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2013-07-15 10:17:22 AM  
nibble
 
2013-07-15 10:19:09 AM  
Ummm, welcome to 2007-8?
 
2013-07-15 10:19:35 AM  
The GOP using fear to control their base - what a surprise.
 
2013-07-15 10:19:49 AM  
Hmm why didn't Ric Rimero cover with headlines. Conservatives scare tactics of things that will never happen.
 
2013-07-15 10:20:10 AM  
The biggest anti-Hillary money-grabber is America Rising, a Republican super-PAC created to research and track Democratic candidates on a year-round basis. Run by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign manager, Matt Rhoades

I cannot emphasize enough how much conservatives should support a PAC led by a man with such impeccable credentials.
 
2013-07-15 10:20:26 AM  

DarwiOdrade: The GOP using fear to control their base - what a surprise.



They can use any other emotion and seem human.
 
2013-07-15 10:20:38 AM  
I'm against dynasties as a rule of thumb.  But, if the American people are so stoopid as to vote in one, I'd rather it be a Clinton than a Bush.
 
2013-07-15 10:21:28 AM  
What's the conservative obsession with this strong conservative woman?
 
2013-07-15 10:21:30 AM  
I'm beginning to think the real ideological basis of the republican party is encapsulated in the phrase "A fool and his money are soon parted."
 
2013-07-15 10:22:11 AM  
What are the odds of them saying that she'd be "the most liberal president in history"?
 
2013-07-15 10:23:24 AM  
Wow, this will be highly effective.     Mississippi, Georgia and Oklahoma are going to from really, really red to really, really, realy red.
 
2013-07-15 10:23:34 AM  
You notice how the GOP is not for anything just against things?
 
2013-07-15 10:23:57 AM  
It must be exhausting to be this fearful and paranoid all the time.
 
2013-07-15 10:24:44 AM  

theknuckler_33: What are the odds of them saying that she'd be "the most liberal president in history"?


Radical Leftist Feminist muslim
 
2013-07-15 10:26:52 AM  

Corvus: You notice how the GOP is not for anything just against things?


Tax cuts for the 1%. Tax increases on the middle class. For them they are.
 
2013-07-15 10:28:19 AM  

Dog Welder: It must be exhausting to be this fearful and paranoid all the time.


They save energy by riding around in hover rounds instead of walking.  It is the only way to maintain the envy to rage.
 
2013-07-15 10:28:48 AM  

ikanreed: I'm beginning to think the real ideological basis of the republican party is encapsulated in the phrase "A fool and his money are soon parted."


DING DING DING DING DING DING
 
2013-07-15 10:29:35 AM  
I visited your mother's box office last night
 
2013-07-15 10:29:58 AM  

bmongar: Dog Welder: It must be exhausting to be this fearful and paranoid all the time.

They save energy by riding around in hover rounds instead of walking.  It is the only way to maintain the envy to rage.


Those Hoverounds are paid for be Medicare - SOCIALISM!
 
2013-07-15 10:30:20 AM  
Didn't they show that movie to death in 2008? I hope they at least remastered it and included some extras.
 
2013-07-15 10:30:28 AM  
"Run by Mitt Romney's 2012 campaign manager, Matt Rhoades"

Matt Roads. Matt Ro-ads.
 
2013-07-15 10:30:53 AM  
I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.
 
2013-07-15 10:31:00 AM  
Conservatives are getting the band back together. I'm actually curious to see who crawls out of the GOP woodwork on this one.
 
2013-07-15 10:31:15 AM  

DarwiOdrade: The GOP using fear to control their base - what a surprise.


I've heard the same thing works for keeping the local systems in line.
 
2013-07-15 10:31:45 AM  
www.smallgovtimes.com
"Hey, didn't you want Hillary to be president at some point? But, I'm sure she's a shoo-in for the nomination this time. Please, proceed."
 
2013-07-15 10:34:53 AM  

Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.


They can go further?
 
