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2013-07-15 06:29:11 PM  

Coco LaFemme: I'm an atheist, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone.


Luke 14:26  If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.

That is the J Man speaking directly
 
2013-07-15 06:30:03 PM  
Well come on, who doesn't keep at LEAST a House-homo to tend to the decor and clothing selections? I'd be lost without Sven!
 
Ant
2013-07-15 06:30:41 PM  
Ow! I just sprained my brain trying to do the mental contortions necessary to understand this.
 
2013-07-15 06:31:57 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


Anyone who says that is just a jerk or a troll or both.
 
2013-07-15 06:32:15 PM  

Deathfrogg: I think perhaps it is the potential for "giant spasms" being what scares him most about being associated with gay folks.


Why? There's a great deal of money in giant spasms. Religion, for instance.
 
2013-07-15 06:32:23 PM  
I'm going to skip straight past outrage and explanation on why this is retarded and just move on to "patting the special person on the head". He clearly can't help being that stupid.
 
2013-07-15 06:32:26 PM  

Pincy: So if you support equal rights for everyone then you are "pro-gay"?  I'm not even sure what "pro-gay" is?  Am I supposed to be rooting for them or something?  "Gooooooooo Gay Team!"


memez.s3.amazonaws.com
 
2013-07-15 06:32:54 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.
 
2013-07-15 06:35:01 PM  

FizixJunkee: Pincy: So if you support equal rights for everyone then you are "pro-gay"?  I'm not even sure what "pro-gay" is?  Am I supposed to be rooting for them or something?  "Gooooooooo Gay Team!"

[memez.s3.amazonaws.com image 498x737]


Okay, that image is farking disgusting. Let's just encourage men to fake interest in one of the few bastions of women's athletics so that they can ToUcH BoObZzZ.

disgusting.
 
2013-07-15 06:35:14 PM  
Broseph 12: 27  Douche not unto others, lest thou be spoken of as a douche.  Be cool to all.

Or a favorite of mine from Bill S. Preston, Esquire and Ted Theodore Logan:  Be excellent to each other.  And party on dudes.

/article's logic makes as much sense as quoting Bill and Ted
 
2013-07-15 06:37:02 PM  

cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"


How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?
 
2013-07-15 06:37:27 PM  

phalamir: Coco LaFemme: I'm an atheist, but I'm pretty sure Jesus never told his followers to hate anyone.

Luke 14:26  If anyone comes to me and does not hate father and mother, wife and children, brothers and sisters-yes, even their own life-such a person cannot be my disciple.

That is the J Man speaking directly


Again, to understand ANYTHING in the Bible properly, you have to understand its historic and social context:

"But this fails to recognize the background to Jesus' words in Jewish literature. Jesus is not encouraging hate. Rather, he is saying that social networks will be torn apart because of his words and actions--as the end results of the people's sin, not because his goal is dissension. "

For full explanation, see this article (from whence the above quote came): http://www.jewsforjesus.org/answers/jesus/family
 
2013-07-15 06:37:46 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.


if anything, I'm going back to the core values Catholicism has taught me throughout the years. For me, it gives me peace going to mass. I want to be good to others, especially those going through hard times.
 
2013-07-15 06:38:52 PM  
"Why the hell are you quoting the Bible when discussing modern evangelical worldviews?!"

Especially when that passage was directed at the time to the general policies of the time.
Many assumed Christ was coming to start an armed insurrection, instead He preached peace.
The above passage makes more sense when you include this.
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."
Remember Christ was so meek, He never opposed his executioners, even healing one.
As for pro-gay rights, Christ never said a word against the gays, keep that in mind before someone comes in quoting Leviticus or Paul.
/The Bible, book of many chapters by different authors.
//try to read it in context of who said what, when.
 
2013-07-15 06:40:24 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.


I'm betting it's the younger nuns that do it for them.
 
2013-07-15 06:40:52 PM  

FizixJunkee: Pincy: So if you support equal rights for everyone then you are "pro-gay"?  I'm not even sure what "pro-gay" is?  Am I supposed to be rooting for them or something?  "Gooooooooo Gay Team!"

