08:51:23 PM
Can somebody please explain how Radio Shack still exists? Onion article aside, how does it survive? Are Tandy computers some kind of deep Internet craze? Are teen bouncing around to Skrillex while they play with their 100 in 1's?

Jesus, I would occasionally buy an iced tea at Borders while I was reading a few hundred bucks worth of graphic novel but I haven't been responsible for a nickel being dropped at Radio Shack since 1984.
 
2013-07-15 09:05:33 PM
So that whole, "Just call us The Shack" thing didn't work out?

Wall_of_Doodoo: Can somebody please explain how Radio Shack still exists? Onion article aside, how does it survive? Are Tandy computers some kind of deep Internet craze? Are teen bouncing around to Skrillex while they play with their 100 in 1's?


They do cell phones now which can keep the store open singlehandedly. Then while you're there you notice things that you don't see in regular electronics stores.
 
2013-07-15 09:18:39 PM

jaylectricity: So that whole, "Just call us The Shack" thing didn't work out?

Wall_of_Doodoo: Can somebody please explain how Radio Shack still exists? Onion article aside, how does it survive? Are Tandy computers some kind of deep Internet craze? Are teen bouncing around to Skrillex while they play with their 100 in 1's?

They do cell phones now which can keep the store open singlehandedly. Then while you're there you notice things that you don't see in regular electronics stores.


OK, all snark aside, I literally had no friggin idea, thanks. Fifteen years ago Radio Shack was a destination of last resort if you needed whatever 1990s item we needed in the 1990s.

I must say though, as a youth I had a deep lust for a couple of their RC cars.
 
2013-07-15 09:25:53 PM
I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.
 
2013-07-15 09:42:21 PM

Lsherm: I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.


Dude, CSB. Old guy info wise and such.
 
2013-07-15 10:10:52 PM
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2013-07-15 10:13:26 PM

Lsherm: I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.


If they would have had it you'll be waiting in line for a hour , because the guy in front of you want to learn the ToS on a new cellphone
 
2013-07-15 10:16:21 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: OK, all snark aside, I literally had no friggin idea, thanks. Fifteen years ago Radio Shack was a destination of last resort if you needed whatever 1990s item we needed in the 1990s.

I must say though, as a youth I had a deep lust for a couple of their RC cars.


Yeah, that was when I was introduced to Radio Shack as well. Every time my mom brought me to the mall (until I could drive myself) I would salivate over the R/C cars. I'd head over to the stereo equipment and see if I could find something for cheap that would give me a better stereo at home. I also used them for various RCA/headphone type cables and stuff like that.
 
2013-07-15 10:17:48 PM

Lsherm: I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.


When I was doing some electronics hobby work about a year ago, I looked into getting the components at Radio Shack. It was obscene how much they charged. I was looking at $100 for just the components I needed. I ended up ordering about 10 times the components I needed for about $30. A 10 pack of resistors for $.23, yeah I'll take 20 of them in various ohms.

I will admit I did end up buying a 555 timer at Radio Shack for something like $2.50 because the burned up the dozen I order for around $.30 a piece.
 
2013-07-15 10:18:17 PM
Will I still have to give up my name and address when buying a pack of batteries in cash?
 
2013-07-15 10:18:25 PM
Take the money they'd spend on re-branding thousands of stores and put it into hiring competent sales people.
 
2013-07-15 10:20:15 PM
I'n still upset they closed tech america..
 
2013-07-15 10:22:08 PM
Yeah, I still don't want to buy a cell phone plan.
 
2013-07-15 10:22:26 PM
I don't give a fark about their logo or how they redecorate the store. They're not getting another dime from me until they bring back the Battery of the Month Club.
 
2013-07-15 10:27:05 PM

max_pooper: Lsherm: I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.

When I was doing some electronics hobby work about a year ago, I looked into getting the components at Radio Shack. It was obscene how much they charged. I was looking at $100 for just the components I needed. I ended up ordering about 10 times the components I needed for about $30. A 10 pack of resistors for $.23, yeah I'll take 20 of them in various ohms.

