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(HitFix)   The fifteen most useless sequels of all time. Missing from the list: The last two Matrix films and Star Trek: First Contact   (hitfix.com) divider line 29
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2013-07-14 05:26:13 PM
10 votes:
First Contact? Troll harder subtard.
2013-07-14 06:10:45 PM
2 votes:
fark YOU SUBBY!  Star Trek: First Contact was a great Trek film!

I'm not kidding, I really liked that movie.  Subby can EABOD.
2013-07-14 05:21:10 PM
2 votes:
Caine famously quipped, "I have never seen it, but by all accounts it is terrible. However, I have seen the house that it built, and it is terrific!

I love that quote.
2013-07-16 07:02:16 AM
1 votes:

karmachameleon: Compare that to, say, the explanation of how Neo "freed" Agent Smith. Funny, upon watching the first movie I'd be strongly tempted to use the word "destroyed", not "freed". ;-)


He wasn't "destroyed" he was moved to the Recycle Bin.  He was supposed to stay there until it was emptied, but he escaped ro wreak havoc on the system, and began overwriting other files on the system with copies of himself.  He has a virus, the very label he so scornfully applied to humanity in the first film.
2013-07-15 06:15:06 PM
1 votes:
thatguyoverthere70:

What would be a challenge (and more interesting) would be to come up with a list of sequels that should have been useless but turned out to be not terrible, good, or even better than the original.

There are a number of good sequels of course, but good sequels that by all accounts should have sucked?  Hmm...

An American Tail: Feivel Goes West - It's a running joke that sequels to Disney movies are useless and unnecessary, but sequels to Don Bluth movies, which have never actually involved Don Bluth, are even worse.  Cases in point: The Secret of NIMH 2 and the umpteen zillion continuations of The Land before Time.  The one exception: Feivel Goes West.  Not only does the movie present an entertaining new chapter in the story of Feivel and his family, it wraps that chapter around a subtle history lesson of the U.S.A's growth and expansion (even if the lessons are perhaps a bit out of order, since the push westward mostly happened before the Statue of Liberty's unveiling).  Granted, it's still not as good as the first movie, and it gets downright silly in places, but hey, John Cleese as a shifty real estate feline.  What more can you ask for?

Every Fast and Furious sequel after Tokyo Drift.  The first movie delivered what it promised, fast cars and eye candy, and very little else.  The next two sequels continued the trend, with typical diminishing returns, and nobody expected otherwise from the fourth.  But then, Fast and Furious got good.  Fast Five got even better!  Now we're six movies out and the franchise continues to surprise and impress.

Marvel's The Avengers - Okay, okay, put down the guns and turn off the nerd rage.  I'm not actually saying anybody expected The Avengers to suck.  However, after Edward Norton was ousted because of producer meddling, it was easy to believe the Hulk would be the least interesting part of the ensemble.  Instead, we're all now saying, "Edward who?"  I almost hate to admit someone did a better job with a character than Norton, a man very obviously passionate about his work, but Mark Ruffalo really Hulk-smashed it out of the park.
2013-07-15 04:28:57 PM
1 votes:

ZeroCorpse: ALL the old Star Trek movies after Star Trek IV were crappy and hokey. Star Trek IV is also hokey, but it at least has a somewhat fun script. Every single Next Generation movie is cheesy as hell. The later OT crew movies were comedies, not scifi.

People who complain about the Trek reboot need to be reminded of the action-comedy travesties that were the last five pre-reboot Trek films.


I gotta disagree with you on ST6 and First Contact.  The others?  Yeah, they weren't that great.
2013-07-15 04:28:00 PM
1 votes:

blue_2501: First Contact?  Now you're just trolling.  Granted, the TNG movies weren't epic, but this was one of the better ones.  (ST6 is still the best one.)


This; ST6 was a helluva way for the cast of the original to go out.
2013-07-15 03:56:24 PM
1 votes:

mechgreg: Jim from Saint Paul: Well Temple of Doom has more bullshiat then TCS, so that's fair. i am not telling people to stop liking what I don;t like, I am saying "If you think the fridge was rediculous, A GUY GETS HIS HEART PULLED OUT OF HIS CHEST AND LOOKS AT IN HORROR FOR A WHILE BEFORE HE DIES in that frickin movie".

/dont get me started on the "fall hundreds of feet land on a raft and go down a mountain scene
//Good lord
///TCS does not have a monopoly on rediculously stupid scenes in that series

I think Roger Ebert said somewhere on his website that the first 3 Indy movies had the advantage in that they came first. I mean if Crystal Skull had come out in 1984 and Temple of Doom in 2008, and cast them accordingly, people would probably look back at CS fondly while people would be biatching non-stop online about The Temple of Doom and the life raft, and the heart ripping, and whatever hollywood kid they got to play Short Round and whatever actress they got to play Willie. Not to mention all the racist stereotypes.


