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2013-07-15 10:53:44 AM

I_C_Weener: Phil McKraken: At what point did Martin waive his right to self defense? When he allegedly started the fight with Zimmerman? Was he not correct in fearing for his life?

So, you agree that neither one should have been charged under Florida law and neither one should have faced potential financial ruin and lost future for themselves and their family due to this case?


I'm of the opinion that Zimmerman was the aggressor and Trayvon Martin very likely believed he was defending his own life. Zimmerman had the gun and took positive, direct steps that led to Martin's death.

If Martin had a gun, he could have shot Zimmerman instead of allegedly starting a fist fight. Had he done so, he could justify the killing the same way Zimmerman did.

The law is retarded.
 
2013-07-15 10:53:57 AM

Headso: Popcorn Johnny: Sure there is, Zim's phone call to report Trayvon's suspicious behavior.

But he's always calling the cops, everything was suspicious.


A neighborhood watch volunteer calling the police?  That's just plain ridiculous!
 
2013-07-15 10:54:10 AM

urbangirl: You're absolutely right.  I mean it's not as if Zimmerman ignored the warnings of actual real live police officers and instead got out of his car and created a dangerous situation where one didn't actually exist.  And it's not as if he did this before Martin ever had the opportunity to act violently.

It's not as if that's what happened.


Ignorantly sarcastic is my favorite kind of sarcastic.
 
2013-07-15 10:54:21 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I had hoped that the news of Zimmerman's acquittal would have been the last thread we'd see on this, but some people just can't get the racism out of their heads and onto the internet fast enough.

Can't you racists just let it go? The kid's dead. You lost. It's over. Go home.


Sneaky way of trying to say only the black people involved in this are racist.  Says a lot about you.
 
2013-07-15 10:54:48 AM

Popcorn Johnny: Dimensio: I am aware of no evidence suggesting that Mr. Martin was "casing houses" on the night of his death.

Sure there is, Zim's phone call to report Trayvon's suspicious behavior. Or are you going with the ridiculous talking point that Zim called the police soley because he saw a black guy in hie neighborhood?


Yes. Some of us actually work with black urban youth, and the non-verbal responses I see in grown adults, every day, when a young black man walks up to them and begins a conversation is repulsive. People grab their purses or pat their pockets to check for their wallets, they step back, they close off their body language, they start to look around for some reason to leave the conversation. It's amazing.

Very few people in this country and 'actively' racist, but we live our lives with stereotypes so deeply ingrained in our subconscious, it's hard to not respond to them. Zimmerman responded to his.
 
2013-07-15 10:55:15 AM

DROxINxTHExWIND: GORDON: Black folks know whats up... Trayvon was asking for it when he attacked.  Not a lot to be outraged about "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong."

LOL. The worst part about the internet is it gives weak people a platform to say things that they could not and would not anywhere else. Black people mut not be too bad to you since you obviously watched the Chapelle Show. I guess he's one of he good ones?


And every other non violent and intelligent one who's not spewing some kind of reverse racism.  See, if we judge an individual based on their actions, regardless of their skin color of them or the victims, it's not racism.  That's what you seem to have a problem with.

Treyvon was committing assault and battery.  He got shot because of it.  End of story.  Well, until the lawyers and media wanted to glorify the non-story as some race crusade and gain uninformed and prejudicial people like you to rally behind them with screams about racism that's non-existent.
 
2013-07-15 10:55:21 AM

Cletus C.: Carth: Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight

Pretty much. It is terrible that physically weaker people can use a gun when being over powered by an attacker. They should just take their beating then hit the gym.

Or accept they are a pussy and not confront strangers because they think they may be up to no good.


And if, as they claim, they were jumped and attacked? Then it is their fault for calling to report suspicious behavior right? As long as you don't violate laws you shouldn't have to deal with getting beaten up.

If a women is attacked and overpowered she can still use a gun right? It is only men who are pussies for being unable to fight?
 
2013-07-15 10:55:36 AM

I_C_Weener: steerforth: You Zimmerfans are all appalling human beings.

I've put him on my Fantasy Gunfire team. I"m going to start him this weekend.

Zimmerfans?


Deleted? Attempted to start a flame war?
 
2013-07-15 10:55:51 AM

Gunny Highway: What are the protesters protesting?  Or are they just showing their dissatisfaction with the result of the trial?


The protesters are upset that their own preconceived notions about what occurred on the night of Mr. Martin's death are not shared a jury who were presented with evidence, who heard testimony from witnesses and who heard arguments from a prosecuting attorney attempting to prove a criminal act.
 