2013-07-15 10:36:55 AM  

Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.


And when she wins, GOP heads might literally explode. Not sure what the science is behind that, but something is going to happen.
 
2013-07-15 10:36:55 AM  

VictoryCabal: Conservatives are getting the band back together.


They'll never get that fab sound again, not without some more horns. They'll never get Mr. Fabulous.
 
2013-07-15 10:37:13 AM  
Say, is Hillaryis44.org still up and running?
 
2013-07-15 10:37:38 AM  
And yet it's the liberals who fear "strong women" like Sarah Palin.
 
2013-07-15 10:37:45 AM  

Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?


Well, they turned the racism up to 11* when Obama was elected, so I am sure they will do the same thing for misogyny if/when Hillary is back in the White House.

/ 11 for Republicans. eighty bajillion for the sane world.
 
2013-07-15 10:38:51 AM  
Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.
 
2013-07-15 10:39:16 AM  

Ted_Crisp: They can go further?


I think it'll be more like they'll just stop holding back.

thornhill: And when she wins, GOP heads might literally explode. Not sure what the science is behind that, but something is going to happen.


Their blood will literally boil, and their veins won't be able to contain the pressure.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:04 AM  

DarwiOdrade: The GOP using fear to control their base - what a surprise.


Well, fear is the mind-killer.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:44 AM  

dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.


If Hillary is the Dem nominee, she'll win.

I'm more confident about that now than I was in 2007-08.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:47 AM  

dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins.


Meh - the GOP thought that about Obama's second term and look what happened.
 
2013-07-15 10:41:57 AM  

cubic_spleen: Well, they turned the racism up to 11* when Obama was elected, so I am sure they will do the same thing for misogyny if/when Hillary is back in the White House.


Are you claiming that the GOP's War on Women isn't at 11 yet?

// I guess the US Congress hasn't gone full TX yet...
 
2013-07-15 10:43:22 AM  

cubic_spleen: Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?

Well, they turned the racism up to 11* when Obama was elected, so I am sure they will do the same thing for misogyny if/when Hillary is back in the White House.

/ 11 for Republicans. eighty bajillion for the sane world.


Based off their current abortion legislation, and the comments by their candidates during the last election, I'd say the republican's misogyny dial is already well past 11.
 
2013-07-15 10:44:11 AM  
These more sound like scams to rip off and pocket money off stupid right wingers then serious political groups.
 
2013-07-15 10:46:32 AM  

dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.


You mean the woman with the 50+ approval rating despite having spent the last 20 years in political crosshairs having every allegation and trumped up "scandal" thrown against her.   The woman who recently polled steamrolled every potential GOP candidate except for Christie, who she merely had a sizeable lead over.
 
2013-07-15 10:48:26 AM  
Screw that my friends HIllary is just part of the machine. We want Elizabeth Warren for president!
 
2013-07-15 10:49:54 AM  

Doc Daneeka: dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.

If Hillary is the Dem nominee, she'll win.

I'm more confident about that now than I was in 2007-08.


I'm not, Elizabeth Warren is going to win.
 
2013-07-15 10:50:12 AM  

InmanRoshi: You mean the woman with the 50+ approval rating despite having spent the last 20 years in political crosshairs having every allegation and trumped up "scandal" thrown against her. The woman who recently polled steamrolled every potential GOP candidate except for Christie, who she merely had a sizeable lead over.


He sounds concerned, doesn't he?
 
2013-07-15 10:52:04 AM  
I've worked in local gov't good ol' boy circles during up Hillary's presidential run  (this was long before the primaries were even on the horizon) and it was as if you'd thrown a box of rattlesnakes into the center of the room. Just wildly vitriolic responses. This was pretty obviously in an Old Southern patriarchal crowd.

I guess I expected a 'dismissive' attitude from this particular demographic when the potential for her to get close to the presidency didn't seem very viable, but there was immediately a serious truckload of FUD getting tossed about even back then.

