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(Daily Mail)   Swedish professor nominates Edward Snowden for the Nobel Peace Prize. Obama administration responds by saying; "the nomination seems a bit premature" and suggests Snowden has actually set world peace back decades   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 286
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2013-07-15 04:55:14 PM
Do they give a prize for attempted peace?
 
2013-07-15 04:58:03 PM

King Something: karmaceutical: This thread is like 4 drunk apes trying to fark the same football.

Which makes it different from any other Fark thread.... how, exactly?


www.quotehd.com

/Football and Mitch are/were awesome.
 
2013-07-15 04:58:04 PM
This thread is like watching Alex Jones fark Ariana Huffington.
 
2013-07-15 04:58:21 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: And yes, I have used the phrases "hegemony" and "hegemonic" more than I have fair reason to in my life, though at least I had the shame not to use the phrase "hegemon" in a sentence composed in English.


Dude.  It's a word.

heg·e·mon (h j-m n) n. One that exercises hegemony.

Feel free to substitute "Unipower," "hyperpower," "lone superpower," or some other shiat to describe the US if you like.

I thought "hegemon" seemed the least douchy.
 
2013-07-15 04:58:45 PM

sendtodave: Has anyone mentioned that Obama prematurely received a Nobel Peace Prize?

I hope Snowden gets one. Based on the merits of standing up to the hegemon regarding privacy rights, and also (OK, mostly) for the lulz.


He is a worthless lowlife.
omework01
When he gave his oath to the service, he apparently crossed his fingers. I am all for a firing squad.

If however, a source was developed not in service and gave detail to the media, I would not have issue with that.

Snowden deserves the chair. He has no ethics, and he chose to give information to the not so pro-American countries. As far as I am concerned... he is a traitor, and deserves that level of respect.

If you word is your bond, he has none......

Personally? I think he was not able\ to hack it as even a low level military person and decided this was his exit opportunity for a better life. And he has no honor.

My opinion is only worth as far as you would throw it... but ten years of service allows me to have a background to have a valid one. And yes, I was in a similar position, but did the right things. Obviously he does not know right from wrong.

Are there individuals at a high level that need exposure? Yes. Is a low level skunk like Snowden a "right" candidate to be the one exposing?

I don't think so.

He is a disgrace to his family and his country.
 
2013-07-15 05:00:43 PM
I like the way the guy whose fark handle evokes fluctuations in the stock market shifted the discussion to whether Clapper committed perjury.  The shills and trolls are still trying to keep the focus on Snowden, the individual, and away from the abortion he helped to expose.  Likelihood of US v. Clapper approximately the same as of 4ts hooking up with Selena Gomez.
 
2013-07-15 05:01:01 PM
urbangirl:

Living in a country that has "police problems" is very different from living in a "militaristic police state".  Engaging in that level of hyperbole makes the speaker sound ridiculous and demeans the experiences of all the people on this planet who really do live that horrible life.

Look, you seem sane, I have no beef with you, you're not the usual Fark toughguy farkwad.  I'm not engaging in hyperbole, nor am I a Matt Stafford RON PAUL sheeple!!1!! kind of guy.  This is really happening and it's been happening for decades. Yes, there are places that are worse, but that doesn't mean we dont have a real and present problem in America today. I would ask what criteria you would use to declare a country a "police state", because those criteria are all here.  If we aren't already, by any definition of the term, then we are close enough to the redline that any responsible American needs to pay more attention.

Highest incarceration rate in the world?
A for profit prison system?
Legislated restrictions on those with criminal records that prevents them finding work or housing? 
Teens in New York who can be stopped by police and physically desipte police having no probably cause whatsoever?
The business owner whose liquor license inspection is done by SWAT teams who first restrain all employees and customers on the premises to execute a regulatory inspection?
The tourist driving through SW Texas who's pulled over because the cop "smelled pot", has his car and cash taken from him by the police before being sent on his way with no restitution?
Citizens peacefully voicing opinions being driven out of public spaces by police using violence?
Not to mention the ever-present possibility that your internet usage could be deemed dangerous and you could be sent to Guantanamo.

