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(Daily Mail)   Swedish professor nominates Edward Snowden for the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama administration responds by saying; "the nomination seems a bit premature" and suggests Snowden has actually set world peace back decades   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 58
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2013-07-15 12:06:20 PM
20 votes:
The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.
2013-07-15 01:07:40 PM
8 votes:
Yep, if anybody knows from first-hand experience about inappropriate awards of Nobel Peace Prizes, it's Obama.  And Henry Kissinger, of course.
2013-07-15 02:35:58 PM
7 votes:

Fano: WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.

...and scene.

One and done, flawless victory.


Actually since repeating the headline joke suggests a failure to get the headline I think the awarding to him the victory was premature.
2013-07-15 05:01:01 PM
5 votes:
urbangirl:

Living in a country that has "police problems" is very different from living in a "militaristic police state".  Engaging in that level of hyperbole makes the speaker sound ridiculous and demeans the experiences of all the people on this planet who really do live that horrible life.

Look, you seem sane, I have no beef with you, you're not the usual Fark toughguy farkwad.  I'm not engaging in hyperbole, nor am I a Matt Stafford RON PAUL sheeple!!1!! kind of guy.  This is really happening and it's been happening for decades. Yes, there are places that are worse, but that doesn't mean we dont have a real and present problem in America today. I would ask what criteria you would use to declare a country a "police state", because those criteria are all here.  If we aren't already, by any definition of the term, then we are close enough to the redline that any responsible American needs to pay more attention.

Highest incarceration rate in the world?
A for profit prison system?
Legislated restrictions on those with criminal records that prevents them finding work or housing? 
Teens in New York who can be stopped by police and physically desipte police having no probably cause whatsoever?
The business owner whose liquor license inspection is done by SWAT teams who first restrain all employees and customers on the premises to execute a regulatory inspection?
The tourist driving through SW Texas who's pulled over because the cop "smelled pot", has his car and cash taken from him by the police before being sent on his way with no restitution?
Citizens peacefully voicing opinions being driven out of public spaces by police using violence?
Not to mention the ever-present possibility that your internet usage could be deemed dangerous and you could be sent to Guantanamo.

All of these things happen to "other people", which is why people dont' get mad.  I'm not a black teen in NYC, I don't drive in TX with large amounts of cash, I'm not a trippy dippy Occupier, I'm not a terrorist.  If the government is allowed to do things to some people because they "deserve it", then those powers will eventually be used against people who don't deserve it.

I remember seeing the first images of police responding to Sandy Hook (I think it was SH, it was some school shooting).  The image with the article I read was of a police officer wearing green camo, full gear in place (including assault rifle, or whatever it's called, I'm sure someone will pop up to tell me how I'm wrong), his name badge reading POLICE, and I thought, "wait a minute.  When I was a kid, they would show us pictures of Russia and all those unfree places, and they always had soldiers everywhere.  We were told they did that to remind people of the power of the state, that it had a numbing effect on the people.  When I was kid  we were told to look for a police officer in uniform when we had a problem and didn't know what to do.  Now the police officer is dressed and armed like a soldier.  When did this start happening in America?"
2013-07-15 02:32:13 PM
5 votes:
This thread is like 4 drunk apes trying to fark the same football.
2013-07-15 02:19:57 PM
5 votes:

WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.


thatsthejoke.jpg
2013-07-15 02:29:13 PM
4 votes:
Daily Mail. Really don't care to read.
2013-07-15 04:50:17 PM
3 votes:

kindms: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Snowden should just come to the US and let the DOJ make its case in court. Good luck finding 12 jurors that will be willing to convict him.

He would spend probably 24 - 36 months in pre-trial solitary confinement. He would get the Bradley Manning treatment

The US Justice system is not something I would be willing to bet my life on.


Daniel Ellsberg, who leaked the Top Secret Pentagon papers showing that the Government had lied us into the Vietnam war, recently said the exact same thing:

Many people compare Edward Snowden to me unfavorably for leaving the country and seeking asylum, rather than facing trial as I did. I don't agree. The country I stayed in was a different America, a long time ago.