I'll be loading up the popcorn and spectator snacks for this next round.
 
2013-07-15 10:53:00 AM  
The Democrats would do better putting somebody like Warren out there. There is just too much irrational dislike of Hillary Clinton still out there, and not only from misogyny. This isn't saying that the Republicans have anybody better since the party seems to have gone full retard in the last decade and a half, it's just saying that the race would be less close with Warren than it would Clinton, because it would probably bring some left leaning people that vote Green back to the D party (which seems to have become pretty conservative itself...pre-Watergate Nixon would probably be a Democrat in today's arena).

/Teddy Roosevelt, rabid trust buster and conservationist, would be labeled a dangerous socialist by both parties today
 
2013-07-15 10:53:46 AM  
^ Hillary's last *potential* presidential run
 
2013-07-15 10:55:09 AM  

theknuckler_33: VictoryCabal: Conservatives are getting the band back together.

They'll never get that fab sound again, not without some more horns. They'll never get Mr. Fabulous.


And who among the current Republican field is powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline?
 
2013-07-15 10:57:14 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: InmanRoshi: You mean the woman with the 50+ approval rating despite having spent the last 20 years in political crosshairs having every allegation and trumped up "scandal" thrown against her. The woman who recently polled steamrolled every potential GOP candidate except for Christie, who she merely had a sizeable lead over.

He sounds concerned, doesn't he?


I mean, really, Christie is the only potential GOP candidate who is more popular than anal warts, and aside from the fact that he'll never get the GOP nomination in a million years because he worked with sekret moslem kenyan userper, he's only this popular because he's still an unknown through most of the country.   He's the smiling fat guy who helped his voters out after a hurricane.    Unless you've lived in New Jersey, you've never seen a single negative political ad against Christie.   His current popularity rates are unsustainable once he starts getting into the muck and mire of campaigning.   Meanwhile, what on earth could the GOP hit HIllary with that she hasn't already had thrown at her in the last 20 years?   They're going to reheat some crazy Vince Foster conspiracy theories from 1995?
 
2013-07-15 11:00:05 AM  

buzzcut73: The Democrats would do better putting somebody like Warren out there. There is just too much irrational dislike of Hillary Clinton still out there, and not only from misogyny.



I'm a Warren fan, but she only got 54% of the vote in her Senate run in one of the most pro-Democrat states in the country.   She's not winning any state remotely purple.
 
2013-07-15 11:00:08 AM  
Here's looking to Bachmann/Palin or Santorum/Brownback in 2016. Run, baby, run!
 
2013-07-15 11:00:37 AM  

Karac: cubic_spleen: Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?

Well, they turned the racism up to 11* when Obama was elected, so I am sure they will do the same thing for misogyny if/when Hillary is back in the White House.

/ 11 for Republicans. eighty bajillion for the sane world.

Based off their current abortion legislation, and the comments by their candidates during the last election, I'd say the republican's misogyny dial is already well past 11.


Well, sure. Republican misogyny is in the low hundreds by the standards of the rational, sane, post-900-A.D. world. But by internal Republican standards, they are only at about 6.
 
2013-07-15 11:03:15 AM  

cubic_spleen: Karac: cubic_spleen: Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?

Well, they turned the racism up to 11* when Obama was elected, so I am sure they will do the same thing for misogyny if/when Hillary is back in the White House.

/ 11 for Republicans. eighty bajillion for the sane world.

Based off their current abortion legislation, and the comments by their candidates during the last election, I'd say the republican's misogyny dial is already well past 11.

Well, sure. Republican misogyny is in the low hundreds by the standards of the rational, sane, post-900-A.D. world. But by internal Republican standards, they are only at about 6.


Well of course, once the polls were unskewed.
 
2013-07-15 11:03:32 AM  
Is it a sequel?

media.npr.org
 
2013-07-15 11:03:45 AM  

InmanRoshi: dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.

