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2013-07-14 04:38:22 PM

Carth: There is no way to tell who started the physical altercation but the jury decided there wasn't enough evidence to say it was Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt.


That sums it up.  My impression is that they both made poor choices that night.  Martin's luck turned out worse than Zimmerman's.
 
2013-07-14 04:38:29 PM

ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday.


Yeah, and an assload of it just showed up.

Tell me, would any of this had happened had Zimmerman simply stayed in his truck and waited for the police, whom he had called and were on their way?
We have neighborhood watch where I live, and that is what they do. They carry no weapons. They have a flashlight and a cellphone. They are simply living smart cameras that watch what goes on in the neighborhood, hence the name "neighborhood watch". They do not confront, they do not question, and most of all, they do not attempt to apprehend. They observe and report, that is all.

Would it have been that difficult for this two time police department reject and robocop wannabe to do just that? Wait in the truck for the cops? That's where the stupid is, and your choice to defend this waste of human skin says much about you.
 
2013-07-14 04:39:23 PM
He was found not guilty, so leave it be. I cannot see why those who criticized Zimmerman for being a vigilante would approve of vigilante justice being applied to him. He can walk in public and while people may not like him, they cannot legally attack him. If they do, he can defend himself with up to lethal force if necessary.
 
2013-07-14 04:39:43 PM
With any luck, the next 'suspicious character' this guy decides to stalk will also be armed.
 
2013-07-14 04:39:59 PM

Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder what would happen if he made the mistake of walking at night, and someone else took a gun, called the cops, followed him against police instruction, picked a fight, got their ass kicked, and shot him.

Not that it would happen - Zimmerman, despite his self-perception, could never kick anyone's ass.


That's just the crux of it though. Once he was getting his ass beat, he was completely within the right of self defense to shoot TM.
 
2013-07-14 04:40:05 PM
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Ask yourself:  What other job can this man possibly get?

OJ was a mega-rich actor.  This guy.... yeah.

/ Oh wait, he doesn't need a job anymore.  Bidding for the first "Your Side of the Story" interview is currently at 75 MILLION.
 
2013-07-14 04:40:52 PM

kxs401: Live by the sword, die by the sword.


This may be the most intelligent and clever response to any news story I've ever read on fark.

I love you.
 
2013-07-14 04:40:58 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: I don't trust a 29 year old who looks 45 and thinks he's the neighborhood rentacop.


I heard he illegally smuggles 3d printers. Definitely an unsavory character.
 
2013-07-14 04:41:17 PM

Carth: Representative of the unwashed masses: SevenizGud: Here is Trayvon Martin in his natural habitat, displaying his normal philosophy towards others. In short, his philosophy is fark YOU. And he's saying it to YOU. fark YOU. YOU! fark YOU!

Now please...apologize for him. Go on...you know you can do it. Apologize for the little drug-addled, tattooed, fark you-gesturing thug. Do it. You know you can't keep from apologizing for him. Apologize for him. Do it! Do it now!

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easy, the kid was carrying only skittles and iced tea, he was doing nothing illegal when Zimmerman decided to follow him resulting in the altercation.  he was no alter boy but he didn't deserve to die.

Following someone isn't illegal in FL. There is no way to tell who started the physical altercation but the jury decided there wasn't enough evidence to say it was Zimmerman beyond a reasonable doubt.


true that may be but the spate of pictures intending to paint the kid as a lowlife is spitting in his families face. that's what I find disgusting.  Zimmerman may not have broken the law but he made the first of many bad decisions that led to Matrin's death.
 
2013-07-14 04:41:20 PM
As a lifelong fan of irony I appreciate the fact that the man who stalked a young black man to death (essentially by initiating a series of events that led to an assault and self defense shooting) will now have to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.

I get that, It works for me.

That carefully noted, in summing this thing up here Zimmerman's life as he knew it is over, Trayvon's life is over, period, and racial tensions have been heightened yet again. It's a lose/lose./lose thing.  So much fail to consider here.
 
2013-07-14 04:41:22 PM

PsiChick: Oh, look, I have a complete and utter lack of sympathy. This, children, is what happens when you ignore basic firearm safety, a 911 dispatcher, and the little voice in the back of your head that tells you that, no, arresting people is a job for the  police, not you.You are not in a movie, and if you play maverick expect it to backfire spectacularly.