When I surrendered to arrest in Boston, having given out my last copies of the papers the night before, I was released on personal recognizance bond the same day. Later, when my charges were increased from the original three counts to 12, carrying a possible 115-year sentence, my bond was increased to $50,000. But for the whole two years I was under indictment, I was free to speak to the media and at rallies and public lectures. I was, after all, part of a movement against an ongoing war. Helping to end that war was my preeminent concern. I couldn't have done that abroad, and leaving the country never entered my mind.

There is no chance that experience could be reproduced today.

He would almost certainly be confined in total isolation, even longer than the more than eight months Manning suffered during his three years of imprisonment before his trial began recently. The United Nations Special Rapporteur for Torture described Manning's conditions as "cruel, inhuman and degrading." (That realistic prospect, by itself, is grounds for most countries granting Snowden asylum, if they could withstand bullying and bribery from the United States.)

Snowden believes that he has done nothing wrong. I agree wholeheartedly. More than 40 years after my unauthorized disclosure of the Pentagon Papers, such leaks remain the lifeblood of a free press and our republic. One lesson of the Pentagon Papers and Snowden's leaks is simple: secrecy corrupts, just as power corrupts.
2013-07-15 04:30:24 PM
3 votes:

Infobahn: He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.


You know who else is a felon?

dl.dropboxusercontent.com

The head of Obama's spy program, for lying under oath to Congress.

He's right where we know where he is, too.

Why hasn't he been arrested yet?

/This has nothing to do with legal or illegal
//This has everything to do with embarrassing those in power
2013-07-15 02:40:06 PM
3 votes:

WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.


I was going to make that joke, but Obama beat us all to it by like 5 years.  It's hard to make a "he would know" joke when he actually does know and basically called out the committee for being stupid with his  own nomination (politely, but still).

That said, peace prizes are rarely granted to people that  don't throw a wrench into international diplomacy a bit in the course of their lives.  While Snowden hardly merits one just for being a whistleblower, the fact that he's forced some nations to think a bit outside the box diplomatically is not what disqualifies him.
2013-07-15 02:30:47 PM
3 votes:

WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.


...and scene.

One and done, flawless victory.
2013-07-15 05:43:56 PM
2 votes:
It's true that we all knew NSA had the capability to surveil Americans.  There's a new article up at CNET (yes it is that Declan guy) trying to tell the tech companies' side, making the point that they chose to build backdoors for NSA because the alternative was worse.  If they refused, they say, the capability would be imposed on them (engineers from a government agency would show up and install hardware).

Knowing that NSA had the capability was still compatible with believing that it was being used against communications of US persons in a targeted manner.  We knew they could seize almost all our electronic papers and effects; there was no proof that they were in fact doing so to each and every mother's son.
2013-07-15 03:46:56 PM
2 votes:

ZoeNekros: This whole idea the Obama should not have won the prize simply because he had just started his presidency is stupid. People do not win the Nobel Prize for presidenting. They get them for being vocal and influential voices for noble causes (often by just giving speeches or writing essays). He was that before he was elected. What he does as president is beside the point. You might think that since he's done things that should disqualify him from being awarded the prize, but nominations don't take future actions into account. If you think they should, take it up with the committee, and give them access to your time machine.


He was awarded the NPP for one reason and one reason alone: as a giant "f**k you" to his predecessor's administration.

/little did they know
2013-07-15 03:31:21 PM
2 votes:
The NSA & Homeland security spying on the U.S. and generally monitoring our every move is nothing but fascism in action.

Everyone who is equating this behavior by these agencies as something that promotes freedom or security is simply wrong.

Exposing this wrong doing and criminal activity by these agencies is an obligation to anyone who believes in liberty and freedom.
2013-07-15 03:30:02 PM
2 votes:
Exposing a crime should not be a crime.

Need to put that on a bumper sticker.
2013-07-15 03:15:48 PM
2 votes:

Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.