You mean the woman with the 50+ approval rating despite having spent the last 20 years in political crosshairs having every allegation and trumped up "scandal" thrown against her.   The woman who recently polled steamrolled every potential GOP candidate except for Christie, who she merely had a sizeable lead over.


The spleen and vitriol, dirty tricks, opposition research and voter suppression machinery are already running.
Not to mention Electoral College chicanery.
It's going to be factorially uglier than the campaigns against Obama. I expect SCOTUS to insert themselves again.
 
2013-07-15 11:08:21 AM  

Corvus: You notice how the GOP is not for anything just against things?


They were for a lot of things before they were against them - like the Individual Mandate.
 
2013-07-15 11:11:18 AM  

dionysusaur: It's going to be factorially uglier than the campaigns against Obama. I expect SCOTUS to insert themselves again.


No, it really wont.  They've been using the "tricks" for 25 years, and they still can't touch her with a 20 foot pole.  She's only getting more popular over time.   She'll win all the states Obama won in 2004 and 2008, and probably make states like Kentucky purple (Bill Clinton won the state in 1992 and 1996) where Democrats fare better when they aren't black.
 
2013-07-15 11:12:32 AM  
Hillary 2024:

enpundit.com

Santorum 2024:

desktop.freewallpaper4.me
 
2013-07-15 11:14:10 AM  

theknuckler_33: VictoryCabal: Conservatives are getting the band back together.

They'll never get that fab sound again, not without some more horns. They'll never get Mr. Fabulous.


Their band was never, ever powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.

/they play both kinds, derp and derpier.
 
2013-07-15 11:15:23 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Doc Daneeka: dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.

If Hillary is the Dem nominee, she'll win.

I'm more confident about that now than I was in 2007-08.

I'm not, Elizabeth Warren is going to win.


Either you missed the conditional clause in my statement, or you believe that Elizabeth Warren will be running as something other than a Democrat.  Which is it?
 
2013-07-15 11:15:55 AM  

TheLopper: theknuckler_33: VictoryCabal: Conservatives are getting the band back together.

They'll never get that fab sound again, not without some more horns. They'll never get Mr. Fabulous.

Their band was never, ever powerful enough to turn goat piss into gasoline.

/they play both kinds, derp and derpier.


Murph...and the Magic Tones?

/Cuando, Cuando, Cuando, Cuan-dooooo
 
2013-07-15 11:17:53 AM  

Target Builder: Corvus: You notice how the GOP is not for anything just against things?

They were for a lot of things before they were against them - like the Individual Mandate.


Carbon cap-and-trade was originally a Republican idea.  A conservative alternative to a hypothetical carbon tax.

Republicans have historically (and successfully) championed cap-and-trade schemes to control other pollutants.
 
2013-07-15 11:27:45 AM  

bdub77: Hillary 2024:

[enpundit.com image 600x410]

Santorum 2024:

[desktop.freewallpaper4.me image 850x531]


BS not enough suffering and crying children in that last one. Wherever Santorum passes children cry.
 
2013-07-15 11:34:05 AM  

Slaves2Darkness: Screw that my friends HIllary is just part of the machine. We want Elizabeth Warren for president!


this a million time over. probably won't happen but one can dream.
 
2013-07-15 11:37:07 AM  

buzzcut73: The Democrats would do better putting somebody like Warren out there. There is just too much irrational dislike of Hillary Clinton still out there, and not only from misogyny. This isn't saying that the Republicans have anybody better since the party seems to have gone full retard in the last decade and a half, it's just saying that the race would be less close with Warren than it would Clinton, because it would probably bring some left leaning people that vote Green back to the D party (which seems to have become pretty conservative itself...pre-Watergate Nixon would probably be a Democrat in today's arena).

/Teddy Roosevelt, rabid trust buster and conservationist, would be labeled a dangerous socialist by both parties today


The Republicans will still mercilessly attack any Democrat that runs and wins. They have for the past 35 years, no reason to stop now*.