2013-07-15 10:55:53 AM
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2013-07-15 10:56:17 AM
If some idiot were following me through my neighborhood and started harassing me, I would have punched him. We all know that's what happened here, it just can't be proven. Zimmerman picked a fight, got punched, and he killed the kid.
 
2013-07-15 10:56:24 AM

Latinwolf: AverageAmericanGuy: I had hoped that the news of Zimmerman's acquittal would have been the last thread we'd see on this, but some people just can't get the racism out of their heads and onto the internet fast enough.

Can't you racists just let it go? The kid's dead. You lost. It's over. Go home.

Sneaky way of trying to say only the black people involved in this are racist.  Says a lot about you.


Yes. It says that he is indeed an Average American.
 
2013-07-15 10:56:25 AM
Reading this thread, its apparent that the education gap in America is definitely not all tied to race. There are some pretty ignorant folks.
 
2013-07-15 10:56:45 AM

Phil McKraken: I'm of the opinion that Zimmerman was the aggressor and Trayvon Martin very likely believed he was defending his own life. Zimmerman had the gun and took positive, direct steps that led to Martin's death.


Do you have any evidence to back up your opinion?  

If Martin had a gun, he could have shot Zimmerman instead of allegedly starting a fist fight. Had he done so, he could justify the killing the same way Zimmerman did.

Not really, not unless Zimmerman started hitting him.  Just being followed isn't reasonable grounds for being put in fear of your life.

The law is retarded.

Actually it's eminently sensible.
 
2013-07-15 10:57:13 AM
Viva La George,

עבודה נהדרת ג'ורג'
 
2013-07-15 10:57:14 AM

Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin


Well, he is legally innocent. That's one way...
 
2013-07-15 10:57:56 AM

Carth: Cletus C.: Carth: Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight

Pretty much. It is terrible that physically weaker people can use a gun when being over powered by an attacker. They should just take their beating then hit the gym.

Or accept they are a pussy and not confront strangers because they think they may be up to no good.

And if, as they claim, they were jumped and attacked? Then it is their fault for calling to report suspicious behavior right? As long as you don't violate laws you shouldn't have to deal with getting beaten up.

If a women is attacked and overpowered she can still use a gun right? It is only men who are pussies for being unable to fight?


Neighborhood creep following a teen around in the dark with a loaded gun. Creep has no fighting skills but puts himself in a situation where there's probably going to be a fight. What could go wrong?

Not a lot of women, or men, would do the stupid shiat Zimmerman did that night. Thankfully.
 
2013-07-15 10:58:02 AM
Cletus C.

Or accept they are a pussy and not confront strangers...

Not confronting strangers is easy. Avoiding strangers confronting you is a bit more difficult, it would seem. He didn't try terribly hard at it, but still.

urbangirl

I mean it's not as if Zimmerman ignored the warnings of actual real live police officers and instead got out of his car and created a dangerous situation where one didn't actually exist. And it's not as if he did this before Martin ever had the opportunity to act violently.

It's not as if that's what happened.


What's really funny is that this isn't what happened.
 
2013-07-15 10:58:05 AM
Called it.  I knew no one would riot.  All Americans have become much too complacent for that (not to mention the inherent racism implied in AA rioting).  We just talk shiat on social media.  If we were ever to face another civil war, I would assume it would start with a facebook page that said "revolution, like if you're for it, leave a comment if you disagree."
 
2013-07-15 10:58:22 AM
Here's another sound prediction.

"With today's social media I fully expect organized race rioting to begin in every major city to dwarf the Rodney King and the Martin Luther King riots of past decades," wrote

WTF is this shiat?
 
2013-07-15 10:58:28 AM

Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin


Seriously?  After this many threads and the trial being broadcast live, you STILL can't get the facts of the event straight?
 
2013-07-15 10:58:48 AM

dittybopper: Actually, given the identical circumstances, Zimmerman would have likely been acquitted in nearly every other state. Even in states where you have a duty to retreat, it's only required if you can do it in complete safety. When George Zimmerman used deadly force (and it appears to be the *ONLY* time he used any significant force at all), he couldn't escape. He was pinned to the ground by Trayvon Martin.


I'm not disagreeing. My point is that I have a fundamental problem with any law that says you can instigate a fight and then kill the other person as long as you use what effectively comes down to the playground taunt of "I'm not touching you! I'm not touching you!"