All of these things happen to "other people", which is why people dont' get mad.  I'm not a black teen in NYC, I don't drive in TX with large amounts of cash, I'm not a trippy dippy Occupier, I'm not a terrorist.  If the government is allowed to do things to some people because they "deserve it", then those powers will eventually be used against people who don't deserve it.

I remember seeing the first images of police responding to Sandy Hook (I think it was SH, it was some school shooting).  The image with the article I read was of a police officer wearing green camo, full gear in place (including assault rifle, or whatever it's called, I'm sure someone will pop up to tell me how I'm wrong), his name badge reading POLICE, and I thought, "wait a minute.  When I was a kid, they would show us pictures of Russia and all those unfree places, and they always had soldiers everywhere.  We were told they did that to remind people of the power of the state, that it had a numbing effect on the people.  When I was kid  we were told to look for a police officer in uniform when we had a problem and didn't know what to do.  Now the police officer is dressed and armed like a soldier.  When did this start happening in America?"
 
2013-07-15 05:02:14 PM

Griftin Rubes: how the fark is it " Done in one " when commenter onry repeats submitterer


Don't you know any better than to walk in the middle of a circle jerk? With such a pudtastic headline, it's a wonder we didn't see even more. "Duh-huh-Bama is one to talk!" And, since Obama said no such thing, the monkeys look even poo-throwier than ever.
 
2013-07-15 05:02:33 PM

A Dark Evil Omen: sendtodave: qorkfiend: Fano: ...and Gandhi never got one.

They don't award it posthumously, and I'm not surprised a bunch of Europeans in the late 1940s weren't too keen on giving the award to someone who thought India shouldn't be involved in WWII, however good his reasons were.

Eh.  Not many people know who gets the Peace Prize award.

Ghandi got the Ghandi award.  It is instantly recognizable, and allows you to cut to the front of the line at downtown clubs.

He's a one-man wrecking crew, but he also knows how to PARTY!

There is only one law: HIS law!


ecx.images-amazon.com
 
2013-07-15 05:03:36 PM

JerkyMeat:
Exposing this wrong doing and criminal activity by these agencies is an obligation to anyone who believes in liberty and freedom.


The rule of law does not apply to the rich and powerful.

It's been widely proven that banks fraudulently forged loans, misrepresented those bad loans as save investments on the international markets.

Not ONE multinational banking executive is in prison. Not one.

Seriously. The wealthy -- especially from intergenerational wealth-- genuinely feel their entitled to it and their power. Our system has replaced the monarchy by blood with of money.
 
2013-07-15 05:04:02 PM

TelemonianAjax: All of these things happen to "other people", which is why people dont' get mad.


Smarted.
 
2013-07-15 05:04:30 PM

Slaxl: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Snowden should just come to the US and let the DOJ make its case in court. Good luck finding 12 jurors that will be willing to convict him.

Unfortunately, reading Fark, I get the impressing finding 12 that wouldn't convict would be more difficult.

Saddest part is I reckon a number of people on both sides would switch sides if the President had a different letter next to his name.


Exactly.

Daniel Ellsberg, the whistle blower who leaked the Top Secret Pentagon papers under Nixon has been a HUGE hero to the left for decades.

However, since Obama has once again embraced part of the Bush agenda and restarted Bush's Total Information Awareness program (which Democrats in Congress explicitly shut down under Bush as an obscene attack on the Constitution) we get asshats deciding they must defend spying on Americans and attack whistle blowers.

/because Obama
 
2013-07-15 05:05:01 PM

lohphat: The rule of law does not apply to the rich and powerful.


Then it... isn't a rule of law... OH GOD MY BRAIN JUST BROKE.
 
2013-07-15 05:05:38 PM

Ned Stark: JohnnyC: Ned Stark: sendtodave: So.

Would dismantling the NSA... and the  CIA, FBI... military industrial all that...  Advance world peace?

Would weakening the USA advance world peace, or harm it?

LIBERAL THROW DOWN!

Is a weaker United States good for the rest of the world?

Yes.