Any.

That is their MO. The Republicans will continue because they keep getting elected in great enough numbers to disrupt the political process and the Republicans don't have to worry about becoming a non-factor until at least 2018ish. What happened when the Democrats did have enough votes for those few months? It was like herding cats. Republican bashing happened to Carter (with help from Congressional Dems), It happened with Bill Clinton. Would have happened with Gore. It's happening with Obama. What makes you think the Republicans will suddenly work with a Democrat (rhetorical, *I know 'but, but less votes' - not going to happen in my life time)? Until the Democrats come out with a unified message and unified goals this (waves hands) will continue.

And the Democrats won't because they are too fragmented.

When will you people learn. It isn't about race. It isn't about gender. It isn't about what sky-wizard flavor you believe in. It's about power to Republicans. Until they learn (won't happen) that they need to work with Democrats (won't happen) to better the US as a whole rather than their own Fiefdoms (won't happen) we'll be stuck in idle waiting for the next ReaganGWB.
 
2013-07-15 11:42:16 AM  

mitEj: bdub77: Hillary 2024:

[enpundit.com image 600x410]

Santorum 2024:

[desktop.freewallpaper4.me image 850x531]

BS not enough suffering and crying children in that last one. Wherever Santorum passes children cry.


What's funny is that I can't see the Santorum picture at work... probably a good thing.

Also, for those people who think Hilary running means a Republican winning, you're nuts. The reason why she's being targeted as the next candidate is because she's going to be pushed that way, and the R's will be freaking out instead of putting a sane* candidate to properly debate against her. If she runs, she wins.

*that is to say, if they had any sane people who would call themselves Republican presidential nominees
 
2013-07-15 11:45:46 AM  

mitEj: bdub77: Hillary 2024:

[enpundit.com image 600x410]

Santorum 2024:

[desktop.freewallpaper4.me image 850x531]

BS not enough suffering and crying children in that last one. Wherever Santorum passes children cry.


I'm pretty sure there will be even more childish crying if Hillary wins.
 
2013-07-15 11:46:27 AM  
I don't want to be labeled as a concern troll, but I'm wary of Hillary as the nominee.  Hear me out.  One of the reasons the Democrats have enjoyed such success in recent national elections is their advantage in voter enthusiasm over Republican voters.  I do beleive Hillary Clinton as a nominee could rally the Republican base in a way that milquetoast candidates like McCain and Romney couldn't.  I'm not saying the Republicans have anything concrete to use against her or that she's guaranteed to fail, there's just some sort of visceral Pavlovian response to the word Clinton that may bring a crumbling conservative voting sect back into lock step.
 
2013-07-15 11:47:17 AM  

theorellior: Here's looking to Bachmann/Palin or Santorum/Brownback in 2016. Run, baby, run!


I don't want to live with an internet that tries to make visual jokes out of that combination of names.
 
2013-07-15 12:17:40 PM  

stevie1der: I don't want to be labeled as a concern troll, but I'm wary of Hillary as the nominee.  Hear me out.  One of the reasons the Democrats have enjoyed such success in recent national elections is their advantage in voter enthusiasm over Republican voters.  I do beleive Hillary Clinton as a nominee could rally the Republican base in a way that milquetoast candidates like McCain and Romney couldn't.  I'm not saying the Republicans have anything concrete to use against her or that she's guaranteed to fail, there's just some sort of visceral Pavlovian response to the word Clinton that may bring a crumbling conservative voting sect back into lock step.


More than Barack HUSSEIN Muslin-as-all-hell Born-in-the-very-beating-heart-of-Africa Taxpayers-are-Jews-for-his-ovens Obama?  Really??
 