[memez.s3.amazonaws.com image 498x737]


not supporting 4th woman on boner - clearly gay
 
2013-07-15 06:41:54 PM  

codergirl42: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?


Maybe he only gives money that supports local programs within his diocese or parish that don't conflict with his values.

Not everyone in the Catholic church is like what you stated. Unfortunately, a lot of those in the old boys' club in the higher positions of power are. But things are changing, albeit slowly.
 
2013-07-15 06:42:23 PM  
www.mockpaperscissors.com
 
2013-07-15 06:42:35 PM  

Lee451: The Retarded is strong in this article.


Smells a lot more like Freudian projection than stupidity to me.  I was all prepared to get my outrage on, but really, this guy is so pathetic I actually giggled.

I mean, sure homophobia is bad, but this is "eat da poo-poo"-level homophobia.  It's almost cute.
 
2013-07-15 06:42:41 PM  
i.imgur.com

/Baby steps y'all
 
2013-07-15 06:43:36 PM  
the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!
 
2013-07-15 06:46:25 PM  

42_42_42: codergirl42: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?

Maybe he only gives money that supports local programs within his diocese or parish that don't conflict with his values.

Not everyone in the Catholic church is like what you stated. Unfortunately, a lot of those in the old boys' club in the higher positions of power are. But things are changing, albeit slowly.


at the end of the day, it shouldn't matter what label you give yourself, FFS. Just make your life and others a better place and actually "do something" not sit behind a monitor and proclaim to be morally superior, without doing anything.
 
2013-07-15 06:46:50 PM  

Kurmudgeon: Especially when that passage was directed at the time to the general policies of the time.
Many assumed Christ was coming to start an armed insurrection, instead He preached peace.
The above passage makes more sense when you include this.
"Blessed are the meek: for they shall inherit the earth."
Remember Christ was so meek, He never opposed his executioners, even healing one.
As for pro-gay rights, Christ never said a word against the gays, keep that in mind before someone comes in quoting Leviticus or Paul.
/The Bible, book of many chapters by different authors.
//try to read it in context of who said what, when.


Therein lies the beauty of ancient scripture. Since most Christians don't read the bible, it becomes relatively simple for even a stupid man to cherry-pick passages to fit the current political climate, pontificate with divine authority, and acquire sub-believers who will take their sexual hysteria seriously.
 
2013-07-15 06:47:12 PM  

Sgt Otter: FTA: But there exists no such financial benefit for people who correctly interpret scripture in reference to homosexual practices. No one who believes, teaches and upholds the sexual standards of the bible stands to benefit financially from doing so.

[www.minnpost.com image 640x468]

Marcus Bachmann's "gay therapy clinic" has collected over $100,000 in Medicaid payments since it opened a few years ago.


www.fairfaxunderground.com
 
2013-07-15 06:49:37 PM  

Because People in power are Stupid: Many Christians were slave owners and opposed suffrage. So the trolly headline fails unless both conditions are  both anecessary and asufficient condition for opposing those things.


Ayup. There's a helluva lot more stuff in the bible about slavery than there is about homosexuality.
 
2013-07-15 06:49:43 PM  

Pincy: So if you support equal rights for everyone then you are "pro-gay"?  I'm not even sure what "pro-gay" is?  Am I supposed to be rooting for them or something?  "Gooooooooo Gay Team!"




I hate aleprechaunists.
 
2013-07-15 06:51:09 PM  

fusillade762: Because People in power are Stupid: Many Christians were slave owners and opposed suffrage. So the trolly headline fails unless both conditions are  both anecessary and asufficient condition for opposing those things.

Ayup. There's a helluva lot more stuff in the bible about slavery than there is about homosexuality.


Then thou shalt take an awl, and thrust it through his ear unto the door, and he shall be thy servant for ever. And also unto thy maidservant thou shalt do likewise.
Deuteronomy
 
2013-07-15 06:51:27 PM  

Mambo Bananapatch: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.


you can be a member of the KKK and still like some black folks or have a jewish friend. life isn't 100% or nothing.
 
