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2013-07-15 12:58:31 PM
U.S. to world: Don't bother our stuff we left on the moonin Studio 23
 
2013-07-15 01:33:01 PM
I really wish there was a was to fine legislators who introduce patently illegal bills like this one.
 
2013-07-15 01:40:53 PM
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2013-07-15 01:46:23 PM
When we go to the moon, we go there to plant flags and stuff. When the Chinese go to the moon, they go there to mine it.

Obviously our national values are at a disconnect with progress.
 
2013-07-15 02:01:06 PM
Who gives a rats asss about our junk when there's Helium 3 to bring back.
 
2013-07-15 02:02:39 PM
World to US: Try and stop us!

/put a velvet rope around those sites, at least.
 
2013-07-15 02:03:10 PM

Deep Contact


Who gives a rats asss about our junk when there's Helium 3 to bring back.


Pfft, Helium 1 and 2 sucked. I doubt 3 will be any better unless they get some new developers.
 
2013-07-15 02:03:11 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I really wish there was a was to fine legislators who introduce patently illegal bills like this one.


Clearly you hate Amerika.

Why don't we just  give the moon the Khinese?
 
2013-07-15 02:03:29 PM
One useless man is a disgrace;

Two become a law firm;

Three or more become a congress!
 
2013-07-15 02:03:53 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: When we go to the moon, we go there to plant flags and stuff. When the Chinese go to the moon, they go there to mine it.

Obviously our national values are at a disconnect with progress.


Yes, because China is NOT just another flash-in-the-pan like Japan, right? By 2025 they'll probably be back in the third world again.
 
2013-07-15 02:04:47 PM
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2013-07-15 02:06:46 PM
I have no problem with trying to protect the moon landing sites.  They should probably just skip to the World Heritage Site status though.

Also, I think this is a three-peat.
 
2013-07-15 02:07:53 PM
encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com

'If any of you touch me or my stuff, I'll kill you.'
 
2013-07-15 02:10:29 PM
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2013-07-15 02:11:16 PM
To be fair, it's probably a good idea to junk the 1967 Outer Space Treaty.

I'm sure other countries who are involved in space exploration would be okay with that.
 
2013-07-15 02:13:36 PM

BarkingUnicorn: I really wish there was a was to fine legislators who introduce patently illegal bills like this one.


I find the basis for your point to have some merit but ask myself "are they doing less harm by tinkering with nonsense?".  It's possible, though I am not sure.

Still, your initial idea is worth developing.  Please begin a newsletter campaign and ensure I am on the distribution list.  Let's see if this thing has legs.
 
2013-07-15 02:14:29 PM
I would say that we should keep our mouths shut until we have the ability to enforce it.
 
2013-07-15 02:16:43 PM
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2013-07-15 02:27:25 PM

darthgarlic: I would say that we should keep our mouths shut until we have the ability to enforce it.


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2013-07-15 02:27:32 PM
If Eddie Bernice Johnson is supporting it, that's very good evidence it's a bad idea.  She also supports sending taxpayer money directly to her family members.
 
2013-07-15 02:30:06 PM
Let's see.  The moon is about 250,000 miles away.  We went there in 1969.  The farthest out any astronaut has been since is a about 400 miles.
 
2013-07-15 02:31:00 PM
i.imgur.com

We're whaling on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But there ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whaling tune
 
2013-07-15 02:37:51 PM
I think Leno already has dibs on the space buggy.
 
2013-07-15 02:40:12 PM
In order to enforce this, we'd have to go back to the moon and do something about it.

So this has about as much force behind it as a Magikarp.
 
2013-07-15 02:42:28 PM
As I said in the last thread about this:

"You're quite right, almost no one signed up for the '79 treaty. A lot of nations - including the US - signed up for the '67 treaty called "Treaty on Principles Governing the Activities of States in the Exploration and Use of Outer Space, including the Moon and Other Celestial Bodies", and that one includes the following:

Article II

Outer space, including the Moon and other celestial bodies, is not subject to national appropriation by claim of sovereignty, by means of use or occupation, or by any other means.


Does establishing a national park mean that the US is claiming sovereignty? I have no idea, but I think lawyers, diplomats and politicians could spend years trying to figure out if the answer is yes or no. "
 
2013-07-15 02:44:35 PM
America - clean up your junk already.

Or don't complain if someone offers to clear the mess for you.
 
2013-07-15 02:55:20 PM
I always wondered if I set up a self sustaining moon colony and claimed the whole thing would anyone really care that much. No one has really tried to go back since the apollo missions stopped getting good ratings.
 
2013-07-15 02:58:05 PM
This all reminds me of my bro's comment to a US gamer mate celebrating Independence Day, his respose was "Whilst you celebrate your independence from the USA, give a thought to the rest of the world who are looking forward to their indepence from you."
 
2013-07-15 02:59:21 PM
This all reminds me of my bro's comment to a US gamer mate celebrating Independence Day, his respose was "Whilst you celebrate your independence from the USA, give a thought to the rest of the world who are looking forward to their indepence from you."

Ok that mistake is going to haunt me :P (damn late night drunk farking.)
 
2013-07-15 03:05:02 PM

Deep Contact: Who gives a rats asss about our junk when there's Helium 3 to bring back.


America does Nazi the value of Helium 3.
 
2013-07-15 03:09:23 PM
The moon belongs to America.
 
2013-07-15 03:13:40 PM
I heard Limbaugh mocking this last week. We'll see how funny it is when the flag is up on Ebay and the Chinese are photographed stepping on Armstrongs footstep.
 