2013-07-15 12:19:57 PM  

stevie1der: I don't want to be labeled as a concern troll, but I'm wary of Hillary as the nominee.  Hear me out.  One of the reasons the Democrats have enjoyed such success in recent national elections is their advantage in voter enthusiasm over Republican voters.  I do beleive Hillary Clinton as a nominee could rally the Republican base in a way that milquetoast candidates like McCain and Romney couldn't.  I'm not saying the Republicans have anything concrete to use against her or that she's guaranteed to fail, there's just some sort of visceral Pavlovian response to the word Clinton that may bring a crumbling conservative voting sect back into lock step.


I honestly think the "anti-Clinton vitriol" is overstated and over-estimated.  Most of the anti-Clinton vitriol on the right has been replaced by anti-Obama vitriol, and what's left of it isn't as fresh and powerful as it once was.

The Clinton administration was a long time ago.  A lot of time has passed, filled mostly with the disastrous Bush years, that I think most people look back now and recognize that the Clinton years were pretty damned good for America.
 
2013-07-15 12:40:31 PM  

buzzcut73: The Democrats would do better putting somebody like Warren out there. There is just too much irrational dislike of Hillary Clinton still out there, and not only from misogyny.


Right because if they just put someone else out there the Republicans won't generate irrational dislike for them. Because after Obama become the nominee the Republicans didn't make up anything to take him riiiiight?
 
2013-07-15 12:41:08 PM  

Doc Daneeka: The Clinton administration was a long time ago. A lot of time has passed, filled mostly with the disastrous Bush years, that I think most people look back now and recognize that the Clinton years were pretty damned good for America.


You mean when Clinton failed to capture Osama bin Laden?! Yes, this is what cons believe. This was the post-9/11 narrative. It was BILL CLINTON'S job to stop Bin Laden before the 9/11 attacks, and he dropped the ball. Your party of personal accountability, everybody!
 
2013-07-15 12:42:28 PM  
Two things you can be sure of:

1) Democrats don't necessarily pick the establishment candidate and the Republicans always do.
2) Republicans are always sure who Democrats will pick at least a year early (see Dean in 2003 and Hilary in 2007).
 
2013-07-15 12:45:49 PM  

thurstonxhowell: theorellior: Here's looking to Bachmann/Palin or Santorum/Brownback in 2016. Run, baby, run!

I don't want to live with an internet that tries to make visual jokes out of that combination of names.


I'm not saying it's going to be a thing, buuuut.... it's going to be a thing now.
 
2013-07-15 12:47:21 PM  

Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?


Sure, if she becomes President, count the number of times a pundit refers to "That time of the month".

Of course, they won't say "Hillary's on the rag", it'll be "Well, it must be that time of the month again, President Clinton is proposing a new budget,"
 
2013-07-15 12:53:35 PM  
She's more qualified for the office than some presidents who ran for re-election.
 
2013-07-15 12:54:34 PM  

The Lone Gunman: Ted_Crisp: Aarontology: I kind of hope she does get the nomination for the sole reason of seeing just how disgustingly misogynistic the GOP can really get.

They can go further?

Sure, if she becomes President, count the number of times a pundit refers to "That time of the month".

Of course, they won't say "Hillary's on the rag", it'll be "Well, it must be that time of the month again, President Clinton is proposing a new budget,"


Showing once again that the workings of the female reproductive anatomy are lost on the GOP.

// pretty much any woman old enough to be in Congress has lost that ability
 
2013-07-15 12:58:10 PM  
If the republicans had someone who was first lady, senator, and secretary of state, they would run her as an outsider.
 
2013-07-15 01:00:44 PM  

stevie1der: I don't want to be labeled as a concern troll, but I'm wary of Hillary as the nominee.  Hear me out.  One of the reasons the Democrats have enjoyed such success in recent national elections is their advantage in voter enthusiasm over Republican voters.  I do beleive Hillary Clinton as a nominee could rally the Republican base in a way that milquetoast candidates like McCain and Romney couldn't.  I'm not saying the Republicans have anything concrete to use against her or that she's guaranteed to fail, there's just some sort of visceral Pavlovian response to the word Clinton that may bring a crumbling conservative voting sect back into lock step.


sure - sort of - maybe - not really
You would think that having a BLACK guy running the last two elections would have had a bigger impact, right?
Not enough, not even close.