One of those guys, eh Ned? You know... instead of wishing your fellow Americans and your country ill will, you could just leave. You know, go to wherever it is you think is better.

So I have to abandon my home because I was born next to a bunch of assholes? Nah, that's OK, I think I'll stick around.


Everybody gets born near at least one of them.
 
2013-07-15 05:06:43 PM

Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: If your hero is someone that does something and has to run and hide, then your definition of heroes are pretty messed up.

So you're saying that Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln, etc. were not heroes? Or are you saying that they wouldn't have been heroes if they had decided to run instead of being hunted down and killed?

You did not just compare Snowden to Gandhi, MLK and Lincoln.  WOW.

That's correct, I did not. I'm pointing out that your definition of "hero" is seriously flawed.

1/10


Yes, I'd give your reading ability a 10% too. Now do you have any actual reply, or is being confronted with ideas that challenge your worldview so heinous that denial is your only response?
 
2013-07-15 05:07:33 PM

AeAe: Infobahn: 4tehsnowflakes: sendtodave: Infobahn: He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.

Yep.

Presumption of innocence, Dave -- accused or alleged felon.  There are various defenses Snowden could raise in addition to the whistleblower statute.  Re not facing the US justice system, is it cowardly? It's not in the mold of Ellsberg, but how much more is it reasonable to ask him to give up (in addition to never being able to return home or travel to many countries) in return for helping organizations like ACLU and EFF get the documents they need to challenge the surveillance in court?  In that case at least there will be something like an equal playing field, our best lawyers against theirs with the rights of everyone at stake.  In the case of United States v. Snowden, the question whether what he helped expose was illegal would not be the central question and might not even determine whether he himself is found guilty of crimes.

Fine, he needs to come back and face prosecution for any crimes deemed relevant by the courts.  He is innocent before guilty, but he isn't acting very innocent.

He should have thought about his need for freedom more before he went off and did something he knew he would be prosecuted for.

You're either very naive or willfully ignorant.  He won't get a fair trial.


Neither.  As I stated before, he should have thought about the consequences for his actions.  The ones that are naive or willfully ignorant are those holding up Snowden as a hero.
 
2013-07-15 05:08:57 PM

BullBearMS: Slaxl: Spike Lee's Favorite Farker: Snowden should just come to the US and let the DOJ make its case in court. Good luck finding 12 jurors that will be willing to convict him.

Unfortunately, reading Fark, I get the impressing finding 12 that wouldn't convict would be more difficult.

Saddest part is I reckon a number of people on both sides would switch sides if the President had a different letter next to his name.

Exactly.

Daniel Ellsberg, the whistle blower who leaked the Top Secret Pentagon papers under Nixon has been a HUGE hero to the left for decades.

However, since Obama has once again embraced part of the Bush agenda and restarted Bush's Total Information Awareness program (which Democrats in Congress explicitly shut down under Bush as an obscene attack on the Constitution) we get asshats deciding they must defend spying on Americans and attack whistle blowers.

/because Obama


You have social libertairan liberals, and you have Democrats.  They sometimes overlap.  It's a Venn diagram, really.

Now you know how it feels to be a Goldwater, let-alone conservative.  The party will put you down for weakening them.  Better to just go along with the madness.

Man, Obama is great!
 
2013-07-15 05:09:35 PM

MrEricSir: Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: If your hero is someone that does something and has to run and hide, then your definition of heroes are pretty messed up.

So you're saying that Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln, etc. were not heroes? Or are you saying that they wouldn't have been heroes if they had decided to run instead of being hunted down and killed?

You did not just compare Snowden to Gandhi, MLK and Lincoln.  WOW.

That's correct, I did not. I'm pointing out that your definition of "hero" is seriously flawed.

1/10

Yes, I'd give your reading ability a 10% too. Now do you have any actual reply, or is being confronted with ideas that challenge your worldview so heinous that denial is your only response?


You have no intelligent way of tying in Lincoln et al to what Snowden did.
 
2013-07-15 05:09:51 PM

CasperImproved: When he gave his oath to the service, he apparently crossed his fingers. I am all for a firing squad.