2013-07-15 03:23:43 PM
All they are trying to say is "We don't want you breaking our stuff man".

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2013-07-15 03:28:29 PM
Eh, to make the site a "National Park" we'd have to insist that it was part of our nation and that we could enforce laws and rules about who can do what there.  Under current treaties, that just ain't gonna fly.

But here's an idea crazy enough it just might work dangit.  Insist that the actual objects are and remain US property.  Sort of the way sunken warships (not commercial vessels) remain property of their government in perpetuity, even in International Waters.
 
2013-07-15 03:34:51 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: [encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com image 240x180]

'If any of you touch me or my stuff, I'll kill you.'


Lighten up, Francis.


//somebody had to oblige.
 
2013-07-15 03:41:29 PM
Cleaned up a long time ago by these guys,
www.crazyabouttv.com

/Most of you probably weren't even around in '79 when this show was on,
 
2013-07-15 03:45:56 PM
While I do agree with protecting the historical sites, you cannot have a national park in an area that is not within your nations borders...   There would need to be some internationally recognizable way to claim lunar territory, and once you establish that, the flood gates will open with maybe dozens of nations all making simultaneous claims to sections of the lunar surface.  Sounds like a truly magnificent clusterfark in the making...
 
2013-07-15 03:46:13 PM
The US might want to not make too much noise about this, lest some Chinese astronaut decides to wipe his ass on the US moon flag (which I'm told has been bleached white by the sun).

/more likely the US moon stuff ends up in a private collection in Beijing
 
2013-07-15 03:47:37 PM

Thwack: Cleaned up a long time ago by these guys,
[www.crazyabouttv.com image 334x220]

/Most of you probably weren't even around in '79 when this show was on,


Actually kind of enjoyed the pilot movie as a kid.   Once they had to try and create reasons to use the thing they built in more than one episode it set the standard for jumping the shark (which yes, I know is a standard)
 
2013-07-15 03:48:07 PM
Why does this have a Florida tag? Other than the fact the OP happened to pick a Florida newspaper rather than the hundreds of others that had this story it has nothing to do with Florida. Its Texas's and Maryland's Representatives submitting the bill not Florida's.
 
2013-07-15 03:48:40 PM
If y'all want to protect the sites so bad, why don't you go back there and put up a placard or something?

Just because you left some crap somewhere does not entitle you to the site for ever. If anything you should be glad if someone wrecked it. As it stands, the site is only a reminder that decades ago using technology positively ancient the US was able to go to the moon multiple times but that today you can barely get to orbit.
 
2013-07-15 03:49:30 PM
We may not be able to keep you from messing with it on the moon, but sure as hell keep you from bringing it back to earth in once piece and prevent you from ever getting anything back up there again.
 
2013-07-15 03:50:17 PM
Oh right. "Hey that stuff we left lying about 40 years ago and haven`t even bothered visiting is really important to us please leave it alone because we... um... just leave it alone!"

Rest of world : "How about no? What ya gonna do, cry?"

Murca : "No we`ll... um... we`ll watch you and cry, yes. We will cry for our space program."

Best country in the world? HA! That prize goes to the first ones with a few country killing asteroids ready to tip into a collision course and a space mining operation. We`ve all played the games. Whoever builds their space weapon first wins.
 
2013-07-15 03:57:38 PM
The only impact this will have is that I can't use eBay (a US-based corporation) to auction off the relics after I collect them.
And all buyers will risk confiscation if they try to take the items back into the USA.
 
2013-07-15 04:00:40 PM
home.cogeco.ca
World Police isn't good enough.
Universe Police!
 
2013-07-15 04:00:40 PM

Because People in power are Stupid: When we go to the moon, we go there to plant flags and stuff. When the Chinese go to the moon, they go there to mine it.

Obviously our national values are at a disconnect with progress.


Uhhh... You realize China is on a mission to equal every symbolic achievement of the West? Sort of like how you did with the Soviets way back when?

And since you probably believe that all progress comes from space, you will now move to China, right?

dready zim: Oh right. "Hey that stuff we left lying about 40 years ago and haven`t even bothered visiting is really important to us please leave it alone because we... um... just leave it alone!"

Rest of world : "How about no? What ya gonna do, cry?"

Murca : "No we`ll... um... we`ll watch you and cry, yes. We will cry for our space program."

Best country in the world? HA! That prize goes to the first ones with a few country killing asteroids ready to tip into a collision course and a space mining operation. We`ve all played the games. Whoever builds their space weapon first wins.


The Moon is big and empty. If they were really interested in mining (they're not), they'd ignore those LEMs. Since this is all about symbols, it doesn't matter.

What are you going to do? Build bigger aqueducts to try and impress the ancient Romans?

But anyways, you seem like another one that should move to China, since obviously having a few people paint some rockets means everyone just lives in a techno utopia there, right?
 
2013-07-15 04:04:02 PM

jon787: [i.imgur.com image 658x370]

We're whaling on the moon
We carry a harpoon
But there ain't no whales
So we tell tall tales
And sing our whaling tune



We're done here
 
2013-07-15 04:09:54 PM

Uncle Tractor: The US might want to not make too much noise about this, lest some Chinese astronaut decides to wipe his ass on the US moon flag (which I'm told has been bleached white by the sun).


We surrender?
 
2013-07-15 04:13:32 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: you will now move to China, right?


是什么让你觉得在中国,我不活了
 
2013-07-15 04:20:16 PM

iheartscotch: One useless man is a disgrace;

Two become a law firm;

Three or more become a congress!


Sit down, John.
 
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