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2013-07-15 08:38:22 PM

HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?


It's apparently some kind of insult.
 
2013-07-15 08:38:26 PM

ten foiled hats: tinfoil-hat maggie: They're both crustaceans and wasn't the law against bottom feeders? It's been awhile but I know Southern Baptist that love their catfish.

Hell, I don't know any that don't.


Oh, I know I guess technically I'm a G.R.I.T.S. but I don't think they'd let me into their club : )
 
2013-07-15 08:39:47 PM

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


And I'll bet each of them would not consider themselves to be a bigot, despite displaying bigoted opinions.
 
2013-07-15 08:39:53 PM

hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...


I thought about mentioning something about hot pics but that would have been too much... opps ; )
 
2013-07-15 08:44:19 PM

ciberido: TopoGigo: letrole: the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!

Lobster is my surname, you ass.

Nice!

I wonder, though, do you suppose it's just more trolling when he talks about "strawman arguments," or is "strawman" being redefined to mean "an argument I don't like"?

Also, it's not lobster, it's shrimp, silly troll people!


Either everything he says is a clumsy attempt at trolling, or his surname really is letrole and he's just a clumsy bigot. Your choice.
 
2013-07-15 08:45:14 PM

ciberido: I wonder, though, do you suppose it's just more trolling when he talks about "strawman arguments," or is "strawman" being redefined to mean "an argument I don't like"?


Years ago after reading one too many internet arguments about religion, I proposed the classification of the "ontological strawman defense," which is basically a specific form of question-begging. It goes something like this:

The first person presents his argument:

Premise 1: (blah blah blah)
Premise 2: (blah blah blah)
...
Premise X: This is one of the best arguments in the history of philosophy and is totally sound.
...
Ergo, Conclusion.

The second person, unimpressed, argues against premises 1 through X-1.
The first person fires back and says "Aha! You refuse to acknowledge premise X, 'This is one of the best arguments in history,' therefore, you're attacking a strawman, and not my real position. I win."

/ All this to say that cries of "strawman" are pretty much the first thing learned by erstwhile keyboard warriors who imagine themselves to have a good grasp of logic and argumentation. Frequently it's the only thing.
// And if your only tool is a hammer...
/// Seriously, when was the last time you heard someone call out "Inverse Gambler's Fallacy!" in an internet argument?
 
2013-07-15 08:45:44 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


I'll pick the one the rises again first

so...God

/off my lawn
 
2013-07-15 08:48:30 PM

hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...


But it's true,you're well informed and can be funny as hell. I have you favorited with the word Rocket Caskets.
 
2013-07-15 08:55:09 PM

HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?


I'm fine with it, personally.  I use the terms "pro-gay rights,"  "gay-friendly," and "gay-positive" pretty much interchangeably.  I don't mind using or being called "pro-gay" or "progay."

Why, is there something bad about the term "pro-gay"?
 
2013-07-15 08:55:38 PM
This is just crazy. How can you possibly recognize that people used their religion to justify horrible things then turn right around and act like religious people who are AGAINST using their religion to justify a horrible thing (IE, denying equal rights to gays) are the bad guys?
 
2013-07-15 08:55:48 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )


Missed ya!

Happy to see your pretty aqua color show up in the comments! Win.
 
2013-07-15 08:58:36 PM

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


I honestly don't understand this...  If you merely called yourself Christian you would be able to cite numerous verses that support a fair and equal treatment of the members of the LGBTQ community.  You could say you aren't held to Rabbinical law by Jesus' teaching.  But in calling yourself Catholic you are claiming to be a member of an organization you don't agree with.  Why not join a church whose teachings are compatible with your beliefs?
 
2013-07-15 08:58:51 PM
25.   Having sex with your mother (18:7), 26.   Having sex with your father's wife (18:8), 27.   Having sex with your sister (18:9), 28.   Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10), 29.  Having sex with your half-sister (18:11), 30.   Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13), 31.   Having sex with your uncle's wife (18:14), 32.   Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15), 33.   Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16), 34.   Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17), 35.   Marrying your wife's sister while your wife still lives (18:18), 37.   Having sex with your neighbour's wife (18:20), 40.   Having sex with an animal (18:23)



What the holy fark  were people doing in the ancient near east that these rules had to be codified?!?!  Was everyone just boning everyone and anyone and everything and anything in sight? These rules make the Bunny Ranch look like a convent for crissakes! Seriously, what the fark people, just because there's a hole there doesn't mean you have to stick your dick into it!