I feel that way about the oath to protect and defend the Constitution that all the elected members of our Federal Government take.

However, for the guy exposing those elected official's treason to that oath?

Not so much.
 
2013-07-15 05:13:26 PM

Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: If your hero is someone that does something and has to run and hide, then your definition of heroes are pretty messed up.

So you're saying that Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln, etc. were not heroes? Or are you saying that they wouldn't have been heroes if they had decided to run instead of being hunted down and killed?

You did not just compare Snowden to Gandhi, MLK and Lincoln.  WOW.

That's correct, I did not. I'm pointing out that your definition of "hero" is seriously flawed.

1/10

Yes, I'd give your reading ability a 10% too. Now do you have any actual reply, or is being confronted with ideas that challenge your worldview so heinous that denial is your only response?

You have no intelligent way of tying in Lincoln et al to what Snowden did.


Which is fine, because I didn't do that. You could go back and read my post if that wasn't clear. How is that denial working out for you?
 
2013-07-15 05:13:44 PM

Uncle Tractor: Griftin Rubes: i would hardly call forcing the war mongering Republicans out of the white house "premature"

It wasn't Obama who did that; it was the US voters. They were the ones who should have been given the Nobel Peace Prize; "...for voting the Republicans out of the White House ..." The US ambassador  could have picked it up on their behalf.

As a norwegian, I had to check to see whether it was April 1st when I heard about Obama getting the peace award. Still, it has been given to far worse people.


Maybe worse, but none more incompetent
 
2013-07-15 05:16:20 PM

sendtodave: I grew up in the poorest neighborhood of the richest county in the country.


What neighborhood, in which country? and why are you in China now, comrade?
 
2013-07-15 05:19:18 PM

Infobahn: AeAe: Infobahn: 4tehsnowflakes: sendtodave: Infobahn: He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.

Yep.

Presumption of innocence, Dave -- accused or alleged felon.  There are various defenses Snowden could raise in addition to the whistleblower statute.  Re not facing the US justice system, is it cowardly? It's not in the mold of Ellsberg, but how much more is it reasonable to ask him to give up (in addition to never being able to return home or travel to many countries) in return for helping organizations like ACLU and EFF get the documents they need to challenge the surveillance in court?  In that case at least there will be something like an equal playing field, our best lawyers against theirs with the rights of everyone at stake.  In the case of United States v. Snowden, the question whether what he helped expose was illegal would not be the central question and might not even determine whether he himself is found guilty of crimes.

Fine, he needs to come back and face prosecution for any crimes deemed relevant by the courts.  He is innocent before guilty, but he isn't acting very innocent.

He should have thought about his need for freedom more before he went off and did something he knew he would be prosecuted for.

You're either very naive or willfully ignorant.  He won't get a fair trial.

Neither.  As I stated before, he should have thought about the consequences for his actions.  The ones that are naive or willfully ignorant are those holding up Snowden as a hero.


He did, that's why he ran out of reach of the US government.  Do you honestly think he would be able to expose this government's unconstitutional spying if he stayed and got caught?   Be honest.
 
2013-07-15 05:23:44 PM
I'd this real life?

Also rayciss
 
2013-07-15 05:24:24 PM
Libya.
 
2013-07-15 05:26:58 PM

Infobahn: Snowden broke the law.  I don't care what his intentions were.  He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.  There is no gray area, he knew what he was doing was wrong, and now he is running away like a coward.  There is nothing brave about what he has done, he is an attention whore and nothing else.


Sounds like you expected him to just follow orders.
 
2013-07-15 05:28:34 PM

AeAe: He did, that's why he ran out of reach of the US government.  Do you honestly think he would be able to expose this government's unconstitutional spying if he stayed and got caught?   Be honest.


So Snowden is innocent until proven guilty but the government is guilty until proven innocent?
 
2013-07-15 05:31:53 PM

BullBearMS: Infobahn: He is a felon and he needs to man up and take his punishment.

You know who else is a felon?



The head of Obama's spy program, for lying under oath to Congress.

He's right where we know where he is, too.

Why hasn't he been arrested yet?