Yeah... my take is live by the gun, die by the gun. If this sort of shiat flies as normal and acceptable behavior, then it's to be expected that more of the same will come around.
 
2013-07-14 04:41:36 PM
Zim has a CCW and knows how to use a weapon. I hope somebody goes after him and he busts a few more caps in self defense.
 
2013-07-14 04:42:13 PM

ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday. The inability for some of you to actually review the evidence is astounding. Hopefully if you ever have someone beating the shiat out of you and smashing your head into the sidewalk you won't bother protecting your life if you have the ability.


I'm not stupid enough to follow around "suspicious" youths pretending to be a rent a cop. Zimmerman was in the wrong for starting the confrontation.

Using your logic can I pick a fight with a random person on the street and then shoot them when they start winning the fight. Never mind that I started the fight. Because that is pretty much what happened.
 
2013-07-14 04:42:16 PM

Sofa_king_kewl: This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous  liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.


And inundated with rednecks.
 
2013-07-14 04:42:23 PM

Quantum Apostrophe: I don't trust a 29 year old who looks 45 and thinks he's the neighborhood rentacop.


What about the 45 year old who looks 29?
 
2013-07-14 04:42:44 PM

rewind2846: ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday.

Yeah, and an assload of it just showed up.

Tell me, would any of this had happened had Zimmerman simply stayed in his truck and waited for the police, whom he had called and were on their way?
We have neighborhood watch where I live, and that is what they do. They carry no weapons. They have a flashlight and a cellphone. They are simply living smart cameras that watch what goes on in the neighborhood, hence the name "neighborhood watch". They do not confront, they do not question, and most of all, they do not attempt to apprehend. They observe and report, that is all.

Would it have been that difficult for this two time police department reject and robocop wannabe to do just that? Wait in the truck for the cops? That's where the stupid is, and your choice to defend this waste of human skin says much about you.


But black kids are dangerous.  Someone had to take a stand against.. uh.. them walking at night.
 
2013-07-14 04:42:58 PM

Mr. Breeze: rewind2846:
Should have thought about that before he decided to play judge, jury and executioner.

I didn't know executioners did their job lying on their backs while getting beaten by the convict.


You haven't read my french revolution fanfic
 
2013-07-14 04:43:02 PM
I see this thread has brought out the ugly side of Fark.

Clamoring for mob justice against a man who was found not guilty by the American judicial system.

Stay classy, guys.
 
2013-07-14 04:43:20 PM
Mr. Breeze:
I didn't know executioners did their job lying on their backs while getting beaten by the convict.

Execution doesn't need a "convict", genius. Innocent people are executed by those who choose to do them harm all the time. The fact that you choose to call this unarmed murdered young man such a thing shows your obvious bias, lack of sense, and general assholiness.
 
2013-07-14 04:43:24 PM
I for one am sick of the Martin "supporters". They're the type of people who are always actively looking to cry "racism" at every opportunity. Sheesh. Give it a farkin' break, man!
 
2013-07-14 04:44:11 PM

ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday. The inability for some of you to actually review the evidence is astounding. Hopefully if you ever have someone beating the shiat out of you and smashing your head into the sidewalk you won't bother protecting your life if you have the ability.
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The fact that he had an unarmed teenager on top of him in full mount means that he had absolutely no business carrying the gun he used to kill Trayvon.

Sorry dude, you ended up with a farking teenager on top of you in a FULL MOUNT.

You clearly bit off more than you could chew. And you clearly tried biting something off. You should not be carrying a gun.
 
2013-07-14 04:44:38 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Zim has a CCW and knows how to use a weapon. I hope somebody goes after him and he busts a few more caps in self defense.


Really anything he does is self defense.  He should start charging money to go 'defend himself' against peoples' enemies.
 
2013-07-14 04:45:05 PM

Godscrack: He should buck up. Now he'll have a chance to lose all that weight he gained.


Which reminds me...if I wanted a guy to look more pathetic to a jury of white women, I'd have him put on some fat, give him a baby face. Bring out their maternal instinct. Make him look weak.

