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(The New York Times)   Retailers using facial recognition to target sales. "If you are an angry man of 30, and it is Friday evening, it may offer you a bottle of whiskey," says woman who is unclear on what could possibly go wrong   (nytimes.com) divider line 113
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2013-07-15 04:53:39 PM

theorellior: I'm thinking it might be time for payphones to make a comeback, so people can make calls in public if they don't feel like carrying around a personal tracking device with scads of private data on it.


FARKING THIS.  Removing pay phones and crushing all the late-models under "cash for clunkers" are two shrewd and deceitful decisions to funnel the cattle into a forced economy in which your connectivity merely means you are never alone or enjoying privacy.

Think about it this way:  The NSA doesn't need to tap servers if they've created infrastructure to intercept the data in between servers.  That wifi radio in your pocket is a homing beacon.  No more no less.
 
2013-07-15 04:53:40 PM
FTA:  "The idea that you're being stalked in a store is, I think, a bit creepy, as opposed to, it's only a cookie - they don't really know who I am," said Robert Plant.

1)  This guy is naive if he thinks that they don't know who he is online.

2)  This guy is smart by continuing to tour with "The Sensational Space Shifters," if he doesn't want people to know who he is.  A Led Zep or even Honey Drippers reunion would be a give away.
 
2013-07-15 04:54:20 PM
tricycleracer



Random Anonymous Blackmail: tricycleracer

Who just walks around all day with their WiFi radio on?

A number of people, devices attempt to connect to any Wi-Fi in an attempt to lower the amount of data you use on your plan unless you turn it off.

WTF background apps are people running that the phone in their pocket is going to blow through their data cap?


I think it was designed as more of a convenience to not have to turn on wi-fi when you are in a joint with an open access more so than background data.
 
2013-07-15 04:55:02 PM

toraque: Hrmm, so that's why where ever I go, someone tries to sell me a sex toy and a gallon of industrial strength lube.


Why, is this your face?

www.chicagonow.com
 
2013-07-15 04:55:14 PM
That's it.  We've crossed the line.  Burn all advertising agencies to the damn ground.  It's not free speech, but malicious brainwashing with an intent to defraud.  Every single one of the assholes behind this should be dead.
 
2013-07-15 04:56:08 PM
God I can't wait to have my compound in the woods where I don't have to deal with this crap.
 
2013-07-15 04:56:33 PM
As a 30-year-old angry white jackass, I'm... Crying on the inside, humbled by this article.
 
2013-07-15 04:56:35 PM

paswa17: here to help: F*CK OFF WITH THIS CREEPY STALKER BULLSH*T!!!

F*cking corporate cockbag POS motherf*ckstains!!! Try making a good product/service and I'll consider buying it. If I find out you are pulling this creeper insanity you'll get NOTHING from me. NOTHING!!!

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Would you like to purchase a bottle of whiskey?


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2013-07-15 04:57:20 PM
And the award for what 'minority report' would ACTUALLY get used for goes to...
 
2013-07-15 04:58:54 PM

ProfessorOhki: Moodybastard: I go to brick and mortar stores for two reasons:

1) to put money in the local economy
2) not be freaking tracked like a commodity


Aaand I know any purchase made with a credit card or debit card is gonna get tracked anyway....

Do you have your rewards/club/points card? Thank you and have a nice day Mr. Bastard.


Mine is set up to have email of bar­r­y*ob­ama[nospam-﹫-backwards]esuohetih­w­*g­o­v and the white house switchboard phone number, so they will know he drinks a lot of Black Cherry Mike Hard Lemonade coolers.

scene7.samsclub.com
 
2013-07-15 04:58:55 PM

theorellior: I'm thinking it might be time for payphones to make a comeback, so people can make calls in public if they don't feel like carrying around a personal tracking device with scads of private data on it.


You could always just use a basic phone and keep it turned off or in airplane mode whenever you weren't using it.  That would accomplish much the same thing as using a payphone, although if you did turn it on and make a call, you could be located while the phone was on.
 
2013-07-15 04:59:48 PM

tricycleracer: Who just walks around all day with their WiFi radio on?


I'll bet it isn't really using WiFi. It's probably the signals of the cell phone itself as it keeps in touch with the cell system.
 
2013-07-15 05:02:52 PM

Famous Thamas: Just start wearing one of those V for Vendetta masks all over the place, they'll never be able to track you then.


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2013-07-15 05:05:59 PM

jshine: You could always just use a basic phone and keep it turned off or in airplane mode whenever you weren't using it.


These days, I'm thinking even that won't work. You'd have to remove the battery to be sure.
 
2013-07-15 05:08:21 PM
"Judging by your heat signature Mr. Smith I would say prohylactics are on aisle seven, but cross refrencing that signature with your banking information, calloused palms and hair pattern you're better off hitting the magazine rack at the liquor store next door. Lotions are available on seventeen, however."
 
2013-07-15 05:09:26 PM
Or her an std kit
 
2013-07-15 05:09:56 PM

Fano: Can it tell if I need a plasma rifle in the 40 watt range?


Hey, just what ya see, pal.
 