/This has nothing to do with legal or illegal
//This has everything to do with embarrassing those in power


THIS
 
2013-07-15 05:33:07 PM

Science_Guy_3.14159: sendtodave: Griftin Rubes: how the fark is it " Done in one " when commenter onry repeats submitterer

Done in zero?

SNOWDEN FOR PRESIDENT

I hope you are trolling and not just an idiot, there are at least 3 reasons he can't legally run for president


Didn't stop the current one.
 
2013-07-15 05:34:12 PM

AeAe: He did, that's why he ran out of reach of the US government.  Do you honestly think he would be able to expose this government's unconstitutional spying if he stayed and got caught?   Be honest.


Honestly?  He could have released ALL of the information to the press straight out of the gate and acomplished his main goal.  He is just AWing it out to keep himself relevant, and failing.   The only reason he ran was he just didn't want to be locked away.  Period.  Heroes accept the consiquences of their actions, this asshat is a coward.

There are tens of thousands of people who have the same access and know better than to do this.  Snowden hasn't really stated anything we didn't already know, at least suspected.  I have worked with VR software for years, and know one provider that did a lot of the work for the VR system for the NSA.  It wasn't really a secret what it could do, and I wasn't naive to think it wasn't being used on us.

Am I happy about it?  Not really, but we bought this government and we choose not to take action.  If you are really concerned about your privacy, take was has been released and do something about it, but don't waste a moment of your time saving Snowden because he is a lost cause.
 
2013-07-15 05:34:49 PM
"Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." -Eleanor Roosevelt

This is why fark.com keeps me laughing.
 
2013-07-15 05:35:42 PM

Raging Whore Moans: Does Obama have to give his up because of Benghazi?


Considering he's not the one who slashed the security budget, I don't see why he should.
 
2013-07-15 05:36:17 PM

Infobahn: MrEricSir: Infobahn: If your hero is someone that does something and has to run and hide, then your definition of heroes are pretty messed up.

So you're saying that Gandhi, Martin Luther King, Abe Lincoln, etc. were not heroes? Or are you saying that they wouldn't have been heroes if they had decided to run instead of being hunted down and killed?

You did not just compare Snowden to Gandhi, MLK and Lincoln.  WOW.


How about comparing him to Mandela?
 
2013-07-15 05:37:18 PM

karmaceutical: This thread is like 4 drunk apes trying to fark the same football.


Can always spot a Liberal. Always manages to talk out of their ass.
 
2013-07-15 05:38:35 PM

neversubmit: "Great minds discuss ideas; Average minds discuss events; Small minds discuss people." -Eleanor Roosevelt

This is why fark.com keeps me laughing.


lol, I am going to have to remember that one
 
2013-07-15 05:39:47 PM

Infobahn: Honestly?  He could have released ALL of the information to the press straight out of the gate and acomplished his main goal.  He is just AWing it out to keep himself relevant, and failing.   The only reason he ran was  he just didn't want to be locked away.  Period.  Heroes accept the consiquences of their actions, this asshat is a coward.


No shiat.  I don't blame him for running.

As for this "hero" thing - personally, I don't know how to feel about that.  I do believe he did the right thing.
 
2013-07-15 05:43:11 PM
"It would have been much more peaceful around here if you had never found out about all times I drugged and anally raped you."
 
2013-07-15 05:43:56 PM
It's true that we all knew NSA had the capability to surveil Americans.  There's a new article up at CNET (yes it is that Declan guy) trying to tell the tech companies' side, making the point that they chose to build backdoors for NSA because the alternative was worse.  If they refused, they say, the capability would be imposed on them (engineers from a government agency would show up and install hardware).

Knowing that NSA had the capability was still compatible with believing that it was being used against communications of US persons in a targeted manner.  We knew they could seize almost all our electronic papers and effects; there was no proof that they were in fact doing so to each and every mother's son.
 
2013-07-15 05:54:14 PM

Science_Guy_3.14159: AeAe: He did, that's why he ran out of reach of the US government.  Do you honestly think he would be able to expose this government's unconstitutional spying if he stayed and got caught?   Be honest.

