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(USA Today)   Motorcycle racer hits 285 mph. 285 mph hits back   (usatoday.com) divider line 218
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2013-07-15 12:27:34 AM  
meat crayon
 
2013-07-15 12:28:20 AM  

VTGremlin: Durboloid: It was exhilarating and terrifying simultaneously.

Pretty much the perfect way to describe doing 150+ on a bike. Once was enough for me, thanks.


You acclimate.  Once you get used to riding at high speed, it's really not as big a deal.  There have been a few times when I've ridden to and from the track instead of having my bike trailered, and going 90 on the highway home felt like I could have gotten off and walked faster.

DanTheMan1024: Yeah I always found it funny that cops tried to really crack down on riders with headphones...above 65 I could hear shiat anyway. Above 140 your hearing practically shuts down because your sight is taking so much in so quickly it can't process sounds as well


I wear really good Etymotic earplug headphones, and if I get tucked just right I can not only hear music at normal listening volume at over 100mph, but I can hear the valves of my ZX10 clicking behind that.
 
2013-07-15 12:28:25 AM  
It's funny how quickly you can get used to high speeds though.   Back when Montana had the "Reasonable and Prudent" law we (my irresponsible friends and myself) used to routinely drive over 100 mph.   Up until the point you hit the Idaho border, and the road construction limit of 45 mph.   100+ to 45 is quite the buzzkill.   Feels like you could walk faster.
 
2013-07-15 12:30:06 AM  
Get out of my head Z-Clipped, get out of my head.
 
2013-07-15 12:31:09 AM  
Racer dies at 285, blah blah, world speed record holder, yadda yadda, well respected in the field, yeah that happens, previously did 311mph in a mile.5 and trying to break 300 in only 1 mile.......

Holy gorram BALLS!!!!!

That, sir, is moving right the fark out, right the fark NOW. Respect.
 
2013-07-15 12:32:01 AM  

jst3p: GuidoDelConfuso: darch: Jesus. I get nervous at 70mph on my Street Glide. I can't even imagine what 290 must feel like.

Well yeah, but you're talking about a Harley cruiser. Nothing against Harleys, but the style and configuration of the bike really make a huge difference in how they feel at speed. I rode a Harley hard-tail chopper with forward controls once, and I was getting nervous taking it over 40, never mind 70. But I would regularly get my Triumph sport tourer up to 80 or 90 with no drama. It started getting a little squirrelly once you got towards a buck, and I never pushed it any higher than that, but even a stock Hayabusa or ZX-14 you could probably go substantially faster before you started getting to really pants-crapping speeds.

Anyway, 290 is pretty fast, but I suspect that after a certain point it just becomes a number. When you're on a perfectly straight closed track, and once you're going fast enough that you're likely to be killed if things go seriously wrong, what's the real difference between 200 and 290?

I just (a week ago) got my first bike. A ninja 500. I was at 80 before I knew it. It is funny how easy it is to creep up to a speed like that without noticing.


Wow, you prove my point even moreso! Keep yammering.
 
2013-07-15 12:32:01 AM  

Satanic_Hamster: quatchi: In the game of speed you win or you die.

In the world of kung-fu, speed defines the winner.



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2013-07-15 12:33:59 AM  

Durboloid: It's funny how quickly you can get used to high speeds though.   Back when Montana had the "Reasonable and Prudent" law we (my irresponsible friends and myself) used to routinely drive over 100 mph.   Up until the point you hit the Idaho border, and the road construction limit of 45 mph.   100+ to 45 is quite the buzzkill.   Feels like you could walk faster.


I can attest to that. Cruising 85mph for an hour scouting, waiting for the right moment, then 160 for a minute or two... 85 then felt like there was nothing more boring on the planet.
 
2013-07-15 12:35:54 AM  

Shadow Blasko: GuidoDelConfuso: Anyway, 290 is pretty fast, but I suspect that after a certain point it just becomes a number. When you're on a perfectly straight closed track, and once you're going fast enough that you're likely to be killed if things go seriously wrong, what's the real difference between 200 and 290?