I doubt a "Liberal" like you would have been conflicted if a Republican was in charge.
2013-07-15 03:15:27 PM
2 votes:
I really don't like the idea of the NSA being able to spy on whoever the fark they want to in this country.  As far as I'm concerned, Snowden is a farking hero, like many whistle blowers.
2013-07-15 02:52:08 PM
2 votes:

ZoeNekros: This whole idea the Obama should not have won the prize simply because he had just started his presidency is stupid. People do not win the Nobel Prize for presidenting. They get them for being vocal and influential voices for noble causes (often by just giving speeches or writing essays). He was that before he was elected. What he does as president is beside the point. You might think that since he's done things that should disqualify him from being awarded the prize, but nominations don't take future actions into account. If you think they should, take it up with the committee, and give them access to your time machine.


Ill bite, what did he do to deserve it
2013-07-15 02:47:00 PM
2 votes:
This makes sense, I think.  He should get the prize.

I mean, sure, Snowden is a lying, self serving douche that didn't tell anyone who was paying any attention at all anything they didn't already know.  He just hinted that we should fundamentally change the system, when anyone knows that real change is impossible.  He played us for fools just for his own ego trip.

Wait, did I say Snowden?

I meant the other guy.
2013-07-15 02:37:04 PM
2 votes:

Raging Whore Moans: Does Obama have to give his up because of Benghazi?


well, "common decency" doesn't seem to have been a motive to do so.
2013-07-15 02:36:07 PM
2 votes:
The Obama administration should shut the frak up about this before they end up looking really stupid.
2013-07-15 02:33:58 PM
2 votes:

karmaceutical: This thread is like 4 drunk apes trying to fark the same football.


Which makes it different from any other Fark thread.... how, exactly?
2013-07-15 02:31:50 PM
2 votes:
Anyone can nominate anyone.  I believe both Hitler and Stalin were nominated.
2013-07-16 07:38:55 AM
1 votes:

Griftin Rubes: WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.

i would hardly call forcing the war mongering Republicans out of the white house "premature"


For all the Republicans 'war mongering'....more US Soldiers have died on Obama's watch then during all 3 Bush terms (both Sr. and Jr.). Democrats don't give 2 shiats about US Soldiers. Ended the War....'maybe', killed more US Soldiers than both Bushes...without a doubt.
2013-07-15 06:02:35 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.


No. Why should he be crushed for exposing criminal behavior in the government? The US and its allies are starting to resemble the Soviet Union in some ways and it's about time someone spoke up.
2013-07-15 05:56:08 PM
1 votes:

4tehsnowflakes: It's true that we all knew NSA had the capability to surveil Americans.  There's a new article up at CNET (yes it is that Declan guy) trying to tell the tech companies' side, making the point that they chose to build backdoors for NSA because the alternative was worse.  If they refused, they say, the capability would be imposed on them (engineers from a government agency would show up and install hardware).

Knowing that NSA had the capability was still compatible with believing that it was being used against communications of US persons in a targeted manner.  We knew they could seize almost all our electronic papers and effects; there was no proof that they were in fact doing so to each and every mother's son.


Leaving aside the fact that they consistently lied and said they would never do such a thing.

Even when testifying under oath before the Congressional committee that was explicitly given oversight authority under US law after the last time they got caught red handed breaking the law and spying on Americans.

They lied to Congress. They lied to the public. They lied under oath.

They deserve to be in prison.
2013-07-15 05:43:11 PM
1 votes:
"It would have been much more peaceful around here if you had never found out about all times I drugged and anally raped you."
2013-07-15 05:38:35 PM
1 votes:

neversubmit: "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." -Eleanor Roosevelt

This is why fark.com keeps me laughing.


lol, I am going to have to remember that one
2013-07-15 05:13:44 PM
1 votes:

Uncle Tractor: Griftin Rubes: i would hardly call forcing the war mongering Republicans out of the white house "premature"

It wasn't Obama who did that; it was the US voters. They were the ones who should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize; "...for voting the Republicans out of the White House ..." The US ambassador  could have picked it up on their behalf.

