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2013-07-15 07:32:10 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


So he gave us this wonderful cock and denounces us for enjoying it. God sounds kind of like a knob.

Anyway, I don't serve my cock, my cock serves me. And my lady.
 
2013-07-15 07:32:20 PM  

Martian_Astronomer: Much like a skilled yogi, it takes years and years of practice to be able to perform the mental contortions necessary to argue that opposing civil rights for a marginalized group actually places you in solidarity with those on the right side of history.


On the contrary, it's pretty easy.  He pretty much just took what a reasonable person might say about homophobes and substituted "pro-gay" for "homophobe."  One global search-and-replace, coupled with a quick edit to fix pronouns and subject-verb agreement would do it.
 
2013-07-15 07:33:41 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?



upload.wikimedia.org

Progays are tasty.
 
2013-07-15 07:36:28 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


Well, if you put money in the collection plate, then you are actively acting against reproductive rights, gay rights, and science in general, plus supporting a worldwide pedophile ring.  Doesn't matter what you personallyclaim to believe, your actions (supporting the Catholic Church) are actively harming people.
 
2013-07-15 07:36:45 PM  
Interestingly, I've been seeing this crop up more and more.  Whenever someone e-mails me about "How can you be a pastor and support same-sex marriage?" I always talk about slavery (which is very well-attested in the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament).  Apparently enough of us do that, that the whackos are now trying to claim that they are the spiritual descendants of the people who opposed slavery.

I don't get it.

Stupid is as stupid does, I suppose.

I recently wrote an essay on how socially progressive clergy are, indeed, Christians too, if anyone's interested.
 
2013-07-15 07:37:47 PM  

ciberido: Martian_Astronomer: Much like a skilled yogi, it takes years and years of practice to be able to perform the mental contortions necessary to argue that opposing civil rights for a marginalized group actually places you in solidarity with those on the right side of history.

On the contrary, it's pretty easy.  He pretty much just took what a reasonable person might say about homophobes and substituted "pro-gay" for "homophobe."  One global search-and-replace, coupled with a quick edit to fix pronouns and subject-verb agreement would do it.


Were you the author? ; )
/Sorry
 
2013-07-15 07:38:08 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

So he gave us this wonderful cock and denounces us for enjoying it. God sounds kind of like a knob.

Anyway, I don't serve my cock, my cock serves me. And my lady.


Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


Who the fark tries to anthropomorphize an anatomical feature? I guess the same people that think a imaginary sky wizard controls their fate...
 
2013-07-15 07:38:25 PM  

ghambone: How long until this ExGay gets caught farking a dude? The lady doth protest too much.....


latimesblogs.latimes.com
 
2013-07-15 07:41:10 PM  

cjoshuav: Interestingly, I've been seeing this crop up more and more.  Whenever someone e-mails me about "How can you be a pastor and support same-sex marriage?" I always talk about slavery (which is very well-attested in the Hebrew Bible and the New Testament).  Apparently enough of us do that, that the whackos are now trying to claim that they are the spiritual descendants of the people who opposed slavery.

I don't get it.

Stupid is as stupid does, I suppose.

I recently wrote an essay on how socially progressive clergy are, indeed, Christians too, if anyone's interested.


I've got you farkied as "cool preacher dude" so I may be reading that soon.
 
2013-07-15 07:41:24 PM  

illannoyin: [i.imgur.com image 598x350]

/Baby steps y'all


Actually I can see that being said in the south. Not very PC down there even amongst the gay rights supporters.
 
2013-07-15 07:42:25 PM  

jonny_q: Coco LaFemme: Because let's face it, if you're anti-gay rights, you hate gays. There's no way to intelligently defend a stance that assumes homosexuals should be afforded second-class citizen status to heterosexuals unless you hate homosexuals.

This is just plain not true. I don't really want to argue the finer points of it, and I don't have a problem with people being for or against gay marriage. By saying that those against gay marriage logically must hate guys, you have a bad starting point for discussion, because there is plenty of room for A to be true and B to be false.


Hatred is behaviour. Denying others a right you claim for yourself is demonstrably hateful. One can rationalize one's behaviour, based on religion, ideology, or whatever, but one is still behaving in a hateful manner.

"Those who would deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves."
-- A. Lincoln
 
2013-07-15 07:44:32 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: That's not a difficult decision at all. It's attached to me, and Jesus forgives.


