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(Brooklyn Heights Blog)   NY Daily News does a piece about bartenders who pack baseball bats aka the "guns of the Stone Age" behind their bars. One bar owner, who played narc Gaetano Caiozzo on Boardwalk Empire, strongly disagrees   (brooklynheightsblog.com ) divider line
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2013-07-14 10:55:12 PM  
4 votes:

gilatrout: albuquerquehalsey: Mentat: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

What about thrusting swords?

A.K.A. Knives

What if they come running at you with a pointed stick?


Pointed stick? Oh, oh, oh. We want to learn how to defend ourselves against pointed sticks, do we? Getting all high and mighty, eh?  Fresh fruit not good enough for you eh? Well I'll tell you something my lad. When you're walking home tonight and some homicidal maniac comes after you with a bunch of loganberries, don't come crying to me!
2013-07-14 11:40:33 PM  
2 votes:

tjsands1118: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

Pirates found the same problem, that why they switch to short swords, cutlasses, and daggers. Also a short to medium length katana kept at a razors edge can do a lot of damage with very little to no back swing, as katanas you use like a knife in a slicing motion. One could also argue a rapier is also used in a thrusting/stabbing action which requires no back swing, but they do tend to be longer and could be difficult to draw from a completely horizontal position behind a bar.


Pirates don't know how to use bats?

This explains SO MUCH!
2013-07-14 08:56:16 PM  
2 votes:
I worked at a nightclub, bats and such were a big definite no. One of our bartenders would keep a bar towel rolled tightly and soaked in water in the freezer. He called it his slapsicle.
2013-07-14 08:32:11 PM  
2 votes:

redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

So true.  This would be my first choice for behind-the-bar security:

[static.giantbomb.com image 640x549]

Eh bad idea. Spread on a SBS would likely hit innocent bystanders unless your bar is only filled with bad guys. Better to get a handgun, small caliber or not.


You know, the safety of my patrons never entered my mind.  I'd probably suck at owning a bar.
2013-07-14 11:48:39 PM  
1 vote:

Heathen: HotWingAgenda: Heathen: every time my buddy and I go to a new bar (sometimes old) his question 20 seconds in is, "close your eyes, where are the exits"

Which three letter organization does he work for?

worked, and won't say


Rule #1  - Cardio
2013-07-14 11:37:57 PM  
1 vote:

HotWingAgenda: Heathen: every time my buddy and I go to a new bar (sometimes old) his question 20 seconds in is, "close your eyes, where are the exits"

Which three letter organization does he work for?


NAMBLA is more than 3 letters.
2013-07-14 10:34:53 PM  
1 vote:

redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

So true.  This would be my first choice for behind-the-bar security:

[static.giantbomb.com image 640x549]

Eh bad idea. Spread on a SBS would likely hit innocent bystanders unless your bar is only filled with bad guys. Better to get a handgun, small caliber or not.

You know, the safety of my patrons never entered my mind.  I'd probably suck at owning a bar.

Not gonna lie, if you have to bust out the SBS to break up a bar fight, there might not be too many innocent patrons. I'd rather have a handgun because you have more rounds and it's smaller with less recoil, but that is just me.

/BLAM BLAM

Oh, I wouldn't get all buckshotty on a bar fight.  I was envisioning a robbery scenario where I cower on the floor like a little girl to distract/disgust the would-be robber while I secretly retrieve the belly buster.  Firing from that angle would minimize collateral damage from the over-penetration, but cleanup on the ceiling would be a b*tch.

Oh in that case he was asking for it. I'm sure insurance would cover the ceiling. Worse comes to worse, just make a barback or busboy wipe it down with bleach water and paint over it. $100 at most.


Leave the bloodstains and name a shot after the robber, imo.
2013-07-14 10:30:38 PM  
1 vote:

bmfderek: Bslim: staplermofo: FTFA: I've just given someone a weapon.

Has this guy never seen a movie with a bar fight?  Bottles, pool cues and bar stools all the way.  Some guy gets tossed through a hanging light and another into a pinball machine.  Then the barkeep wipes the bar, takes the money the good guy throws on the counter and pours another drink.  Sheesh, everybody knows that.

