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2013-07-15 10:20:20 AM  
Buzzfeed has a gallery of 17 cats who look like Zimmerman. In animated GIFs.
 
2013-07-15 10:20:21 AM  
Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?
 
2013-07-15 10:24:28 AM  

bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?


Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.
 
2013-07-15 10:27:00 AM  

bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?


Bachelor's degree having, private investigator Amy that's who!

She also is also fond of chow chows. Dude, fond of chow chows. Chow chows.
 
2013-07-15 10:29:33 AM  

doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.


There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.
 
2013-07-15 10:31:55 AM  

doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.


doesn't go around stalking and shooting unarmed teenagers

Finished that for you

The might makes right gun crowd only cares that this didn't reflect badly on their precious guns. They'll never grasp that concealed carry made Zimmerman braver than he would be otherwise and undoubtedly made the situation worse
 
2013-07-15 10:32:58 AM  
Oh, I see we still get Zimmerman threads.  Drink?
 
2013-07-15 10:35:20 AM  

bdub77: There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.


Exactly.  I thought Murder 2 was not the right choice and too heavy-handed of a charge, but I was actually surprised that he didn't get convicted of Manslaughter. That said, I am not an expert in FL law, and it appears that, as convoluted as it is, this really did fall under how that "Stand Your Ground" law is written in Florida. 

Now might be a good time for Florida lawmakers to revisit that law and how/when it can be applied.  That, to me, would be the best thing that could come of this.  It appears to be a deeply flawed law that could use a good, close look, and I'm fairly certain, some serious changes.
 
2013-07-15 10:49:32 AM  

bdub77: There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.


well-put. this pretty much sums up my feelings too.
 
2013-07-15 10:49:37 AM  

nekom: Oh, I see we still get Zimmerman threads.  Drink?


At this point I'm past drinking bottles. I've moved on to drinking liquor stores.


doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.


Just because the law may have been followed doesn't mean the law doesn't suck.
 
2013-07-15 10:50:49 AM  

nekom: Oh, I see we still get Zimmerman threads.  Drink?


gee, and just 36 hours after a momentous and controversial verdict announcement! you'd think this ancient history would be long forgotten by now!
 
2013-07-15 11:10:35 AM  

FlashHarry: bdub77: There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.

well-put. this pretty much sums up my feelings too.


yup
 
2013-07-15 11:19:27 AM  
George Zimmerman: Not racists, but #1 with racists.
 
2013-07-15 11:23:24 AM  

serpent_sky: Now might be a good time for Florida lawmakers to revisit that law and how/when it can be applied.


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2013-07-15 11:46:07 AM  

bdub77: doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.

There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.


That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.
 
2013-07-15 11:52:19 AM  
vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.
 
2013-07-15 12:04:21 PM  
Wouldn't the world be nice if we all lived in a courtroom? Sadly that isn't the case and people will dislike someone for whatever reason they like.
 
2013-07-15 12:04:33 PM  
There are a huge number of people that feel Zimmerman was a goddamn idiot that contributed to the death of an unarmed teenager. However, that is not enough for a murder 2 charge.

There also seem to be a large number of people who feel he did nothing wrong whatsoever and Martin is to blame for the situation for being a thug, doing drugs, or whatever other reasoning needed.
 
2013-07-15 12:05:53 PM  

LegacyDL: Wouldn't the world be nice if we all lived in a courtroom? Sadly that isn't the case and people will dislike someone for whatever reason they like.


It makes a pretty good case for shielding the identity of the accused until they are convicted. It doesn't seem right someone should be found not guilty by their peers then  potentially deal with death threats for the rest of their life.
 
2013-07-15 12:06:06 PM  
keepcalmandtrayvon.com
 
2013-07-15 12:06:30 PM  
This topic has been farked to death so much it is jizzing blood.
 
2013-07-15 12:06:41 PM  

nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.


This. At the absolute best, Zimmerman was just a guy doing what he had to do to survive, and there's nothing heroic in that. He was no champion of justice, nor anything else of the sort. But that does not mean that what he did was a criminal act.
 
2013-07-15 12:07:48 PM  
Minority?
 
2013-07-15 12:08:09 PM  

vpb: bdub77: doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.

There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.

That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.


Is the prosecution allowed to lie?

They'd have to outright lie to make that claim given that, as you said, there's absolutely no indication that it wasn't Trayvon who started it (here, I don't acknowledge following someone as starting a fight. I know some people do. I don't).
 
2013-07-15 12:08:12 PM  

nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.


How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?
 
2013-07-15 12:08:30 PM  

Carth: LegacyDL: Wouldn't the world be nice if we all lived in a courtroom? Sadly that isn't the case and people will dislike someone for whatever reason they like.

It makes a pretty good case for shielding the identity of the accused until they are convicted. It doesn't seem right someone should be found not guilty by their peers then potentially deal with death threats for the rest of their life.


Would that have helped in this case, though? Part of the outrage came from the fact that Zimmerman was not charged at first; his name was out to the press before he was even accused.
 
