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2013-07-15 12:35:25 PM  
They're his competition.
 
2013-07-15 12:37:10 PM  
Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"
 
2013-07-15 12:40:23 PM  

Aarontology: Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"


I can't hear you over that high pitched whistling sound.
 
2013-07-15 12:41:26 PM  
Christ, what an asshole
 
2013-07-15 12:51:34 PM  
25.media.tumblr.com

Tucker Swanson McNear Carlson is an American political news correspondent and Libertarian Conservative commentator for the fox news channel. He is co-founder and editor in chief of the Daily Caller. He is also a pimp and an aspiring rapper.

He and his pregnant wife, Shug live in South Memphis.
 
2013-07-15 12:55:10 PM  
Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.
 
2013-07-15 01:42:25 PM  
Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.
 
2013-07-15 01:42:52 PM  
He calls two black guys hustlers and pimps while decrying racism against the Bowtie tribe of Whitelandia.

When is this douche going to get a job?
 
2013-07-15 01:43:43 PM  

Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.


Only because he could never dream of having a profile like theirs. Mommy's money just cannot buy some things.
 
2013-07-15 01:44:08 PM  
They're all involved.  It's nothing a good hanging can't fix.
 
2013-07-15 01:44:22 PM  
Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?
 
2013-07-15 01:45:42 PM  
So who are their biatches?

And where's my money? Now where is the rest of the money? I know you ho's are holding out.
 
2013-07-15 01:46:39 PM  
Does anybody else imagine Tucker Carlson bases his outrageous statements on when The Daily Show is airing new episodes?
 
2013-07-15 01:47:37 PM  
on the fence with Tucker... he's a conservative douche, but I feel deep down that he "get's it", but his overriding conservatism takes precedence over his rational thought-
 
2013-07-15 01:47:40 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: He calls two black guys hustlers and pimps while decrying racism against the Bowtie tribe of Whitelandia.

When is this douche going to get a job?


Would YOU hire him?
 
2013-07-15 01:48:11 PM  
AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are racial arsonists.
 
2013-07-15 01:48:41 PM  
He's an asshole. But he's right about these two shakedown artists.
www.thegatewaypundit.com
4.bp.blogspot.com
 
2013-07-15 01:49:45 PM  
I'm not your monkey
 
2013-07-15 01:50:09 PM  
Remember how they said "only Nixon could go to China"?

This isn't like that.
 
2013-07-15 01:51:03 PM  

Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.


That's like saying you're not a bad person if you murder 10 people as opposed to 100. End of the day they all do the same thing so they should all be held accountable. I don't care if Tucker started 5 years ago and Jackson/Sharpton started decades ago, you do the race baiting you should get called out on it.
 
2013-07-15 01:51:04 PM  
AL Sharpton is less of a douche then he was in the past, I think because he likes his MSNBC gig. Guess it's because he is old now. Can't say as much for Jesse. He's still a scammer.
 
2013-07-15 01:51:23 PM  

Aarontology: Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"


Panderer sounds like a politician
 
2013-07-15 01:51:54 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.


I still wouldn't mind seeing John Oliver do it. I can imagine both. The question is, which character would be funnier - a tough-guy New Yorker, or a snotty British guy?
 
2013-07-15 01:52:22 PM  
biatches & Whores....biatchES & WHORES!
 
2013-07-15 01:53:01 PM  
<i>"They are hustlers and pimps who make a living off inflaming racial tensions," he said while making a living off inflaming racial tensions those who inflame racial tensions.</i>

See, the difference submitter is that they make a living by causing racial tensions. He makes a living by observing and reporting them doing so. stay in school, dude.
 
2013-07-15 01:53:06 PM  
I flipped through Fox and saw Tucker Carlson this weekend.  He had Scott Brown on as a guest for comments on the situation.  (Brown was (is?) a center/sometimes even veering left former Republican US Senator from MA).  As Carlson tried to connect the events to Pres. Obama's administration and the left in general, Brown let out a laugh before Carlson finished his sentence.  Brown did go on to answer honestly and it did take a bite out of what the left has done with regard to inappropriate spending, but you could tell he knew what was coming.  His laugh, to me, said he's glad he's been out of the nonsense game for the past few months.
 
2013-07-15 01:53:13 PM  

Danger Mouse: AL Sharpton and Jesse Jackson are racial arsonists.


You win the internet!

They have absolute no interest in making racial tensions and injustice go away..  It's just about using fear to put food on their plates and cash in their pockets.
 
