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2013-07-15 01:10:42 PM  
Should have gone with "The War of Southern Suppression"
 
2013-07-15 01:16:10 PM  
"The War Between [Sets of] The States [Over the Right to Own People as Property as Being an Economic Necessity]"

Too wordy. Since it was an internecine war between citizens of one country, let's just call it a "civil" war instead and save everyone some time.
 
2013-07-15 01:16:28 PM  
Does that mean if the question is "What is a gun?", I can say "What is a rooty-tooty point and shooty?" and still be judged correct?
 
2013-07-15 01:18:47 PM  
.........

*zoot zoot zoot*

The daily double!
 
2013-07-15 01:19:37 PM  
At least it wasn't the War of Northern Aggression.

I would accept War Between the States, as it definitely wasn't very civil, now was it?

I would like to go on Jeopardy and buzz in and say "Is the answer so and so, Alex?"   Just change up the form of the questions, try to throw Trebek off his game.

"If I say "Stephen King," would that be a correct response, Alex?"  Something like that.
 
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2013-07-15 01:20:17 PM  
It wasn't a war between states.  The South wasn't fighting a war against New York and Massachusetts and the rest, it was fighting against the United States of America.

it wasn't states fighting each other, it was some rebels fighting against a nation.
 
2013-07-15 01:20:27 PM  
OMG, who the hell cares?
 
2013-07-15 01:20:28 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: At least it wasn't the War of Northern Aggression.


Which I've never understood. Wasn't it the Confederacy that fired the first shots at Ft. Sumpter?

Shouldn't it be "War of Southern Aggression"?
 
2013-07-15 01:20:29 PM  
Meh, I don't care. If he had said "The war of Northern Aggression" I would have been "Shut the f up!"
 
2013-07-15 01:20:46 PM  
Would also have accepted "The On-Going Civil War" and "The Current GOP Election Strategy".
 
2013-07-15 01:21:15 PM  

neritz: Should have gone with "The War of Southern Suppression Northern Aggression"

 
2013-07-15 01:21:18 PM  
Bovine Scatology, Salon .. that was the War Of Northern Aggression.
 
2013-07-15 01:21:45 PM  
'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.
 
2013-07-15 01:22:21 PM  
I don't really see how "War Between the States" is any more pro-south than "Civil War."  Maybe because Civil War has been loaded up with, you know, the truth of what happened?  Slavery, secession, etc.  And so any other term is less burdened by those truths?

"War of Northern Aggression" obviously is a twist.  But "War Between the States" and "Civil War" sound the same.

FTFA: "the term 'Civil War' is misleading and inexact. The war was not a class struggle, but a sectional combat, having its roots in such complex political, economic, social and psychological elements that it is difficult for historians to agree on all its basic causes."

Civil War means class struggle?  Since when?
 
2013-07-15 01:22:31 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I would like to go on Jeopardy and buzz in and say "Is the answer so and so, Alex?" Just change up the form of the questions, try to throw Trebek off his game.

"If I say "Stephen King," would that be a correct response, Alex?" Something like that.


"What in the consarned name of Sam Hill is the Treaty of Ghent?"
 
2013-07-15 01:22:40 PM  
"The War Between the States" isn't a term extensively used by butthurt neoconfederates.

In other words...

SirEattonHogg: OMG, who the hell cares?

 
2013-07-15 01:22:49 PM  
The Whar 'twixt the Yankees and the Mighty Klan?
 
2013-07-15 01:23:07 PM  
He lost to a Jap.
 
2013-07-15 01:23:21 PM  
"What is the really cool song Guns-n-Roses did?"
 
2013-07-15 01:23:40 PM  
If it's their term for the US Civil War then he's still correct. If French people called the US Civil War "La guerre des enfants terribles ", and the guy said "The war of the terrible children" he would still be technically correct. It doesn't matter what he said so long as some group of people call it that it is thusly a name for it that should be acceptable. With one notable exemption... A wrong answer would have been "The Civil War", as if there was only one.
 
2013-07-15 01:23:41 PM  

StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.


That's still not the right word.
 
2013-07-15 01:24:13 PM  

StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.


