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2013-07-15 10:41:07 AM
I heard zimmerman wasn't even into guns until one day he saw pictures of some guy holding smith and wesson
 
2013-07-15 10:41:12 AM

Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin


Funny how people who normally say "innocent until proven guilty" are quick to keep labeling Trayvon Martin as a criminal who deserved to die when there's never been any proof he was up to no good that night.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:24 AM

Rapmaster2000: JusticeandIndependence: neritz: Aarontology: I'll bet Fox News is devastated they didn't get the race riots they wanted.

Well, Drudge is pretending they're happening.

Holy cow they are.  That's really sad.  My brother in law shouted out "go to Drudge, they get it right" when we were first hearing about the plane crash in S.F.   I just ignored him.  I tend to ignore him a lot lately.

Why would Drudge be better than any other source regarding a plane crash?  They have no reporters, no connections, and no expertise in aviation.  I can see going there for THE TRUTH about the libbo libtard MSM mainstream media, but why for something not related to confirmation bias?

Did they report that Obama's drones shot it down?


Like I said, I ignored that statement.  We were traveling in a car at the time and I got out my phone when I heard about it.  He was in the back seat.

  He is a Rush L. fanatic who talks openly about how Fox News is better than every news channel.  My wife is as liberal as they come and they have interesting "discussions" around family gatherings.   I just watch and giggle like a schoolgirl.  Surprisingly his wife is not a Fox News watcher or voter.  It's a weird family dynamic.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:57 AM

PanicMan: R.A.Danny: So the media is surprised that brown people didn't act like savages?

Pretty much, yeah.  It's almost as if the media is part of the problem here.


No no no no no... The media always knows what is best for us and what we should think about everything.
 
2013-07-15 10:42:04 AM

MJMaloney187: Black people were set to riot, but Painlessrisen gave 'em what for.

It doesn't matter anyway ... here's a fun fact: Soopermexican reports 11,106 black people have been murdered by other black people since Martin's death.


And in those murders, police aggressively pursued the murderer and ARRESTED HIM. The head prosecutor CHARGED THEM and took tme to built a solid case and if they were black, more than likely the jury found them guilty. Normally a fight between two people that ends in the death of one of them is an open and shut case of two savages fighting for "street cred" but when wanna be cops shoot someone after getting their ass beat, its time to start examining the case closer to find out who threw the first punch.
 
2013-07-15 10:42:22 AM

dittybopper: I_C_Weener: Diogenes: Does anyone know if this went through a Grand Jury first?

It did not.

Which speaks volumes.  The grand jury process is *HEAVILY* biased towards the prosecution, and yet the process was sidestepped even though there was a sitting grand jury that could have heard the case.

The case against Zimmerman was so weak that Angela Corey didn't want to risk a no-true-bill result.


I watch a lot of Law & Order, so I'm practically a lawyer, but I have to ask:  if you can side-step a grand jury, then why bother with them as part of our legal process at all?  I thought an indictment from the grand jury was kind of a big deal?
 
2013-07-15 10:42:26 AM

I_C_Weener: Magorn: soupafi: I_C_Weener: What if Trayvon were white?
What if Zimmerman were a black Hispanic?

Zimmerman would face captial murder charges

In FL,  this black woman got twenty years for shooting a <i> Ceiling</i> WHILE she was being attacked by her husband

I don't know a lot about that case, but I thought I read that she left the house, got her gun, then came back inside?  Also, the sentencing guidelines are outrageous everywhere.  She got the minimum sentence for the crime she was found guilty of.

And here is Zimmerman again, showing his white Hispanic side and his black Hispanic side.

[www.hispanicfanatic.com image 228x225]


Frankly it doesn't even matter if she got the gun and came back AS LONG AS she had a right to be wherever she was. She didn't have a right to be in the home. I agree with you that 20 years is effing ridiculous, but there is a reason why the jury took 12 minutes to convict her and the judge rejected her SYG claim.
 
2013-07-15 10:42:45 AM

Latinwolf: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Funny how people who normally say "innocent until proven guilty" are quick to keep labeling Trayvon Martin as a criminal who deserved to die when there's never been any proof he was up to no good that night.


Well that's certainly not because he's a young black male in a society which favors white people.
 
2013-07-15 10:43:18 AM

LandOfChocolate: One thing that bugged me throughout the trial

Why are there no recent pictures of Trayvon?

The media always seemed to use the picture of him as a 12 year old but he was 17 at the time of the shooting.  Did they not take any photographs of him for 5 years?