2013-07-15 01:53:33 PM  
lh3.googleusercontent.com
 
2013-07-15 01:53:41 PM  
* snooty

/stupid mobile predictive keyboard
 
2013-07-15 01:53:49 PM  
Until we learn to ignore the real life trolls we'll never be rid of the pimps and hustlers- news readers, chest thumpers, blame deflectors and fairy tale merchants.
 
2013-07-15 01:54:29 PM  
Why is this even Fark worthy Not News?  Tucker Carlson being a D-Bag is about as "dog bites man" as they come.
 
2013-07-15 01:55:01 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.
 
2013-07-15 01:55:03 PM  
ITT:

People who believe racism just won't exist if black people would just stop pointing out all the inequality.
 
2013-07-15 01:55:24 PM  
Wait... Tucker Carlson is a hypocritical douchebag?

Who knew?!?
 
2013-07-15 01:57:45 PM  

IAmRight: ITT:

People who believe racism just won't exist if black people would just stop pointing out all the inequality.


Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism doesn't exist
 
2013-07-15 01:57:47 PM  
Perfect use of the word "irony" here.  The original point is considered valid and truthful--just conveyed by an imperfect messenger.

It's fact Jackson and Sharpton are so well known as crooks, and the criticism is on the messenger being impure.
 
2013-07-15 01:58:30 PM  

Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.


assets.mensjournal.com

Thank you Black Dynamite.
 
2013-07-15 01:58:31 PM  
Faux News may be the best comedy station ever.
 
2013-07-15 01:58:36 PM  

IAmRight: ITT:

People who believe racism just won't exist if black people would just stop pointing out all the inequality.


Again, with feeling this time.  Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists
 
2013-07-15 01:59:49 PM  
Man, that's a lot of race baiting dog whistling.
 
2013-07-15 02:01:20 PM  

justanotherfarkinfarker: AL Sharpton is less of a douche then he was in the past, I think because he likes his MSNBC gig. Guess it's because he is old now.


I've never been a particular fan of Al, but this live show he did on The Moth Radio, telling the story about about confronting the man who tried to assassinate him, was pretty powerful. Everyone who wants to dismiss him as merely a charlatan should give it an honest listen.

http://themoth.org/posts/storytellers/al-sharpton
 
2013-07-15 02:03:28 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


no
 
2013-07-15 02:03:29 PM  
I haven't known a lot of pimps in my time, but I don't think a core value in their business model is inflaming racial tensions.
 
2013-07-15 02:05:47 PM  
fark Tucker.

In other news...CNN to revive Crossfire...with Newt Gingrich, S.E. Cupp, Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones

I just saw this and even though I don't now whether to laugh or I cry, I am damn certain it is the greatest gift ever to The Daily Show and Colbert.
 
2013-07-15 02:06:09 PM  
If you talk about racism, you might be a racist.
 
2013-07-15 02:06:59 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists


So which thing being called racism isn't?
 
2013-07-15 02:08:04 PM  

Whiskey Dickens: I haven't known a lot of pimps in my time, but I don't think a core value in their business model is inflaming racial tensions.


Sure it is.  Jesse Jackson leads boycott of Anheuser-Busch.  Jesse Jackson's sons get an Anheuser-Busch distributorship.  Boycott not so much anymore
 
2013-07-15 02:08:40 PM  
Hickory-smoked: And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?
 
2013-07-15 02:09:00 PM  

IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists

So which thing being called racism isn't?


Zimmerman shooting for instance.
 
2013-07-15 02:10:28 PM  
ts2.mm.bing.net
 
2013-07-15 02:10:48 PM  
Being a douche is an opportunity allowed to people of any race. Tucker has every right to be as much of a douche as Al and Jesse. He should be proud to live in a country where people of ANY race can grow up to be a huge douche whose only purpose in life is to stir up shiat.

Having said that.... could someone off those three? PUH-LEAZE????
 
2013-07-15 02:11:11 PM  

Whiskey Dickens: I haven't known a lot of pimps in my time, but I don't think a core value in their business model is inflaming racial tensions.


I pay extra for the girl to act ghetto tough and use all sorts of racial insults, takes the grudge fark to the next level.
Does that count?
 
2013-07-15 02:12:56 PM  
I really liked Al Sharpton in the Chris Rock film Black Hair.
 
2013-07-15 02:13:42 PM  

vernonFL: I really liked Al Sharpton in the Chris Rock film Black Hair.