About 4x the horsepower, and air that doesn't wanna get out of your way.


F = cv^2

The laws of physics are immutable, and not subject to appeal.
 
2013-07-15 12:36:22 AM  

Fuggin Bizzy: GuidoDelConfuso: what's the ... difference between 200 and 290?

90.

You're welcome.  I took some math in college. We studied the difference between 200 and 290.


One of the best smartass responses I have ever heard.
 
2013-07-15 12:37:24 AM  

Repo Man: It's amazing what a human can survive. And screw the haters, racers know it's dangerous. Just because what motivates them is different than what motivates you or I doesn't mean they are idiots.

Most of the Isle of Man footage is amazing.


what if an animal wandered on to the road? That could end his journey real quick now, couldn't it?
I liked the sound.
 
2013-07-15 12:40:39 AM  

Durboloid: It's funny how quickly you can get used to high speeds though.   Back when Montana had the "Reasonable and Prudent" law we (my irresponsible friends and myself) used to routinely drive over 100 mph.   Up until the point you hit the Idaho border, and the road construction limit of 45 mph.   100+ to 45 is quite the buzzkill.   Feels like you could walk faster.


I've been leaned waaaaay over at 100+ on highway 2 between Idaho and Glacier, passed cops going the other way, and didn't even get a blink.

Reasonable and Prudent may no longer be the law, but it's still the attitude in a lot of places.

/ I heart Montana
 
2013-07-15 12:43:05 AM  

ZeroCorpse: bmihura: puffy999: bmihura: Ever notice how the media always blames the vehicle when a crash happens? It's a subtle thing, but do notice.

FTA:

when it veered off the paved runway and crashed

not

when heveered off the paved runway and crashed

I was going to respond in a long-winded way, but I'll just say that it would behoove you to attend an English class. Focus on sentence structure and the definition of the word "blame."

You must be fun at parties!

I'd like to know why "being fun at parties" is a desirable trait. This must be an extrovert's idea of a positive trait. Maybe I don't WANT to be fun at parties. Maybe I don't even like parties... Did you ever think of that, huh? Parties kinda suck, after all: They're loud, they're full of stupid, drunk people all shouting "Woooo!", and they end up making a terrible mess in the host's home. Parties are for people who can't stand quiet reflection, intimate personal relationships with a few trusted friends, and decent conversations that don't require shouting over the "Oontz Oontz Oontz Oontz Oontz" music that blasts in every room.

Perhaps I'm the ANTI-party type, huh? Perhaps I'm the guy who calls the cops when other people have loud, obnoxious parties so I can go back to reading a book, writing, watching a movie, or making love with my woman. Perhaps I have absolutely NO intention of being "fun" at parties, and would much rather be a MENACE to parties.

Being fun at parties usually just means you're the king dipshiat in a room full of other drunken dipshiats. No thanks. Tell me "You must be fun at parties" with that ironic tone, and I'll tell you that being accused of being the bane of parties is a GOOD thing in my book.

Stick that in your funny hat and smoke it.

/Been to plenty of parties. Was lots of fun.
//My definition of "fun" involves either good conversation, or nudity (or both).


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2013-07-15 12:45:04 AM  
MY headline was MUCH funnier


/apparently not
 
2013-07-15 12:46:20 AM  

Outlawtsar: No Joe Walsh related headline? For shame...

[fc08.deviantart.net image 850x574]


My race bike goes 285.
I veered of the track and now I must die.
 
2013-07-15 12:48:25 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Warner was conscious and talking after the crash just before 10 a.m., Kelly said, but he died about an hour and 15 minutes later at a hospital in Caribou

Holy shiat, he lived for over an hour afterward. I figured he would've just disintegrated after a few hundred feet.