"oh he must have been getting wailed on, the poor dear, near death even. totally justified to shoot"
 
2013-07-14 04:45:14 PM

quatchi: I appreciate the fact that the man who stalked a young black man to death (essentially by initiating a series of events that led to an assault and self defense shooting)


So, look at what you've just written. Are you admitting that Trayvon assaulted Zimmerman? Further, are you admitting this is a case of self defense?

Whatever events 'led to an assault', that doesn't excuse the assault now, does it?
 
2013-07-14 04:45:31 PM

Mr. Breeze: rewind2846: FTA: "He's going to be looking over his shoulder the rest of his life," Robert Zimmerman Jr. said during an interview on CNN.

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Should have thought about that before he decided to play judge, jury and executioner.

I didn't know executioners did their job lying on their backs while getting beaten by the convict.



What was Martin convicted of?
 
2013-07-14 04:45:35 PM

iq_in_binary: ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday. The inability for some of you to actually review the evidence is astounding. Hopefully if you ever have someone beating the shiat out of you and smashing your head into the sidewalk you won't bother protecting your life if you have the ability.
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The fact that he had an unarmed teenager on top of him in full mount means that he had absolutely no business carrying the gun he used to kill Trayvon.

Sorry dude, you ended up with a farking teenager on top of you in a FULL MOUNT.

You clearly bit off more than you could chew. And you clearly tried biting something off. You should not be carrying a gun.


The fact that Zimmerman could not physically protect himself means that Zimmerman should not carry a gun so he can protect himself.

I think my head just asploded. That is one of the most asinine things I have ever read.
 
2013-07-14 04:45:47 PM
♫ pussy's got a gun, pussy's got a gun, trayvon's world's come undone
 
2013-07-14 04:46:15 PM

iq_in_binary: ferretman: Wow...the stupid is out on a Sunday. The inability for some of you to actually review the evidence is astounding. Hopefully if you ever have someone beating the shiat out of you and smashing your head into the sidewalk you won't bother protecting your life if you have the ability.
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The fact that he had an unarmed teenager on top of him in full mount means that he had absolutely no business carrying the gun he used to kill Trayvon.

Sorry dude, you ended up with a farking teenager on top of you in a FULL MOUNT.

You clearly bit off more than you could chew. And you clearly tried biting something off. You should not be carrying a gun.


The way you describe it- full mount-- is almost sexy.  Was anyone sweating at the time 'cause that kinda helps too.
 
2013-07-14 04:46:37 PM

Elegy: I see this thread has brought out the ugly side of Fark.

Clamoring for mob justice against a man who was found not guilty by the American judicial system.

Stay classy, guys.


Whoever said the American judicial system was perfect? Certainly not even the Founders believed that.
 
2013-07-14 04:46:51 PM

Elegy: I think my head just asploded. That is one of the most asinine things I have ever read.


It's early yet.
 
2013-07-14 04:47:04 PM

iq_in_binary: The fact that he had an unarmed teenager on top of him in full mount means that he had absolutely no business carrying the gun he used to kill Trayvon.


That actually says he had EVERY business carrying a gun. Your logic is a bit odd.
 
2013-07-14 04:47:09 PM

Representative of the unwashed masses: true that may be but the spate of pictures intending to paint the kid as a lowlife is spitting in his families face. that's what I find disgusting.


It's a backlash against all those "angelic 12 year old" pix.  I don't condone it, but that it the kind of crap you encourage when you start off not being honest yourself.
 
2013-07-14 04:47:15 PM

Elegy: I see this thread has brought out the ugly side of Fark.

Clamoring for mob justice against a man who was found not guilty by the American judicial system.

Stay classy, guys.


Dude, I've seen you here in these threads for the last coupla weeks.  You expect this now?  The J4T crowd is clamoring for "street justice" and will not settle until delivered.......
 
2013-07-14 04:47:26 PM
true that may be but the spate of pictures intending to paint the kid as a lowlife is spitting in his families face. that's what I find disgusting.  Zimmerman may not have broken the law but he made the first of many bad decisions that led to Matrin's death.