GOOD Hair. Jesus, I am the racist.
 
2013-07-15 02:14:03 PM  

Aarontology: Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"


They say it as though it's just some easy thing to do when we all know that pimpin' ain't easy.


www.oddfilms.com
You rat-soup eatin' motherfarker.


/hot, like Dolemite's Kung Fu Whorehouse.
 
2013-07-15 02:14:46 PM  
Cognitive Dissonance SONIC BOOM!!!
 
2013-07-15 02:16:12 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists

So which thing being called racism isn't?

Zimmerman shooting for instance.


out of 34 calls made to the 311 emergency number by Zimmerman over the year preceding the shooting concerning "suspicious" people in the neighborhood how many were about white or Hispanics people looking suspicious?
How many resulted in there actually being an arrest made?
Hint it's the same number
 
2013-07-15 02:16:28 PM  

ChipNASA: biatches & Whores....biatchES & WHORES!


Boats and hoes.   boats and hoes

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2013-07-15 02:17:18 PM  

JohnnyApocalypse: Cognitive Dissonance SONIC BOOM!!!


they only project. never introspect
 
2013-07-15 02:17:53 PM  
Hobodeluxe:
out of 34 calls made to the 311 emergency number by Zimmerman over the year preceding the shooting concerning "suspicious" people in the neighborhood how many were about white or Hispanics people looking suspicious?
How many resulted in there actually being an arrest made?
Hint it's the same number


I don't know.  How many?
 
2013-07-15 02:18:25 PM  
Hey, rich white guy who wears a bow tie and whose dad has a cane collection is right about race relations! Nice to see he took the high road by calling them pimps.
 
2013-07-15 02:19:21 PM  

Lt. Cheese Weasel: Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

[assets.mensjournal.com image 618x348]

Thank you Black Dynamite.


Concurs:
xaxor.com
 
2013-07-15 02:20:37 PM  
I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.
 
2013-07-15 02:21:15 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists

So which thing being called racism isn't?

Zimmerman shooting for instance.

out of 34 calls made to the 311 emergency number by Zimmerman over the year preceding the shooting concerning "suspicious" people in the neighborhood how many were about white or Hispanics people looking suspicious?
How many resulted in there actually being an arrest made?
Hint it's the same number


Trick question.  311 is the non-emergency number
 
2013-07-15 02:25:00 PM  

vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.


One night when I was 14 or 15 I was followed in my own neighborhood by neighborhood watch dude patrolling in his car.  I ignored him and kept walking till I got home.  Nothing happened to me.
 
2013-07-15 02:27:23 PM  

Hobodeluxe: Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Pointing out that not everything is racism does not mean you don't think racism exists

So which thing being called racism isn't?

Zimmerman shooting for instance.

out of 34 calls made to the 311 emergency number by Zimmerman over the year preceding the shooting concerning "suspicious" people in the neighborhood how many were about white or Hispanics people looking suspicious?
How many resulted in there actually being an arrest made?
Hint it's the same number


those numbers mean nothing unless we have the total number viewed and all their descriptions

/if you had red trucks smashing into parked cars in your neighborhood would you not be on the look out for red trucks? or at least leery or said red trucks?
 
2013-07-15 02:28:51 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.

One night when I was 14 or 15 I was followed in my own neighborhood by neighborhood watch dude patrolling in his car.  I ignored him and kept walking till I got home.  Nothing happened to me.


but if you were wearing a hoodie or black he would have shot you then and there, you are lucky to be alive
 
2013-07-15 02:30:31 PM  

vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.


THIS^^^^

Also, I was stopped by the cops just for coming back home to visit my parents in a pretty nice neighborhood.  The infraction?  Driving a shiatty car.  I called the cop on it, nicely, and thanked him for looking out for the residents of the area.

He let me on my merry way with a smile and a wink.  Profiling works if you aren't a douche about it.
 
2013-07-15 02:30:55 PM  
Jackson is only for Jackson, and for nobody or anything else.

I once had the oh so major honor of being on his flight to DC. He had a ton of bodyguards. There were some African-American families at the gate waiting to board and the fathers got really excited. They approached Jesse with their sons and daughters and asked for a quick picture or autograph.

You would have thought someone jammed a wad of poop in his nose, he looked so put out and disgusted. Meanwhile they had to search the plane so we all were delayed. The least he could do is make an attempt to look like he cared about kids and black families.

The best part was when one of his bodyguards (also African-American) gave me this look during this that clearly said that he hated either his job, or Jesse, or both.
 