Hmm Mythbusters is running an episode tonight about whether bubblewrap will save you if you fall off a building

Maybe he didn't have enough on
 
2013-07-15 12:56:11 AM  
This is what my bike could do - on a track, with a better rider than me on it. I've very briefly had it up to an indicated 128. Crazy, but fun.
 
2013-07-15 12:59:33 AM  

Rent Party: I've been leaned waaaaay over at 100+ on highway 2 between Idaho and Glacier, passed cops going the other way, and didn't even get a blink.


That's because by the time they slow down, stop, turn around, and get moving in the other direction, you're already too far gone.  In fact, most cops won't bother chasing sport bikes at all, because they know they generally can't catch you if you don't want to be caught.  I blow by cops all the time... as long as you're going sufficiently fast (120+), they usually don't even bother turning their lights on.
 
2013-07-15 01:02:44 AM  

bmihura: jst3p: GuidoDelConfuso: darch: Jesus. I get nervous at 70mph on my Street Glide. I can't even imagine what 290 must feel like.

Well yeah, but you're talking about a Harley cruiser. Nothing against Harleys, but the style and configuration of the bike really make a huge difference in how they feel at speed. I rode a Harley hard-tail chopper with forward controls once, and I was getting nervous taking it over 40, never mind 70. But I would regularly get my Triumph sport tourer up to 80 or 90 with no drama. It started getting a little squirrelly once you got towards a buck, and I never pushed it any higher than that, but even a stock Hayabusa or ZX-14 you could probably go substantially faster before you started getting to really pants-crapping speeds.

Anyway, 290 is pretty fast, but I suspect that after a certain point it just becomes a number. When you're on a perfectly straight closed track, and once you're going fast enough that you're likely to be killed if things go seriously wrong, what's the real difference between 200 and 290?

I just (a week ago) got my first bike. A ninja 500. I was at 80 before I knew it. It is funny how easy it is to creep up to a speed like that without noticing.

Wow, you prove my point even moreso! Keep yammering.


Your point being what?
 
2013-07-15 01:05:07 AM  
Scariest bike Ive been on was an old Kawasaki Triple. Old cafe frame and manual drum brakes with an engine thats faster than most modern crotch rockets.
 
2013-07-15 01:05:42 AM  

Z-clipped: Rent Party: I've been leaned waaaaay over at 100+ on highway 2 between Idaho and Glacier, passed cops going the other way, and didn't even get a blink.

That's because by the time they slow down, stop, turn around, and get moving in the other direction, you're already too far gone.  In fact, most cops won't bother chasing sport bikes at all, because they know they generally can't catch you if you don't want to be caught.  I blow by cops all the time... as long as you're going sufficiently fast (120+), they usually don't even bother turning their lights on.


I can tell you, as a racer for almost three decades, you are a complete and udder asshole.  Sorry.  It's got nothing to do with your talent or the condition of your bike.  It has nothing to do with the fact that you are bad-ass and can handle it.

Guys like you playing Rossi-on-the-road kill other people.  A 'dumbass' who changes lanes into you, or loses a part of their poorly secured load, or a piece of road kill that wasnt there 20 minutes ago can - and does - throw bikes at people in cars and vans and suv's and kills them.

You clearly dont give a shiat about yourself, but we all give a shiat about other people.
 
2013-07-15 01:06:04 AM  

GuidoDelConfuso: darch: Jesus. I get nervous at 70mph on my Street Glide. I can't even imagine what 290 must feel like.

Well yeah, but you're talking about a Harley cruiser. Nothing against Harleys, but the style and configuration of the bike really make a huge difference in how they feel at speed. I rode a Harley hard-tail chopper with forward controls once, and I was getting nervous taking it over 40, never mind 70. But I would regularly get my Triumph sport tourer up to 80 or 90 with no drama. It started getting a little squirrelly once you got towards a buck, and I never pushed it any higher than that, but even a stock Hayabusa or ZX-14 you could probably go substantially faster before you started getting to really pants-crapping speeds.