You forgot the part where the barkeep breaks a bottle over somebody's head.

Isn't the bartender supposed to light a match, drop it onto some spilled liquor, and watch as the flame runs down the bar to ignite the bad guy?


Nah, that's for the antihero to do when the bar is owned by the villain and staffed by bad guys.
   "I just wanted to talk this out, but you guys wouldn't listen"
2013-07-14 10:17:00 PM  
1 vote:

Bslim: staplermofo: FTFA: I've just given someone a weapon.

Has this guy never seen a movie with a bar fight?  Bottles, pool cues and bar stools all the way.  Some guy gets tossed through a hanging light and another into a pinball machine.  Then the barkeep wipes the bar, takes the money the good guy throws on the counter and pours another drink.  Sheesh, everybody knows that.

You forgot the part where the barkeep breaks a bottle over somebody's head.


Isn't the bartender supposed to light a match, drop it onto some spilled liquor, and watch as the flame runs down the bar to ignite the bad guy?
2013-07-14 10:15:24 PM  
1 vote:

gilatrout: albuquerquehalsey: Mentat: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

What about thrusting swords?

A.K.A. Knives

What if they come running at you with a pointed stick?


Then you need a tiger and a 16-ton weight.
2013-07-14 10:11:54 PM  
1 vote:

dittybopper: Technically, the gun of the Stone Age would be the atlatl and dart.


Good luck swinging one of those behind a bar, though.
2013-07-14 10:05:43 PM  
1 vote:
Technically, the gun of the Stone Age would be the atlatl and dart.
2013-07-14 09:46:04 PM  
1 vote:

hasty ambush: "If one of my bartenders is a 5-foot-4 woman and some guy takes it from her, I've just given someone a weapon. The best defense for a bartender to have is the bar itself. It's a barrier."

Rule one do not have a 5' 4" bartenderess if your clientele tend to need to be keep in line with a baseball bat.


Rule Two, let's set up completely fake criteria to justify our position.

"If one of my bartenders is a 5-foot-4 woman who is also a deaf quadriplegic with ADD, ah I forget the point that I was trying to make".
2013-07-14 09:13:11 PM  
1 vote:
If the bar is such a good barrier that it prevents a "bad guy" from harming the bartender, does it not also follow that it would prevent the bad guy from taking the gun?

We get it. You're scared.
2013-07-14 09:07:28 PM  
1 vote:
Notice to all would-be burglars, ne'er do wells, and houligans:   Atlantic Avenue's Roebling Inn's bartenders are completely unarmed.  They should have included a Google map.  Most people in those categories don't have GPS.
2013-07-14 09:07:13 PM  
1 vote:

Mentat: albuquerquehalsey: Mentat: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

What about thrusting swords?

A.K.A. Knives

Knives won't reach across a bar.


Which is why you duct tape them to brooms.
2013-07-14 08:57:52 PM  
1 vote:

Psycoholic_Slag: redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

So true.  This would be my first choice for behind-the-bar security:

[static.giantbomb.com image 640x549]

Eh bad idea. Spread on a SBS would likely hit innocent bystanders unless your bar is only filled with bad guys. Better to get a handgun, small caliber or not.

You know, the safety of my patrons never entered my mind.  I'd probably suck at owning a bar.

Not gonna lie, if you have to bust out the SBS to break up a bar fight, there might not be too many innocent patrons. I'd rather have a handgun because you have more rounds and it's smaller with less recoil, but that is just me.

/BLAM BLAM

Oh, I wouldn't get all buckshotty on a bar fight.  I was envisioning a robbery scenario where I cower on the floor like a little girl to distract/disgust the would-be robber while I secretly retrieve the belly buster.  Firing from that angle would minimize collateral damage from the over-penetration, but cleanup on the ceiling would be a b*tch.


Oh in that case he was asking for it. I'm sure insurance would cover the ceiling. Worse comes to worse, just make a barback or busboy wipe it down with bleach water and paint over it. $100 at most.
2013-07-14 08:49:15 PM  
1 vote:

redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: redmid17: Psycoholic_Slag: wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.