2013-07-15 02:31:39 PM  

Eponymous: Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?


Whose native tongue are you referencing? Who are the people that are confused by proper grammar and annunciation you're talking about here?
 
2013-07-15 02:35:39 PM  
Joe Blowme:
but if you were wearing a hoodie or black he would have shot you then and there, you are lucky to be alive

If I went back and attacked the guy he might have shot me.
 
2013-07-15 02:38:20 PM  
"They are hustlers and pimps who make a living off inflaming racial tensions," he continued. "They know nothing about this. They're not residents of Florida, they don't represent anybody, they're not elected to anything, they don't have constituencies. And the only reason they are allowed to do this is because we in the public enable them by calling them journalists. Why do we do that?"
 
2013-07-15 02:43:10 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Zimmerman shooting for instance.


Yeah, if you don't see the racism all over that, you're either an idiot or you're deluding yourself.
 
2013-07-15 02:48:37 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.

Only because he could never dream of having a profile like theirs. Mommy's money just cannot buy some things.


Dass real retarded, sir.
 
2013-07-15 02:50:09 PM  
This guy had an interesting take on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL2f0PoqME

One of those who can definitely only get away with what he's saying because he's black.
 
2013-07-15 02:53:41 PM  

Hobodeluxe: out of 34 calls made to the 311 emergency number by Zimmerman over the year preceding the shooting concerning "suspicious" people in the neighborhood how many were about white or Hispanics people looking suspicious?
How many resulted in there actually being an arrest made?
Hint it's the same number


So this says that if there were twenty calls made to report white or Hispanics looking suspicious, and all twenty calls resulted in an arrest.

And it says that there were no calls made to report white or Hispanics looking suspicious, in which case it would make sense that there were no arrests, since there was no call. For anyone to come make an arrest.

Sounds pretty equitable and efficient to me.
 
2013-07-15 02:53:56 PM  
I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

If GZ's trial was NOT racially motivated, then why did it take 44 days to file charges? Why were charges only filed after the Obamanation got involved?
 
2013-07-15 02:55:11 PM  

IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Zimmerman shooting for instance.

Yeah, if you don't see the racism all over that, you're either an idiot or  & you're deluding yourself.


FTFY
 
2013-07-15 02:59:28 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

If GZ's trial was NOT racially motivated, then why did it take 44 days to file charges? Why were charges only filed after the Obamanation got involved?


No, the rhetoric was a little different but just as bad.
 
2013-07-15 03:02:07 PM  

vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.


Hey white boy, what you doin' uptown?
Hey white boy, you chasin' our women around?
 
2013-07-15 03:04:41 PM  
Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

Nothing says "ignorant conservative" quite like spewing this kind of nonsense,
 
2013-07-15 03:05:34 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections,

as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

If GZ's trial was NOT racially motivated, then why did it take 44 days to file charges? Why were charges only filed after the Obamanation got involved?


[citation needed]
 
2013-07-15 03:07:31 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

If GZ's trial was NOT racially motivated, then why did it take 44 days to file charges? Why were charges only filed after the Obamanation got involved?


Yup, THAT was the problem in that case. Not that police just went to the scene, Zimmerman said "I was defending myself" and they basically said "well, okay!"

/note how there were supposedly going to be tons of riots after the case, too, yet pretty much all that happened were peaceful protests
//of course, no one makes big stories about how white people are going to riot - the media simply expects it of black people
///which, BTW, is racist
 
2013-07-15 03:09:31 PM  

Randvek: Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

Nothing says "ignorant conservative" quite like spewing this kind of nonsense,


Please point out for the class where that statement is in any way misleading or wrong.
 
2013-07-15 03:11:06 PM  
 
2013-07-15 03:17:24 PM  

MaudlinMutantMollusk: Christ, what an asshole


When you're being judged against the biggest assholes then he's not an asshole.

It reminds me of the reddits use of the dude saying "you're not wrong, you're just an asshole"

Its really not the time or place to discuss this at all.
 
2013-07-15 03:17:50 PM  

IAmRight: Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.

If GZ's trial was NOT racially motivated, then why did it take 44 days to file charges? Why were charges only filed after the Obamanation got involved?

Yup, THAT was the problem in that case. Not that police just went to the scene, Zimmerman said "I was defending myself" and they basically said "well, okay!"