Same reason there's hardly any pictures of Adam Lanza ... neither really existed to begin with. It's like the MSM loves pulling Maupassant's THE NECKLACE ending ... "Sorry you got all worked up, but the story we gave you was a fake."

/derp ... (might as well get out in front of it)
 
2013-07-15 10:43:28 AM

99sportster: ikanreed: The Muthaship: Magorn: But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Well, one of us is delusional....

There's a difference between not-guilty and innocent.

Really?  "Innocent until proven guilty".  He was not proven guilty, therefore, he IS innocent.


Come back when you understand the difference between a not guilty verdict and being innocent.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:00 AM

skozlaw: Philip J. Fry: Oddly I don't see a lot of stories out of Chicago where the killer said "It was self defense!" and the police go "Self defense you say? Guess there's nothing more to do. Cut'im loose Joe."

And this is the other thing that everybody seems to have forgotten.

People were so pissed off initially because the cops completely bungled the investigation and let Zimmerman go without any serious or competent investigation. Initially everybody wanted him to have his day in court not just be turned loose because he said "b-b-b-but self defense!"

And that's happened now.


And the original police investigation was shown to have been competent, as the verdict in the trial indicates:  He acted in self-defense according to a jury of his peers.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:05 AM

LarryDan43: God Is My Co-Pirate: dittybopper: I'm very happy that my worst fears about the potential for violence have so far proven to be wrong.

Despite the media's best efforts.

They prayed as hard as they could for the riots to happen.


Funny that's the impression I got from most of the Fark Zimmerman supporters.  I suspect so they could justify their "all black people are evil" mentality.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:16 AM

r1niceboy: It all boiled down to intent, and whether Zimmerman acted appropriately before the confrontation. He didn't,


How did he not act appropriately before the confrontation?
He did the same thing he did all the other times he called 911.  He observed, reported and kept track of where the person was so when the police showed up he could tell them where the person was.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:31 AM

Otto_E_Rodika: Wait, so in a universe where Martin is "white" (Jewish/Hispanic) and Zimmerman is black, Zimmerman would already be in jail?  This would mean that there is a black man with a job that is living with his wife, is volunteering in his community, is willing to call the police, legally acquired a handgun and shops at Target.  Yep.  That's crazy talk.


Here's the thing. If you all want to get butthurt over blacks not being treated fairly by the legal system, why not latch on to an actual case of this happening vs. trying to offer hypothetical situations on a case that is clearly self-defense. GZ didn't walk up to the guy and shoot him for walking. He confronted someone he thought was suspicious, got his ass beat, and saved himself from major injury or death.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:47 AM

RidersOfLohan: I heard zimmerman wasn't even into guns until one day he saw pictures of some guy holding smith and wesson


George Zimmerman was the man behind New Coke.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:54 AM
"The fact that there has been no sabotage at all is an ominous sign."
 
2013-07-15 10:44:55 AM

urbangirl: FTFY


Conveniently ignoring the truth of the situation is not fixing anything.

Violence perpetrated by a No Limit Youth is what led to his demise.  A violent path that he was on that even his friends warned him away from(the texts that were not admitted to the court talking about fighting).  Even Rachel told him to run, and she's barely self aware.
 
2013-07-15 10:45:11 AM
At what point did Martin waive his right to self defense? When he allegedly started the fight with Zimmerman? Was he not correct in fearing for his life?
 
2013-07-15 10:45:27 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: r1niceboy: It all boiled down to intent, and whether Zimmerman acted appropriately before the confrontation. He didn't,

How did he not act appropriately before the confrontation?
He did the same thing he did all the other times he called 911.  He observed, reported and kept track of where the person was so when the police showed up he could tell them where the person body was.


FTFY
 
2013-07-15 10:45:35 AM

Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin

George Zimmerman was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  watching his neighborhood. But for Trayvon Martin actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did facts at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocentguilty of the murder of Martin

FTFY
 
2013-07-15 10:45:35 AM
If I were a "told you so" type of guy, this would be the thread where I pointed out "I told you so."

Because I totally told you so.
 
2013-07-15 10:45:35 AM

Popcorn Johnny: God Is My Co-Pirate: And if GZ hadn't assumed that a black kid walking down the street was a criminal, and hadn't been itching to play the hero in his own head, nothing would have happened.

If Trayvon hadn't been casing houses while high on weed, nothing would have happened.
If Trayvon hadn't made it safely to his home and then doubled back to confront Zim, nothing would have happened.
If Trayvon hadn't launched a violent assault, nothing would have happened.
If Trayvon had stopped his violent assault when told to by John Goode, nothing would have happened.
If Trayvon was subject to a little discipline in his life and had been grounded, nothing would have happened.

Wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee this is fun!!!


I am aware of no evidence suggesting that Mr. Martin was "casing houses" on the night of his death.

To my knowledge, the claim that Mr. Martin had arrived at his father's home before departing to confront Mr. Zimmerman is, while based upon testimony by a witness for the prosecution, not fully confirmed.
 
2013-07-15 10:45:37 AM

Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin



Because when you are attacked by some guy that wants to bash your skull into the sidewalk, you need to accept it....
 
2013-07-15 10:45:39 AM

Latinwolf: Funny how people who normally say "innocent until proven guilty" are quick to keep labeling Trayvon Martin as a criminal who deserved to die when there's never been any proof he was up to no good that night.


We do know he was up to no good when George Zimmerman pulled the trigger, and that's good enough for a finding of self-defense.
 
2013-07-15 10:46:15 AM
Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight
 
2013-07-15 10:46:46 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: 99sportster: ikanreed: The Muthaship: Magorn: But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Well, one of us is delusional....

There's a difference between not-guilty and innocent.

Really?  "Innocent until proven guilty".  He was not proven guilty, therefore, he IS innocent.

Come back when you understand the difference between a not guilty verdict and being innocent.


If the jury had the option of choosing completely innocent like MOM wanted they might have picked it. As it stands the picked the only option they could to say Zimmerman wasn't criminally liable for shooting Martin.
 
2013-07-15 10:47:05 AM

skozlaw: Magorn: The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.

How would they have prosecuted successfully when Zimmerman was hiding behind one of the stupidest "right to kill" laws in the nation? The law is what it is:

A person who is not engaged in an unlawful activity and who is attacked in any other place where he or she has a right to be has no duty to retreat and has the right to stand his or her ground and meet force with force, including deadly force if he or she reasonably believes it is necessary to do so to prevent death or great bodily harm to himself or herself or another or to prevent the commission of a forcible felony.

In Florida, it doesn't matter if your actions are what instigated a fight as long as they weren't violent. All that matters is that Martin was attacking Zimmerman when Zimmerman shot him. The stalking and harassment are immaterial and it's not illegal to be a racist prick. And since Zimmerman killed the only other eyewitness to the start of the fight, it was his word against nobody's as to how the physical altercation actually started.

This is a simple case of a bunch of suburban Rambo wannabes throwing a brainless law on the books with no real regard for the potential consequences. Without any other eyewitness to the actual start of the physical fight I fail to see how the prosecution was going to do win this when they're fighting against such a broad law.


You are correct. If Florida law required citizens who are subjected to a violent attack to endure the assault without engaging in action that may injure or kill their attacker, Mr. Martin may still be alive today. Hopefully, federal legislation will be proposed to correct the matter and protect the rights of violent attackers.
 
2013-07-15 10:47:32 AM

Latinwolf: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Funny how people who normally say "innocent until proven guilty" are quick to keep labeling Trayvon Martin as a criminal who deserved to die when there's never been any proof he was up to no good that night.


Funny how your strawman is not based on reality.
If you need a strawman that is that lame to support your viewpoint, maybe your viewpoint is exceptionally weak.
 
2013-07-15 10:47:43 AM

dr_blasto: DROxINxTHExWIND: From comments in previous threads, I know a lot of Farkers are disappointed that there was no rioting. I think the unrest that came after the Rodney King verdict was in part because of the shock that the officers would walk. Nothing about the verdict in the Trayvon Martin case was shocking.

The riots in LA after the Rodney King verdict were due to years and years of abuse of poorer and mostly minority citizens by the system and its enforcers, corrupt and abusive cops that percieved their job as fighting a war against those very people they were charged with protecting. That verdict was just the spark. The unrest was already at a boil just under the surface.


Yep.  Plus there was a video of Rodney King.  There is no video here.
 
2013-07-15 10:48:14 AM
Someone needs to talk sense into all of the rioters. Oh wait, that'll never happen since they are being taken advantage of by the African American leaders who know the verdict is correct.
 
2013-07-15 10:48:23 AM

Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight


Pretty much. It is terrible that physically weaker people can use a gun when being over powered by an attacker. They should just take their beating then hit the gym.
 
2013-07-15 10:48:38 AM

GORDON: Black folks know whats up... Trayvon was asking for it when he attacked.  Not a lot to be outraged about "When Keeping It Real Goes Wrong."