That's the best part of being a Christian! You can go out and do whatever you want, as long as you have time to repent at the last minute.
 
2013-07-15 07:45:09 PM  

codergirl42: Mambo Bananapatch: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

So he gave us this wonderful cock and denounces us for enjoying it. God sounds kind of like a knob.

Anyway, I don't serve my cock, my cock serves me. And my lady.

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

Who the fark tries to anthropomorphize an anatomical feature? I guess the same people that think a imaginary sky wizard controls their fate...


I would never try to anthropomorphize my cock. He would hate that.
 
2013-07-15 07:45:35 PM  

42_42_42: phalamir: Coco LaFemme: I'm an atheist, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone.

Luke 14:26  If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.

That is the J Man speaking directly

Again, to understand ANYTHING in the Bible properly, you have to understand its historic and social context:


It's also worth pointing out that the Bible wasn't written in English, nor did Jesus ever speak English.  Any time someone "quotes" Jesus in English, it is at best a paraphrase (even if the original written record really were a perfect transcription, which they almost certainly weren't).  One must acknowledge that the real meaning could be lost in translation.

My favorite example of this, silly as it might be, is "thigh," which was used at the time as a euphemism for "penis."  So all of those stories in the Bible in which a man was "struck in his thigh" or "suffered an injury to his thigh" refer to nasty things happening to their penises.
 
2013-07-15 07:47:25 PM  

StoPPeRmobile: fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Many Christians were slave owners and opposed suffrage. So the trolly headline fails unless both conditions are  both anecessary and asufficient condition for opposing those things.

Ayup. There's a helluva lot more stuff in the bible about slavery than there is about homosexuality.

Then thou shalt take an awl, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise.
Deuteronomy


So, slaves are like vampires?
 
2013-07-15 07:48:01 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


Some of us have a problem with people who support kiddie-diddlers.
 
2013-07-15 07:48:17 PM  

gimmegimme: I know this sounds crazy, but why don't we just stop believing that Bronze Age myths are real?


Because conservative brains are

s21.postimg.org

Solid, hard, unchangeable, thick, inflexible, dense...
 
2013-07-15 07:50:12 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.



That is some splitting hairs stuff there.  If you are following the path of a minister, then you could also argue that serving your wife is a distraction from ministry.   Lots of different sects say a  lot about that.   Most of protestants would fail that one.  How can a man who has never had sex or been in a relationship and see the true power of a woman counsel a couple?

/ stopped dating mostly because when I'm dating I lose all my logic skills
 
2013-07-15 07:50:50 PM  

ghambone: How long until this ExGay gets caught farking a dude? The lady doth protest too much.....


Yeah, I don't want to go overboard with the "anti-gay people are self-hating gays" meme, but this guy really does come across as projecting his own self-disgust hardcore.  Plus the whole "EX-gay" thing is just... too easy.

It's like shooting fish in a barrel, really.
 
2013-07-15 07:52:26 PM  

ciberido: 42_42_42: phalamir: Coco LaFemme: I'm an atheist, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone.

Luke 14:26  If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.

That is the J Man speaking directly

Again, to understand ANYTHING in the Bible properly, you have to understand its historic and social context:

It's also worth pointing out that the Bible wasn't written in English, nor did Jesus ever speak English.  Any time someone "quotes" Jesus in English, it is at best a paraphrase (even if the original written record really were a perfect transcription, which they almost certainly weren't).  One must acknowledge that the real meaning could be lost in translation.

My favorite example of this, silly as it might be, is "thigh," which was used at the time as a euphemism for "penis."  So all of those stories in the Bible in which a man was "struck in his thigh" or "suffered an injury to his thigh" refer to nasty things happening to their penises.


The Bible was also written 200 years after Jesus. So any quotes attributed to him are gossip at best and outright lies at worst.
 
2013-07-15 07:53:04 PM  

Snapper Carr: *reads article*


I feel dumber for having read that pile of shiat.
 
2013-07-15 07:55:20 PM  

ciberido: 42_42_42: phalamir: Coco LaFemme: I'm an atheist, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone.

Luke 14:26  If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.

That is the J Man speaking directly

Again, to understand ANYTHING in the Bible properly, you have to understand its historic and social context:

It's also worth pointing out that the Bible wasn't written in English, nor did Jesus ever speak English.  Any time someone "quotes" Jesus in English, it is at best a paraphrase (even if the original written record really were a perfect transcription, which they almost certainly weren't).  One must acknowledge that the real meaning could be lost in translation.