/note how there were supposedly going to be tons of riots after the case, too, yet pretty much all that happened were peaceful protests
//of course, no one makes big stories about how white people are going to riot - the media simply expects it of black people
///which, BTW, is racist


could be of been the gazillions of tweets by black people threatening to riot, steal shiat, and kick whiteys ass.....

thank god i am biracial and have no white guilt or black pride, and the hispanic part of me does not depend i wear bright colors.


the
 
2013-07-15 03:25:49 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


THIS
Tucker is a major D-Bag but he just happens to be spot on this time.
 
2013-07-15 03:30:22 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.


Get some perspective here.  It was posted on the internet by idiots.  That's hardly representative of truth or entire racial groups.  Someone will almost assuredly break a window this week.  But don't let's be silly.
 
2013-07-15 03:35:27 PM  
This BLACK MAN says it better than anyone.  Screw Al and Jesse:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXFi0l--NPI
 
2013-07-15 03:36:55 PM  

TerminalEchoes: HotWingConspiracy: Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.

Only because he could never dream of having a profile like theirs. Mommy's money just cannot buy some things.

Dass real retarded, sir.


I dunno, he's been trying to purchase relevancy for quite some time. Not working out.
 
2013-07-15 03:41:40 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Zimmerman shooting for instance.

Yeah, if you don't see the racism all over that, you're either an idiot or you're deluding yourself.

In an interview last year with two FBI agents, Chris Serino, the Sanford Police Department detective who headed the shooting probe, said that he believed that "Zimmerman's actions were not based on Martin's skin color." Rather, Serino told the agents, the deadly confrontation was triggered by the 17-year-old Martin's "attire, the total circumstances of the encounter and the previous burglary suspects in the community."

/wait for it.....wait for it.....
//the cop is racist too!!!!


Who the hell cares what the local white cop thinks? His opinion is no more important (nor informed) than yours or mine.

BTW, it's not even necessarily about Zimmerman's POV. It's about a system that views black people as guilty until proven innocent rather than the same standard for everyone. It's about not even charging someone with a crime in the case of an intentional death, and a stupid law that allows that to happen.

If a white kid had been under that hoodie, you don't think there would've been charges immediately?

If you honestly think of the justice system as color-blind, you might be a privileged white guy with little experience  in real life.
 
2013-07-15 03:45:06 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


Yes, he is wrong. Someone has to b listening to you in order for you to "inflame" anything. No one listens to Al and Jesse except for the clowns who keep dropping their names.
 
2013-07-15 03:46:08 PM  
Well, even an a-hole can be right. And he's right there.
 
2013-07-15 03:57:22 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Whiskey Dickens: I haven't known a lot of pimps in my time, but I don't think a core value in their business model is inflaming racial tensions.

Sure it is.  Jesse Jackson leads boycott of Anheuser-Busch.  Jesse Jackson's sons get an Anheuser-Busch distributorship.  Boycott not so much anymore


I thought this was pretty well known.  It is how he makes money.  He goes after you then you make a 'donation' and he goes away.  shiat even South Park did an episode about it.
 
2013-07-15 04:13:24 PM  
thinkprogress.org

"Just like you man...I got the shotgun...you got the briefcase...all in the game though, right?"
 
2013-07-15 04:13:49 PM  
IAmRight:

Who the hell cares what the local white cop thinks? His opinion is no more important (nor informed) than yours or mine.

BTW, it's not even necessarily about Zimmerman's POV. It's about a system that views black people as guilty until proven innocent rather than the same standard for everyone. It's about not even charging someone with a crime in the case of an intentional death, and a stupid law that allows that to happen.

If a white kid had been under that hoodie, you don't think there would've been charges immediately?

If you honestly think of the justice system as color-blind, you might be a privileged white guy with little experience  in real life.


Nice backtracking and moving goal posts.  Really......8/10.....good work
 
2013-07-15 04:14:56 PM  

NickelP: Hang On Voltaire: Whiskey Dickens: I haven't known a lot of pimps in my time, but I don't think a core value in their business model is inflaming racial tensions.

Sure it is.  Jesse Jackson leads boycott of Anheuser-Busch.  Jesse Jackson's sons get an Anheuser-Busch distributorship.  Boycott not so much anymore

I thought this was pretty well known.  It is how he makes money.  He goes after you then you make a 'donation' and he goes away.  shiat even South Park did an episode about it.


which is why jessie and al are called the tan clan.
 