As a norwegian, I had to check to see whether it was April 1st when I heard about Obama getting the peace award. Still, it has been given to far worse people.


Maybe worse, but none more incompetent
2013-07-15 04:58:03 PM
1 votes:

King Something: karmaceutical: This thread is like 4 drunk apes trying to fark the same football.

Which makes it different from any other Fark thread.... how, exactly?


www.quotehd.com

/Football and Mitch are/were awesome.
2013-07-15 04:45:28 PM
1 votes:

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Snowden should just come to the US and let the DOJ make its case in court. Good luck finding 12 jurors that will be willing to convict him.


I think he should, thought I'm afraid that he won't be tried fairly, perhaps even tossed in GITMO for being an enemy f the state.

Can we trust rule of law anymore?  Because it seems that men just use power and money to rewrite the rules in their favor.

For example, did you know that nat gas fracking companies are exempt from the clean water act?  For no real reason.

That sounds more like rule of man than rule of law to me.

There are a million examples of desire and designs overruling law if you want to argue that one. It's just one I thought of just now.

And the heads of both parties WANT to see Snowden tried, and hanged, as a traitor.

Can we trust that he won't just get a show trial, or worse?

Can we expect him to trust that?
2013-07-15 04:42:13 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.

No.

So eloquent.

Let me ask you:  Are you ok with the massive spying the US government is conducting on the American people?  Because I'm not.  And, no, I don't want to "crush Snowden".

Am I okay with it?  No, but I was never naive to think it hasn't happened before this.  Why is this a big deal now?  We beg to be protected, and then cry when they do it.  I just finished receiving all of my FOIA requests back, and I am a boring person.  I know they have been collecting information on me, and the government started collecting it with my birth certificate.

Snowden broke the law.  I don't care what his intentions were.  He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.  There is no gray area, he knew what he was doing was wrong, and now he is running away like a coward.  There is nothing brave about what he has done, he is an attention whore and nothing else.


While he may have broken the law, Bradley Manning has shown us all what happens when you ruffle the feather of the US government.  Snowden knows that the US has shown itself willing to torture someone for releasing classified information.  He knows he will face un-Constitutional punishments for his actions in exposing un-Constitutional actions. I don't see this as being cowardly, I would say that not doing anything and letting the status quo trudge along would have been cowardly.

That said, he may be an asshat.  He may be a saint, I don't know the guy, I don't care which one he is.  But I'm glad someone was able to raise this issue to the national level it needs to be at, instead of letting it fester in the dark like it had been for years.
2013-07-15 04:39:40 PM
1 votes:

Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Snowden should just come to the US and let the DOJ make its case in court. Good luck finding 12 jurors that will be willing to convict him.


He would spend probably 24 - 36 months in pre-trial solitary confinement. He would get the Bradley Manning treatment

The US Justice system is not something I would be willing to bet my life on.
2013-07-15 04:28:31 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: Really, would you like me to think "outside of the box"?


Naw, that's asking to much.

I'd just like you to think.
2013-07-15 04:25:42 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.

No.

So eloquent.

Let me ask you:  Are you ok with the massive spying the US government is conducting on the American people?  Because I'm not.  And, no, I don't want to "crush Snowden".

Am I okay with it?   No, but I was never naive to think it hasn't happened before this.  Why is this a big deal now? We beg to be protected, and then cry when they do it.  I just finished receiving all of my FOIA requests back, and I am a boring person.  I know they have been collecting information on me, and the government started collecting it with my birth certificate.

Snowden broke the law.  I don't care what his intentions were.  He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.  There is no gray area, he knew what he was doing was wrong, and now he is running away like a coward.  There is nothing brave about what he has done, he is an attention whore and nothing else.


You understand that the data collection the government is doing is unprecedented, right?  There was an article that people keep posting from 2006 that reported the NSA conducting phone surveillance on 10's of millions.  That clearly has expanded to much more than that.

The continuous erosion of our civil liberties needs to stop and go the other way.

Yeah, Snowden broke the law.  So what?  What more criminal is  the US government disregard of our Constitutional rights.