My favorite example of this, silly as it might be, is "thigh," which was used at the time as a euphemism for "penis."  So all of those stories in the Bible in which a man was "struck in his thigh" or "suffered an injury to his thigh" refer to nasty things happening to their penises.


Oh my...
t3.gstatic.com

Oh and just wanna say you're one of the people that got me to look into being LGBT and christen. I mean I'm not christen but I don't want to be prejudice against someone for their beliefs when their not being prejudice towards me. As I've said my parents call themselves christens and are pretty good ones.
 
2013-07-15 07:55:35 PM  

Sgt.Zim: Snapper Carr: *reads article*

I feel dumber for having read that pile of shiat.


You probably are. I suggest locking yourself away and listening to Frank Zappa for a few hours to clear your head.
 
2013-07-15 07:56:15 PM  

epoch_destroi: Okay, that image is farking disgusting. Let's just encourage men to fake interest in one of the few bastions of women's athletics so that they can ToUcH BoObZzZ.

disgusting.


Might wanna wipe that sand out of your vagina there,Francis.
 
2013-07-15 07:58:10 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

So he gave us this wonderful cock and denounces us for enjoying it. God sounds kind of like a knob.

Anyway, I don't serve my cock, my cock serves me. And my lady.


Do you wash it? Then you serve your cock. You're gonna have to serve somebody (part).
 
2013-07-15 07:58:49 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


The sin of Soddom wasn't the gayness, but the whole idea of raping the visitors.

"Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door. But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it."

The wickedness is less about the "relations" that they weren't upon having, but the capriciousness and the rudeness to guests. Fathers, owned their daughters, so offering up the girls was something he could do, offering up grown men, that's a whole different kettle of fish, at the time. You don't just toss out guests to a rape mob, ESPECIALLY if said guests are there to judge the city on its merits as a town deserving to be struck from the Earth. Then again, the Bible is fairly strong, including in Leviticus on the treatment of guests to your lands.

What astounds me, are of all the things that the Bible condemns, homosexuality is just one thing, of many, that folks seem to take way out of context. When, there are so very many things that the Bible considers, especially Leviticus, as being REALLY bad. Take Leviticus, just as the example, since THAT one seems to be the IMPORTANT book, and the hippy dippy crap about some kid from Nazareth is just so much Newage junk...

1.       Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11)
Not a huge problem nowadays.

2.       Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13)
Again, not a huge deal to most Christian churches.

3.       Eating fat (3:17)
Southern cuisine is in trouble

4.       Eating blood (3:17)
German cuisine is in trouble.

5.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've witnessed (5:1)
Congress is in trouble.

6.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've been told about (5:1)
Congress is REALLY in trouble

7.       Touching an unclean animal (5:2)
Hope you don't like pork...

8.       Carelessly making an oath (5:4)
Again, Congress is REALLY in trouble

9.       Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2)
HOAs are against God...

10.   Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3)
Much of America is DOOMED...

11.   Bringing unauthorized fire before God (10:1)
The candle trade for saints is apparently DOOOOOOM!

12.   Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6)
Hipsters, teens, and much of Hollywood is DOOOOOMED!

13.   Tearing your clothes (10:6)
Wrasslin' is the work of the Debbil

14.   Drinking alcohol in holy places (10:9)
Catholics, we're looking right at you....

15.   Eating an animal which doesn't both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7)
Rib joints are the work of the Debbil...

16.   Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
Hope you aren't a fan of football...

17.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12)
Red Lobster is the work of the Debbil...

18.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19)
In fairness, this means that Newage folks are DOOOOOMED!

19.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22)
Cicadas may be out.

20.   Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (11:27)
Roof rabbit may have doomed the entire Greatest Generation...

21.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29)
Hope you haven't had gator bites...

22.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42)
Rattlesnake BBQ is RIGHT out...

23.   Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4)
Hope you aren't having that Christening too early, you naughty folks...

24.   Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5)
See the above, but double time for the girlchil'run...

25.   Having sex with your mother (18:7)
Which is not a bad rule to have, but let's face it, this rule pretty much takes out a good section of 90s day time TV

26.   Having sex with your father's wife (18:8)
Not a bad rule either, but see the above section on reality TV...

27.   Having sex with your sister (18:9)
This one is going to have Kentucky and good sections of the South, and Maine in trouble...

