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(Daily Mail)   Former Monty Python producer calls John Cleese "cowardly" and Eric Idle a "character assassin". He was only looking for the argument room   (dailymail.co.uk) divider line 57
    More: Interesting, John Cleese, Eric Idle, Monty Python, Michael Palin, Mad Magazine, stage musical, Terry Gilliam, Spamalot  
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2013-07-15 10:22:38 AM  
No, he isn't.
 
2013-07-15 10:34:16 AM  
He's just frustrated. You see, he never really wanted to be a producer...he always wanted to be a lumberjack.
 
2013-07-15 10:54:52 AM  
Please! This is supposed to be a happy occasion. Let's not bicker and argue over who killed who
 
2013-07-15 10:57:41 AM  
What, like Thilus the Athyrian Athathin?
 
2013-07-15 10:59:11 AM  
Nobody expects the Spanish producer.
 
2013-07-15 11:11:16 AM  
He should have been sacked.
 
2013-07-15 11:18:40 AM  
This guy's only involvement was on 'Grail'.

TFHeadline makes it sound like he produced the series, which he did not. And he's surprised that people he sued are not his very best friends - he sounds very dim.

Miserable fat Belgian bastard.
 
2013-07-15 11:21:28 AM  
That would be room 12A.
 
2013-07-15 11:25:10 AM  
Yep, and Mike Love says that Brian Wilson was a hack and that he (Mike) was the real genius behind the Beach Boys.
 
2013-07-15 11:27:18 AM  
Stwike him, centuwion... vewy woughwy!
 
2013-07-15 11:27:31 AM  
He needs to be slapped. With a fish.
 
2013-07-15 11:27:57 AM  
It's a fair cop but society's to blame.
 
2013-07-15 11:29:07 AM  

poot_rootbeer: It's a fair cop but society's to blame.


Don't talk to the audience!
 
2013-07-15 11:32:14 AM  
Shouldn't he owe them money for all of the incorrect titles and money paid to hire unneeded llama's?
 
2013-07-15 11:41:30 AM  
Producers, they want to take credit for everything.
 
2013-07-15 11:59:21 AM  

rikdanger: No, he isn't.


Yes he is.
 
2013-07-15 12:01:39 PM  
Forstater:"Do you have my  1/7th of the profits?"

Palin:  "Why yes, we do."

Forstater: "Excellent!  I'll take it"

Palin: "...Aww"

Forstater: "What?"

Palin: "...the cat's eaten it."

Forstater: "...£100,000,000?" 

Palin: "Not as such"

Forstater: " Half-a-million?"

Palin: "Yes?"

Forstater: "Oh, great!  I'll take it!"

Palin: "What?  Oh, no...that's my name; Edward Halvamilyan"

Forstater: "(sigh) £220,000?"

Palin: "Not to..."

Ex-Graham Chapman as The Colonel - "I am afraid this post has gone on far too long and become quite silly.  You will now settle for  £220,000 and end this ridiculous bit."
 
2013-07-15 12:02:01 PM  

Jodeo: rikdanger: No, he isn't.

Yes he is.


Isn't.
 
2013-07-15 12:03:58 PM  

rikdanger: Jodeo: rikdanger: No, he isn't.

Yes he is.

Isn't.


I'm sorry, is this the 5-minute argument or the full half-hour?
 
2013-07-15 12:06:32 PM  
Cleese is no coward. A malodorous toffeenosed pervert, however...
 
2013-07-15 12:07:22 PM  

LonMead: rikdanger: Jodeo: rikdanger: No, he isn't.

Yes he is.

Isn't.

I'm sorry, is this the 5-minute argument or the full half-hour?


I told you once.
 
2013-07-15 12:10:50 PM  
Constable Clitoris et one of those!
 
2013-07-15 12:12:58 PM  

EbolaNYC: LonMead: rikdanger: Jodeo: rikdanger: No, he isn't.

Yes he is.

Isn't.

I'm sorry, is this the 5-minute argument or the full half-hour?

I told you once.


Didn't.
 
2013-07-15 12:15:29 PM  
...was Mark Forstater's contention that he had been, in effect, a 'seventh Python'...

imageshack.us
Takes issue with that
 
2013-07-15 12:16:42 PM  
Sounds like someone has a boil on his Semprini
 
2013-07-15 12:21:47 PM  

Marquis de Sod: Sounds like someone has a boil on his Semprini


Out!
 
2013-07-15 12:22:20 PM  
Don't give me that, you snotty-faced heap of parrot droppings!
 
2013-07-15 12:22:33 PM  
Dammit! GIF is too big to post here. Gotta Link
 
2013-07-15 12:29:07 PM  

TimSTP: ...was Mark Forstater's contention that he had been, in effect, a 'seventh Python'...