I completely agree with you, and Ebert, more or less.

You really can't go home again.  Doing a sequel 20 years later and trying to recapture the original feel is impossible.  People want more of what they love, but even if you make a carbon copy you and the world you've lived in have changed, so the movie isn't the same.

That said, TCS had some egregious Lucas-isms: unnecessary CGI shiat, like animals, competiting for visual interest, pointless inclusion of callbacks like Marion, and a general dumbing down.  Fridge logic and silly adventure plot physics are FINE when the movie is GOOD.  TCS just had a weak core, rotted from self consciousness.

People will excuse plot holes and unrealistic things, as long as the movie's core and spirit are intact and its a good film.  Excessively realistic movies with accurate Newtonian physics can be interesting, but you can create even more interesting things by subtly breaking them!  The audience will forgive you if you make a good movie.
2013-07-15 01:05:42 PM
1 votes:

Jim from Saint Paul: Well Temple of Doom has more bullshiat then TCS, so that's fair. i am not telling people to stop liking what I don;t like, I am saying "If you think the fridge was rediculous, A GUY GETS HIS HEART PULLED OUT OF HIS CHEST AND LOOKS AT IN HORROR FOR A WHILE BEFORE HE DIES in that frickin movie".

/dont get me started on the "fall hundreds of feet land on a raft and go down a mountain scene
//Good lord
///TCS does not have a monopoly on rediculously stupid scenes in that series


I think Roger Ebert said somewhere on his website that the first 3 Indy movies had the advantage in that they came first. I mean if Crystal Skull had come out in 1984 and Temple of Doom in 2008, and cast them accordingly, people would probably look back at CS fondly while people would be biatching non-stop online about The Temple of Doom and the life raft, and the heart ripping, and whatever hollywood kid they got to play Short Round and whatever actress they got to play Willie. Not to mention all the racist stereotypes.
2013-07-15 11:46:10 AM
1 votes:

blue_2501: The TFA's list seems to be spot on.  Some of these comments are not:

The Matrix Reloaded was a badass movie with some of the best action ever.  (Still has the best car chase scene of any movie.)  Was parts of it kinda corny?  Maybe.  Revolutions was pretty disappointing, especially the further it went along.  (First 30 minutes wasn't bad.)

First Contact?  Now you're just trolling.  Granted, the TNG movies weren't epic, but this was one of the better ones.  (ST6 is still the best one.)

Gremlins 2?  This is just proof that you haven't seen it.  Awesome movie.

Ghostbusters 2?  Was it better than Ghostbusters?  No, but it's hard to reach that high.  It was still a good movie, though.

Tron: Legacy?  Olivia Wilde, cool special effects, great soundtrack, good story, oh, and Olivia Wilde.  Also, the original Tron has not aged well.


Ronin respectfully disagrees with your claim that Matrix Reloaded had the best car chase scene, wants to know the color of the boathouse in Hereford is.
2013-07-15 10:01:39 AM
1 votes:

BravadoGT: Highlander 2
Predator 2


What is this "Highlander 2" you speak of? You must have dreamed that, because there is no such thing. Highlander ended in such a way that a sequel was pretty much impossible, so even an attempted sequel would have been  insipid, poorly thought out, contradictory, and just plain stupid.  Hell, it likely would have been so bad that even thinking about it would cause fans of the original movie to have a traumatic brain injury, resulting in loss of memory to protect their brains from further damage.
2013-07-15 01:24:04 AM
1 votes:
ALL the old Star Trek movies after Star Trek IV were crappy and hokey. Star Trek IV is also hokey, but it at least has a somewhat fun script. Every single Next Generation movie is cheesy as hell. The later OT crew movies were comedies, not scifi.

People who complain about the Trek reboot need to be reminded of the action-comedy travesties that were the last five pre-reboot Trek films.
2013-07-14 11:32:27 PM
1 votes:

CraicBaby: Let's also add Cars 2 to the list. It was totally unnecessary.


As a very minor owner of Disney stock, I have to disagree.
2013-07-14 11:25:31 PM
1 votes:

TheManofPA: What other Matrix film?


Pretending films don't exist is so 2002.

Now we have Rifftrax.
2013-07-14 09:59:09 PM
1 votes:
Blues Brothers was a horrible movie that's only redeemed by people who like the music in it. It's a stupid plot with some stupid gags surrounding a basic flaw. But somehow it's a classic, so of course they made a sequelish second movie. They probably would have done the sequel in the 80's if the wrong Belushi hadn't died.