That's why it's called the War of Northern Aggression. The south seceded but the north said "fark that shiat, you have all the money and you'll destory our economy"
 
2013-07-15 01:24:48 PM  
I prefer 'A Lost Opportunity To Clean Up The South'. We should have crushed them like we did the Native Americans.
 
2013-07-15 01:26:28 PM  
I saw that episode last week and I was expecting Alex to do his "Oooooh no sorry the we were looking for The. Civil. War. sorrrrrrry"

I have no idea why Saloon is reporting this. Hurr hurr southerners amirite?
 
2013-07-15 01:26:33 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: I would like to go on Jeopardy and buzz in and say "Is the answer so and so, Alex?"   Just change up the form of the questions, try to throw Trebek off his game.

"If I say "Stephen King," would that be a correct response, Alex?"  Something like that.


What I don't get is that you can give an answer in a questioning tone..."Stephen King?" and it's not correct unless you say "who is" in front of it.
 
2013-07-15 01:26:40 PM  

SirEattonHogg: OMG, who the hell cares

enough to post in this thread?
 
2013-07-15 01:26:47 PM  
More to the point, the 'Jeopardy!' champions lately have been as annoying as all get-out.  Ben's only saving grace was that he actually smiled once in a while, in contrast to the mega-douche Andrew before him.
 
2013-07-15 01:26:59 PM  
I prefer "The war of southern treason."
 
2013-07-15 01:27:02 PM  

Dr Dreidel: "The War Between [Sets of] The States [Over the Right to Own People as Property as Being an Economic Necessity]"

Too wordy. Since it was an internecine war between citizens of one country, let's just call it a "civil" war instead and save everyone some time.


Good ol' black history month has ruined history education in this country.

vpb: It wasn't a war between states.  The South wasn't fighting a war against New York and Massachusetts and the rest, it was fighting against the United States of America.

it wasn't states fighting each other, it was some rebels fighting against a nation.


Umm... one was the united states as you said and the other was the confederate states. That's states vs. states. Succession != rebellion.
 
2013-07-15 01:27:09 PM  

Slaxl: If it's their term for the US Civil War then he's still correct. If French people called the US Civil War "La guerre des enfants terribles ", and the guy said "The war of the terrible children" he would still be technically correct. It doesn't matter what he said so long as some group of people call it that it is thusly a name for it that should be acceptable. With one notable exemption... A wrong answer would have been "The Civil War", as if there was only one.


My team lost a point in pub trivia once because we answered "Sputnik" for "What was the first man-made satellite?" instead of the correct answer "Sputnik I".
 
2013-07-15 01:27:17 PM  
I'm glad the producers of Jeopardy! didn't make a thing out of it. They could have made a thing out of it, you know, and President Obama would have been asked what he thought about it and he'd have said something and then everything would be higgledy-piggledy.

Instead the producers said "Fine, whatever, let's move on ..."
 
2013-07-15 01:27:28 PM  

blatz514: "What is the really cool song Guns-n-Roses did?"


Alex Trebek doesn't need your civil war.
 
2013-07-15 01:28:21 PM  
Either way the "War of Southern Whining" continues unabated.
 
2013-07-15 01:28:28 PM  

walkerhound: AdolfOliverPanties: I would like to go on Jeopardy and buzz in and say "Is the answer so and so, Alex?"   Just change up the form of the questions, try to throw Trebek off his game.

"If I say "Stephen King," would that be a correct response, Alex?"  Something like that.

What I don't get is that you can give an answer in a questioning tone..."Stephen King?" and it's not correct unless you say "who is" in front of it.


But you can say "Is it Stephen King?" in a questioning tone and be correct.
 
2013-07-15 01:28:35 PM  

cretinbob: StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.

That's why it's called the War of Northern Aggression. The south seceded but the north said "fark that shiat, you have all the money and you'll destory our economy"


Well when you pay your manual labor nothing.......
 
2013-07-15 01:29:03 PM  

boarch: Dr Dreidel: "The War Between [Sets of] The States [Over the Right to Own People as Property as Being an Economic Necessity]"

Too wordy. Since it was an internecine war between citizens of one country, let's just call it a "civil" war instead and save everyone some time.

Good ol' black history month has ruined history education in this country.

vpb: It wasn't a war between states.  The South wasn't fighting a war against New York and Massachusetts and the rest, it was fighting against the United States of America.

it wasn't states fighting each other, it was some rebels fighting against a nation.