I will admit I did end up buying a 555 timer at Radio Shack for something like $2.50 because the burned up the dozen I order for around $.30 a piece.


I got a ton of free electrical components about 10 years ago.  I attended a technical college and pilfered components from the electrical labs and from fellow students when their backs were turned.

I also destroyed several thousand components.  In the labs, I had a classmate who I liked to fark with.  When he'd head to the restroom, I would do things like swap VCC and ground when we were in our digital circuits class.  In DC class I would crank up the voltage and see if anything would smoke or catch fire, or just swap components and see if he could figure out why his measurements were off.  In our power supplies class, he carved into my desk that I was a biotech, I messed with the wiring in his power supply and burned that f*cker up.  The lab instructor had a lecture about how when you crave insults into the desks, spelling counts and biotech isn't an insult.
 
2013-07-15 10:27:32 PM
This is not a repeat from 1995, 2000, 2005
 
2013-07-15 10:32:51 PM

Ivo Shandor: Battery of the Month Club.


Back in the early 80s I worked at RS in a mall while going to college.

The first of the month INVARIABLY began with farking loser "customers" tapping on the store doors with their car keys, louder and LOUDER and LOUDER,  expecting us to open 45 minutes early so they could come in and get their free farking batteries.

Half of them would biatch because we wouldn't honor the 3 inch thick stack of battery cards in their slimy hands, and the other half would just biatch about how the batteries didn't last worth a shiat.

If I personally had to pick 5000 people who should be pushed feet-first into the world's slowest meat grinder, it would be Battery Card farks.
 
2013-07-15 10:34:26 PM
Let me guess... the redesigned stores will sell only cell phones and Beats headphones?

The last time I went to Radio Shack and asked for a PS/2 to USB adapter and they pointed me to the video game section, I figured out quickly that it was not the old store any more.
 
2013-07-15 10:36:55 PM
Not sure if this is rearranging the deck chairs on the Titanic, or just good old fashioned polishing a turd.
 
2013-07-15 10:40:53 PM
Also, the decline of the traditional Radio Shack stores is just a microcosm of the fact that society in general is getting dumber by the hour..

People have less of an idea now how to change a lightbulb, let alone soldering a new 9 volt battery terminal in their garage door opener.
 
2013-07-15 10:49:32 PM

jaylectricity: They do cell phones now which can keep the store open singlehandedly. Then while you're there you notice things that you don't see in regular electronics stores.


It's apparently true.  There are places doing well doing nothing but.  But, the *how* of that still mystifies me.

In my general area, there's a cellphone vendor (counting company stores, independents, BBY, RSes, Target, WMT... but not even counting the dollar stores, groceries, and gas stations where you can buy prepaid phones) for every 3,000 people over 15.  At least some phones get bought online, too (I always have bought online).

My best guess is that the mean vendor sells 4 phones a day.  BBY and the company stores do substantially better than that.  If the run-of-the-mill RatShack sells even two phones a day... I'd have to figure they're doing well for themselves.

I know there are substantial kickbacks from the networks (why there should be such large kickbacks in such a small oligopoly of carriers... ??).  Even if they were getting several hundred dollars per phone, that seems hard to justify several full-time-equivalent jobs, paying the rent, keeping the lights on, etc.
 
2013-07-15 10:51:11 PM

Great Janitor: Will I still have to give up my name and address when buying a pack of batteries in cash?


I always told them my name was Mr. Cash and they did not need to know my address.
 
2013-07-15 10:52:08 PM

Lawnchair: Even if they were getting several hundred dollars per phone, that seems hard to justify several full-time-equivalent jobs, paying the rent, keeping the lights on, etc.


Back in the day, all the pegboard shiat (fuses, components, patch cords, project boxes, etc) averaged 70-80% markup.  Granted, you had to move a ton of shiat at $0.60 a pack, but it added up quickly!!
 
2013-07-15 10:53:38 PM
They really screwed up by not selling computer accessories.
 