2013-07-15 06:51:30 PM  
www.logcabin.org


Gay rights supporters/republican
 
2013-07-15 06:51:48 PM  
How long until this ExGay gets caught farking a dude? The lady doth protest too much.....
 
2013-07-15 06:52:22 PM  

cookiefleck: 42_42_42: codergirl42: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?

Maybe he only gives money that supports local programs within his diocese or parish that don't conflict with his values.

Not everyone in the Catholic church is like what you stated. Unfortunately, a lot of those in the old boys' club in the higher positions of power are. But things are changing, albeit slowly.

at the end of the day, it shouldn't matter what label you give yourself, FFS. Just make your life and others a better place and actually "do something" not sit behind a monitor and proclaim to be morally superior, without doing anything.


At the same time, if the label you choose for yourself is one that is already associated with certain ways of thinking, you can't honestly be that shocked when people lump the entire shebang together. Nobody cares about the nuance.
 
2013-07-15 06:53:44 PM  

KrispyKritter: Mambo Bananapatch: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.

you can be a member of the KKK and still like some black folks or have a jewish friend. life isn't 100% or nothing.


Yes, but you can't be surprised when you get lumped in with the parts of the KKK who hate all black folks and don't have that Jewish friend. You chose a label associated with those things.
 
2013-07-15 06:55:33 PM  

Coco LaFemme: Because let's face it, if you're anti-gay rights, you hate gays. There's no way to intelligently defend a stance that assumes homosexuals should be afforded second-class citizen status to heterosexuals unless you hate homosexuals.


This is just plain not true. I don't really want to argue the finer points of it, and I don't have a problem with people being for or against gay marriage. By saying that those against gay marriage logically must hate guys, you have a bad starting point for discussion, because there is plenty of room for A to be true and B to be false.
 
2013-07-15 06:56:54 PM  

jonny_q: Coco LaFemme: Because let's face it, if you're anti-gay rights, you hate gays. There's no way to intelligently defend a stance that assumes homosexuals should be afforded second-class citizen status to heterosexuals unless you hate homosexuals.

This is just plain not true. I don't really want to argue the finer points of it, and I don't have a problem with people being for or against gay marriage. By saying that those against gay marriage logically must hate guys, you have a bad starting point for discussion, because there is plenty of room for A to be true and B to be false.


Go on...
 
2013-07-15 06:57:02 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: cookiefleck: 42_42_42: codergirl42: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?

Maybe he only gives money that supports local programs within his diocese or parish that don't conflict with his values.

Not everyone in the Catholic church is like what you stated. Unfortunately, a lot of those in the old boys' club in the higher positions of power are. But things are changing, albeit slowly.

at the end of the day, it shouldn't matter what label you give yourself, FFS. Just make your life and others a better place and actually "do something" not sit behind a monitor and proclaim to be morally superior, without doing anything.

At the same time, if the label you choose for yourself is one that is already associated with certain ways of thinking, you can't honestly be that shocked when people lump the entire shebang together. Nobody cares about the nuance.


If you choose to prop up a belief system that supports the things I listed above, even if you do not agree you are part of the problem.
 
2013-07-15 06:59:06 PM  
letrole: Tthe good thing about all of the Oold Ttestament strawmanmen arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk .

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!


Also, they work pretty well at making hypocrites out of the most sanctimonious people on the planet.
 
2013-07-15 07:00:29 PM  

letrole: the good thing about all the old testament strawman arguments is that they can be used to mop up the spooge from the full-tilt homosexual-atheist circle-jerk

/ b-b-but lobster, answer that!


Lobster is my surname, you ass.
 
2013-07-15 07:03:03 PM  
Wow, that's like watching two contortionists play Twister and do the limbo at the same time.
 
2013-07-15 07:03:48 PM  
stickerish.com
 
2013-07-15 07:08:27 PM  
You know who else had gays in their national organization?
 