Anyway, 290 is pretty fast, but I suspect that after a certain point it just becomes a number. When you're on a perfectly straight closed track, and once you're going fast enough that you're likely to be killed if things go seriously wrong, what's the real difference between 200 and 290?


I've had the speedo on my Ultra Glide hovering around the 150-160km/h mark for hours on end.  At that speed, it feels completely solid, relaxed, and firmly planted on the road. It is a surprisingly capable high speed tourer. So was my old Kawasaki Concours (the old GTR1000 version), it was quite comfortable at those speeds, but the front end would start moving around at anything much higher than that. Kind of like my DR650 does at speeds above 120km/h.  Heck, even my old CB400F felt fine at 90mp/h (it had the old imperial speedo).

I would never ride a hardtail of any type at highway speeds. I wouldn't even want to ride one at anything above a fast walking  speed. A friend of a friend is currently in a long recovery from brain injuries sustained when he hit a pothole at moderate speeds on his ancient TRW500. That was an old army bike dating from when truly functional rear suspension was only beginning to appear, but that anybody would choose to build a hardtail today is beyond me. They are a stupid idea at any speed.

Regarding the poor guy in TFA:  dustbin fairings are another bad idea. They do help with penetrating the wind at very high speeds, but they turn deadly in the presence of even the slightest crosswind. Over the years they have been responsible for the death of many record attemptees,
 
2013-07-15 01:06:25 AM  

baka-san: Eshy: farm9.staticflickr.com

My baby.

[i201.photobucket.com image 640x480]

Remember, doggie ears make you go faster.


Oh man, that was my first bike when i got my license 10 years ago. This one is built like a tank. Got rid of it earlier this year. Now, I ride a Yamaha XJR 1200, which is basically the same bike, but with 1200CC engine.
 
2013-07-15 01:07:10 AM  

mizchief: Outlawtsar: No Joe Walsh related headline? For shame...

[fc08.deviantart.net image 850x574]

My race bike goes 285.
I veered of the track and now I must die.


It's tough to handle this gravel and pain.
 
2013-07-15 01:10:05 AM  

Repo Man: This is what my bike could do - on a track, with a better rider than me on it. I've very briefly had it up to an indicated 128. Crazy, but fun.


You own a brand new 'Blade, and you've never been out of 3rd gear?  You need to get your ass to the track, son!
 
2013-07-15 01:14:28 AM  
Now I'm going to have to watch The World's Fastest Indian again. It had a happy ending, unlike this story.
 
2013-07-15 01:15:10 AM  

Oldiron_79: Scariest bike Ive been on was an old Kawasaki Triple. Old cafe frame and manual drum brakes with an engine thats faster than most modern crotch rockets.


Yup. I rode a later H1 500. The heart of a lion in a frame made of wet noodles.
At least, by then Kawasaki had fitted these with a hydraulic front disk.

/it only felt faster than modern bikes because it provided more opportunities for disaster per mile ridden.
 
2013-07-15 01:24:29 AM  

Z-clipped: Repo Man: This is what my bike could do - on a track, with a better rider than me on it. I've very briefly had it up to an indicated 128. Crazy, but fun.

You own a brand new 'Blade, and you've never been out of 3rd gear?  You need to get your ass to the track, son!


You know, that thing is so powerful, I really can't see hitting redline anywhere other than a track. I have noticed that the same old issue of peak horsepower vs. low RPM torque is noticeable compared to my old 2001 Bandit 1200. On really twisty back roads, the Bandit, with its larger displacement, and significantly less total horsepower, is easier to ride fast. The low RPM torque just pulls you through the corner, and makes it easy. But that's the only thing I like better about my old Bandit. The CBR feels as light as a 600 class, but once you rev that engine up, it's very clear that you are not on a 600. The light weight, the brakes, the suspension, it's all amazing. I have fun with it, but I'm old enough to be very wary of riding over my head.
 
2013-07-15 01:24:35 AM  
I thought the theory of relativity stated that the faster you go, the LONGER you live...
 
