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(Crooks & Liars)   "They are hustlers and pimps who make a living off inflaming racial tensions," he said while making a living off inflaming racial tensions   (videocafe.crooksandliars.com) divider line 126
    More: Ironic, racial tensions, Mark O'Mara, Jessie Jackson, Al Sharpton, Geraldo Rivera, Tucker Carlson, Fox News, Clayton Morris  
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2013-07-15 04:28:52 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight:

Who the hell cares what the local white cop thinks? His opinion is no more important (nor informed) than yours or mine.

BTW, it's not even necessarily about Zimmerman's POV. It's about a system that views black people as guilty until proven innocent rather than the same standard for everyone. It's about not even charging someone with a crime in the case of an intentional death, and a stupid law that allows that to happen.

If a white kid had been under that hoodie, you don't think there would've been charges immediately?

If you honestly think of the justice system as color-blind, you might be a privileged white guy with little experience  in real life.

Nice backtracking and moving goal posts.  Really......8/10.....good work


i imagine also if it would have been a white kid that hsi school records;dental records and past behaviors would have been put on t he stand as well as his friends interviewed; instead of hidden like the judge did in  this trial: as well as the toxicology report to show he was blunted the night the incident occurred:

i agree that blacks can get railroaded; but hey sometimes people are guilty; and all the evidence points out trayvon was not a good person and had less than stellar parents:
 
2013-07-15 04:55:31 PM  
You know, I hear this type a thing a lot from conservatives (especially the ones who are on the side of the whites no matter what the issue).  Never mind the race baiting/dog whistling part, but the claim/theory that civil rights people are just in it for the money.

Apparently Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make MILLIONS off of race issues.  Oh, and they ALL know someone who knows someone who was shaken down financially by Jackson or Sharpton with false claims of racism.
 
2013-07-15 05:09:08 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You know, I hear this type a thing a lot from conservatives (especially the ones who are on the side of the whites no matter what the issue).  Never mind the race baiting/dog whistling part, but the claim/theory that civil rights people are just in it for the money.

Apparently Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make MILLIONS off of race issues.  Oh, and they ALL know someone who knows someone who was shaken down financially by Jackson or Sharpton with false claims of racism.


it was in the mid seventies when my mother told me i could not take the bus to and from school anymore. i was not told what was going on but my parents drove me to and from school every day and for about six months i spend most of the time at my my grandparents house.

my white stepfather was a hospital administrator caught a black female employee who had stolen to the tune of 12k in cash from the hospital safe.  which at that time was a large sum of money, hell even in todays dollars.

since she had worked for my dad for five years he convinced the hospital board, a bunch of south louisiana crackers, that instead of calling the police that she could continue working, they would call it a no interest loan, and that she would have a payment of 50 dollars a month out of her check, plus work to extra hours of overtime a week towards it until it was payed off. she agreed.

she later married an naacp member from new york, who had no job who was incensed that his wife had to work extra hours plus lose 50 bucks a month on top of that.  so he called in the hit squad on my father.

protests in front of the hospital, our house, etc, until my dad was called into court on civil rights violations. so when the testimony came out and the truth was told, the woman ended up getting three years in prison and her wages pretty much garnished for life.  the naacp issued no apology and attorney fees were around 80k out of my parents savings.

the naacp also said my father had also adopted a biracial kid to garner favor in the eyes of the courts, and that is when my father went ballastic, and told his attorney to break the woman...

its a tragedy that a kids dead, but not all kids are good, and not everything is racism.  though the press and the tan klan did that, and as always they quietly walk away.
 
2013-07-15 05:19:33 PM  

Aarontology: Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"


I don't know who "these folks" is referring to. There was a radio host in the 80's and 90's who called himself, 'The Black Avenger'. His name is Ken Hamblin. He regularly referred to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as 'Poverty Pimps', since they made their living extorting whites, off the backs of their black brothers and sisters. Ken Hamblin is a Black man, and refused to be called an African American.
 
2013-07-15 05:24:01 PM  

theflatline: she later married an naacp member from new york, who had no job who was incensed that his wife had to work extra hours plus lose 50 bucks a month on top of that. so he called in the hit squad on my father.

protests in front of the hospital, our house, etc, until my dad was called into court on civil rights violations. so when the testimony came out and the truth was told, the woman ended up getting three years in prison and her wages pretty much garnished for life. the naacp issued no apology and attorney fees were around 80k out of my parents savings.

the naacp also said my father had also adopted a biracial kid to garner favor in the eyes of the courts, and that is when my father went ballastic, and told his attorney to break the woman...


Right, the NAACP/both sides are bad so vote for the Klan...?
 
2013-07-15 05:30:37 PM  

Eponymous: Hickory-smoked: And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?


Okay, tip number 2...
 
2013-07-15 05:36:57 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.

Only because he could never dream of having a profile like theirs. Mommy's money just cannot buy some things.


Mommy Carlson?

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-07-15 05:44:37 PM  

Tommy Moo: This guy had an interesting take on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL2f0PoqME

One of those who can definitely only get away with what he's saying because he's black.


Yeah, that guy is speaking the truth.

I recommend this bit by him too:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxATnobG_Y8">http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=UxATnobG_Y8
 
2013-07-15 06:05:36 PM  

IAmRight: Yup, THAT was the problem in that case. Not that police just went to the scene, Zimmerman said "I was defending myself" and they basically said "well, okay!"


So not coming to the same conclusions as your in depth investigation means no investigation was done?
Those videos of him in interrogations in the days after the incident, the walk through, all on video, all without a lawyer present, all played during the trial..