2013-07-15 05:12:57 PM
After all, this service is here to help
 
2013-07-15 05:14:11 PM
img2-2.timeinc.netwww.fingers.co.nz
 
2013-07-15 05:18:52 PM
Paranoid motherfarkers!
/huxley = comunism failed
//orwell = comuinism won
///facism either way
 
2013-07-15 05:20:05 PM
 
2013-07-15 05:20:05 PM

DORMAMU: After all, this service is here to help


Wow.

Fark ate my quote of "here to help"'s rant.

I fail
 
2013-07-15 05:21:23 PM
I wonder what the relative outrage is between private stores and companies doing this and governments doing this. Because, from my standpoint, they're roughly equivalent and part of the reason, I suspect, some people may want more regulations on business practices and transparency/accountability in government. It seems to me that it would be logically inconsistent to be differentially upset or creeped out by government (or private industry) doing this when private industry (or government) is doing the same thing, for much the same reasons too (i.e. money, control, etc.).

But then again, this isn't in the politics tab, so maybe I shouldn't start no sh*t so there won't be no sh*t.
 
2013-07-15 05:22:14 PM
If I'm black and wearing a hoodie, will it offer me ice tea and skittles?
 
2013-07-15 05:22:19 PM

DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.


Sick good or sick bad?

/Not sure without phrenological results.
 
2013-07-15 05:22:45 PM

Todd300: So first it was getting location tracking into everyone's hands with cell phones, and now its gonna be getting all those cameras and Google Glass to let us visually surveill and record each other.

All the time. No exceptions.

Enjoy they new slavery, folks. Who owns you?


well a decade back I would have said Sharper Image.  This would have totally been their schtick
 
2013-07-15 05:24:14 PM
FTA:
"It's literally bringing the Amazon experience into the store."

So...they're charging 30-50% less?
 
2013-07-15 05:25:01 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: So if I went in the childrens wear department and pretended to masturbate, what would happen.


Are you asking or telling?
 
2013-07-15 05:27:40 PM

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: "You have been crying recently, Lucy. Would you like to see our sales on ice cream, chocolate, and shotguns?"


Hey now, you want repeat customers.
 
2013-07-15 05:31:28 PM
 a couple of non expert notes.
for either wi-fi or through 3gpp, to actually pinpoint a device with any accuracy you need at least 3 APs. Even then it's not an exact science, especially in a retail space.  Different devices have different power level, so different signal strengths reported back to the APs.  I mean they can tell roughly where you are, they can certainly track dwell time and how if you are a unique or re occurring visitor , however that's about it. So far.
 
2013-07-15 05:32:09 PM

PsyRat: If I'm black and wearing a hoodie, will it offer me ice tea and skittles?


Ohhhhh, too soon, dude.
 
2013-07-15 05:34:19 PM

DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.


Why do you hate capitalism?

/Free markets!
//Hurr durr, etc.
 
2013-07-15 05:38:36 PM

iron de havilland: DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.

Why do you hate capitalism?

/Free markets!
//Hurr durr, etc.


I've always wondered, do anti-capitalists ever start businesses? If they do, what prices do they set and how do they live, given that seeking a profit is bad?
 
2013-07-15 05:39:49 PM
If these methods seem intrusive, at least some consumers seem happy to trade privacy for deals. Placed, a company based in Seattle, has an app that asks consumers where they are in a store in exchange for cash and prepaid gift cards from Amazon and Google Play, among others. More than 500,000 people have downloaded the app since last August, said a company spokeswoman, Sarah Radwanick, providing information like gender, age and income, and agreeing to be tracked over GPS, Wi-Fi and cellular networks. Placed then sells the data to store owners, online retailers and app developers.

F*ck these people. YOU are what is wrong with modern day society! Encouraging these c*ntbags so you can get 50 cents off your goddamned corporate whore garbage. F*ck you!

"I would just love it if a coupon pops up on my phone," said Linda Vertlieb, 30, a blogger in Philadelphia, who said that she was not aware of the tracking methods, but that the idea did not bother her. Stores are "trying to sell, so that makes sense," she said.

And f*ck you too Linda Vertlieb you shill c*nt. I hope you choke on that corporate cock you are so eager to gobble on. WHORE!

That said... I'll take my whiskey now please.
 
2013-07-15 05:56:49 PM

DubtodaIll: JohnHall: DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.

That's called advertising...

And I'm still right.


You ain't one of them thar comminists are ya son?
 
2013-07-15 06:27:54 PM

The Stealth Hippopotamus: DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.

They're just trying to give you what you want.


They're just trying to give you what they want you to want.
FTFY.
 
2013-07-15 06:27:56 PM
Would you like to buy a gun?
 
2013-07-15 06:34:12 PM

ProfessorOhki: Moodybastard: I go to brick and mortar stores for two reasons:

1) to put money in the local economy
2) not be freaking tracked like a commodity


Aaand I know any purchase made with a credit card or debit card is gonna get tracked anyway....

Do you have your rewards/club/points card? Thank you and have a nice day Mr. Bastard.