2013-07-15 01:36:27 AM  

scottydoesntknow: Holy shiat, he lived for over an hour afterward. I figured he would've just disintegrated after a few hundred feet.


And he was talking, so they say. I wonder if, by the time the crash became a crash, he wasn't going much slower than 285. I'd think if he actually hit the ground with a forward velocity of 285mph, the torque of the roll he'd go into would be enough to kill him all by itself.
 
2013-07-15 01:39:35 AM  
FTFA: Warner was conscious and talking after the crash just before 10 a.m., Kelly said, but he died about an hour and 15 minutes later at a hospital in Caribou.

He was complaining because the cold air was blowing into his shirt. His buddy had told him to turn his jacket around, so that the collar of the jacket would be at his neck. That way no air could get into his shirt. So that is what he did.

When the police arrived, they were doing a report. The police asked one of the witnesses if the man was deceased when they got to the scene. The witness replied, "He was still alive, but by the time we got his head turned around to where it was supposed to be, he was dead!
 
2013-07-15 01:40:22 AM  

TheBlackFlag: udder


Moooooo.

TheBlackFlag: You clearly dont give a shiat about yourself, but we all give a shiat about other people.


Really?  Then why are the majority of drivers I pass looking down at their smartphones instead of at the road?

Look, you're welcome to call me names if you want.  You're certainly not the first to do so, and I understand your motivation.  We all have our faults.  Mine happens to be that after 15 years of riding "safely" and putting my life into the hands of a bunch of nitwit drivers who couldn't care less whether I live or die, I finally got fed up and decided to take the initiative. 

At least now that I'm the fastest thing on the road, I only have to worry about the stupid shiat that happens in front of me.  Frankly, I feel much safer cutting traffic than trying in vain to carve out a place for myself in it among jerks who will never bother to notice me because they're safe behind steel and airbags.  Call me an asshole if you want, but don't try to pretend that anyone but a small minority really cares about what happens to motorcyclists once they get behind the wheel.
 
2013-07-15 01:49:17 AM  

Z-clipped: Mine happens to be that after 15 years of riding "safely" and putting my life into the hands of a bunch of nitwit drivers who couldn't care less whether I live or die, I finally got fed up and decided to take the initiative.


For a guy with "clipped" in his name, you sure are ballsy.
 
2013-07-15 01:49:38 AM  
"No one will touch Bill's achievements"

I hardly think dying should be considered an "Achievement" -Much smarter people do it with less effort everyday.
 
2013-07-15 01:55:21 AM  
25.media.tumblr.com
 
2013-07-15 01:57:57 AM  

ransack.: What did I miss?


Driver's Ed scare gross-out pic.
 
2013-07-15 02:04:23 AM  

staplermofo: For a guy with "clipped" in his name, you sure are ballsy.


I know, I know-  [we'vegotabaddassoverhere.jpg]

/my balls are kept safe in a jar on my wife's dresser
 
2013-07-15 02:20:25 AM  
The motorcycle:

bdnpull.bangorpublishing.netdna-cdn.com

media.onlinesentinel.com

Video of him hitting 290 in a mile last year (oddly underwhelming to me; it all seems the same above 100mph):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WcgHX1r2bcc&feature=player_embedded

He hit 311 mph on a 1.5 mile course in 2011.  He was attempting to exceed 300 in a mile in the fatal crash.
 
2013-07-15 02:24:41 AM  
Get busy living or get busy daying
Guess he did both.

www.telegraph.co.uk
 
2013-07-15 02:29:20 AM  

bmihura: Ever notice how the media always blames the vehicle when a crash happens? It's a subtle thing, but do notice.

FTA:

when it veered off the paved runway and crashed

not

when heveered off the paved runway and crashed


i believe ted kennedy started that one...

"the car drove off the bridge"
 
2013-07-15 02:38:52 AM  

Oldiron_79: Scariest bike Ive been on was an old Kawasaki Triple. Old cafe frame and manual drum brakes with an engine thats faster than most modern crotch rockets.