Well, as someone who actually lives in the area and hears other than national news, it seems the kid WAS pretty much a lowlife thug wannabe. He was in Sanford after either being expelled from school (or skipping out, I can't recall which but I think he was expelled).
 
2013-07-14 04:47:38 PM

Oldiron_79: Ambivalence: Well, he should definitely consider moving away from Florida.

THIS


That^
 
2013-07-14 04:47:57 PM

Carth: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder what would happen if he made the mistake of walking at night, and someone else took a gun, called the cops, followed him against police instruction, picked a fight, got their ass kicked, and shot him.

Not that it would happen - Zimmerman, despite his self-perception, could never kick anyone's ass.

yea, there is no evidence those two things every happened.


Yes there is, the teenager on his chest in full mount. That he shot in the chest. Because a TEENAGER was on his chest. IN FULL MOUNT. That's like riding a god damned toy pony and getting bucked off.

He's not threatening enough to provoke violence if he's so pathetic that he had to shoot a teenager after getting on him full mount. He had to be an ankle biter.
 
2013-07-14 04:48:09 PM

SevenizGud: sheep snorter: Florida jurys are so lame when the main evidence was Zimmerman leaving his vehicle when told not too(automatically invalidates any 'stand your ground' law for Zimmerman and gives 'stand your ground' to the kid.
Zimmerman at least should of gotten a year in prison or house arrest for that due to the resulting murder of the kid.
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Yeah, because the dispatcher told him not to follow, therefore Zimmerman never has any right to stand his ground...even if Martin assaults him in the Arby's parking lot a month later. Because he's waived his right to stand his ground against Martin, amirite?

But hey, I am sure you know more about the law than the judge.

A month later isn't the same as minutes later.  You're saying I can stalk you from my vehicle while you're walking on foot, get out and confront you, saying only-god-knows what to pick a fight, then shoot you and say self defense?  Zimmerman put himself in harms way, even if Martin got the upper hand in a fight, there wasn't an immediate threat to life until Zimmerman caused it.

Do you honestly agree with defense tactic of saying Martin wasn't unarmed because of cement? I That's like saying those killed at Kent State weren't unarmed because there was pavement around them.  The kids killed at Columbine H.S. weren't unarmed because of hard tile floors, and metal lockers, and chairs and desks... 
The people at the federal building in OKC when McVeigh bombed it, the people in the WTC, they weren't unarmed! There was so much cement in those buildings!
 
2013-07-14 04:48:32 PM

DoomPaul: He was found not guilty, so leave it be. I cannot see why those who criticized Zimmerman for being a vigilante would approve of vigilante justice being applied to him. He can walk in public and while people may not like him, they cannot legally attack him. If they do, he can defend himself with up to lethal force if necessary.


Maybe not, but this thread has plenty of them who think vigilante justice should be applied to GZ.
 
2013-07-14 04:48:54 PM
As he should be for what he did to Saint TreyTrey the Immaculate.
 
2013-07-14 04:49:00 PM

FloydA: What was Martin convicted of?


Well he was a confirmed chubby chaser.
 
2013-07-14 04:49:39 PM

quatchi: As a lifelong fan of irony I appreciate the fact that the man who stalked a young black man to death (essentially by initiating a series of events that led to an assault and self defense shooting) will now have to spend the rest of his life looking over his shoulder.

I get that, It works for me.

That carefully noted, in summing this thing up here Zimmerman's life as he knew it is over, Trayvon's life is over, period, and racial tensions have been heightened yet again. It's a lose/lose./lose thing.  So much fail to consider here.


Oh, so much this!!!!

I wouldn't take Zimmerman's new brand of 'Freedom' for anything in the world.  I'm sure Casey Anthony can give him the primer for it.
 
2013-07-14 04:50:18 PM

Elegy: iq_in_binary:
You clearly bit off more than you could chew. And you clearly tried biting something off. You should not be carrying a gun.

The fact that Zimmerman could not physically protect himself means that Zimmerman should not carry a gun so he can protect himself.
I think my head just asploded. That is one of the most asinine things I have ever read.


She totally had it coming to her. I bet that slut regrets going out dressed like that now.
 