The real problem is demographics. Those same clinton hating wack jobs have been dying off. Clinton will have been out of the whitehouse for 16 years.

Add in that the opposite side of the electorate LOVES clinton.
 
2013-07-15 01:13:45 PM  
www.geekalerts.com
 
2013-07-15 01:23:50 PM  

Corvus: buzzcut73: The Democrats would do better putting somebody like Warren out there. There is just too much irrational dislike of Hillary Clinton still out there, and not only from misogyny.

Right because if they just put someone else out there the Republicans won't generate irrational dislike for them. Because after Obama become the nominee the Republicans didn't make up anything to take him riiiiight?


Did you see Warren's Senate race?  Because I remember that getting pretty irrational.  The GOP noise machine spoke as little as humanly possible about the issues and much more about her being an Indian or whatever.
 
2013-07-15 01:41:35 PM  

dionysusaur: Hillary is the one candidate the D's could run that would guarantee wharever fool winds up in the R slot wins. The reanimated corpse of Ted Kennedy would do better. This makes me sad, as Hill has as close to a lock on that candidacy as on can have without Rove Emmanuel at the levers.


It's not 2004 any more.  Her negatives (other than for lizard-brain GOP loyalists) are in the distant past - only Benghazi can hurt her, even if it is a sham.

At this moment no one the GOP can offer has anything like the star power she radiates.  She is easily the most famous and important female politician since Maggie Thatcher.  And, with the GOP running full-blast anti-women vitriol in several states, if that continues, Clinton might win just on women alone.
 
2013-07-15 01:47:52 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: if that continues, Clinton might win just on women alone.


I have one worry on that: the delusional women that haven't looked at the facts, or have been running with the other not-directly-women-related talking points, or the brainwashed women who have been instructed to stay in the kitchen. Women's issues are still not being overwhelmingly toppled because of how many women still blindly vote red.
 
2013-07-15 01:48:37 PM  

Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's not 2004 any more.  Her negatives (other than for lizard-brain GOP loyalists) are in the distant past - only Benghazi can hurt her, even if it is a sham.

At this moment no one the GOP can offer has anything like the star power she radiates.  She is easily the most famous and important female politician since Maggie Thatcher.  And, with the GOP running full-blast anti-women vitriol in several states, if that continues, Clinton might win just on women alone.


Not a chance. There are too many jesus and anti-choice women voters.
But, no problem. The GOP hate for brown people continues unabated.
All the DEMS need to do is nominate an electable candidate - IE, someone that we will actually leave the house to vote for (unlike say, mondale or dukakis).
All the GOP needs to do is nominate one of the current nuts.

The worst case for the DEMS is a rational, moderate GOP candidate vs a Gore/Kerry clone/cyborg.
Good thing that that wont happen.
 
2013-07-15 01:50:02 PM  

Triple Oak: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: if that continues, Clinton might win just on women alone.

I have one worry on that: the delusional women that haven't looked at the facts, or have been running with the other not-directly-women-related talking points, or the brainwashed women who have been instructed to stay in the kitchen. Women's issues are still not being overwhelmingly toppled because of how many women still blindly vote red.


From what I have seen, the female, blind red voters are all voting jesus, abortion is evil and clinton got a blow job. We will NEVER get those voters to switch sides. Ever. They will stay home before they vote blue.
 
2013-07-15 02:00:38 PM  

namatad: Scorpitron is reduced to a thin red paste: It's not 2004 any more.  Her negatives (other than for lizard-brain GOP loyalists) are in the distant past - only Benghazi can hurt her, even if it is a sham.

At this moment no one the GOP can offer has anything like the star power she radiates.  She is easily the most famous and important female politician since Maggie Thatcher.  And, with the GOP running full-blast anti-women vitriol in several states, if that continues, Clinton might win just on women alone.