2013-07-15 04:16:19 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: Nice backtracking and moving goal posts.  Really......8/10.....good work


There were a LOT of things involved in the Zimmerman case. And virtually all of them had stereotypes and racism running through them. But hey, let's pretend that the only part people had a problem with was the whitish guy killing the brown guy. That way we can pretend that the outrage isn't justified.
 
2013-07-15 04:27:49 PM  

IAmRight: Hang On Voltaire: Nice backtracking and moving goal posts.  Really......8/10.....good work

There were a LOT of things involved in the Zimmerman case. And virtually all of them had stereotypes and racism running through them. But hey, let's pretend that the only part people had a problem with was the whitish guy killing the brown guy. That way we can pretend that the outrage isn't justified.


Are you implying people are protesting armed neighborhood watchmen or poor prosecution, and not racism?  Those were 2 of the 3 most important factors in the trial, I can see where someone would have a problem.  But I don't know if it would motivate large protests.
 
2013-07-15 04:28:52 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: IAmRight:

Who the hell cares what the local white cop thinks? His opinion is no more important (nor informed) than yours or mine.

BTW, it's not even necessarily about Zimmerman's POV. It's about a system that views black people as guilty until proven innocent rather than the same standard for everyone. It's about not even charging someone with a crime in the case of an intentional death, and a stupid law that allows that to happen.

If a white kid had been under that hoodie, you don't think there would've been charges immediately?

If you honestly think of the justice system as color-blind, you might be a privileged white guy with little experience  in real life.

Nice backtracking and moving goal posts.  Really......8/10.....good work


i imagine also if it would have been a white kid that hsi school records;dental records and past behaviors would have been put on t he stand as well as his friends interviewed; instead of hidden like the judge did in  this trial: as well as the toxicology report to show he was blunted the night the incident occurred:

i agree that blacks can get railroaded; but hey sometimes people are guilty; and all the evidence points out trayvon was not a good person and had less than stellar parents:
 
2013-07-15 04:55:31 PM  
You know, I hear this type a thing a lot from conservatives (especially the ones who are on the side of the whites no matter what the issue).  Never mind the race baiting/dog whistling part, but the claim/theory that civil rights people are just in it for the money.

Apparently Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make MILLIONS off of race issues.  Oh, and they ALL know someone who knows someone who was shaken down financially by Jackson or Sharpton with false claims of racism.
 
2013-07-15 05:09:08 PM  

Satanic_Hamster: You know, I hear this type a thing a lot from conservatives (especially the ones who are on the side of the whites no matter what the issue).  Never mind the race baiting/dog whistling part, but the claim/theory that civil rights people are just in it for the money.

Apparently Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton make MILLIONS off of race issues.  Oh, and they ALL know someone who knows someone who was shaken down financially by Jackson or Sharpton with false claims of racism.


it was in the mid seventies when my mother told me i could not take the bus to and from school anymore. i was not told what was going on but my parents drove me to and from school every day and for about six months i spend most of the time at my my grandparents house.

my white stepfather was a hospital administrator caught a black female employee who had stolen to the tune of 12k in cash from the hospital safe.  which at that time was a large sum of money, hell even in todays dollars.

since she had worked for my dad for five years he convinced the hospital board, a bunch of south louisiana crackers, that instead of calling the police that she could continue working, they would call it a no interest loan, and that she would have a payment of 50 dollars a month out of her check, plus work to extra hours of overtime a week towards it until it was payed off. she agreed.

she later married an naacp member from new york, who had no job who was incensed that his wife had to work extra hours plus lose 50 bucks a month on top of that.  so he called in the hit squad on my father.

protests in front of the hospital, our house, etc, until my dad was called into court on civil rights violations. so when the testimony came out and the truth was told, the woman ended up getting three years in prison and her wages pretty much garnished for life.  the naacp issued no apology and attorney fees were around 80k out of my parents savings.

the naacp also said my father had also adopted a biracial kid to garner favor in the eyes of the courts, and that is when my father went ballastic, and told his attorney to break the woman...

its a tragedy that a kids dead, but not all kids are good, and not everything is racism.  though the press and the tan klan did that, and as always they quietly walk away.
 
2013-07-15 05:19:33 PM  

Aarontology: Why do these folks always use the term "pimp"


I don't know who "these folks" is referring to. There was a radio host in the 80's and 90's who called himself, 'The Black Avenger'. His name is Ken Hamblin. He regularly referred to Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson as 'Poverty Pimps', since they made their living extorting whites, off the backs of their black brothers and sisters. Ken Hamblin is a Black man, and refused to be called an African American.
 