Takes issue with that


There must be some mistake. That's not Caroll Cleveland...

Actually getting a kick out of this. Don't have cable or an antenna in our new house so we have been watching "16 Ton Megaset" for a week. Finished it and "Life of Python" last night and am as I type watching "At Last the 1948 Show" to be followed by "Do Not Adjust Your Set". Will finish with "Almost The Truth: The Lawyer's Cut" and the movies.

Then we move to "Star Trek: TOS"...
 
2013-07-15 12:43:19 PM  
imageshack.us


Would like to point out that this will in fact be the LAST time he will appear in this thread.
 
2013-07-15 12:45:39 PM  
He's a bitter person who worked on Monty Python, but he's okay!
 
2013-07-15 12:47:45 PM  
I have no problem believing John Cleese is a prick.
 
2013-07-15 12:48:27 PM  
Everyone was afraid of Eric. I saw grown men pull their heads off rather than see Eric.
 
2013-07-15 12:53:12 PM  
Whenever life gets you down, Mr. Forstater,
And things seem hard or tough,
And people are stupid, obnoxious or daft,
And you feel that you've had quite eno-o-o-o-o-ough,

Just remember that you're standing on a planet that's evolving
And revolving at nine hundred miles an hour.
That's orbiting at ninety miles a second, so it's reckoned,
A sun that is the source of all our power.
The sun, and you and me, and all the stars that we can see,
Are moving at a million miles a day,
In an outer spiral arm, at forty thousand miles an hour,
Of a galaxy we call the Milky Way.

Our galaxy itself contains a hundred billion stars;
It's a hundred thousand light-years side to side;
It bulges in the middle sixteen thousand light-years thick,
But out by us it's just three thousand light-years wide.
We're thirty thousand light-years from Galactic Central Point,
We go 'round every two hundred million years;
And our galaxy itself is only one of millions of billions
In this amazing and expanding universe.


The universe itself keeps on expanding and expanding,
In all of the directions it can whiz;
As fast as it can go, the speed of light, you know,
Twelve million miles a minute and that's the fastest speed there is.
So remember, when you're feeling very small and insecure,
How amazingly unlikely is your birth;
And pray that there's intelligent life somewhere out in space,
'Cause there's bugger all down here on Earth!
 
2013-07-15 12:57:07 PM  
thefatbasturd:
Actually getting a kick out of this. Don't have cable or an antenna in our new house so we have been watching "16 Ton Megaset" for a week. Finished it and "Life of Python" last night and am as I type watching "At Last the 1948 Show" to be followed by "Do Not Adjust Your Set". Will finish with "Almost The Truth: The Lawyer's Cut" and the movies.

Just a word of advice: DNAYS is incomplete (a lot of the episodes were wiped by Thames so that the videotapes could be reused), so what does exist is re-edited clips of the remaining shows. Also, despite what the packaging might say, none of Gilliam's animations for the show are on the DVDs.

/and even if you're a Python completist, feel free to skip How To Irritate People
 
2013-07-15 01:03:32 PM  

TimSTP: ...was Mark Forstater's contention that he had been, in effect, a 'seventh Python'...

[imageshack.us image 468x335]
Takes issue with that


cbshouston.files.wordpress.com

Ditto.
 
2013-07-15 01:20:35 PM  
His problem is NOT shooting down the assertion that he was the 7th Python. He should have always said, I AM NOT the fourth Python. I'm just their producer for Grail and entitled to 1/7th all proceeds as their producer. Letting people attribute him as the 7th muddles the waters and proposes more of his involvement than it was.

Egocentrics are also egocentric. Pythons "may" never have gotten as famous if MF has not gotten them their funding. But, since they did get famous they believe in their own destiny over his hard work. They should have just paid him his share. Guy billed at 1/7th and was paid for decades. Easy judgment.
 
2013-07-15 01:21:44 PM  
stupid autocorrect: 'I am not the 7th Python'
 
2013-07-15 01:44:06 PM  

BHShaman: stupid autocorrect: 'I am not the 7th Python'



What seven pythons may look like:

images.watoday.com.au
 
2013-07-15 01:44:53 PM  

whither_apophis: Everyone was afraid of Eric. I saw grown men pull their heads off rather than see Eric.


That's because he's half a bee.
 
2013-07-15 01:53:08 PM  
"Former Monty Python producer"

This...is an ex-producer!

/
relevant to my interests...
 
2013-07-15 01:59:15 PM  

puckrock2000: thefatbasturd:
Actually getting a kick out of this. Don't have cable or an antenna in our new house so we have been watching "16 Ton Megaset" for a week. Finished it and "Life of Python" last night and am as I type watching "At Last the 1948 Show" to be followed by "Do Not Adjust Your Set". Will finish with "Almost The Truth: The Lawyer's Cut" and the movies.