YES! My frame had to have gussets welded to the frame after I installed Dunstal reed valves, tune pipes, clutch, 34mm Mikunis, Wiesco pistons and bent a couple of drive sprockets. It would raise up at 5200rpms in 4th gear. Scary bike, but a lot of fun.
 
2013-07-15 02:43:28 AM  

Z-clipped: At least now that I'm the fastest thing on the road, I only have to worry about the stupid shiat that happens in front of me.  Frankly, I feel much safer cutting traffic than trying in vain to carve out a place for myself in it among jerks who will never bother to notice me because they're safe behind steel and airbags.  Call me an asshole if you want, but don't try to pretend that anyone but a small minority really cares about what happens to motorcyclists once they get behind the wheel.


I feel the same. 10 years I've had my license. I am a yellow-bellied coward on my bikes. I don't drive fast. I don't take unnecessary risks. But I lane-split like a mofo, and I do everything to not get in front or behind a car. And you know why ? Because every time I had an accident (small ones, no one hurt), it was because a car rear-ended me, or even once, backed down on me ! Cars don't see us, so the safest place is where they are not going. So that means, lane-splitting in heavy traffic, and getting the hell out of their reach everywhere else.

Anyway, I'm on my third bike now. My first was a Honda Seven-Fifty (75 HP). Built like a tank. A great everyday-rider. The second one (until it was stolen) was a VFR 750. This is by far the best bike I ever rode, and it had 95HP. My current one, the Yamaha XJR 1200 (yeah, I couldn't afford something more recent) is 98HP. And 98HP is more than I can handle.
I'd love to get my hand on a current VFR 1200, but then I learn that it has 170 horse powers, and I wonder, what's the point ? It's more than I can handle, and far, far more than is reasonnable on open roads. Frankly, I find the arm-race in power disconcerting. Can anybody really handle to the fullest, the 200-HP of the new VMax ? Or the 175 HP of an MV Agusta ?
 
2013-07-15 03:28:06 AM  
Farrrrkkkk yoouuuuu self playing videos.

/At least this one didn't start with an ad
//And there was a written article underneath
 
2013-07-15 03:31:54 AM  

padraig: The second one (until it was stolen) was a VFR 750.


Bro-fist! My old VFR, with custom exhaust moved to the left side to show off the pretty swingarm:

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padraig: I wonder, what's the point ?


It's fun to go fast?  Modern tech is making the newer bikes more powerful, but it's also making them easier to ride, and safer as well.  Traction control, ABS, wheelie control, electronic steering dampers, multi-setting ignition profiles, and the tire compounds... oh, man... high tech shiat. The computers are so fast and smart these days, you can toss the new BMWS100R over into an off-camber carousel and practically snap the throttle wide open without any danger of high-siding.  If I had $15K to burn, I'd get myself one tomorrow.
 
2013-07-15 03:38:31 AM  

Z-clipped: TheBlackFlag: udder

Moooooo.

TheBlackFlag: You clearly dont give a shiat about yourself, but we all give a shiat about other people.

Really?  Then why are the majority of drivers I pass looking down at their smartphones instead of at the road?

Look, you're welcome to call me names if you want.  You're certainly not the first to do so, and I understand your motivation.  We all have our faults.  Mine happens to be that after 15 years of riding "safely" and putting my life into the hands of a bunch of nitwit drivers who couldn't care less whether I live or die, I finally got fed up and decided to take the initiative. 

At least now that I'm the fastest thing on the road, I only have to worry about the stupid shiat that happens in front of me.  Frankly, I feel much safer cutting traffic than trying in vain to carve out a place for myself in it among jerks who will never bother to notice me because they're safe behind steel and airbags.  Call me an asshole if you want, but don't try to pretend that anyone but a small minority really cares about what happens to motorcyclists once they get behind the wheel.


You got the cow reference.   Which means you read it.