2013-07-15 10:58:49 PM

markie_farkie: Lawnchair: Even if they were getting several hundred dollars per phone, that seems hard to justify several full-time-equivalent jobs, paying the rent, keeping the lights on, etc.

Back in the day, all the pegboard shiat (fuses, components, patch cords, project boxes, etc) averaged 70-80% markup.  Granted, you had to move a ton of shiat at $0.60 a pack, but it added up quickly!!


Damn, you're going HARDCORE nerd nostalgia. I don't envy your destressed denim vectek stage. Dance monkey, dance.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:55 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Damn, you're going HARDCORE nerd nostalgia. I don't envy your destressed denim vectek stage. Dance monkey, dance.


Keep your filthy farking hands off my tube tester, pal!
 
2013-07-15 11:11:07 PM
Worked at rack shack 15 years ago, big kick, etc...

We were pushed HARD to sell their shiatty Compaqs. Then came cell phones. The scanners, diodes, and resistors started collecting dust and all the people with the knowledge and skill set to sell that stuff retired or went elsewhere. That was my last big corporate gig. Never again.
 
2013-07-15 11:14:46 PM

markie_farkie: Wall_of_Doodoo: Damn, you're going HARDCORE nerd nostalgia. I don't envy your destressed denim vectek stage. Dance monkey, dance.

Keep your filthy farking hands off my tube tester, pal!


Centifuge or mole rules?

7% or scrape Down clock?
 
2013-07-15 11:25:28 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Centifuge or mole rules?


No, this tube:

aetherforce.com
 
2013-07-15 11:26:01 PM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Can somebody please explain how Radio Shack still exists? Onion article aside, how does it survive? Are Tandy computers some kind of deep Internet craze? Are teen bouncing around to Skrillex while they play with their 100 in 1's?

Jesus, I would occasionally buy an iced tea at Borders while I was reading a few hundred bucks worth of graphic novel but I haven't been responsible for a nickel being dropped at Radio Shack since 1984.


The past few times I've been in they didn't have what I needed (SATA cable and a solderable replacement power jack) and I had to order from Amazon or Monoprice or Newegg.
 
2013-07-15 11:30:20 PM
My town had a Radio Shack that was also a real electronics parts store. Transistors, chips, capacitors, tools... you could set up a nice electronics workshop with quality tools and supplies purchased from that store. It was large, too.

Then the owner died. The kids decided to liquidate the store and close it.

Now we have a new Radio Shack, a vapid shoebox store in a strip mall, hawking cell phones and cheapo R/C toys.

Sigh.... Radio Shack showed signs of revival when they were selling enthusiast PC components, but that got derailed when it didn't take off as expected (who else here knew they were selling things like liquid cooling systems and performance parts for a year or so?)
 
2013-07-15 11:32:10 PM

Rivetman1.0: Great Janitor: Will I still have to give up my name and address when buying a pack of batteries in cash?

I always told them my name was Mr. Cash and they did not need to know my address.


One time I gave them the address of the store and their own phone number.
The guy only caught on when he was almost done entering the phone number and he just glared at me.
 
2013-07-15 11:32:33 PM
looks like a re-arranging of chairs on the Titanic.

if Radioshack doesn't make positive cash flow this holiday season (it didn't last year), it will be the end.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1000142412788732469490457860209192442 6 154.html
 
2013-07-15 11:37:54 PM

Lsherm: I lament the demise of Radio Shack, but it's indicative of the stupidity and lack of manufacturing talent in the US as a whole.  I have a Heathkit stereo receiver that I built with my father in the early 70's, and it quit working about a year ago.  I had been going through the build manual and found two bad resistors and once capacitor on the mainboard, so I went to Radio Shack about six months ago to get replacements.  They didn't carry any.  I ended up ebaying the parts from China.

Five years ago the ballast that fired my Phillips first generation plasma went bad.  Back then I could get two of the capacitors from Radio Shack to fix it, but I had to order a resistor panel from a supplier in China.