That indicates to you that no investigation was done?

Good call. Your sleuthing skills are remarkable.
 
2013-07-15 06:12:15 PM  
The morning after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty for the murder of Trayvon Martin, Fox News host Clayton Morris asked Geraldo Rivera if he agreed with defense attorney Mark O'Mara that the trial would never have happened if the defendant had been black.

With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.
 
2013-07-15 06:25:40 PM  

Raven Darke: The morning after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty for the murder of Trayvon Martin, Fox News host Clayton Morris asked Geraldo Rivera if he agreed with defense attorney Mark O'Mara that the trial would never have happened if the defendant had been black.

With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.


with all due respect, have their been any lynchings lately in florida
 
2013-07-15 06:42:38 PM  
I think the trial was a farce and Zimmerman deserved the "not guilty" verdict, but these Fox News people don't speak for me.
Now that we're in the work week they're going to say a bunch of asinine things that will make people with my opinion look like total morons.
Thanks, media.
 
2013-07-15 06:57:08 PM  

dr_blasto: Eponymous: Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?

Whose native tongue are you referencing? Who are the people that are confused by proper grammar and annunciation you're talking about here?


you axing me a question?
 
2013-07-15 07:06:41 PM  

Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.


Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.
 
2013-07-15 07:19:57 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.



------------------------------

Nope. They instead petitioned to break up the Unites States of America.
 
2013-07-15 07:44:29 PM  

Eponymous: Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.

Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.


Do mean commit a violent crime, be accused of a violent crime, be convicted of a violent crime, or go to jail for that violent crime?  These are four different statistics.

I think you will find that the first is massively outweighed by the latter 3.
Whites tend to not be accused as often, not be convicted as often and not go to jail as often as blacks.  It is also important to note the percentage of cases that are cleared (in 2011:  54.3% violent crime as defined by the FBI*).  In this case "cleared" means someone is arrested.  So think about it, if half of reported violent crimes are unsolved, what does that say about your statistics?  Also, I would hazard that a good many crimes go unreported as well.

/*Citatiion FBI Clearances 2011
 
2013-07-15 07:50:13 PM  

Eponymous: dr_blasto: Eponymous: Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?

Whose native tongue are you referencing? Who are the people that are confused by proper grammar and annunciation you're talking about here?

you axing me a question?


Actually, homie, I asked two.
 
2013-07-15 08:17:17 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


Pretty much. The most important line was snagged by subby, and I very much agree.
 
2013-07-15 08:44:08 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.


My oh my. Looks like somebody misses the Jon cock...Gordon?
 
2013-07-15 08:59:49 PM  

fickenchucker: vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.

THIS^^^^

Also, I was stopped by the cops just for coming back home to visit my parents in a pretty nice neighborhood.  The infraction?  Driving a shiatty car.  I called the cop on it, nicely, and thanked him for looking out for the residents of the area.

He let me on my merry way with a smile and a wink.  Profiling works if you aren't a douche about it.


My son was driving my truck through a black neighborhood on the west side of Indianapolis, and when a cop saw he had plates from another county, they pulled him over, and searched him and the truck for drugs.

/I don't know what he was doing there.
//probably looking for drugs.
 
2013-07-15 09:18:14 PM  

cyberspacedout: Marcus Aurelius: Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.

I still wouldn't mind seeing John Oliver do it. I can imagine both. The question is, which character would be funnier - a tough-guy New Yorker, or a snotty British guy?


Oliver > Stewart
 
2013-07-15 09:18:29 PM  

Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.


"Speak" and "do" are two different terms. Especially when most of the solutions they propose are restrictions which don't strike at the core problem of black-on-black murder: fundamental lack of respect for human life.

I don't watch Carlson (or any cable news, for that matter... I find I'm happier that way), but I don't get the feeling that he's spent the better part of five decades making consistently broken promises to one of the most exploited and violence-torn groups in America. Sharpton and Jackson have done and continue to do so.
 
2013-07-15 10:01:39 PM  

Marine1: Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

"Speak" and "do" are two different terms.


Unless your job is to make speeches.

Especially when most of the solutions they propose are restrictions which don't strike at the core problem of black-on-black murder:

Economics and the War on Drugs?

fundamental lack of respect for human life.

ಠ_ಠ
 
2013-07-15 11:26:12 PM  
Two fat old guys who slur their words might seem like pimps, when compared with an overgrown closeted boy scout in a bow tie with a high-pitched voice.
 
2013-07-16 01:17:06 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.

One night when I was 14 or 15 I was followed in my own neighborhood by neighborhood watch dude patrolling in his car.  I ignored him and kept walking till I got home.  Nothing happened to me.


See, if that's what Trayvon had done he'd be alive today.
 
2013-07-16 01:19:01 PM  

Raven Darke: Eponymous: Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.

Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.

Do mean commit a violent crime, be accused of a violent crime, be convicted of a violent crime, or go to jail for that violent crime?  These are four different statistics.

I think you will find that the first is massively outweighed by the latter 3.
Whites tend to not be accused as often, not be convicted as often and not go to jail as often as blacks.  It is also important to note the percentage of cases that are cleared (in 2011:  54.3% violent crime as defined by the FBI*).  In this case "cleared" means someone is arrested.  So think about it, if half of reported violent crimes are unsolved, what does that say about your statistics?  Also, I would hazard that a good many crimes go unreported as well.

/*Citatiion FBI Clearances 2011


...apparently black guys commit crimes we don't even know about?
 
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