I have lots of reward cards, at one store, I am Steve McQueen, at another I am M. Ghandi ( get some weird looks when the cashier hands me the receipt and says "thank you Mister... uhhhhhh Ghandi) and so on.
Of course I always give my correct phone number......
 
2013-07-15 06:50:04 PM
This is why we cannot have somewhat mediocre things.
 
2013-07-15 07:00:18 PM

paswa17: here to help: F*CK OFF WITH THIS CREEPY STALKER BULLSH*T!!!

F*cking corporate cockbag POS motherf*ckstains!!! Try making a good product/service and I'll consider buying it. If I find out you are pulling this creeper insanity you'll get NOTHING from me. NOTHING!!!

Ads by FARK
Would you like to purchase a bottle of whiskey?


To be fair, one wouldn't need to know much about the average Farker to suggest that.
 
2013-07-15 07:26:42 PM
If it's morning and I'm grumpy and someone or something offers me whisky, there's a pretty good chance I will immediately make out with that person or thing.
 
2013-07-15 07:30:11 PM
info.techport13.com
 
2013-07-15 07:53:20 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: So if I went in the childrens wear department and pretended to masturbate, what would happen.


lolz. i think there is a list we can put you on.
 
2013-07-15 08:04:21 PM

iron de havilland: DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.

Why do you hate capitalism?

/Free markets!
//Hurr durr, etc.


Because it's a predatory and adversarial ideology, predicated on frequently artificial scarcity?

Why do you not hate capitalism? You like shiat rolling downhill?
 
2013-07-15 08:31:07 PM

Bandito King: iron de havilland: DubtodaIll: I think it's really sick to delve in to human behavior in order to figure out how to extract more money from the human behaving.

Why do you hate capitalism?

/Free markets!
//Hurr durr, etc.

Because it's a predatory and adversarial ideology, predicated on frequently artificial scarcity?

Why do you not hate capitalism? You like shiat rolling downhill?


I don't like capitalism, but, realistically, I get money paid into my bank account by the running dogs who employ me.

And the only option for socialist voting in my country is swirling the drain at the moment. The Labour party, founded by the working class to protect the rights of the common man continues its rightward lurch in its appeal to readers of The Sun.

WTF.
 
2013-07-15 08:32:17 PM
I kinda knew about this but didn't pay much attention, was one of those "Eh, I don't shop at the Limited/Gap/Vickies Not so Secret so why would I care?" A little over a year ago, I got voicemails for Maria Pedro.  No idea who she is, but she's in some deep shiat and apparently has my number or has been giving it out for quite some time.  Tried to get removed from call list, ended up on at least 2 more.  *Sigh*. I'd rather remove the battery out of my phone and wait for it to boot up 2 mins and then head home.  I may be doing that, going forward.  Not a fan of the Feds knowing how often I eat out or in each week.  I'm cool with leaving the phone off and at home :)
 
2013-07-15 08:47:30 PM

Random Anonymous Blackmail: A number of people, devices attempt to connect to any Wi-Fi in an attempt to lower the amount of data you use on your plan unless you turn it off.


Yeah.  Yet another reason I'm happy I went with unlimited data and texting and limited minutes.

here to help: If these methods seem intrusive, at least some consumers seem happy to trade privacy for deals. Placed, a company based in Seattle, has an app that asks consumers where they are in a store in exchange for cash and prepaid gift cards from Amazon and Google Play, among others. More than 500,000 people have downloaded the app since last August, said a company spokeswoman, Sarah Radwanick, providing information like gender, age and income, and agreeing to be tracked over GPS, Wi-Fi and cellular networks. Placed then sells the data to store owners, online retailers and app developers.

F*ck these people. YOU are what is wrong with modern day society! Encouraging these c*ntbags so you can get 50 cents off your goddamned corporate whore garbage. F*ck you!


If the gift card was of any *substantial* value, I *might* risk it.

But I'd just lie about my age, gender, and income like anything else I sign up for.  They could possibly glean some of that info, I guess, depending on what permissions, if they know the phone is in my name somehow (I give out my Google Voice forwarding-to-cell as my number so I have transcribed voice mails, so they couldn't tie it any other way), and if they had my name if they crossed that with some other lame marketing vampire who somehow got my income (haven't applied for a mortgage, bought my car in cash, so...)...

Like the stupid used-to-love local grocery mini-chain that now has sales they straight up won't give you unless you have a loyalty card tied to a working email (checked) and phone (possibly checking that it's a possible number; they called me out on 586-867-5309) and address.  I'd boycott it entirely but there are a few places I end up at for work where their deli is my only option for non-fast food.

So I finally ended up using:

firstn­a­me[nospam-﹫-backwards]hctaclia­m*c­om
My office fax number
And 1060 West Addison, Chicago IL for my address.

/1060 West Addison?
//that's Wrigley Field
 
2013-07-15 09:33:28 PM
As someone currently doing SEM work..

Not surprised in the least.

/Doesn't like SEM work.
//Prefer Global Content.
 
2013-07-15 09:51:47 PM
If you ever need an easy to remember address just use a zip code of 55555 it's in Young America MN.
 
2013-07-16 12:36:06 AM
 
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