There has to be some reasonable balance. Zimmerman is clearly a complete and racist prick, but that's not illegal even though it seems to be what a lot of people are basing their belief about his guilt or innocence on.

It IS illegal to stalk and harass a person though, and there should be consequences for that weighed against Martin's (possible) overreaction.

Duty to retreat laws are retarded, but right to kill is just as bad. When two people engage in irresponsible or destructive actions that lead to the death of one of them, they should both be held accountable for their roles, one person shouldn't get to claim immunity for his part just because he shot last.

dittybopper: And the original police investigation was shown to have been competent, as the verdict in the trial indicates: He acted in self-defense according to a jury of his peers.


No, that's not true at all and flies directly in the face of all known applications of human logic. I could take a wild guess at a person's guilt or innocence with no evidence at all or even knowing what they are accused of. If I'm correct after the trial, that doesn't mean my method was sound.

Dimensio: [pointless and childish strawman redacted]


Did you actually have some point you wanted to make or are you just being ignorant to try and pick a fight?
 
2013-07-15 10:59:00 AM

The Muthaship: urbangirl: You're absolutely right.  I mean it's not as if Zimmerman ignored the warnings of actual real live police officers and instead got out of his car and created a dangerous situation where one didn't actually exist.  And it's not as if he did this before Martin ever had the opportunity to act violently.

It's not as if that's what happened.

Ignorantly sarcastic is my favorite kind of sarcastic.


Please, please enlighten me.  What precise part of my comment is factually incorrect?
 
2013-07-15 10:59:03 AM

Rapmaster2000: Here's another sound prediction.

"With today's social media I fully expect organized race rioting to begin in every major city to dwarf the Rodney King and the Martin Luther King riots of past decades," wrote

WTF is this shiat?


Really should have previewed that:

"With today's social media I fully expect organized race rioting to begin in every major city to dwarf the Rodney King and the Martin Luther King riots of past decades," wrote retired cop/pundit Paul Huebl after the Rachel Jeantel testimony sparked a wave of distressed tweets from black users. "If you live in a large city be prepared to evacuate or put up a fight to win. You will need firearms, fire suppression equipment along with lots of food and water.  Police resources will be slow and outgunned everywhere. America is about to see some combat related population control like we've not seen since the Civil War. Martial Law can't be far behind complete with major efforts at gun grabbing."
 
2013-07-15 10:59:28 AM

I_C_Weener: What if Trayvon were white?
What if Zimmerman were a black Hispanic?


Good point. Obviously in that alternate universe Zimmerman would have been arrested and brought to trial and a black person would automatically be president.

Oh, wait...
 
2013-07-15 10:59:33 AM

Albert911emt: If some idiot were following me through my neighborhood and started harassing me, I would have punched him.


And you'd have been in the wrong, both legally and morally.
 
2013-07-15 10:59:34 AM

Magnus: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Seriously?  After this many threads and the trial being broadcast live, you STILL can't get the facts of the event straight?


I think it is that some people just don't want to get the facts straight.
 
2013-07-15 10:59:57 AM

dittybopper: skozlaw: This is a simple case of a bunch of suburban Rambo wannabes throwing a brainless law on the books with no real regard for the potential consequences.

Actually, given the identical circumstances, Zimmerman would have likely been acquitted in nearly every other state.  Even in states where you have a duty to retreat, it's only required if you can do it in complete safety.  When George Zimmerman used deadly force (and it appears to be the *ONLY* time he used any significant force at all), he couldn't escape.  He was pinned to the ground by Trayvon Martin.


While you may claim that, and while physical evidence might seem to corroborate such a claim, and while a witness to the incident may have issued testimony consistent with the claim, the fevered imaginations of amateur analysts who are certain that Mr. Zimmerman exited his truck with the intention of hunting down and killing a black individual prior to confronting Mr. Martin, insulting Mr. Martin's mother and demanding that Mr. Martin call himself "Toby" before shooting Mr. Martin in the chest, then striking himself in the face several times before slamming his own head against the sidewalk should be be given equal consideration, for sake of fairness.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:08 AM
I'm simply stunned, yes, stunned at the inability of the J4T's to accept the fact that George Zimmerman was justified in killing T.
Perhaps learning to accept the fact that you can be wrong sometimes is a sign of personal growth, and is an indication of a healthy personality.
Questioning the jury decision and postulating any number of bizzaro world hypothetical scenarios only makes you look pitiful and weak.
Stop it, or was pitiful and weak the effect you were hoping for?
I don't give a rotund rodent's rosy red rectum, trial over, win for ZAC.
I had pancakes this morning, but did put blackstrap molasses on it in honor of Traygone.
Hey, you can say what you want, but it was one hell of a digging job to get enough mole asses to cover my pancakes.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:19 AM
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2013-07-15 11:00:32 AM

Facetious_Speciest: DROxINxTHExWIND

The worst part about the internet is it gives weak people a platform to say things that they could not and would not anywhere else.