Attention whore?  Really?  He gave up his whole life and is now a hunted man and up against the whole of the US government.  That's attention whoring anyone would want.

Look, we're on different sides on this one.  If you want to give up your privacy, you go the fark ahead.  I don't.  And I don't like what the government is doing.
2013-07-15 04:19:49 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.


Yep.

There is no gray area,

Nope.

he knew what he was doing was wrong,

Nope.

and now he is running away like a coward.

Yep.

There is nothing brave about what he has done, he is an attention whore and nothing else.

Nope.

Also, you are a black and white thinking douche.
2013-07-15 04:16:29 PM
1 votes:

AeAe: Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.

No.

So eloquent.

Let me ask you:  Are you ok with the massive spying the US government is conducting on the American people?  Because I'm not.  And, no, I don't want to "crush Snowden".


Am I okay with it?  No, but I was never naive to think it hasn't happened before this.  Why is this a big deal now?  We beg to be protected, and then cry when they do it.  I just finished receiving all of my FOIA requests back, and I am a boring person.  I know they have been collecting information on me, and the government started collecting it with my birth certificate.

Snowden broke the law.  I don't care what his intentions were.  He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.  There is no gray area, he knew what he was doing was wrong, and now he is running away like a coward.  There is nothing brave about what he has done, he is an attention whore and nothing else.
2013-07-15 04:10:45 PM
1 votes:

BigNumber12: sendtodave: Sooooo... What do you suggest to enact real change?

Why would we want that?


Fair enough.

Status quo we can believe in!
2013-07-15 04:01:05 PM
1 votes:

fireclown: The Obama administration should shut the frak up about this before they end up looking really stupid.


If Obama had a Peace Prize, it would look like Snowden's.

Since you mentioned Obama's need to shut up before he looks stupid.
2013-07-15 03:48:24 PM
1 votes:

Pants full of macaroni!!: ZoeNekros: This whole idea the Obama should not have won the prize simply because he had just started his presidency is stupid. People do not win the Nobel Prize for presidenting. They get them for being vocal and influential voices for noble causes (often by just giving speeches or writing essays). He was that before he was elected. What he does as president is beside the point. You might think that since he's done things that should disqualify him from being awarded the prize, but nominations don't take future actions into account. If you think they should, take it up with the committee, and give them access to your time machine.

He was awarded the NPP for one reason and one reason alone: as a giant "f**k you" to his predecessor's administration.

/little did they know


So, an Snowden get the award as a giant fark you to the Obama administration?

Seems fair.
2013-07-15 03:41:34 PM
1 votes:

urbangirl: A Dark Evil Omen: qorkfiend: Ned Stark: sendtodave: So.

Would dismantling the NSA... and the  CIA, FBI... military industrial all that...  Advance world peace?

Would weakening the USA advance world peace, or harm it?

LIBERAL THROW DOWN!

Is a weaker United States good for the rest of the world?

Yes.

Good, at least in the long run? Probably.
Peaceful? Definitely not.

Oh, yeah, it's so very peaceful now. I suppose the militarized police state makes it peaceful outside your front door as long as you don't say anything or do anything to upset anyone in power or are a minority or dress funny or...

Militarized police state?  Where do you live?  Pakistan?


...

In the late 90s, when I was a teenager,,

(old man story to follow.  expect onion belts)

I grew up in the poorest neighborhood of the richest county in the country.  When I was a teenage nerd I used to like to hang out at the local Denny's to late hours, drinking coffee and talking about things that would someday never change the world.

Every night that I was out past midnight, and I walked home, I would be stopped by the police.  And they demanded my ID, on threat of "going back to the station."

Every friggen time.  And I'm a white guy!  In the 90s!

"Oh, well, there have been a lot of cars broken into in this neighborhood.  We need to insinuate that you may be a criminal, because you are walking at odd hours!  WTF are you going to do about it?"

I told my father about this recently, and he popped an old man gasket.  "They did WHAT?"

Me?  I just figured it was normal to get stopped by the police, questioned and searched.