At least the world has forgotten the whole Revenge of the Nerds franchise. Probably because the nerds won reality.
2013-07-14 09:56:09 PM
1 votes:

thatguyoverthere70: What would be a challenge (and more interesting) would be to come up with a list of sequels that should have been useless but turned out to be not terrible, good, or even better than the original.


Personally, I loved Short Circuit 2.
2013-07-14 09:53:19 PM
1 votes:

velvet_fog: It Runs in the Family (sequel to A Christmas Story)


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WHY???


quatchi: 8. I Still Know What You Did Last Summer.


Shouldn't that title be "I Still Know What You Did Summer Before Last"?
2013-07-14 09:49:29 PM
1 votes:
Blues Brothers 2000 may have been a rehash of the first movie's plot, as well as missing Belushi and adding an annoying kid, but it still has some high points. There is still a great collection of musicians on display throughout the film and an excellent soundtrack.
2013-07-14 09:46:14 PM
1 votes:
Matrix reloaded has like a 75 on rt and is by no means a bad movie. Anyone who says is is bad as an absolute is a farking idiot.
2013-07-14 09:35:49 PM
1 votes:

velvet_fog: I think some Farkers are confusing what they think is a 'bad' sequel with what was an 'unnecessary' sequel. Superman III and IV were awful movies, but each film that preceded it was a huge hit - why wouldn't you add another sequel? Same goes with Batman & Robin. Even Blair Witch 2, to a lesser extent. Just because it was horribly executed doesn't mean it was unnecessary. I think an exception is the Jaws series, where Jaws 2 and on were totally unnecessary.

To the list, I'd add: Jaws 2, Jaws 3-D, Gremlins 2, Ghostbusters 2, Analyze That, Dirty Dancing: Havana Nights, It Runs in the Family (sequel to A Christmas Story)


NO. G2 was FAR better than the first movie. And not just  better, actually  fun.

/Seriously
2013-07-14 09:31:41 PM
1 votes:

jake_lex: You gotta put The Godfather Part III on this list.  It's actually not as terrible as people say it is, but it is completely and utterly useless, because the first two tell such a perfect story and finish the story of Michael Corelone in the most important way.  At the end of Part I, Michael becomes Don Corleone, and at the end of Part II, it becomes clear that his promises to Kay notwithstanding, he will never become legitimate and he will always be Don Corleone.

Then comes Part III and a lot of nonsense about whacking the Pope or whatever the hell happened in that movie.


Part III would have been so good if only they'd finished the arc like they were going to (or so the legend goes), which was to have the final showdown between Michael and Tom Hagen. But they didn't want to pay Robert Duvall what he was obviously worth, so he wouldn't be in the movie; and instead we got the awful mishmash that led to there being a Godfather IV: Electric Boogaloo II.
2013-07-14 09:24:59 PM
1 votes:
Hi guyz, what's going on in this thread?

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2013-07-14 09:06:54 PM
1 votes:
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2013-07-14 09:00:35 PM
1 votes:
Hey! U.S. Marshals rocked. Extra points for having Downey as the heavy.
2013-07-14 08:22:35 PM
1 votes:

The English Major: Lsherm: fark YOU SUBBY! Star Trek: First Contact was a great Trek film!

The Borg are terrible villains. The one saving grace of First Contact was Stewart's speech and James Cromwell.


It's better than Generations, Insurrection and Nemesis.

The English Major: /will never understand the hate for slideshows


The only ones I TRULY hate are the ones where it wants to reload the ENTIRE page between slides.
2013-07-14 07:57:02 PM
1 votes:
I LIKED FIRST CONTACT
2013-07-14 06:47:45 PM
1 votes:
For those who don't do slideshows list is as follows...

1. Basic Instinct II
2. Blues Brothers 2000
3. Blair Witch 2
4. Bridget Jones: The Edge of Reason
5 Caddyshack II
6. Crocodile Dundee in LA
7. Dumb and Dumberer.
8. I Still Know What You Did Last Summer.
9. Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull.
10. Jaws: The Revenge.
11. Scary Movie 2
12. Son of The Mask
13. Speed 2
14. US Marshals.
15. The Whole Ten Yards.
2013-07-14 06:17:41 PM
1 votes:
first contact was a great film.
2013-07-14 06:14:59 PM
1 votes:

Lsherm: fark YOU SUBBY!  Star Trek: First Contact was a great Trek film!

I'm not kidding, I really liked that movie.  Subby can EABOD.


It was easily the best of the Next Generation cast movies.
 
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