2013-07-15 07:13:52 PM  
So they're pushing "progay" as a word?
 
2013-07-15 07:17:25 PM  
Lutrasimilis: strawmanmen arguments
Also, they work pretty well at making hypocrites out of the most sanctimonious people on the planet.


The plural of 'strawman argument' is 'strawman arguments'. It is an established rule of the internet that spelling flames usually result in the flamer looking like a twat.

Sanctimonius, indeed.
 
2013-07-15 07:18:05 PM  

The My Little Pony Killer: KrispyKritter: Mambo Bananapatch: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

I imagine you'd get more grief in a Catholic forum than you would in this one. Catholics aren't supposed to be pro-choice or gay-friendly. Just ask the Holy Father.

Mind you, if you're one of those maverick Catholics who wants to reform the institution, more power to you. Otherwise, why be a Catholic? I don't mean to be snarky, I am genuinely curious about people who reject Catholic values but want to be Catholics.

you can be a member of the KKK and still like some black folks or have a jewish friend. life isn't 100% or nothing.

Yes, but you can't be surprised when you get lumped in with the parts of the KKK who hate all black folks and don't have that Jewish friend. You chose a label associated with those things.


I can't imagine many Catholics getting lumped in with the Klan.
 
2013-07-15 07:18:58 PM  

codergirl42: The My Little Pony Killer: cookiefleck: 42_42_42: codergirl42: cookiefleck: In my experience, here and on other online forums, once I've admitted to people that, yes I'm Catholic but am pro choice, supporting of the LGBTQ community, I get the whole "well, you can't be a good person, even though you donate time and money to those wanting to advance rights for all, just because you're Catholic"

How do you reconcile those beliefs if you also give money to the catholic church? Do you just like to donate to pedophile-protecting, woman-hating anti-choice, anti-gay bigots while also donating to LGBTQ community and pro-choice organizations?   Not sure how you can justify that, does it work like carbon offsets?

Maybe he only gives money that supports local programs within his diocese or parish that don't conflict with his values.

Not everyone in the Catholic church is like what you stated. Unfortunately, a lot of those in the old boys' club in the higher positions of power are. But things are changing, albeit slowly.

at the end of the day, it shouldn't matter what label you give yourself, FFS. Just make your life and others a better place and actually "do something" not sit behind a monitor and proclaim to be morally superior, without doing anything.

At the same time, if the label you choose for yourself is one that is already associated with certain ways of thinking, you can't honestly be that shocked when people lump the entire shebang together. Nobody cares about the nuance.

If you choose to prop up a belief system that supports the things I listed above, even if you do not agree you are part of the problem.


I can understand that, I mean there are LGBT friendly churches that don't give money to groups that support hate and bigotry. They could join one of those if they wanna hold on to their faith or whatever.

This was an interesting documentary BTW on Netflix
www.scncucc.org
 
2013-07-15 07:21:52 PM  
"Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.
 
2013-07-15 07:26:16 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


I hope this is a joke. Damn Poe's law.
 
2013-07-15 07:26:44 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


That's not a difficult decision at all. It's attached to me, and Jesus forgives.
 
2013-07-15 07:28:39 PM  

ALL GIRLS AGREE TO PULL PANTIES DOWN: Brick-House: Looking how the female vote slanted toward BOB, I'm still opposed to women coating.

Women have always been a fan of Battery-Operated Boyfriends.


Gay Boyfriends can be pretty awesome, too.
 
2013-07-15 07:28:53 PM  

Mouser: "Sexual immorality", whether it's adultery, sodomy, fornication, or just spanking it to girly magazines, is a form of idolatry.  It is worship of one's sexuality above the God who created it.

Jesus said a man cannot serve two masters.  You can serve God, or you can serve your cock.  Pick one.


Cock cock cock! I wish all my problems were that easy.
 
2013-07-15 07:30:15 PM  
Guys, guys, calm down it's obviously a satirical site. Just look at this one! http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content /nothing-safe-austin-ruse-upset-h e-had-see-lesbian-food-network
 
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