So Snowden is innocent until proven guilty but the government is guilty until proven innocent?


Uncommon good sense right there.
 
2013-07-15 05:56:08 PM

4tehsnowflakes: It's true that we all knew NSA had the capability to surveil Americans.  There's a new article up at CNET (yes it is that Declan guy) trying to tell the tech companies' side, making the point that they chose to build backdoors for NSA because the alternative was worse.  If they refused, they say, the capability would be imposed on them (engineers from a government agency would show up and install hardware).

Knowing that NSA had the capability was still compatible with believing that it was being used against communications of US persons in a targeted manner.  We knew they could seize almost all our electronic papers and effects; there was no proof that they were in fact doing so to each and every mother's son.


Leaving aside the fact that they consistently lied and said they would never do such a thing.

Even when testifying under oath before the Congressional committee that was explicitly given oversight authority under US law after the last time they got caught red handed breaking the law and spying on Americans.

They lied to Congress. They lied to the public. They lied under oath.

They deserve to be in prison.
 
2013-07-15 06:02:35 PM

Infobahn: Any other Liberals, like myself, who want to crush Snowden?  I am conflicted if I should feel conflicted.  I think this pinhead should see a courtroom (et al), soon.  I have other thoughts I will keep to myself.

I am going to Whole Foods now and pay too much for Kale.


No. Why should he be crushed for exposing criminal behavior in the government? The US and its allies are starting to resemble the Soviet Union in some ways and it's about time someone spoke up.
 
2013-07-15 06:08:12 PM
There are literally thousands of academics and  notable public intellectuals and thinkers who have the power to nominate anyone they choose. In the course of a year, you can get legitimate nominees as well as off the wall nominees.

Josef Stalin was nominated in 1945 and 1948 for the Peace Prize. Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/

Just because someone nominated someone for the peace prize means nothing. It doesn't matter unless it was actually considered by the Nobel committee.
 
2013-07-15 06:11:27 PM

RexTalionis: There are literally thousands of academics and  notable public intellectuals and thinkers who have the power to nominate anyone they choose. In the course of a year, you can get legitimate nominees as well as off the wall nominees.

Josef Stalin was nominated in 1945 and 1948 for the Peace Prize. Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/

Just because someone nominated someone for the peace prize means nothing. It doesn't matter unless it was actually considered by the Nobel committee.


I don't feel like clicking the link, can they nominate themselves?
 
2013-07-15 06:14:11 PM

Science_Guy_3.14159: RexTalionis: There are literally thousands of academics and  notable public intellectuals and thinkers who have the power to nominate anyone they choose. In the course of a year, you can get legitimate nominees as well as off the wall nominees.

Josef Stalin was nominated in 1945 and 1948 for the Peace Prize. Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939.

http://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/facts/peace/

Just because someone nominated someone for the peace prize means nothing. It doesn't matter unless it was actually considered by the Nobel committee.

I don't feel like clicking the link, can they nominate themselves?


Probably. There's no limitation on who they can nominate.
 
2013-07-15 06:27:15 PM

RexTalionis: osef Stalin was nominated in 1945 and 1948 for the Peace Prize. Adolf Hitler was nominated in 1939.


you know who else nominated edward snowden... wait.
 
2013-07-15 06:32:40 PM

Science_Guy_3.14159: I don't feel like clicking the link, can they nominate themselves?


I think I read a story about one guy who nominated his mother for the peace prize.
 
2013-07-15 06:36:37 PM
There seem to be a lot of "just following orders" advocates here. The true cowards are those who work for the government and don't report unethical or unconstitutional practices.
 
2013-07-15 07:03:40 PM

Griftin Rubes: WelldeadLink: The Obama administration has experience with premature Nobel Peace Prize awards.

i would hardly call forcing the war mongering Republicans out of the white house "premature"


Really, Obama and his fellow travelers should start their own wars to monger.
 
2013-07-15 07:04:03 PM
Didn't take them long to Godwin TFA....
 
2013-07-15 07:12:12 PM
The awards these nameless faceless scanditards hand out are real important to me so I'm gonna keep an eye on this one.
 
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