38.   Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)


Curious: Why Molek specifically? Are there other god/demon/scary-ass statues that it's OK to sacrifice your children to? Or is this Molek representative of all gods/demons/scary-ass statues that demand child sacrifice? And, so your children are right out, but does that mean that other people's children are OK? Or adults are OK? Or animals? What about this random old shoe I found on the side of the road. It's kind of dirty and smelly and I'm pretty sure there's an advanced form of mold life growing on it. Can I sacrifice that to Molek? On second thought, maybe I shouldn't, that might just piss him off. Molek doesn't sound like the name of someone you want to piss off.
 
2013-07-15 08:59:48 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...

I thought about mentioning something about hot pics but that would have been too much... opps ; )


You know I can't stay mad at a pretty gal. ;)
 
2013-07-15 09:03:04 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


Wrong. Also the Bible never condemns spanking it. The sin of Onan was not blowing his load inside his dead brother's wife, as the law expected him to do. See back then if your brother was married and you weren't and he died, you were expected to take over as her husband without question. And that included having kids with her. And Onan just wasn't into that. Calling masturbation Onanism is about as valid as calling teh buttsex Sodomy, it represents a complete misunderstanding of what the Biblical story is actually about.
 
2013-07-15 09:05:40 PM

42_42_42: What the holy fark were people doing in the ancient near east that these rules had to be codified?!?!


Not to freak you out, but they're still codified in the law. Oh sure the law may be a little less specific, but you look up the laws for any state and you'll find the same things explicitly outlawed.
 
2013-07-15 09:06:51 PM

letrole: the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!


Feel the wrath of the claw, Nazi scum!
fc06.deviantart.net
/hot
 
2013-07-15 09:07:15 PM

Diogenes: I was fully prepared to be angered by this and primed to offer a refutation.  But I'm really more confused than anything.

factoryconnection: This guy... this guy can troll.

No doubt!


Ditto. I missed the part where what he was saying made sense.
 
2013-07-15 09:08:12 PM

megarian: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )

Missed ya!

Happy to see your pretty aqua color show up in the comments! Win.


LOl : ) And I got a pretty color win ; )
 
2013-07-15 09:08:19 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: ten foiled hats: tinfoil-hat maggie: They're both crustaceans and wasn't the law against bottom feeders? It's been awhile but I know Southern Baptist that love their catfish.

Hell, I don't know any that don't.

Oh, I know I guess technically I'm a G.R.I.T.S. but I don't think they'd let me into their club : )


A lot of them are actually alright, I just have no desire to join that club.  It's just that, like a lot of other instances,  the really loud ones that are the biggest assholes.  (Just my assessment.)

I'll eat catfish with 'em, though.  (And do I fall under B.R.I.T.S.?  I'm mainly Scottish descent...)

TopoGigo: Either everything he says is a clumsy attempt at trolling, or his surname really is letrole and he's just a clumsy bigot. Your choice.


I think the former.  I found the gay circle jerk line funny, though.  (Not sure if that's how he meant it.)
 
2013-07-15 09:09:25 PM

reklamfox: ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: Brick-House: Looking how the female vote slanted toward BOB, I'm still opposed to women coating.

Women have always been a fan of Battery-Operated Boyfriends.

Keep mine in the top shelf of the nightstand right next to the bed. Ready for action.


Good answer, and the judges will also accept "Plugged in and under the bed." Bonus points for everyone!
 
2013-07-15 09:10:54 PM

megarian: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )

Missed ya!

Happy to see your pretty aqua color show up in the comments! Win.


Oh and really ask Hubie for pics if you haven't ; )
/Well since he said he can't stay made at me : )
 
2013-07-15 09:18:20 PM

CruJones: Broseph 12: 27  Douche not unto others, lest thou be spoken of as a douche.  Be cool to all.

Or a favorite of mine from Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan:  Be excellent to each other.  And party on dudes.

/article's logic makes as much sense as quoting Bill and Ted


Sadly, I find the fictional words of bill and ted to be far more reasonable than those of a real person. Lots of idiots on this world.
 