Like all the "Imma gon riot" people. They didn't; they won't. Just ITGs talking shiat behind a keyboard/phone in 140 characters of impotent rage.


Last week those tweets were being posted as evidence of the coming race war and the ignorance of black poeple. Today, they were all just ITGs, huh? Smh.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:37 AM

urbangirl: What precise part of my comment is factually incorrect?


All of it.

But, you aren't alone.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:38 AM
dittybopper:
If Martin had a gun, he could have shot Zimmerman instead of allegedly starting a fist fight. Had he done so, he could justify the killing the same way Zimmerman did.

Not really, not unless Zimmerman started hitting him.  Just being followed isn't reasonable grounds for being put in fear of your life.


It's as easy as shooting Zimmerman and then claiming self defense - even if it's a lie. No one disputes that Zimmerman was following Martin, a provocative act that Zimmerman should have recognized as such and let the police do their jobs.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:55 AM
It just shows AGAIN how racist everyone is!
 
2013-07-15 11:01:01 AM

HotWingConspiracy: Millennium: Too many levels of indirection. Who chose to fight? That's the key question -the only thing that truly matters- and we have no way to answer it.

That's not even the question. You can start a fight, then simply murder the other person if you're "afraid".

Basically if you get in to a fight in Florida, shoot first.


Instigating a physical altercation eliminates justification for use of deadly force during the altercation.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:05 AM

dittybopper: Headso: Popcorn Johnny: Sure there is, Zim's phone call to report Trayvon's suspicious behavior.

But he's always calling the cops, everything was suspicious.

A neighborhood watch volunteer calling the police?  That's just plain ridiculous!


A lot of the calls are pretty specious on the reasoning... reads like a call log from an elderly woman.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:15 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: I think it is that some people just don't want to get the facts straight.


Public discourse about events such as these has little to do with facts.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:31 AM

Cletus C.: Carth: Cletus C.: Carth: Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight

Pretty much. It is terrible that physically weaker people can use a gun when being over powered by an attacker. They should just take their beating then hit the gym.

Or accept they are a pussy and not confront strangers because they think they may be up to no good.

And if, as they claim, they were jumped and attacked? Then it is their fault for calling to report suspicious behavior right? As long as you don't violate laws you shouldn't have to deal with getting beaten up.

If a women is attacked and overpowered she can still use a gun right? It is only men who are pussies for being unable to fight?

Neighborhood creep following a teen around in the dark with a loaded gun. Creep has no fighting skills but puts himself in a situation where there's probably going to be a fight. What could go wrong?

Not a lot of women, or men, would do the stupid shiat Zimmerman did that night. Thankfully.


You mean the guy who did volunteer work in the community and spent his time tutoring low income children? That creep?
Following a teen after being asked by the 911 dispatcher "which way is he running" then stopping when they told him they didn't need him to actually follow him?

You're right about one thing most people wouldn't bother calling 911 if they  they saw someone suspicious. They'd rather not get involved.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:32 AM
Handy tip: Don't suckerpunch a rambo wanna-be with a gun in a gated community. You'll be shot.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:39 AM
What's amazing about this, and I wonder why it didn't come out at trial, but Trayvon Martin had pictures of himself in a safe deposit box, and on the back was written "if I turn up dead, Zimmerman started it".
 
2013-07-15 11:01:50 AM

Latinwolf: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Funny how people who normally say "innocent until proven guilty" are quick to keep labeling Trayvon Martin as a criminal who deserved to die when there's never been any proof he was up to no good that night.


You are correct, as is evident by the lack of any legal prohibition against punching individuals in the face.
 
2013-07-15 11:01:52 AM

99sportster: Some Bass Playing Guy: 99sportster: ikanreed: The Muthaship: Magorn: But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Well, one of us is delusional....

There's a difference between not-guilty and innocent.

Really?  "Innocent until proven guilty".  He was not proven guilty, therefore, he IS innocent.

Come back when you understand the difference between a not guilty verdict and being innocent.