LOL. The worst part about the internet is it gives weak people a platform to say things that they could not and would not anywhere else. Black people mut not be too bad to you since you obviously watched the Chapelle Show. I guess he's one of he good ones?
 
2013-07-15 10:48:44 AM
This has been one of the more shameful things concocted by this administration.  If they continue to pursue it in federal court, I think it will ultimately come back to bite them in the ass.

/and Harry Reid ought to be ashamed
//but, I don't think he has the capacity
 
2013-07-15 10:49:41 AM

Dimensio: I am aware of no evidence suggesting that Mr. Martin was "casing houses" on the night of his death.


Sure there is, Zim's phone call to report Trayvon's suspicious behavior. Or are you going with the ridiculous talking point that Zim called the police soley because he saw a black guy in hie neighborhood?
 
2013-07-15 10:49:43 AM

Phil McKraken: At what point did Martin waive his right to self defense? When he allegedly started the fight with Zimmerman? Was he not correct in fearing for his life?


So, you agree that neither one should have been charged under Florida law and neither one should have faced potential financial ruin and lost future for themselves and their family due to this case?
 
2013-07-15 10:49:46 AM

Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.


*TWEEEEET*

Markley's Law violation.  Fifteen yard penalty, and loss of argument.
 
2013-07-15 10:49:47 AM

God Is My Co-Pirate: Litterbox: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

You need to put your emotions aside and look at the physical evidence.  If TM had not assaulted GZ, TM would be alive.

And if GZ hadn't assumed that a black kid walking down the street was a criminal, and hadn't been itching to play the hero in his own head, nothing would have happened.


And if it had been a black man following a white person, you'd have people saying he had a right to confront that person in regards to why he was being following, not to let it slide.  Mind you the last time I pointed this out I was accused of playing the race card by one of the very same farkers who was running around saying "Black people will riot if Zimmerman is found not guilty".
 
2013-07-15 10:49:59 AM

Some Bass Playing Guy: 99sportster: ikanreed: The Muthaship: Magorn: But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

Well, one of us is delusional....

There's a difference between not-guilty and innocent.

Really?  "Innocent until proven guilty".  He was not proven guilty, therefore, he IS innocent.

Come back when you understand the difference between a not guilty verdict and being innocent.


OK, so it's actually "Not guilty until proven guilty". I'm glad you cleared that up.  People have been getting it wrong for YEARS.

By the way, sport, there's no such thing as a verdict of "Innocent".  However, if you are "Innocent until proven guilty" and you are not proven guilty (ergo, you never GET TO the "until proven guilty" part), you're still at "innocent".
 
2013-07-15 10:50:23 AM
DROxINxTHExWIND

The worst part about the internet is it gives weak people a platform to say things that they could not and would not anywhere else.

Like all the "Imma gon riot" people. They didn't; they won't. Just ITGs talking shiat behind a keyboard/phone in 140 characters of impotent rage.
 
2013-07-15 10:50:28 AM

Aarontology: I'll bet Fox News is devastated they didn't get the race riots they wanted.


Well, the benefit is that the NAACP and other race based organizations will make millions in fundraising off the verdict.
 
2013-07-15 10:50:39 AM
Submitter sounds dissappointed.
 
2013-07-15 10:51:43 AM

Carth: Azlefty: Sadly Zimmerman is the  poster child for those who actually use the  gun as a peener replacement.

All of that MMA training, working out and all of his ITG  bravado and yet he still lets the  teenager biatch slap him to the ground where all he can do is scream like a little girl with her panties in a bunch until he shoots  the  kid.

Face it Trayvon was shot and killed because Zimmerman was a puss and could not fight

Pretty much. It is terrible that physically weaker people can use a gun when being over powered by an attacker. They should just take their beating then hit the gym.


Or accept they are a pussy and not confront strangers because they think they may be up to no good.
 
2013-07-15 10:51:46 AM

The Muthaship: This has been one of the more shameful things concocted by this administration.  If they continue to pursue it in federal court, I think it will ultimately come back to bite them in the ass.

/and Harry Reid ought to be ashamed
//but, I don't think he has the capacity


Are you in the correct thread?
 
2013-07-15 10:52:18 AM

omeganuepsilon: urbangirl: FTFY

Conveniently ignoring the truth of the situation is not fixing anything.

Violence perpetrated by a No Limit Youth is what led to his demise.  A violent path that he was on that even his friends warned him away from(the texts that were not admitted to the court talking about fighting).  Even Rachel told him to run, and she's barely self aware.


You're absolutely right.  I mean it's not as if Zimmerman ignored the warnings of actual real live police officers and instead got out of his car and created a dangerous situation where one didn't actually exist.  And it's not as if he did this before Martin ever had the opportunity to act violently.