28.   Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)
Not a bad rule at all, and...ewww

29.  Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)
See the earlier section on day time TV...

30.   Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13)
Again, see the section on day time TV...

31.   Having sex with your uncle's wife (18:14)
Man, Maury would be screwed if we damn everyone for this...

32.   Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15)
Maury may have sent a brazillion folks to Hell for this...

33.   Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16)
Congress may be in trouble here too...

34.   Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17)
Alan Clarke and Maury are soooo screwed on this.

35.   Marrying your wife's sister while your wife still lives (18:18)
Man, day time TV is just rife with sinfulness. Should we let children watch this smut?

36.   Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19)
Redwings. Apparently, always a bad idea...

37.   Having sex with your neighbour's wife (18:20)
Congress, and a fair amount of middle America is sooooo boned...

38.   Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)
In fairness, I'm all for religious freedom, but this seems like a good, commonsense rule.

39.   Having sex with a man "as one does with a woman" (18:22)
There it is. THIS apparently is THE important one.

40.   Having sex with an animal (18:23)
The Scots apparently have generations of sending kindling to Hell...

41.   Making idols or "metal gods" (19:4)
Catholics, you may be in some trouble here...

42.   Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9)
Yup. We're supposed to leave stuff for the poor and destitute to glean from the fields...

43.   Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10)
Factory farming is the work of the Debbil...

44.   Stealing (19:11)
Congress and much of the legal system is so screwed...

45.   Lying (19:11)
Is there anything Congress CAN do then?

46.   Swearing falsely on God's name (19:12)
Pat Robertson and Congress apparently makes Jehovah wroth...

47.   Defrauding your neighbor (19:13)
Real estate and much of America is boned. You'll note how wroth folks are about this one, while being ghey is just the work of the Debbil...

48.   Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (19:13)
Paychecks are the work of the Debbil...

49.   Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14)
God is hard on douchebags...

50.   Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15)
Congress in both houses are boned...

51.   Spreading slander (19:16)
As are the tabloids...

52.   Doing anything to endanger a neighbour's life (19:16)
Most of America and the "here, hold my beer" crowd is screwed...

53.   Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)
Congress...you are sooooooooo going ALL of you to Hell...

54.   Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)
Walmart, Sears, and Target. Agents of Satan...

55.   Cross-breeding animals (19:19)
God IS against GMO husbandry...

56.   Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)
Put down the basil and the tomatoes. I don't care if they DO complement one another's growth, it's BAD!

57.   Sleeping with another man's slave (19:20)
Seriously. Bad form folks. Bad form.

58.   Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23)
The apple industry is the work of the Debbil...

59.   Practicing divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26)
Miss Cleo is the work of the Debbil, and here we have this sin IN OUR PAPERS!

60.   Trimming your beard (19:27)
Look at all the dirty bastiches who do this. LOOK AT THEM!

61.   Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)
The Marines are the work of the Debbil...

62.   Getting tattoos (19:28)
Tramp stamps and memorial tattoos are the work of the Debbil...

63.   Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29)
Daytime TV is SUCH a sinful place...

64.   Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31)
Miss Cleo. Leading a nation into sin and depravity...

65.   Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)
Welp, this one seems right out today...

66.   Mistreating foreigners - "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born"  (19:33-34)
Guess that means we can stop those Oathkeepers and Sheriff Joe from being mean to the immigrants then, right? Border fences are the Debbil's chopsticks I guess...

67.   Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36)
My industry is boned as a whole, as is pretty much most of the oil industry as well...

68.   Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9)
Maury and the rest could have made a few bucks by televising the stonings though...

69.   Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13)
Odd, that you don't see more folks incensed by this...

70.   Entering a place where there's a dead body as a priest (21:11)
Which pretty much means that all our chaplains are boned.

71.   Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28)
And in fairness, it's rude too. Eating mama and her babies is just greedy...

72.   Working on the Sabbath (23:3)
Sadly, this means no liquor stores open on Saturday or Sunday...

73.   Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)
Man, we are going to need a LOT of stones. Just in the State legislatures, and let's not even get onto Congress...

74.   Inflicting an injury; killing someone else's animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22)
This WOULD end cockfighting and dogfighting quick though...

75.   Selling land permanently (25:23)
Odd, you don't see more protests and signs around real estate agencies...

76.   Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42)
So, I guess we should be OK with slaves again?
 