2013-07-15 12:08:36 PM  
I consider myself a liberal, but the willful ignorance being embraced by so many liberals in regards to this case is really disappointing. People are angry and have attached themselves to a narrative that doesn't appear to be supportable, where a racist white man tracked down a kid just for being black and shot him. It helps people to release the anger they have, but it's ultimately at worst a lie and at best a story without evidence.
 
2013-07-15 12:09:03 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.

doesn't go around stalking and shooting unarmed teenagers

Finished that for you

The might makes right gun crowd only cares that this didn't reflect badly on their precious guns. They'll never grasp that concealed carry made Zimmerman braver than he would be otherwise and undoubtedly made the situation worse


 I am a gun owner, I carry concealed, -AND- I am one of the rare people that has actually had to use a firearm in a self-defense shooting and been cleared due to self-defense laws, and even I think this moron should not be allowed anywhere near firearms.

 Not all gun owners are like him, nor are they at all like the race war scumbags that came out of the woodwork to worship him. We do our best to run off those nuts when they appear at the clubs or the private ranges, and we do our best to exclude them as they are nothing but trouble (hence why the Aurora nutjob couldn't get to a range to shoot).
 Just because they are the morons that make news doesn't mean they represent us. We hate them probably more than you do.
 
2013-07-15 12:09:12 PM  
100 guilty men something something 1 innocent man something something.


classic case to test your principles.

bite the bullet and move on.
 
2013-07-15 12:09:21 PM  

Whiskey Pete: How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?


A man's freedom.
 
2013-07-15 12:09:33 PM  

Millennium: Carth: LegacyDL: Wouldn't the world be nice if we all lived in a courtroom? Sadly that isn't the case and people will dislike someone for whatever reason they like.

It makes a pretty good case for shielding the identity of the accused until they are convicted. It doesn't seem right someone should be found not guilty by their peers then potentially deal with death threats for the rest of their life.

Would that have helped in this case, though? Part of the outrage came from the fact that Zimmerman was not charged at first; his name was out to the press before he was even accused.


You're right. It would be impossible to do in this day in age with twitter and facebook anyway.
 
2013-07-15 12:09:55 PM  

Whiskey Pete: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?


You mean an overzealous vigilante goes and acts like an overzealous vigilante?

What are the farking odds....
 
2013-07-15 12:09:57 PM  

serpent_sky: That said, I am not an expert in FL law, and it appears that, as convoluted as it is, this really did fall under how that "Stand Your Ground" law is written in Florida.


Apparently, you either didn't follow the trial, or you only followed the Twitter/Facebook/nightly news recaps regarding the case.  This was not a SYG case.

nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.


And what little evidence we do have suggests Martin as the aggressor.  Aside from the gunshot wound to his chest, his only other injuries were on his knuckles.  Meanwhile, an eyewitness said that someone matching Martin's description was on top of Zimmerman, and that Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations on the back of his head.

What's disturbing to me is that the justice system is racist, primarily when it comes to sentencing and our drug laws.  The reaction to this whole case has been barking up the wrong tree, and the Justice Department, headed by a lifelong drug warrior and Wall Street stooge, is going to suddenly become the hero in the eyes of a misguided, poorly-informed angry mob demanding "Justice 4 Trayvon."
 
2013-07-15 12:10:00 PM  

Giltric: This topic has been farked to death so much it is jizzing blood.


What a lovely image
 
2013-07-15 12:10:00 PM  

bdub77: doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.

There's a difference between respecting the outcome of the trial and thinking what Zimmerman did was a farking travesty. I don't support Zimmerman. I think what he did was destructive and callous and terrible. I do think the jury trial decision was the correct one given the evidence, although I might have considered him guilty of manslaughter.


So much this.  I think the verdict was the correct one for the case.  That being said I don't support Zimmerman.  Supporting Zimmerman means that you support racial profiling and following people based on what they where and the fact you feel that don't belong with you.  Supporting Zimmerman means not listening to those with training and experience and doing what you feel is right.  Supporting Zimmerman means getting in a fight with a teenage.  Supporting Zimmerman means feeling big and brave because you have to carry a weapon, but knowing you aren't big and brave because you feel the need to carry a gun.  Supporting Zimmerman means the second you start to lose a fight you fear for your life and have to resort to killing someone.  Supporting Zimmerman means saying you are right and talking to a friendly interviewer and taking peoples money for your defense but not be willing to take the stand and answer questions on your actions that night.

Supporting Zimmerman is not something I would want to be. However, saying that Zimmerman was not proven guilty means you understand the reasonable doubt.
 
2013-07-15 12:10:13 PM  

Whiskey Pete: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?


All of your money.  And you'll lose.  Then I'll buy a pistol with your money.
 
2013-07-15 12:10:40 PM  

Millennium: Part of the outrage came from the fact that Zimmerman was not charged at first; his name was out to the press before he was even accused.


He should never have been charged in the first place.  Purely political, that.
 
2013-07-15 12:11:16 PM  
This is another sad situation due to farked up gun laws. These gun laws were cynically crafted to drive a wedge between poor white folks and poor people of color. Vigilantism has no place in civilized society.
 
2013-07-15 12:11:51 PM  

Whiskey Pete: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?