2013-07-15 09:18:25 PM

42_42_42: 25.   Having sex with your mother (18:7), 26.   Having sex with your father's wife (18:8), 27.   Having sex with your sister (18:9), 28.   Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10), 29.  Having sex with your half-sister (18:11), 30.   Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13), 31.   Having sex with your uncle's wife (18:14), 32.   Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15), 33.   Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16), 34.   Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17), 35.   Marrying your wife's sister while your wife still lives (18:18), 37.   Having sex with your neighbour's wife (18:20), 40.   Having sex with an animal (18:23)

What the holy fark  were people doing in the ancient near east that these rules had to be codified?!?!  Was everyone just boning everyone and anyone and everything and anything in sight? These rules make the Bunny Ranch look like a convent for crissakes! Seriously, what the fark people, just because there's a hole there doesn't mean you have to stick your dick into it!


In fairness, have you watched daytime TV in the last fifteen, twenty years? Seriously. There are some messed up folks in this world, and not just from the hills up in the Appalachians. And apparently, they has been messed the f*ck up for more than a few thousand years. Just LOOK at the tales of the Greek gods, even the Norse for that matter. Cripes, my own mother's people. Amaterasu, Goddess of the Sun, was tricked to come out of Ama-no-Iwato by a cootchie dance. People have been messed up for a LONG ass time...
 
2013-07-15 09:18:58 PM

ciberido: HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?

I'm fine with it, personally.  I use the terms "pro-gay rights,"  "gay-friendly," and "gay-positive" pretty much interchangeably.  I don't mind using or being called "pro-gay" or "progay."

Why, is there something bad about the term "pro-gay"?


No, there is nothing bad about the term itself.  Can you define what "progay" means though?  Obviously the haters are using it as an insult.  I support equal rights for everyone.  I've never called myself "problack" or "prowomen".  I don't think I've ever heard those terms used before.  They aren't bad, they just don't make sense.
 
2013-07-15 09:19:28 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )

Missed ya!

Happy to see your pretty aqua color show up in the comments! Win.

Oh and really ask Hubie for pics if you haven't ; )
/Well since he said he can't stay made at me : )


*shakes a fist inna air*
 
2013-07-15 09:24:28 PM

hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )

Missed ya!

Happy to see your pretty aqua color show up in the comments! Win.

Oh and really ask Hubie for pics if you haven't ; )
/Well since he said he can't stay made at me : )

*shakes a fist inna air*


Yes I'm just so wrong I may be right ; )
 
2013-07-15 09:27:31 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


Replace "cock" with "money" and the same argument could be made about capitalism.
 
2013-07-15 09:28:02 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.


No, it really isn't, or else adultery and idolatry would be the same commandment, rather than two separate sins listed in the Ten Commandments.  Why do you think you know theology better than God Himself?


Mouser: Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

I'm reminded of a parable.  Jesus liked parables.  You should like parables.

Two traveling monks reached a river where they met a young woman. Wary of the current, she asked if they could carry her across. One of the monks hesitated, but the other quickly picked her up onto his shoulders, transported her across the water, and put her down on the other bank. She thanked him and departed.

As the monks continued on their way, the one was brooding and preoccupied. Unable to hold his silence, he spoke out. "Brother, our spiritual training teaches us to avoid any contact with women, but you picked that one up on your shoulders and carried her!"

"Brother," the second monk replied, "I set her down on the other side, while you are still carrying her."


So, I ask you, who is the one serving two masters: the one with the healthy sex life, or the one who denies himself sexual pleasure while always struggling against his urges?

/Yes, it's a Buddhist parable, but that's really not the point.
 
2013-07-15 09:32:09 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...

I thought about mentioning something about hot pics but that would have been too much... opps ; )


Wait wait wait...

Pics or it didn't happen?

/*shrug*
//a girl can try
 
2013-07-15 09:34:41 PM

Pincy: ciberido: HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?

I'm fine with it, personally.  I use the terms "pro-gay rights,"  "gay-friendly," and "gay-positive" pretty much interchangeably.  I don't mind using or being called "pro-gay" or "progay."

Why, is there something bad about the term "pro-gay"?

No, there is nothing bad about the term itself.  Can you define what "progay" means though?  Obviously the haters are using it as an insult.  I support equal rights for everyone.  I've never called myself "problack" or "prowomen".  I don't think I've ever heard those terms used before.  They aren't bad, they just don't make sense.


Here is kind of my thing, and I asked earlier, but I still don't get it.  I mean, I use the term as well, and have no qualms whatsoever about it, but it doesn't make the most sense to me, just on it's face.  It's superfluous and creates a dichotomy where none should exist.  I'm a straight white male, and I'm pretty f*cking pro-straight-white-male rights, except I'm pro those rights being everyone's rights, whether it's minorities voting or gays getting married or what have you.  What gay rights?  Do they mean straight rights for gays?  Does that then make the rights gay?  Do my straight rights become gay rights?  Or are we just talking about the same damned rights, and they're rights and that's it?
 