Imagine how a black guy feels.  Or a Mexican.

Yeah.

I'm thinking police state.
2013-07-15 03:34:22 PM
1 votes:

Griftin Rubes: WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.

i would hardly call forcing the war mongering Republicans out of the white house "premature"


Obama did that, did he? Tell me you don't vote.
2013-07-15 03:29:19 PM
1 votes:

pnome: Don't worry about him.  He just doesn't have his head on straight.


Ned Stark might not have his head on straight, but aren't you at least a little curious why he hates us? I know I am. There must be a valid reason why, in his eyes, everyone but him is an 'asshole'. I asked him... I hope he tells us his tragic story of oppression and malfeasance.
2013-07-15 03:21:29 PM
1 votes:

JohnnyC: Ned Stark: sendtodave: So.

Would dismantling the NSA... and the  CIA, FBI... military industrial all that...  Advance world peace?

Would weakening the USA advance world peace, or harm it?

LIBERAL THROW DOWN!

Is a weaker United States good for the rest of the world?

Yes.

One of those guys, eh Ned? You know... instead of wishing your fellow Americans and your country ill will, you could just leave. You know, go to wherever it is you think is better.


Don't worry about him.  He just doesn't have his head on straight.
2013-07-15 03:17:05 PM
1 votes:

Ned Stark: sendtodave: So.

Would dismantling the NSA... and the  CIA, FBI... military industrial all that...  Advance world peace?

Would weakening the USA advance world peace, or harm it?

LIBERAL THROW DOWN!

Is a weaker United States good for the rest of the world?

Yes.


One of those guys, eh Ned? You know... instead of wishing your fellow Americans and your country ill will, you could just leave. You know, go to wherever it is you think is better.
2013-07-15 03:01:05 PM
1 votes:
The Nobel Peace Prize has been a joke for decades
2013-07-15 02:59:04 PM
1 votes:

Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.


Suuuuure, you're a "Liberal"...
2013-07-15 02:55:39 PM
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: Its one thing to bring the spying to the attention of the people (good)... its entirely different to then give stolen files and shiat to our enemys (bad)


Indeed, but he's being punished for letting the American populace know about it. You can bet our enemies already knew they were being spied on.
2013-07-15 02:52:06 PM
1 votes:

Joe Blowme: Its one thing to bring the spying to the attention of the people (good)... its entirely different to then give stolen files and shiat to our enemys (bad)


Orly? And what is your cunning plan?
2013-07-15 02:47:24 PM
1 votes:
When politicians say "peace", you do know what that really means, eh?

Politico Speak, Cop Math, Justice,,,
The Master said, "It's all bullchit, and it's bad for you!"
2013-07-15 02:46:48 PM
1 votes:
imgon.net
picture of that swedish professor
2013-07-15 02:42:14 PM
1 votes:
FTFM:

Svallfors compares Snowden's act to the rulings in the Nuremberg trials of 1945 because 'I was just following orders' was not held as a viable excuse for the Nazis who carried out human rights atrocities.


Really?  The actions of the NSA are the moral equivalent of the Nazi holocaust?


Svallfors also believes this will help the Peace Prize regain some of respect it lost after prematurely awarding Barack Obama the award in 2009.

Ah.  And there we have it.
2013-07-15 02:39:33 PM
1 votes:
how the fark is it " Done in one " when commenter onry repeats submitterer
2013-07-15 02:38:20 PM
1 votes:

Raging Whore Moans: Does Obama have to give his up because of Benghazi?


He should have given it up for many reasons.  The fact that he got the peace prize in the first place cheapens the damn award.
2013-07-15 02:35:11 PM
1 votes:
If Kissinger, Obama, and Arafat can win it, then anything goes, I guess.
2013-07-15 02:34:15 PM
1 votes:
Does Obama have to give his up because of Benghazi?
2013-07-15 02:33:22 PM
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Tomorrow's Headline: Swedish Professor Arrested By Authorities For "Rape".
2013-07-15 02:31:49 PM
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Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.
 
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