Then he's an idiot. If someone brandishes a gun, you don't attack them with your fists. There was nothing in Zimmerman's past that supports the idea that he would go out and just shoot a person cold-blooded. And if he was indeed that cold-blooded, why didn't he shoot him before he got his nose broken and his head pounded into the pavement?
 
2013-07-15 12:11:59 PM  

Millennium: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

This. At the absolute best, Zimmerman was just a guy doing what he had to do to survive, and there's nothing heroic in that. He was no champion of justice, nor anything else of the sort. But that does not mean that what he did was a criminal act.


yes, it was criminal. just because there was not enough evidence to send him away for his criminal act doesn't mean he didn't commit one.
 
2013-07-15 12:12:02 PM  

PDid: This is another sad situation due to farked up gun laws. These gun laws were cynically crafted to drive a wedge between poor white folks and poor people of color. Vigilantism has no place in civilized society.


notsureifserious but if so what gun law would you like to see changed?
 
2013-07-15 12:13:07 PM  

Molavian: Whiskey Pete: How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?

A man's freedom.


www.sooverthis.com
 
2013-07-15 12:13:26 PM  

Whiskey Pete: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

How much do you want to bet that fat ass brandished his gun and Trayvon was in fear for his life?


The first thing i do when someone pulls a gun on me is punch them in the nose.
 
2013-07-15 12:13:56 PM  

Peter von Nostrand: doglover: bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?

Anyone who respects the role law plays in a society.

doesn't go around stalking and shooting unarmed teenagers

Finished that for you

The might makes right gun crowd only cares that this didn't reflect badly on their precious guns. They'll never grasp that concealed carry made Zimmerman braver than he would be otherwise and undoubtedly made the situation worse


Fwiw.. youre right. As a gun owner im pretty horrified by GZ's (apparently) casual attitude towards walking around with a piece. Ive been saying for ages that if you find yourself in places with a gun you wouldnt go without a gun.... youre doing it wrong (with a very few exceptions). Personally i think GZ getting off is a net loss for responsible gun owners. And lets face it- if he had shot a white kid we would have heard a whole helluva lot more from the NRA about the role of ccw in this.
 
2013-07-15 12:14:07 PM  

CliChe Guevara: Millennium: nekom: vpb:
That's the way I see it.  Zimmerman might have started the fight but the prosecution couldn't prove it.  I don't support him, but I support the concept of being innocent unless proven guilty.

If I had to bet even money, I'd say Martin started the physical altercation.  We'll never know for sure, but I'm in the same boat.  Zimmerman is no hero, he just wasn't proven guilty of any crime beyond a reasonable doubt.  Basically, this is an acquittal for lack of evidence, which is and should be the default when the evidence is insufficient.

This. At the absolute best, Zimmerman was just a guy doing what he had to do to survive, and there's nothing heroic in that. He was no champion of justice, nor anything else of the sort. But that does not mean that what he did was a criminal act.

yes, it was criminal. just because there was not enough evidence to send him away for his criminal act doesn't mean he didn't commit one.


And if there was video of the whole thing going down just as Zimmerman said?

Would it still be criminal?
 
2013-07-15 12:14:26 PM  
Look at the comments...

Andrea Layher: "This article is wrong about the events of the evening. It was proven by evidence of testimony that Trayvon confronted and attacked George Zimmerman. But it doesn't matter because people will just continue taking testimony out of context and believing what they want instead of cold hard facts. "

Patrick Patounovitch"ANDREA LAYHER = KKK AFFILIATED "

Perfect example of what it's like trying to discuss this case with the majority of people
 
2013-07-15 12:14:30 PM  

CliChe Guevara: yes, it was criminal. just because there was not enough evidence to send him away for his criminal act doesn't mean he didn't commit one.


So he's not presumed innocent until proven guilty?
 
2013-07-15 12:14:37 PM  

bdub77: Let's see, George Zimmerman, his brother....who else?


Anyone who thinks it's ok to shoot some thug who is on top of you, pounding your skull into the pavement.
 
2013-07-15 12:14:41 PM  
Fark It:
And what little evidence we do have suggests Martin as the aggressor.  Aside from the gunshot wound to his chest, his only other injuries were on his knuckles.  Meanwhile, an eyewitness said that someone matching Martin's description was on top of Zimmerman, and that Zimmerman had a broken nose and lacerations on the back of his head.

All that proves is that Martin is a better fighter than Zimmerman.  I don't know who started the fight but to say that "Well, Martin was on top so he had to start the fight" is crazy.  That is as widely specilative as "Zimmerman showed his gun."  There are only two people who know what really happened.
 
2013-07-15 12:14:56 PM  

RussianPooper: I consider myself a liberal, but the willful ignorance being embraced by so many liberals in regards to this case is really disappointing. People are angry and have attached themselves to a narrative that doesn't appear to be supportable, where a racist white man tracked down a kid just for being black and shot him. It helps people to release the anger they have, but it's ultimately at worst a lie and at best a story without evidence.


People are emotional, the law is not.

Right there is where the fundamental problem lies.
 
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