2013-07-15 09:38:46 PM

ciberido: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

No, it really isn't, or else adultery and idolatry would be the same commandment, rather than two separate sins listed in the Ten Commandments.  Why do you think you know theology better than God Himself?


Mouser: Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

I'm reminded of a parable.  Jesus liked parables.  You should like parables.

Two traveling monks reached a river where they met a young woman. Wary of the current, she asked if they could carry her across. One of the monks hesitated, but the other quickly picked her up onto his shoulders, transported her across the water, and put her down on the other bank. She thanked him and departed.

As the monks continued on their way, the one was brooding and preoccupied. Unable to hold his silence, he spoke out. "Brother, our spiritual training teaches us to avoid any contact with women, but you picked that one up on your shoulders and carried her!"

"Brother," the second monk replied, "I set her down on the other side, while you are still carrying her."

So, I ask you, who is the one serving two masters: the one with the healthy sex life, or the one who denies himself sexual pleasure while always struggling against his urges?

/Yes, it's a Buddhist parable, but that's really not the point.


Have you watched "The Man From Earth"? And yea I do get into the Buddhist parables, I like the one about the cat at the Buddha's funeral : )
 
2013-07-15 09:39:08 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: Many Christians were slave owners and opposed suffrage.


I think you meant "Many slave owners were Christian," unless you're going for a logical fallacy on purpose.
 
2013-07-15 09:42:20 PM

megarian: tinfoil-hat maggie: hubiestubert: tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...

I thought about mentioning something about hot pics but that would have been too much... opps ; )

Wait wait wait...

Pics or it didn't happen?

/*shrug*
//a girl can try


Just ask Hubie, although yes I do have pics well I have no problems with that I just need to be asked I don't wanna send unwanted pics ; )
 
2013-07-15 09:47:11 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry. It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


Prove it.

/pro-tip: YOU CAN'T
 
2013-07-15 09:56:03 PM

Kurmudgeon: Same as anti-Theists who want to hold the whole thing in contempt without giving what is actually written any study other than what can be used to support a preconceived bias.


You typed "anti-Theist" when you meant to type "Theist," so I FTFY.

/you're welcome
 
2013-07-15 10:04:42 PM

artemusprine: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I honestly don't understand this...  If you merely called yourself Christian you would be able to cite numerous verses that support a fair and equal treatment of the members of the LGBTQ community.  You could say you aren't held to Rabbinical law by Jesus' teaching.  But in calling yourself Catholic you are claiming to be a member of an organization you don't agree with.  Why not join a church whose teachings are compatible with your beliefs?


As a Catholic generally in cookiefleck's shoes, it's just not that simple.  It's like being a Browns fan.

Each and every year, you go out, hoping you'll finally have a good team (change stances on key issues).  But inevitably, they let you down (and fire someone who advocated support for gay marriage, or whatever).  But you can't just leave, you grew up with this team and you genuinely want them to succeed.  So maybe, to show your displeasure, you stop going to the games (mass) and stop buying their merchandise (collections), but once your diehard-fan family finds out, they start accusing you of abandoning the team (leaving the faith).
Maybe, if you're old enough, you can remember a time when they were a good team and hadn't yet lost sight of what was really important, the fans (helping the poor).  They're different now, though, and only seem to care about the fundamentals (fundamentalists), even if it costs them the game (membership, especially young people).
So really, there's not much you can do.  You don't really want to switch to another, better managed team (switching religions), although it would be nice to finally be part of a winning organization.  Maybe, you hope, enough people will just stop going and management will get the message and start making some changes.  But until some of the older, more die-hard fans (fundamentalists) die off, you don't think you'll see any changes.  One day, though, they'll be good again...
 
2013-07-15 10:14:37 PM

Tomahawk513: As a Catholic generally in cookiefleck's shoes, it's just not that simple. It's like being a Browns fan.