I can appreciate that times change, but even back in the day that's the kind of thing Radio Shack was known for.  It's why it existed.  But since no one in America is repairing electronics at all, much less building them, they're farked.  They were great small specialty shops for electronics aficionados.  They are a terrible cell phone sales front.

Of course, Heathkit shiat the bed years ago and never recovered, so this is all to be expected.  Just throw it out when it quits working and buy a new one.


I'm kind of surprised they haven't pushed to get an early entry into Maker stuff, Raspberry Pis, Arduino, and maybe even 3D printing by hosting classes and activities (think Home Depot type seminars).  The products and customers are out there and it would be a very logical evolutionary step for RadioShack to take.  People didn't turn away from the hobbies RadioShack supported...the hobbies have just advanced beyond what they were able to keep pace with.

(To be fair, they apparently do sell some of the aforementioned stuff according to the website, but the bulk of attention is still focused on consumer electronics and cellphones, which puts them in competition with everyone else).
 
2013-07-15 11:38:51 PM
In the early 1970's I won a ten-band portable shortwave radio from the Radio Shack booth at the California State Fair. That thing was built like a tank and it worked flawlessly (even after flying off the top of a car) until about five years ago. I remember every once in awhile picking up mobile phone conversations (waaay before cell technology) on one specific frequency, and just listening in on random strangers' conversations. I don't think it ever occurred to either caller that their conversations were out on the radio waves.

I miss Incredible Universe, it was the last halfway decent idea Radio Shack had.
 
2013-07-15 11:45:44 PM

The correct answer is...: In the early 1970's I won a ten-band portable shortwave radio from the Radio Shack booth at the California State Fair. That thing was built like a tank and it worked flawlessly (even after flying off the top of a car) until about five years ago. I remember every once in awhile picking up mobile phone conversations (waaay before cell technology) on one specific frequency, and just listening in on random strangers' conversations. I don't think it ever occurred to either caller that their conversations were out on the radio waves.

I miss Incredible Universe, it was the last halfway decent idea Radio Shack had.


Damn nubian, damn.
 
2013-07-15 11:48:23 PM

The correct answer is...: Incredible Universe


Incredible Inconvenience, as they were known here in Dallas..  The one close to my old house was a PITA, they would corral you at the front door before you even set foot inside, and demand your name, address, zip code, and phone number..

Pretty shiatty business model..
 
2013-07-15 11:53:14 PM

Nuclear Monk: I'm kind of surprised they haven't pushed to get an early entry into Maker stuff, Raspberry Pis, Arduino, and maybe even 3D printing by hosting classes and activities (think Home Depot type seminars). The products and customers are out there and it would be a very logical evolutionary step for RadioShack to take. People didn't turn away from the hobbies RadioShack supported...the hobbies have just advanced beyond what they were able to keep pace with.

(To be fair, they apparently do sell some of the aforementioned stuff according to the website, but the bulk of attention is still focused on consumer electronics and cellphones, which puts them in competition with everyone else).


I was pretty shocked to find arduino stuff on the shelf at a RadioShack.  However the employees were absolutely useless unless I wanted an iWhatever accessory or cell phone plan.
 
2013-07-16 12:01:09 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: markie_farkie: Wall_of_Doodoo: Damn, you're going HARDCORE nerd nostalgia. I don't envy your destressed denim vectek stage. Dance monkey, dance.

Keep your filthy farking hands off my tube tester, pal!

Centifuge or mole rules?

7% or scrape Down clock?


dilbert.com
 
2013-07-16 12:04:48 AM

Wall_of_Doodoo: Can somebody please explain how Radio Shack still exists? Onion article aside, how does it survive? Are Tandy computers some kind of deep Internet craze? Are teen bouncing around to Skrillex while they play with their 100 in 1's?

Jesus, I would occasionally buy an iced tea at Borders while I was reading a few hundred bucks worth of graphic novel but I haven't been responsible for a nickel being dropped at Radio Shack since 1984.