2013-07-15 08:02:24 PM  

ReverendJynxed: HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?

Progays are tasty.


Delicious delicious progays...
 
2013-07-15 08:05:53 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


I would wonder why you still consider yourself catholic.
 
2013-07-15 08:07:51 PM  

megarian: ReverendJynxed: HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?

Progays are tasty.

Delicious delicious progays...


It's true progays can be very yum : )
 
2013-07-15 08:08:28 PM  
hubiestubert:
Very good point.  Though you missed a few hundred more laws but essentially they are similar to those.
 
2013-07-15 08:08:36 PM  

jonny_q: Coco LaFemme: Because let's face it, if you're anti-gay rights, you hate gays. There's no way to intelligently defend a stance that assumes homosexuals should be afforded second-class citizen status to heterosexuals unless you hate homosexuals.

This is just plain not true. I don't really want to argue the finer points of it, and I don't have a problem with people being for or against gay marriage. By saying that those against gay marriage logically must hate guys, you have a bad starting point for discussion, because there is plenty of room for A to be true and B to be false.


Prove it.  Give the case for someone who is opposed to gay marriage yet does not feel any animosity towards gays whatsoever.

I'm sorry, but "this is just plain not true, but I don't really want to argue the finer points of it" isn't a convincing argument, and we've reached the point, like it or not, where you have to defend the position if you expect anyone (who isn't themself opposed to gay rights already) to take it seriously.

/with apologies to those who find the intensive pronoun "themself" grating
//And yes, I do mean intensive, not reflexive.
 
2013-07-15 08:09:17 PM  

manimal2878: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I would wonder why you still consider yourself catholic.


True most places have churches that are more open and accepting, I'm guessing family though.
 
2013-07-15 08:10:54 PM  
Lutrasamillis:"Therein lies the beauty of ancient scripture. Since most Christians don't read the bible, it becomes relatively simple for even a stupid man to cherry-pick passages to fit the current political climate, pontificate with divine authority, and acquire sub-believers who will take their sexual hysteria seriously."

Same as anti-Theists who want to hold the whole thing in contempt without giving what is actually written any study other than what can be used to support a preconceived bias.
It's your duty as a believer and recommended for non-believers to read so you won't be deceived.
 
2013-07-15 08:11:24 PM  

hubiestubert: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

The sin of Soddom wasn't the gayness, but the whole idea of raping the visitors.

"Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door. But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it."

The wickedness is less about the "relations" that they weren't upon having, but the capriciousness and the rudeness to guests. Fathers, owned their daughters, so offering up the girls was something he could do, offering up grown men, that's a whole different kettle of fish, at the time. You don't just toss out guests to a rape mob, ESPECIALLY if said guests are there to judge the city on its merits as a town deserving to be struck from the Earth. Then again, the Bible is fairly strong, including in Leviticus on the treatment of guests to your lands.

What astounds me, are of all the things that the Bible condemns, homosexuality is just one thing, of many, that folks seem to take way out of context. When, there are so very many things that the Bible considers, especially Leviticus, as being REALLY bad. Take Leviticus, just as the example, since THAT one seems to be the IMPORTANT book, and the hippy dippy crap about some kid from Nazareth is just so much Newage junk...

1.       Burning any yeast or honey in offerings to God (2:11)
Not a huge problem nowadays.

2.       Failing to include salt in offerings to God (2:13)
Again, not a huge deal to most Christian churches.

3.       Eating fat (3:17)
Southern cuisine is in trouble

4.       Eating blood (3:17)
German cuisine is in trouble.

5.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've witnessed (5:1)
Congress is in trouble.

6.       Failing to testify against any wrongdoing you've been told about (5:1)
Congress is REALLY in trouble

7.       Touching an unclean animal (5:2)
Hope you don't like pork...

8.       Carelessly making an oath (5:4)
Again, Congress is REALLY in trouble

9.       Deceiving a neighbour about something trusted to them (6:2)
HOAs are against God...

10.   Finding lost property and lying about it (6:3)
Much of America is DOOMED...

11.   Bringing unauthorized fire before God (10:1)
The candle trade for saints is apparently DOOOOOOM!

12.   Letting your hair become unkempt (10:6)
Hipsters, teens, and much of Hollywood is DOOOOOMED!

13.   Tearing your clothes (10:6)
Wrasslin' is the work of the Debbil

14.   Drinking alcohol in holy places (10:9)
Catholics, we're looking right at you....

15.   Eating an animal which doesn't both chew cud and has a divided hoof (cf: camel, rabbit, pig) (11:4-7)
Rib joints are the work of the Debbil...