You must know that everything you said about your riding is rationalizing your behaviour.

You also know that you are not in control of your environment, and you acknowledge that most drivers out there are worst awful and at best distracted.

When that unattentive asshole that is texting his girlfriend while driving the wife and kids to Disneyland that is not expecting you to come up on him, and isnt looking for you anyway, changes lanes into you well past your ability to do anything about it and you or your bike gets thrown throw the windshield of an oncoming car, and you under it, a lot of people will be left to deal with consequences of your actions.

Riding like you know better and deserve to because the other people are worse than you is just selfish.

I have been a professional race car driver and have been for almost three decades.  I dont drive a fast car on the street anymore, and haven't for 15 years.

You are not in control of your situation and to think you are is delusional.   And selfish.
 
FNG [TotalFark]
2013-07-15 03:43:52 AM  
If riding bikes is your thing, good on ya. Just like anything else in life, don't be stupid about it.

There is a fine line between confidence and arrogance.
 
2013-07-15 03:48:52 AM  

Z-clipped: padraig: The second one (until it was stolen) was a VFR 750.

Bro-fist! My old VFR, with custom exhaust moved to the left side to show off the pretty swingarm:


***bro-fist***

Man, I'm missing my VFR... and putting the exhaust on the left truly is genious. But it was beginning to be costly to maintain, seeing as spart parts became very hard to come by (mine was probably stolen for parts). "Honda" probably means "hightway robbery" in Japanese. I was  quoted 1500 euros for a collector box.
 
2013-07-15 03:56:00 AM  
I wonder just what caused him to veer like he did, at any substantial speed motorcycle wheels start acting like gyroscopes, the attitude they're in is the one they want to stay in. At that point the motorcycle is basically balancing itself. It doesn't mention any wobbling, like there's been in other high speed run motorcycle crashes, where either something in the engine or drive train cause things to start to shake or the back wheeling sliding a bit under power caused the whole bike to wobble. And given the bike isn't going to have much in the way of steering, after all not like it needs to take a turn, doesn't seem likely it was steering related either.
 
2013-07-15 04:13:11 AM  

TheBlackFlag: Riding like you know better and deserve to because the other people are worse than you is just selfish.


It's not about "deserving".  It's about riding in the way I feel is safest for me.  Doing so means I happen to disregard traffic laws on occasion.  Don't pretend that there aren't laws you would happily violate if you could do so with impunity.  I have my reasons for riding the way I ride.  I understand that you don't like them.  I'm OK with that.  Your objection is noted.

TheBlackFlag: I have been a professional race car driver and have been for almost three decades. I dont drive a fast car on the street anymore, and haven't for 15 years.


Good for you.  When you ditch the roof, chassis, doors, seatbelts, airbags, and two of the wheels, you can lecture me with a little more credibility.  Maybe one day you'll read about me smeared all over the highway because I hit a dead squirrel at 170mph, and feel even more self-satisifed than you do today.  Or maybe, you'll read that I was putt-putting along at 55mph in the far right lane, and I got rear-ended and killed by some soccer-mom in an SUV who was texting her BFF Jill.  If you were me, which one of these would you prefer?

TheBlackFlag: You are not in control of your situation and to think you are is delusional. And selfish.


I'm about done with this conversation, because nobody else really wants to read this crap in a Fark thread, but I'll say one more thing:

I understand the factors involved in riding a motorcycle on the street, and I manage my own risk. I present far less of a danger to other drivers speeding and cutting traffic than they do to me (and each other) when they drive inattentively.  My bike at 170mph has roughly the same kinetic energy as the average car does at 60mph.  Am I being selfish?  Perhaps, but no more than most anyone else on the road.  The difference is, at least I'm paying attention to what I'm doing.

Have a nice day.
 
2013-07-15 04:26:41 AM  

Z-clipped: nobody else really wants to read this crap in a Fark thread,


Hey man, I want to read it.
*eye contact*
 
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