Just a word of advice: DNAYS is incomplete (a lot of the episodes were wiped by Thames so that the videotapes could be reused), so what does exist is re-edited clips of the remaining shows. Also, despite what the packaging might say, none of Gilliam's animations for the show are on the DVDs.

/and even if you're a Python completist, feel free to skip How To Irritate People


Same with "1948"...
 
2013-07-15 02:03:59 PM  

thefatbasturd: puckrock2000: thefatbasturd:
Actually getting a kick out of this. Don't have cable or an antenna in our new house so we have been watching "16 Ton Megaset" for a week. Finished it and "Life of Python" last night and am as I type watching "At Last the 1948 Show" to be followed by "Do Not Adjust Your Set". Will finish with "Almost The Truth: The Lawyer's Cut" and the movies.

Just a word of advice: DNAYS is incomplete (a lot of the episodes were wiped by Thames so that the videotapes could be reused), so what does exist is re-edited clips of the remaining shows. Also, despite what the packaging might say, none of Gilliam's animations for the show are on the DVDs.

/and even if you're a Python completist, feel free to skip How To Irritate People

Same with "1948"...


I kinda like "1948" (Four Yorkshiremen is pretty much the highlight). I include "The Secret Policemen's Other Ball"... think of it as Monty Python with excellent musical breaks between sketches.
 
2013-07-15 02:31:55 PM  

puckrock2000: /and even if you're a Python completist, feel free to skip How To Irritate People


I dunno, it's interesting to see early versions of some of the known Python skits.  And I haven't watched it since I was a teenager, but I remember laughing my ass off at the airplane sketch.
 
2013-07-15 02:46:30 PM  
sunsawed:

imageshack.us

Would like to point out that this will in fact be the LAST time he will appear in this thread.

No it isn't.
 
2013-07-15 03:03:25 PM  
John Cleese's response
Jump to 1m 01 seconds.
 
2013-07-15 03:10:03 PM  

LonMead: thefatbasturd: puckrock2000: thefatbasturd:
Actually getting a kick out of this. Don't have cable or an antenna in our new house so we have been watching "16 Ton Megaset" for a week. Finished it and "Life of Python" last night and am as I type watching "At Last the 1948 Show" to be followed by "Do Not Adjust Your Set". Will finish with "Almost The Truth: The Lawyer's Cut" and the movies.

Just a word of advice: DNAYS is incomplete (a lot of the episodes were wiped by Thames so that the videotapes could be reused), so what does exist is re-edited clips of the remaining shows. Also, despite what the packaging might say, none of Gilliam's animations for the show are on the DVDs.

/and even if you're a Python completist, feel free to skip How To Irritate People

Same with "1948"...

I kinda like "1948" (Four Yorkshiremen is pretty much the highlight). I include "The Secret Policemen's Other Ball"... think of it as Monty Python with excellent musical breaks between sketches.


Haven't seen "Secret Policemen's" in over 20 years. Need to get it and "Yellowbeard" to be "complete".

There are a lot of good bits in "1948" . Many could easily have been Python. And I am in love with "The Lovely Aimi MacDonald". She is like a British Laugh-In era Goldie Hawn. About to start DNAYS. Haven't ever had a chance to watch it. Love the Bonzos and just read that "Inspector Frost" is one of the cast members so am looking forward.
 
2013-07-15 03:53:12 PM  
Do you suppose Brave Sir Robin was based on him?
 
2013-07-15 04:07:48 PM  

BHShaman: His problem is NOT shooting down the assertion that he was the 7th Python. He should have always said, I AM NOT the fourth Python. I'm just their producer for Grail and entitled to 1/7th all proceeds as their producer. Letting people attribute him as the 7th muddles the waters and proposes more of his involvement than it was.

Egocentrics are also egocentric. Pythons "may" never have gotten as famous if MF has not gotten them their funding. But, since they did get famous they believe in their own destiny over his hard work. They should have just paid him his share. Guy billed at 1/7th and was paid for decades. Easy judgment.


From what I understand it was an off the cuff remark during the case where he said that financially he was like a seventh Python, which is technically correct. As producer he and the six Pythons all had a seventh share in the movie. He never claimed to be part of the team or to have written a sketch.

And for all that Cleese talks about how greed is bad in the video posted above here he is the one being greedy and trying to cheat this guy out of the share they all agreed to many years ago. They were happy with him having that share until the musical came about and suddenly there was real money at stake and only then they suddenly had a problem with his share...
 
2013-07-15 09:06:49 PM  

offmymeds: sunsawed:

[imageshack.us image 468x335]

Would like to point out that this will in fact be the LAST time he will appear in this thread.

No it isn't.


Who is that? he looks rather..........American.....
 
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