16.   Touching the carcass of any of the above (11:8)
Hope you aren't a fan of football...

17.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any seafood without fins or scales (11:10-12)
Red Lobster is the work of the Debbil...

18.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - eagle, the vulture, the black vulture, the red kite, any kind of black kite, any kind of raven, the horned owl, the screech owl, the gull, any kind of hawk, the little owl, the cormorant, the great owl, the white owl, the desert owl, the osprey, the stork, any kind of heron, the hoopoe and the bat. (11:13-19)
In fairness, this means that Newage folks are DOOOOOMED!

19.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - flying insects with four legs, unless those legs are jointed (11:20-22)
Cicadas may be out.

20.   Eating any animal which walks on all four and has paws (11:27)
Roof rabbit may have doomed the entire Greatest Generation...

21.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - the weasel, the rat, any kind of great lizard, the gecko, the monitor lizard, the wall lizard, the skink and the chameleon (11:29)
Hope you haven't had gator bites...

22.   Eating - or touching the carcass of - any creature which crawls on many legs, or its belly (11:41-42)
Rattlesnake BBQ is RIGHT out...

23.   Going to church within 33 days after giving birth to a boy (12:4)
Hope you aren't having that Christening too early, you naughty folks...

24.   Going to church within 66 days after giving birth to a girl (12:5)
See the above, but double time for the girlchil'run...

25.   Having sex with your mother (18:7)
Which is not a bad rule to have, but let's face it, this rule pretty much takes out a good section of 90s day time TV

26.   Having sex with your father's wife (18:8)
Not a bad rule either, but see the above section on reality TV...

27.   Having sex with your sister (18:9)
This one is going to have Kentucky and good sections of the South, and Maine in trouble...

28.   Having sex with your granddaughter (18:10)
Not a bad rule at all, and...ewww

29.  Having sex with your half-sister (18:11)
See the earlier section on day time TV...

30.   Having sex with your biological aunt (18:12-13)
Again, see the section on day time TV...

31.   Having sex with your uncle's wife (18:14)
Man, Maury would be screwed if we damn everyone for this...

32.   Having sex with your daughter-in-law (18:15)
Maury may have sent a brazillion folks to Hell for this...

33.   Having sex with your sister-in-law (18:16)
Congress may be in trouble here too...

34.   Having sex with a woman and also having sex with her daughter or granddaughter (18:17)
Alan Clarke and Maury are soooo screwed on this.

35.   Marrying your wife's sister while your wife still lives (18:18)
Man, day time TV is just rife with sinfulness. Should we let children watch this smut?

36.   Having sex with a woman during her period (18:19)
Redwings. Apparently, always a bad idea...

37.   Having sex with your neighbour's wife (18:20)
Congress, and a fair amount of middle America is sooooo boned...

38.   Giving your children to be sacrificed to Molek (18:21)
In fairness, I'm all for religious freedom, but this seems like a good, commonsense rule.

39.   Having sex with a man "as one does with a woman" (18:22)
There it is. THIS apparently is THE important one.

40.   Having sex with an animal (18:23)
The Scots apparently have generations of sending kindling to Hell...

41.   Making idols or "metal gods" (19:4)
Catholics, you may be in some trouble here...

42.   Reaping to the very edges of a field (19:9)
Yup. We're supposed to leave stuff for the poor and destitute to glean from the fields...

43.   Picking up grapes that have fallen in your vineyard (19:10)
Factory farming is the work of the Debbil...

44.   Stealing (19:11)
Congress and much of the legal system is so screwed...

45.   Lying (19:11)
Is there anything Congress CAN do then?

46.   Swearing falsely on God's name (19:12)
Pat Robertson and Congress apparently makes Jehovah wroth...

47.   Defrauding your neighbor (19:13)
Real estate and much of America is boned. You'll note how wroth folks are about this one, while being ghey is just the work of the Debbil...

48.   Holding back the wages of an employee overnight (19:13)
Paychecks are the work of the Debbil...

49.   Cursing the deaf or abusing the blind (19:14)
God is hard on douchebags...

50.   Perverting justice, showing partiality to either the poor or the rich (19:15)
Congress in both houses are boned...

51.   Spreading slander (19:16)
As are the tabloids...

52.   Doing anything to endanger a neighbour's life (19:16)
Most of America and the "here, hold my beer" crowd is screwed...