Umm... one was the united states as you said and the other was the confederate states. That's states vs. states. Succession != rebellion.


Secession == rebellion - unless you win.
 
2013-07-15 01:29:14 PM  
Wasn't this the champion that said the first thing he was going to buy with the prize money was a new bed?  That being a big purchase for him since he was still sleeping in the same single bed since college.


foreveralone.jpg
 
2013-07-15 01:29:21 PM  

GoldSpider: StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.

That's still not the right word.


How about The War of Southern Failure?
 
2013-07-15 01:29:23 PM  

boarch: Umm... one was the united states as you said and the other was the confederate states. That's states vs. states. Succession != rebellion.


According to the SCOTUS in Texas v. White, yeah, it is.
 
2013-07-15 01:29:56 PM  

Dafatone: FTFA: "the term 'Civil War' is misleading and inexact. The war was not a class struggle, but a sectional combat, having its roots in such complex political, economic, social and psychological elements that it is difficult for historians to agree on all its basic causes."

Civil War means class struggle? Since when?


It is a little unusual to to refer to the type of conflict that the American Civil War was as a "civil war". Usually, that term refers to a struggle for dominance within a country, but the Confederacy wasn't a faction trying to take over the US. I would describe the war as a failed war of independence or a failed war of succession rather than a civil war.
 
2013-07-15 01:30:27 PM  

StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.


Exactly. If the impetus behind the war had been anything other than the idea of owning another human as property the South might have been able to secede even without bloodshed
 
2013-07-15 01:31:08 PM  
Technically, "War between the states" or "War of Southern secession" would be more correct, since the fight wasn't for control of the US but for the right of the South to split off and have its own government. But to use proper terminology means you must be in favor of slavery, so sit down and shut up or we'll beat you senseless in our enlightened and morally superior way.
 
2013-07-15 01:32:22 PM  

StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.


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What a war of succession might look like.
 
2013-07-15 01:32:48 PM  
The south is still fighting the War of Genetic Regression.

also, oblig
 
2013-07-15 01:32:49 PM  

Elroydb: StrikitRich: 'The Civil War' is a misnomer as the South was not trying to take over the entire country, but secede from it.  War of Sucession, therefore, is a much more accurate term.

Exactly. If the impetus behind the war had been anything other than the idea of owning another human as property the South might have been able to secede even without bloodshed


I doubt it. A lot of northern citizens didn't care one way or the other about the slavery question, or considered it subordinate to the question of whether or not the Union was perpetual. The South may have been able to have a negotiated peace if slavery weren't in the picture, but they wouldn't have been able to unilaterally secede under any circumstances.

Of course, without the slavery question, the South never would've tried to secede anyway...
 
2013-07-15 01:33:04 PM  

Warlordtrooper: I prefer "The war of southern treason."


So why do you celebrate Independence Day? :o
 
2013-07-15 01:33:11 PM  

violentsalvation: I saw that episode last week and I was expecting Alex to do his "Oooooh no sorry the we were looking for The. Civil. War. sorrrrrrry"

I have no idea why Saloon is reporting this. Hurr hurr southerners amirite?


Whenever somebody says "The Civil War", my 10-year-old daughter says "You mean the AMERICAN Civil War".  I don't know who taught her to be pedantic about it, but I think it's great.


/And yes, she can name civil wars that have occurred in other countries.
 
2013-07-15 01:33:13 PM  

Slaxl: A wrong answer would have been "The Civil War", as if there was only one.


If the answer is ambiguous, Trebek will ask the contestant to "be most specific" before counting it wrong.
 
2013-07-15 01:34:45 PM  

AdolfOliverPanties: At least it wasn't the War of Northern Aggression.

I would accept War Between the States, as it definitely wasn't very civil, now was it?

I would like to go on Jeopardy and buzz in and say "Is the answer so and so, Alex?"   Just change up the form of the questions, try to throw Trebek off his game.

"If I say "Stephen King," would that be a correct response, Alex?"  Something like that.


Oh, I'm sorry, it wouldn't, because "Stephen King" isn't in the form of a question. The correct response: Who is Stephen King?
 
2013-07-15 01:35:05 PM  

Krymson Tyde: How about The War of Southern Failure?


Win.
 
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