Not a chance. There are too many jesus and anti-choice women voters.
But, no problem. The GOP hate for brown people continues unabated.
All the DEMS need to do is nominate an electable candidate - IE, someone that we will actually leave the house to vote for (unlike say, mondale or dukakis).
All the GOP needs to do is nominate one of the current nuts.

The worst case for the DEMS is a rational, moderate GOP candidate vs a Gore/Kerry clone/cyborg.
Good thing that that wont happen.


Last November showed that the Jesus-freak and anti-choice voters cannot win a presidential election anymore.  That's why the GOP has shifted powerfully into restricting voters rights everywhere.  They're still aces (via gerrymandering, etc.) in lower tier elections, and HRC would bring out their troops in droves.  But Clinton supporters would be strong, too.
 
2013-07-15 02:09:06 PM  
When I lived in San Diego, the Republican convention was going on that nominated Bob Dole. I remember walking near the convention center and having my mind blown by the anti-hillary banners, pennants, bumperstickers that people were hawking. There was some really nasty misogynist screeds there. The amount of anti-hillary stuff dwarfed the amount of pro-Dole stuff. I remember being surprised at that.

Then again, I also remember two ladies in a restaurant talking about attending the convention and were saying Bob Dole kind of looked like a muppet and what a ridiculous candidate he was.
 
2013-07-15 03:16:01 PM  
So, Operation Chaos was an insincere farce? I'm totes surprised.
 
2013-07-15 03:20:27 PM  
At least we can all agree that the next president will be either a woman, or an obese (but jovial with a pointed wit) man, or maybe even a white hispanic, who knows.

I'm seriously doubting whether they even bother to pretend 2016 has elections.
 
2013-07-15 05:26:35 PM  

devilEther: [www.geekalerts.com image 500x500]


I bought one of those at Goodwill. It's a quality nutcracker.
 
2013-07-15 06:34:41 PM  

Dear Jerk: devilEther: [www.geekalerts.com image 500x500]

I bought one of those at Goodwill. It's a quality nutcracker.


There's a Bill Clinton serving device as well - a corkscrew.  I don't think you need a photo to get that picture.
 
2013-07-15 10:27:31 PM  
We should be so lucky.
 
2013-07-16 10:53:10 AM  
I won't repeat this again on Fark:
She does not want to run, she will not run, she has said repeatedly that she has no interest in running, ever.  It's not going to happen.

It  has made an excellent tool to whip the small brained idiots into a frenzy though, hasn't it.
 
2013-07-16 12:48:28 PM  

Reverend Monkeypants: She does not want to run, she will not run, she has said repeatedly that she has no interest in running, ever.


The first two are matters of speculation.  The third is something that is often said by potential candidates before deciding to run.

The facts are that:
1) She's one of the most qualified possible Democrats for the position (former FLOTUS, former Senator, former SecState)
2) She has all the necessary fundraising connections and campaign organization that any candidate could ask for
3) She's run for President before, which indicates that she wanted the office before, and most likely still does (people who think they would be good presidents, believe it enough to actually run, don't suddenly change their minds)
4) People who have strong showings but lose nominating fights often run again in subsequent elections
 
2013-07-16 06:46:47 PM  

Doc Daneeka: Reverend Monkeypants: She does not want to run, she will not run, she has said repeatedly that she has no interest in running, ever.

The first two are matters of speculation.  The third is something that is often said by potential candidates before deciding to run.

The facts are that:
1) She's one of the most qualified possible Democrats for the position (former FLOTUS, former Senator, former SecState)
2) She has all the necessary fundraising connections and campaign organization that any candidate could ask for
3) She's run for President before, which indicates that she wanted the office before, and most likely still does (people who think they would be good presidents, believe it enough to actually run, don't suddenly change their minds)
4) People who have strong showings but lose nominating fights often run again in subsequent elections


My money's on no, mostly because predictable is something this isn't.
 
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