53.   Seeking revenge or bearing a grudge (19:18)
Congress...you are sooooooooo going ALL of you to Hell...

54.   Mixing fabrics in clothing (19:19)
Walmart, Sears, and Target. Agents of Satan...

55.   Cross-breeding animals (19:19)
God IS against GMO husbandry...

56.   Planting different seeds in the same field (19:19)
Put down the basil and the tomatoes. I don't care if they DO complement one another's growth, it's BAD!

57.   Sleeping with another man's slave (19:20)
Seriously. Bad form folks. Bad form.

58.   Eating fruit from a tree within four years of planting it (19:23)
The apple industry is the work of the Debbil...

59.   Practicing divination or seeking omens (tut, tut astrology) (19:26)
Miss Cleo is the work of the Debbil, and here we have this sin IN OUR PAPERS!

60.   Trimming your beard (19:27)
Look at all the dirty bastiches who do this. LOOK AT THEM!

61.   Cutting your hair at the sides (19:27)
The Marines are the work of the Debbil...

62.   Getting tattoos (19:28)
Tramp stamps and memorial tattoos are the work of the Debbil...

63.   Making your daughter prostitute herself (19:29)
Daytime TV is SUCH a sinful place...

64.   Turning to mediums or spiritualists (19:31)
Miss Cleo. Leading a nation into sin and depravity...

65.   Not standing in the presence of the elderly (19:32)
Welp, this one seems right out today...

66.   Mistreating foreigners - "the foreigner residing among you must be treated as your native-born"  (19:33-34)
Guess that means we can stop those Oathkeepers and Sheriff Joe from being mean to the immigrants then, right? Border fences are the Debbil's chopsticks I guess...

67.   Using dishonest weights and scales (19:35-36)
My industry is boned as a whole, as is pretty much most of the oil industry as well...

68.   Cursing your father or mother (punishable by death) (20:9)
Maury and the rest could have made a few bucks by televising the stonings though...

69.   Marrying a prostitute, divorcee or widow if you are a priest (21:7,13)
Odd, that you don't see more folks incensed by this...

70.   Entering a place where there's a dead body as a priest (21:11)
Which pretty much means that all our chaplains are boned.

71.   Slaughtering a cow/sheep and its young on the same day (22:28)
And in fairness, it's rude too. Eating mama and her babies is just greedy...

72.   Working on the Sabbath (23:3)
Sadly, this means no liquor stores open on Saturday or Sunday...

73.   Blasphemy (punishable by stoning to death) (24:14)
Man, we are going to need a LOT of stones. Just in the State legislatures, and let's not even get onto Congress...

74.   Inflicting an injury; killing someone else's animal; killing a person must be punished in kind (24:17-22)
This WOULD end cockfighting and dogfighting quick though...

75.   Selling land permanently (25:23)
Odd, you don't see more protests and signs around real estate agencies...

76.   Selling an Israelite as a slave (foreigners are fine) (25:42)
So, I guess we should be OK with slaves again?


That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.
 
2013-07-15 08:11:24 PM  

hubiestubert: Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.

The sin of Soddom wasn't the gayness, but the whole idea of raping the visitors.

"Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; and they called to Lot and said to him, "Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them." But Lot went out to them at the doorway, and shut the door behind him, and said, "Please, my brothers, do not act wickedly. Now behold, I have two daughters who have not had relations with man; please let me bring them out to you, and do to them whatever you like; only do nothing to these men, inasmuch as they have come under the shelter of my roof." But they said, "Stand aside." Furthermore, they said, "This one came in as an alien, and already he is acting like a judge; now we will treat you worse than them." So they pressed hard against Lot and came near to break the door. But the men reached out their hands and brought Lot into the house with them, and shut the door. And they struck the men who were at the doorway of the house with blindness, both small and great, so that they wearied themselves trying to find the doorway. Then the men said to Lot, "Whom else have you here? A son-in-law, and your sons, and your daughters, and whomever you have in the city, bring them out of the place; for we are about to destroy this place, because their outcry has become so great before the Lord that the Lord has sent us to destroy it."

The wickedness is less about the "relations" that they weren't upon having, but the capriciousness and the rudeness to guests. Fathers, owned their daughters, so offering up the girls was ...