2013-07-15 05:24:01 PM  

theflatline: she later married an naacp member from new york, who had no job who was incensed that his wife had to work extra hours plus lose 50 bucks a month on top of that. so he called in the hit squad on my father.

protests in front of the hospital, our house, etc, until my dad was called into court on civil rights violations. so when the testimony came out and the truth was told, the woman ended up getting three years in prison and her wages pretty much garnished for life. the naacp issued no apology and attorney fees were around 80k out of my parents savings.

the naacp also said my father had also adopted a biracial kid to garner favor in the eyes of the courts, and that is when my father went ballastic, and told his attorney to break the woman...


Right, the NAACP/both sides are bad so vote for the Klan...?
 
2013-07-15 05:30:37 PM  

Eponymous: Hickory-smoked: And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?


Okay, tip number 2...
 
2013-07-15 05:36:57 PM  

HotWingConspiracy: Chach: Tucker Carlson is about one one millionth as complicit in the race card game as Jackson or Sharpton are.

Only because he could never dream of having a profile like theirs. Mommy's money just cannot buy some things.


Mommy Carlson?

www.blogcdn.com
 
2013-07-15 05:44:37 PM  

Tommy Moo: This guy had an interesting take on it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2sL2f0PoqME

One of those who can definitely only get away with what he's saying because he's black.


Yeah, that guy is speaking the truth.

I recommend this bit by him too:   http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxATnobG_Y8">http://www.youtube.com/wa tch?v=UxATnobG_Y8
 
2013-07-15 06:05:36 PM  

IAmRight: Yup, THAT was the problem in that case. Not that police just went to the scene, Zimmerman said "I was defending myself" and they basically said "well, okay!"


So not coming to the same conclusions as your in depth investigation means no investigation was done?
Those videos of him in interrogations in the days after the incident, the walk through, all on video, all without a lawyer present, all played during the trial..

That indicates to you that no investigation was done?

Good call. Your sleuthing skills are remarkable.
 
2013-07-15 06:12:15 PM  
The morning after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty for the murder of Trayvon Martin, Fox News host Clayton Morris asked Geraldo Rivera if he agreed with defense attorney Mark O'Mara that the trial would never have happened if the defendant had been black.

With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.
 
2013-07-15 06:25:40 PM  

Raven Darke: The morning after a Florida jury found George Zimmerman not guilty for the murder of Trayvon Martin, Fox News host Clayton Morris asked Geraldo Rivera if he agreed with defense attorney Mark O'Mara that the trial would never have happened if the defendant had been black.

With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.


with all due respect, have their been any lynchings lately in florida
 
2013-07-15 06:42:38 PM  
I think the trial was a farce and Zimmerman deserved the "not guilty" verdict, but these Fox News people don't speak for me.
Now that we're in the work week they're going to say a bunch of asinine things that will make people with my opinion look like total morons.
Thanks, media.
 
2013-07-15 06:57:08 PM  

dr_blasto: Eponymous: Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?

Whose native tongue are you referencing? Who are the people that are confused by proper grammar and annunciation you're talking about here?


you axing me a question?
 
2013-07-15 07:06:41 PM  

Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.


Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.
 
2013-07-15 07:19:57 PM  

Lee451: I don't recall whites threatening to riot if Obama won the last 2 elections, as certain other groups threatened to do if he lost.



------------------------------

Nope. They instead petitioned to break up the Unites States of America.
 
2013-07-15 07:44:29 PM  

Eponymous: Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.

Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.


Do mean commit a violent crime, be accused of a violent crime, be convicted of a violent crime, or go to jail for that violent crime?  These are four different statistics.

I think you will find that the first is massively outweighed by the latter 3.
Whites tend to not be accused as often, not be convicted as often and not go to jail as often as blacks.  It is also important to note the percentage of cases that are cleared (in 2011:  54.3% violent crime as defined by the FBI*).  In this case "cleared" means someone is arrested.  So think about it, if half of reported violent crimes are unsolved, what does that say about your statistics?  Also, I would hazard that a good many crimes go unreported as well.

/*Citatiion FBI Clearances 2011
 
2013-07-15 07:50:13 PM  

Eponymous: dr_blasto: Eponymous: Sometimes you have to convey your comments in a native tongue for the them to be understood.....after all, can we all agree that what has long been considered proper grammar and annunciation is confusing to some people?

Whose native tongue are you referencing? Who are the people that are confused by proper grammar and annunciation you're talking about here?

you axing me a question?