It's not as if that's what happened.
 
2013-07-15 10:52:19 AM

Popcorn Johnny: Sure there is, Zim's phone call to report Trayvon's suspicious behavior.


But he's always calling the cops, everything was suspicious.
 
2013-07-15 10:52:39 AM

Diogenes: Popcorn Johnny: Magorn: But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

100% innocent not guilty in the lawful killing of the Skittles kid.

Was OJ "innocent" too?  You know the difference.


As innocent as Casey Anthony and Robert Blake. Seems like California and Florida are the best places to get away with murder.
 
2013-07-15 10:52:59 AM

born_yesterday: dittybopper: I_C_Weener: Diogenes: Does anyone know if this went through a Grand Jury first?

It did not.

Which speaks volumes.  The grand jury process is *HEAVILY* biased towards the prosecution, and yet the process was sidestepped even though there was a sitting grand jury that could have heard the case.

The case against Zimmerman was so weak that Angela Corey didn't want to risk a no-true-bill result.

I watch a lot of Law & Order, so I'm practically a lawyer, but I have to ask:  if you can side-step a grand jury, then why bother with them as part of our legal process at all?  I thought an indictment from the grand jury was kind of a big deal?


There sre two ways of Charging a subject in most jurisdictions: 1) by indictment form a Grand Jury  2) by the Filing of a "criminal information" by the prosecutor.

The reason you use a Grand Jury in such jurisdictions is 1) to test out questionable fact patterns/ give prosecutors politcal cover 2) to avoid a "preliminary hearing" that the defendant is entitled to if you file by criminal information.

a Preliminary hearing is essenitally a mini-trial in which the prosecution has to give a preview of all their evidence ti the judge to convince them there is probable cause to charge.  The defense is entitled to be present at this hearing and cross-examine witnesses-somethng they don;t get to do with a grand Jury
 
2013-07-15 10:53:22 AM

Latinwolf: God Is My Co-Pirate: Litterbox: Magorn: The Muthaship: FTA-   "In what universe does it make any sense, could it be considered legal, to stalk, confront, and murder a completely innocent teenager?" Stark asked a vocal, yet peaceful crowd.

I don't know, Mr. Stark.  What universe did that happen in?

this one.  Trayvon Martin is dead.   Trayvon Martin was legally and innocently walking from a store to his home when he was killed.  But for George Zimmerman's actions on that night Martin would still be alive.  Fact are facts.  The Not Guilty verdict was the correct one based on the very poor job the prosecution did at trial.  But you are delusional if you think Zimmerman is in any way innocent of the murder of Martin

You need to put your emotions aside and look at the physical evidence.  If TM had not assaulted GZ, TM would be alive.

And if GZ hadn't assumed that a black kid walking down the street was a criminal, and hadn't been itching to play the hero in his own head, nothing would have happened.

And if it had been a black man following a white person, you'd have people saying he had a right to confront that person in regards to why he was being following, not to let it slide.  Mind you the last time I pointed this out I was accused of playing the race card by one of the very same farkers who was running around saying "Black people will riot if Zimmerman is found not guilty".


Still confused on the whole confront vs assault i see, maybe you can have someone explain it to you?
 
2013-07-15 10:53:32 AM
The Muthaship: ... no crime was committed.

That isn't what a finding of "not guilty" means.  It means the jury of six people found that there was not a "reasonable doubt" that particular charged crimes were committed.  So Zimmerman won't face any criminal punishment for the particular charged crimes.

However, a finding of "not guilty" is not always correct.  Juries make mistakes.  Sometimes they rule that self-defense was a justifiable excuse for action, when it reality it may not have been.  Sometimes the jury doesn't have enough information to determine what really happened.  In this case, it appears the only information the jury really had about the events preceding the homicide is what Zimmerman himself reported to the police.  Those statement may or may not have been true, but obviously the jury felt there was enough doubt surrounding the case that prevented them from a conviction of guilty beyond a reasonable doubt.

We know many times that juries are wrong.  Hundreds of convicted murderers have been set free from death row after many years behind bars after DNA evidence absolved them of crimes.  There have also been many cases where people have been found not-guilty when in fact they did commit the crimes.

I don't necessarily think the jury made a mistake.  I don't know what happened that night and I didn't hear all of the evidence.  I just know that it's certainly well within the reason of possibility that the jury erred.
 
2013-07-15 10:53:33 AM
No riots because Zimmerman is not white.

/Haven't followed the story.
 
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