Epic post is epic.

i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-15 08:12:08 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: ReverendJynxed: HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?

Progays are tasty.

Delicious delicious progays...

It's true progays can be very yum : )


Well...yeah. Oh. OH! Yeah, them, too ;)
 
2013-07-15 08:12:13 PM  
How do I score some of that sweet pro-gay money? Does being an atheist disqualify me?
 
2013-07-15 08:12:44 PM  

TopoGigo: letrole: the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!

Lobster is my surname, you ass.


Nice!

I wonder, though, do you suppose it's just more trolling when he talks about "strawman arguments," or is "strawman" being redefined to mean "an argument I don't like"?

Also, it's not lobster, it's shrimp, silly troll people!
 
2013-07-15 08:17:08 PM  

rev. dave: hubiestubert:
Very good point.  Though you missed a few hundred more laws but essentially they are similar to those.


Considering how much time and effort is put into condemning gays, you'd think more folks would join this courageous young woman..

lh5.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-07-15 08:18:06 PM  
They were the type of people who voted for Hubert Humphrey...and they killed Jesus!
 
2013-07-15 08:19:44 PM  

letrole: full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk


Keith Morris, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Simmons walk into a bar...
 
2013-07-15 08:23:13 PM  

Ed Grubermann: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

Some of us have a problem with people who support kiddie-diddlers.


According to DoE research, pedophilia and associated cover ups are considerably worse in California's public schools than they ever were in the Catholic Church. Therefore, anyone who has not chosen to move away from California, and pays state taxes, supports kiddie-diddlers.
 
2013-07-15 08:23:37 PM  

megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.


Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.

/BTW been a while girl : )
 
2013-07-15 08:27:15 PM  

ciberido: TopoGigo: letrole: the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!

Lobster is my surname, you ass.

Nice!

I wonder, though, do you suppose it's just more trolling when he talks about "strawman arguments," or is "strawman" being redefined to mean "an argument I don't like"?

Also, it's not lobster, it's shrimp, silly troll people!


They're both crustaceans and wasn't the law against bottom feeders? It's been awhile but I know Southern Baptist that love their catfish.
 
2013-07-15 08:34:02 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: They're both crustaceans and wasn't the law against bottom feeders? It's been awhile but I know Southern Baptist that love their catfish.


Hell, I don't know any that don't.
 
2013-07-15 08:34:54 PM  

factoryconnection: I can only assume that this is going green on the Main Page because some people need to go back to school with their trolling.

This guy... this guy can troll.


So can a lot of farkers with a fark axe to grind.
 
2013-07-15 08:35:55 PM  

ten foiled hats: letrole: full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

Keith Morris, Christopher Hitchens, and Richard Simmons walk into a bar...


It's a pity when folks of faith aren't knee jerking asshats who hate folks for the folks that they love. That is the REAL lesson here. If you want to be someone who is known for your faith, it's about what you hate, not what you love. Anything else, and you're just another atheist, even if you are an adherent to a faith. I'm so glad that folks are here to ifrom us about what we ought to be.

Of course, there was that pesky Matthew...

7Judge not, that ye be not judged.
2For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
3And why beholdest thou the mote that is in thy brother's eye, but considerest not the beam that is in thine own eye?
4Or how wilt thou say to thy brother, Let me pull out the mote out of thine eye; and, behold, a beam is in thine own eye?
5Thou hypocrite, first cast out the beam out of thine own eye; and then shalt thou see clearly to cast out the mote out of thy brother's eye.
 
2013-07-15 08:36:18 PM  
Question: Why can't Christian deal with homosexuality like they deal with the whole being stoned to death for eating shellfish on the wrong day thing, by completely ignoring it?

These people are farking Biblical cherry pickers. There are tons of completely stupid laws in the Bible that not even the most ardent believer follows. Its almost as if these people refer to the Bible when they want to find some justification for their own personal prejudices and hang-up, but no, that can't be it.

/Looks forward to the day where superstition isn't the primary belief system of a majority of Americans
 
2013-07-15 08:37:28 PM  

tinfoil-hat maggie: megarian: That was detailed, informative, and just plain fun. Thanks.

Hubie may be one of the smartest most well reasoned people I know on fark, and that's no joke.


Aw shucks. Now I'mma blush...
 
2013-07-15 08:38:22 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: So they're pushing "progay" as a word?


It's apparently some kind of insult.
 
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