So true.  This would be my first choice for behind-the-bar security:

[static.giantbomb.com image 640x549]

Eh bad idea. Spread on a SBS would likely hit innocent bystanders unless your bar is only filled with bad guys. Better to get a handgun, small caliber or not.

You know, the safety of my patrons never entered my mind.  I'd probably suck at owning a bar.

Not gonna lie, if you have to bust out the SBS to break up a bar fight, there might not be too many innocent patrons. I'd rather have a handgun because you have more rounds and it's smaller with less recoil, but that is just me.

/BLAM BLAM


Oh, I wouldn't get all buckshotty on a bar fight.  I was envisioning a robbery scenario where I cower on the floor like a little girl to distract/disgust the would-be robber while I secretly retrieve the belly buster.  Firing from that angle would minimize collateral damage from the over-penetration, but cleanup on the ceiling would be a b*tch.
2013-07-14 08:45:03 PM  
1 vote:

PainfulItching: 6D cell Maglite flashlight.. Functional behind a dark bar. A baseball bat can be considered a weapon, unless is signed and mounted on the wall as part of the "decor". This is from when I was working in Texas and no weapons were permitted in any establishment that sold alcohol (including convenience stores). A longneck beer bottle could do in a pinch, but give me a 3 or 4 pound, essentially shortened Little League aluminum bat, and I could make that work.


those things are awesome. my buddies dad who was a cop always carried that instead of his nightstick (which he gave to his son to go hit things with- thanks rural police department rules!) it was useful and he could beat some crack head with it, after the K9 was done with the mauling
2013-07-14 08:37:54 PM  
1 vote:
I always thought that the bottle of Galliano was the weapon of choice for bartenders.

Every bar has a bottle, but no one drinks the stuff...
2013-07-14 08:33:07 PM  
1 vote:

wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.


True. Better to have a pair of sai tucked into the back of your waistband.
2013-07-14 08:31:44 PM  
1 vote:
csb: I was prosecuted in southern California as a young man for felony hidden weapon possession for my basebal bat in my (baseball) bag (along with glove and clothes). Hard charging prosecutor only dropped it at the last second before going to trial. What a dick- knew full well I was coming back from a game...

/notices none of my csb stories are really cool- mostly frustrating
2013-07-14 08:30:58 PM  
1 vote:

thamike: They played baseball in the Stone Age?


No one knows.
2013-07-14 08:29:54 PM  
1 vote:
If the mafia kills you with a bat,They say you died of Lou Gehrigs Disease.

/no such thing
2013-07-14 08:26:39 PM  
1 vote:

wildcardjack: Bats, like swords, require too much backswing to make an effective weapon in a tight space.


So true.  This would be my first choice for behind-the-bar security:

static.giantbomb.com
2013-07-14 08:24:10 PM  
1 vote:
www.ncwcom.com

?
2013-07-14 08:23:06 PM  
1 vote:

staplermofo: FTFA: I've just given someone a weapon.

Has this guy never seen a movie with a bar fight?  Bottles, pool cues and bar stools all the way.  Some guy gets tossed through a hanging light and another into a pinball machine.  Then the barkeep wipes the bar, takes the money the good guy throws on the counter and pours another drink.  Sheesh, everybody knows that.


Everyone knows this. Thats day 1 in bartender school.
2013-07-14 07:23:33 PM  
1 vote:

rumpelstiltskin: thamike: They played baseball in the Stone Age?

[photos1.blogger.com image 400x326]

Yes.


www.wired.com

"You know that the Flinstones is only partly based on fact?"
2013-07-14 05:37:10 PM  
1 vote:
FTFA: I've just given someone a weapon.

Has this guy never seen a movie with a bar fight?  Bottles, pool cues and bar stools all the way.  Some guy gets tossed through a hanging light and another into a pinball machine.  Then the barkeep wipes the bar, takes the money the good guy throws on the counter and pours another drink.  Sheesh, everybody knows that.
 
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