Actually, homie, I asked two.
 
2013-07-15 08:17:17 PM  

JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?


Pretty much. The most important line was snagged by subby, and I very much agree.
 
2013-07-15 08:44:08 PM  

Marcus Aurelius: Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.


My oh my. Looks like somebody misses the Jon cock...Gordon?
 
2013-07-15 08:59:49 PM  

fickenchucker: vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.

THIS^^^^

Also, I was stopped by the cops just for coming back home to visit my parents in a pretty nice neighborhood.  The infraction?  Driving a shiatty car.  I called the cop on it, nicely, and thanked him for looking out for the residents of the area.

He let me on my merry way with a smile and a wink.  Profiling works if you aren't a douche about it.


My son was driving my truck through a black neighborhood on the west side of Indianapolis, and when a cop saw he had plates from another county, they pulled him over, and searched him and the truck for drugs.

/I don't know what he was doing there.
//probably looking for drugs.
 
2013-07-15 09:18:14 PM  

cyberspacedout: Marcus Aurelius: Tucker Carlson is fortunate that Jon Stewart has the summer off so he won't have to remember what a pimp slap feels like.

I still wouldn't mind seeing John Oliver do it. I can imagine both. The question is, which character would be funnier - a tough-guy New Yorker, or a snotty British guy?


Oliver > Stewart
 
2013-07-15 09:18:29 PM  

Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.


"Speak" and "do" are two different terms. Especially when most of the solutions they propose are restrictions which don't strike at the core problem of black-on-black murder: fundamental lack of respect for human life.

I don't watch Carlson (or any cable news, for that matter... I find I'm happier that way), but I don't get the feeling that he's spent the better part of five decades making consistently broken promises to one of the most exploited and violence-torn groups in America. Sharpton and Jackson have done and continue to do so.
 
2013-07-15 10:01:39 PM  

Marine1: Hickory-smoked: JohnAnnArbor: Even if you don't like the guy, is he wrong?

Yes, he is. The accusation (one of them anyway) is that Jackson and Sharpton don't care about black-on-black gun violence, and they both speak frequently on the subject.

And to point out the obvious, if you're accusing someone of manipulating audiences with fabricated accusations of racial injustice, using 1970's Blacksplotation terms is a particularly awkward way of doing it.

"Speak" and "do" are two different terms.


Unless your job is to make speeches.

Especially when most of the solutions they propose are restrictions which don't strike at the core problem of black-on-black murder:

Economics and the War on Drugs?

fundamental lack of respect for human life.

ಠ_ಠ
 
2013-07-15 11:26:12 PM  
Two fat old guys who slur their words might seem like pimps, when compared with an overgrown closeted boy scout in a bow tie with a high-pitched voice.
 
2013-07-16 01:17:06 PM  

Hang On Voltaire: vernonFL: I'm white and I've been stopped by residents and police when I walk or drive through black neighborhoods.

People assume I'm there to buy drugs.

One night when I was 14 or 15 I was followed in my own neighborhood by neighborhood watch dude patrolling in his car.  I ignored him and kept walking till I got home.  Nothing happened to me.


See, if that's what Trayvon had done he'd be alive today.
 
2013-07-16 01:19:01 PM  

Raven Darke: Eponymous: Raven Darke: With all due respect, he is correct. If Mr. Martin had been a white teen, and Mr. Zimmermann a black man, there would have been no trial.  There would have been a lynching.

Well then I guess it's a good thing that blacks are 39 times more likely to commit a violent crime against whites then vice versa....that should help keep the incidence of lynching down.

/citation provided:  The "New Century Foundation" study of the FBI's NCVS, National Crime Victimization Survey, and The Department of Justice's UCR, Uniform Crime Reports, April '12.

Do mean commit a violent crime, be accused of a violent crime, be convicted of a violent crime, or go to jail for that violent crime?  These are four different statistics.

I think you will find that the first is massively outweighed by the latter 3.
Whites tend to not be accused as often, not be convicted as often and not go to jail as often as blacks.  It is also important to note the percentage of cases that are cleared (in 2011:  54.3% violent crime as defined by the FBI*).  In this case "cleared" means someone is arrested.  So think about it, if half of reported violent crimes are unsolved, what does that say about your statistics?  Also, I would hazard that a good many crimes go unreported as well.

/*Citatiion FBI Clearances 2011


...apparently black guys commit crimes we don't even know about?
 
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