Each and every year, you go out, hoping you'll finally have a good team (change stances on key issues). But inevitably, they let you down (and fire someone who advocated support for gay marriage, or whatever). But you can't just leave, you grew up with this team and you genuinely want them to succeed. So maybe, to show your displeasure, you stop going to the games (mass) and stop buying their merchandise (collections), but once your diehard-fan family finds out, they start accusing you of abandoning the team (leaving the faith).
Maybe, if you're old enough, you can remember a time when they were a good team and hadn't yet lost sight of what was really important, the fans (helping the poor). They're different now, though, and only seem to care about the fundamentals (fundamentalists), even if it costs them the game (membership, especially young people).
So really, there's not much you can do. You don't really want to switch to another, better managed team (switching religions), although it would be nice to finally be part of a winning organization. Maybe, you hope, enough people will just stop going and management will get the message and start making some changes. But until some of the older, more die-hard fans (fundamentalists) die off, you don't think you'll see any changes. One day, though, they'll be good again...


Catholics are more popular than the Browns, though.  As a Cubs fan, may I recommend the Cubs.  (Although I guess if you're more comfortable with the Browns, it still works.  And in both cases, fans of other teams sure look at you funny.)

Whup, Bubble Show's back on!
 
2013-07-15 10:18:52 PM
42_42_42
What the holy fark  were people doing in the ancient near east that these rules had to be codified?!?!  Was everyone just boning everyone and anyone and everything and anything in sight? These rules make the Bunny Ranch look like a convent for crissakes! Seriously, what the fark people, just because there's a hole there doesn't mean you have to stick your dick into it!

I always think of the Commandments as being a little like the Bill of Rights, fairly clear in intent but vague enough to be broadly applied.  Eventually the Rabbis took it upon themselves to add to the law and it became as confusing and conflicted as the current tax codes.  You can imagine that each of those laws was likely a response to a specific incident.  Someone comes to the Rabbi with a dispute over what constitutes working on the Sabbath and the Rabbi had to provide a hard definition to what was before then open to individual interpretation.  A family fights over the son's new tattoo, so the Rabbi declares tattoos forbidden, someone gets sick from a blood-borne illness and so menstruating women are from then on to be sent off to the huts.  And of course, lots of boning happened too.
 
2013-07-15 10:27:29 PM

artemusprine: 42_42_42
What the holy fark  were people doing in the ancient near east that these rules had to be codified?!?!  Was everyone just boning everyone and anyone and everything and anything in sight? These rules make the Bunny Ranch look like a convent for crissakes! Seriously, what the fark people, just because there's a hole there doesn't mean you have to stick your dick into it!

I always think of the Commandments as being a little like the Bill of Rights, fairly clear in intent but vague enough to be broadly applied.  Eventually the Rabbis took it upon themselves to add to the law and it became as confusing and conflicted as the current tax codes.  You can imagine that each of those laws was likely a response to a specific incident.  Someone comes to the Rabbi with a dispute over what constitutes working on the Sabbath and the Rabbi had to provide a hard definition to what was before then open to individual interpretation.  A family fights over the son's new tattoo, so the Rabbi declares tattoos forbidden, someone gets sick from a blood-borne illness and so menstruating women are from then on to be sent off to the huts.  And of course, lots of boning happened too.


3000 years ago they had to put down "don't screw around on your betrothed."  People think adultery is something new, or that it isn't ingrained in us to seek out new places to deposit our sperm. But it's at least that old.
 
2013-07-15 10:29:48 PM

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.


Also, even if you're basically correct, what makes you the authority on what is and isn't sexual immorality?

And before you say "the Bible" do you even KNOW what the Bible says about sex?  I bet you couldn't name all the rules in the Old Testament addressing sexual relations if your life depended on it, without using an Internet search or going to a library.
 
2013-07-15 10:30:35 PM
Some of the early Gnostic churches seemed really fun of course the were all killed of or went into hiding., well now eh i got my mixed up hodge poge beliefs and am very queer and well if the bigots stopped having a say on my rights I wouldn't care until that day well, and may it be soon not that I have anyone to marry but it would make a huge difference once it becomes okay.
 
2013-07-15 10:35:39 PM

tinfoil-hat maggie: I've got you farkied as "cool preacher dude" so I may be reading that soon.


I'm honored.  I have you as "funny outdoorsy chick"

Also, I'll just leave this here regarding the Bible.
 
2013-07-15 10:43:47 PM

jonny_q: Coco LaFemme: Because let's face it, if you're anti-gay rights, you hate gays. There's no way to intelligently defend a stance that assumes homosexuals should be afforded second-class citizen status to heterosexuals unless you hate homosexuals.

This is just plain not true. I don't really want to argue the finer points of it, and I don't have a problem with people being for or against gay marriage. By saying that those against gay marriage logically must hate guys, you have a bad starting point for discussion, because there is plenty of room for A to be true and B to be false.