OK, so it's actually "Not guilty until proven guilty". I'm glad you cleared that up.  People have been getting it wrong for YEARS.

By the way, sport, there's no such thing as a verdict of "Innocent".  However, if you are "Innocent until proven guilty" and you are not proven guilty (ergo, you never GET TO the "until proven guilty" part), you're still at "innocent".

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Being found not guilty of a crime, is not the same as being innocent. Never has been, despite the innocent until proven guilty phrase. It's an immutable fact that Zimmerman killed Martin. The circumstances were judged to be not a criminal offense, but he's not innocent of killing Martin.

Lots of people who actually have committed crimes have been acquitted because the prosecution couldn't make it case. That doesn't mean they didn't do what they were accused of. All that means is that there wasn't enough to make a criminal charge stick. Likewise, people who are found guilty of crimes, may have not actually done the things they got charged for. That means they are innocent.

So like I said, get back to us when you actually understand that being found not guilty of a crime doesn't mean someone is innocent.
 
2013-07-15 11:02:47 AM

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Millennium: Too many levels of indirection. Who chose to fight? That's the key question -the only thing that truly matters- and we have no way to answer it.

That's not even the question. You can start a fight, then simply murder the other person if you're "afraid".

Basically if you get in to a fight in Florida, shoot first.

Instigating a physical altercation eliminates justification for use of deadly force during the altercation.


The survivor is always going to lie to avoid penalty.
 
2013-07-15 11:03:07 AM

AverageAmericanGuy: I had hoped that the news of Zimmerman's acquittal would have been the last thread we'd see on this, but some people just can't get the racism out of their heads and onto the internet fast enough.

Can't you racists just let it go? The kid's dead. You lost. It's over. Go home.


AAG is just trying to keep the flames of non-violent behavior at bay. We should heed the advice.
 
2013-07-15 11:03:19 AM
DROxINxTHExWIND

Last week those tweets were being posted as evidence of the coming race war and the ignorance of black poeple. Today, they were all just ITGs, huh? Smh.

Please stop conflating everyone with a similar skin tone. I never did the things you accuse me of. Your racism is lazy.
 
2013-07-15 11:03:21 AM

Dimensio: HotWingConspiracy: Millennium: Too many levels of indirection. Who chose to fight? That's the key question -the only thing that truly matters- and we have no way to answer it.

That's not even the question. You can start a fight, then simply murder the other person if you're "afraid".

Basically if you get in to a fight in Florida, shoot first.

Instigating a physical altercation eliminates justification for use of deadly force during the altercation.


Not in Florida.
 
2013-07-15 11:04:08 AM

Albert911emt: If some idiot were following me through my neighborhood and started harassing me, I would have punched him. We all know that's what happened here, it just can't be proven. Zimmerman picked a fight, got punched, and he killed the kid.


The best course of action is to get away from the person following you, while calling 911 to report it.
 
2013-07-15 11:04:22 AM

Magorn: What we do know is tht at best Zimmerman was obscenely reckless


He was only obscenely reckless if you believe that following a black man at night is obscenely reckless.

Do you?
 
2013-07-15 11:04:33 AM

joness0154: AngryDragon: Meanwhile in Chicago...

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That's the thing that really drives me crazy.  We have children and teenagers (mostly black) getting shot and dying on the streets of Chicago on a nightly basis, yet one unfortunate event in Florida gets everyone's panties in a bunch?

What gives?


The issue wasn't the murder as much as it was the inadequate investigation and the lack of charges brought. We know who killed Martin and nothing much was done.
 
2013-07-15 11:04:39 AM
I've been avoiding these threads on purpose, and now that it's over my general feeling is:

www.poojadang.com

The laws were bad, the lawyers were bad, both people involved were not good people. The evidence was not enough to prove anything beyond a reasonable doubt.

Do I believe Zimmerman should have gotten some jail time for stalking and confronting someone? Yup.
Would I have felt the same way if Martin had "stood his ground" against Zimmerman and shot him instead... Maybe, but it didn't happen that way.
Would both have been legal under Florida law? Quite likely.

It's a new era of gun law, and there's going to be discourse and debate over the where the line should be drawn. I'm not blowing my wad at the first battle, it'll be a long war.

But that race stuff. If one of them had been white, you bet it would have been a different case, with different outcomes, and a riot of some kind more likely. That's an elephant that sat right in the middle of the courtroom. That's a battle that's ramping up right now, and we're going to hear a lot more about it over the next few years.
 
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