Remember when Walter White opened a car wash to launder the money he made from cooking meth? That pretty much explains why Radio Shacks still exist.
 
2013-07-16 12:08:53 AM
I think that while they sell crappy phones, Dish TV and overpriced stereo components, they should keep pushing the Maker- related arduino stuff and 3-d printers; the audience for that is slowly building. It IS the future.

/Remembers when RS sold Trash-80's and about 50 different kinds of radio, including stuffed animals with AM radios in them.
 
2013-07-16 12:12:04 AM
They apparently have deals with cell phone carriers where they pay cash upfront ($600 or so) for the smart phones, instead of getting them on credit like other places. In return they get 5% of that customer's bill as long as they stay with that carrier.
That means past the 2 year contract.
How many people have $100 month or more cell phone plans? Like family plans?
You can go to a Radio Shack once every two years but they've been making money off you even if you never buy anything.

There are apparently some top stores that sell a ton of cell phones and plans because they have decent deals and nothing else is closer. Those top stores carry the weight for the rest of the non-performers. They are supposed to be franchises, but many are corporate owned stores.

Everything in the store is there only to get you in the store so they can try to upsell you a new phone and plan.
 
2013-07-16 12:17:04 AM
Went into Radio Shack to buy a pair of SkullCandy cheap headphones. The cord isn't even the same quality as the cord on the ones I buy from Amazon, the cord is more a thin ribbon. Then the cashier asked if I wanted to buy insurance on $15 headphones.

To be fair, BestBuy also pushes insurance on everything and asks for your telephone number. It's just less annoying to order online so I can avoid going to either store.
 
2013-07-16 12:23:02 AM

Johnson: Everything in the store is there only to get you in the store so they can try to upsell you a new phone and plan.


Not just them, but the cell phone section in your local Target store is run by Radio Shack.
 
2013-07-16 12:36:42 AM
Another fine example of how they're doomed:

Back in the 80s and well into the 90s, new stores were being opened every hour, sometimes less than 2 blocks from another existing store.  The district manager would then berate the original store manager (in some cases who had been there for 10-15 years with continual sales growth) like he was some kind of idiot incapable of running a business, despite the fact that the NEW STORE SHOWED ONLY THE SAME PERCENTAGE of sales that the old store would have shown in increases.  Pointing that out would only lead to misery, causing many good, seasoned managers to resign or be fired.

Pathetic.
 
2013-07-16 12:39:41 AM
 
2013-07-16 12:41:42 AM

lowrez: I'n still upset they closed tech america..


I still miss Egghead. :(
 
2013-07-16 12:44:53 AM
Haven't been to a RS in many years. Back when I was a youngin' I remember getting LM3909's and making LED flashers. A couple counters and a timer and a few other parts made 'digital' dice. And then, in the late 70's, the Holy Grail came out: the SN76477 sound synth. That became a project I did in High School and I was the envy of my fellow nerds.

Then there was the summer I saved everything I could from a summer job I got plus allowance money to get a DX-300 short wave radio. I can still hear it now...

tick
tick
tictic
tick
at the tone, 17 hours 15 minutes coordinated universal time
...
BEEP
tick
tick

/now i feel farking old
//radio shack has always had cheap rc cars for as long as there have ever been rc cars
 
2013-07-16 12:46:13 AM
Radio Shack got the city of Fort Worth to condemn the section 8 projects downtown(which were very convenient as the criminal courts building was right next door so the Sheriffs Deputies could arrest miscreants and have them in court in 2 minutes) to build a very awesome and expensive new headquarters.

It was revealed their new CEO made up his college degree after he got caught drunk driving and the local paper took an interest in him. Radio Shack promptly lost a sheet hole of money 6 months later and laid off 1/2 the staff that worked there.

The local community college then stepped in to buy the new HDQ from them for an obscene amount of money.

No idea how that company survives today.
 
2013-07-16 12:47:02 AM
  Time to bring up this old, nostalgic link:

http://www.radioshackcatalogs.com/catalog_directory.html
 
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