They're actively supporting denying other people rights. I don't think anyone gives a shiat as to why. Maybe they should, but when you've got the same end result either way...
 
2013-07-15 10:49:22 PM

Sgt Otter: FTA: But there exists no such financial benefit for people who correctly interpret scripture in reference to homosexual practices. No one who believes, teaches and upholds the sexual standards of the bible stands to benefit financially from doing so.

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That guy is so asking for Jesus to overturn his tables and drive them out of the temple with a whip. Such a thing is nothing more than trying to make a quick buck on God's name.
 
2013-07-15 10:50:26 PM

WhyteRaven74: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

Wrong. Also the Bible never condemns spanking it. The sin of Onan was not blowing his load inside his dead brother's wife, as the law expected him to do. See back then if your brother was married and you weren't and he died, you were expected to take over as her husband without question. And that included having kids with her. And Onan just wasn't into that. Calling masturbation Onanism is about as valid as calling teh buttsex Sodomy, it represents a complete misunderstanding of what the Biblical story is actually about.


Eh, the Bible may not condemn spanking it specifically, but it's kind of a big leap to say that "the Bible" is okay with it, (if the Bible can be said to have a unified, coherent view on topics, which is a separate, lengthy discussion.) There are also a couple of other passages that address the topic in a somewhat more roundabout way: First, in Leviticus, ejaculating is said to make a man ceremonially unclean for the day, unable to take part in religious observances involving the Tabernacle. This is pretty minor as things go, but it does establish that as far back as the early Old Testament sexual function was viewed as being at odds with piety. Interestingly enough, if a woman happened to be, um, "present," when said emission occurred, she was considered unclean also.

Second, (and most importantly,) in Matthew 5, Jesus goes on a very famous rant where he declares that lust is equivalent to adultery as far as your moral culpability is concerned, and he strongly implies that any sacrifice necessary to avoid lust is ultimately worth it for the sake of your soul. (My old pastors also used to intimate that Jesus' reference to "if you eye/right hand causes you to sin" was far from accidental.) I think it's safe to say that most people cannot masturbate without at least fantasizing about something that would be considered lust, so using Jesus' "the sin is in the motivation" rule, masturbation is usually considered to be a moral failing and a betrayal of your sexual purity. Porn is even worse.

Finally, let's face it: Christianity would not be what it is without Paul. He was the first one to actually carve some sort of soteriological message out of the demise of an itinerant preacher, and his teachings are generally thought to have influenced the content of the Gospels, which were written at least 20 years after Paul wrote. Paul was very negative about sexual relationships in general, and viewed people who were able to go without sex as being able to serve God better. Marriage was the only alternative that Paul offered to celibacy, because "it is better to marry than to burn." (See 1 Corinthians 7. "Burn" here may be something of double entendre.) Paul was tremendously hung up on standards of purity and advocated shunning anyone who didn't adhere to what he viewed as a self-evident code of sexual ethics, so it's definitely not safe to assume that he viewed arm-wrestling the purple-helmeted storm trooper as a harmless little bit of release.

/ Also, the best response to the troll you quoted is the one I haven't seen yet: "Well, I'm quite sure my cock exists...."
 
2013-07-15 10:50:56 PM

cjoshuav: tinfoil-hat maggie: I've got you farkied as "cool preacher dude" so I may be reading that soon.

I'm honored.  I have you as "funny outdoorsy chick"

Also, I'll just leave this here regarding the Bible.


As I said I'm not a christen but I'm not a hater either, that was pretty cool and yea try and take the Bible literally it can't happen but some good things were said, and other story's had good things said and I mix it up to work for me. My church is the woods I go out into a forest of trees and I can resolve just about anything. But I respect those that need or do whatever as long as no disrespect comes back on me.
 
2013-07-15 10:52:54 PM

Martian_Astronomer: / Also, the best response to the troll you quoted is the one I haven't seen yet: "Well, I'm quite sure my cock exists...."


LoL ; )
 
2013-07-15 10:56:59 PM

Martian_Astronomer: / Also, the best response to the troll you quoted is the one I haven't seen yet: "Well, I'm quite sure my cock exists...."


Oh and hedonism is considered more as a way a of life or something but in early Christian Gnostic practices well, the Roman catholic church didn't like them.
 
2013-07-15 11:08:25 PM
Way to desperately try to deny that you're on the wrong side of history.
 
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