2013-07-14 04:50:46 PM

Semantic Warrior: SevenizGud: sheep snorter: Florida jurys are so lame when the main evidence was Zimmerman leaving his vehicle when told not too(automatically invalidates any 'stand your ground' law for Zimmerman and gives 'stand your ground' to the kid.
Zimmerman at least should of gotten a year in prison or house arrest for that due to the resulting murder of the kid.
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Yeah, because the dispatcher told him not to follow, therefore Zimmerman never has any right to stand his ground...even if Martin assaults him in the Arby's parking lot a month later. Because he's waived his right to stand his ground against Martin, amirite?

But hey, I am sure you know more about the law than the judge.
A month later isn't the same as minutes later.  You're saying I can stalk you from my vehicle while you're walking on foot, get out and confront you, saying only-god-knows what to pick a fight, then shoot you and say self defense?  Zimmerman put himself in harms way, even if Martin got the upper hand in a fight, there wasn't an immediate threat to life until Zimmerman caused it.

Do you honestly agree with defense tactic of saying Martin wasn't unarmed because of cement? I That's like saying those killed at Kent State weren't unarmed because there was pavement around them.  The kids killed at Columbine H.S. weren't unarmed because of hard tile floors, and metal lockers, and chairs and desks... 
The people at the federal building in OKC when McVeigh bombed it, the people in the WTC, they weren't unarmed! There was so much cement in those buildings!


A legal action does not call for an illegal response. The prosecution itself said Zimmerman following Trayvon was not illegal nor has any evidence been presented to indicate that he started the fight. If you have this evidence you should have contacted the prosecution while the investigation and case were on-going.
 
2013-07-14 04:51:19 PM
Teh buthurts iz so schweet!

Cry me a river!!!

BWAHAHAHA!!!!
 
2013-07-14 04:51:35 PM

iq_in_binary: Carth: Benevolent Misanthrope: I wonder what would happen if he made the mistake of walking at night, and someone else took a gun, called the cops, followed him against police instruction, picked a fight, got their ass kicked, and shot him.

Not that it would happen - Zimmerman, despite his self-perception, could never kick anyone's ass.

yea, there is no evidence those two things every happened.

Yes there is, the teenager on his chest in full mount. That he shot in the chest. Because a TEENAGER was on his chest. IN FULL MOUNT. That's like riding a god damned toy pony and getting bucked off.

He's not threatening enough to provoke violence if he's so pathetic that he had to shoot a teenager after getting on him full mount. He had to be an ankle biter.


His gym trainer pretty much testified to that. He said he was so weak and soft he worried he'd lose when shadow boxing. If you have no physical abilities a gun is a pretty good equalizer.
 
2013-07-14 04:51:35 PM
The most interesting part of this trial for me was that I was able to observe fark regulars who normally deny things like science and facts applying the same exact faulty logic to this case. Id never bothered to keep track of various peoples names and opinions before.... now I've got hoards marked/flagged for easier discussions in the future.

Its kind of nice.
 
2013-07-14 04:51:39 PM

BeatrixK: I wouldn't take Zimmerman's new brand of 'Freedom' for anything in the world.


It sucks but it still beats prison.

/or being dead
 
2013-07-14 04:51:43 PM

Popcorn Johnny: Zim has a CCW and knows how to use a weapon. I hope somebody goes after him and he busts a few more caps in self defense.


They do say everyone gets better after their first time
 
2013-07-14 04:51:45 PM

stiletto_the_wise: Sofa_king_kewl: This is why I love Fark so much, it's a site inion dated with arm chair lawyers, self righteous  liberals and a bunch of just plan old assholes. He was found not guilty, I hope he still carries his weapon, he may need it.

I'd like to see the same people who believe O.J. "obviously" did it come here to explain to us all how Zimmerman can't possibly be a murderer because he was found not guilty.


It never was about proving Zimmerman "couldn't possibly be a murderer". The states job was to prove "beyond a reasonable doubt" that he was a murderer and had nothing but supposition. Most reasonable people felt the state proved far beyond a reasonable doubt OJ was a murderer and got off because a jury of bias black people found out one of the cops uttered an illegal word in the past. Many of the same people cheering in the streets after that bogus verdict are all buthurt after this one. Trademark Martin deserved what he got. Deal with it OJ fans.

/god bless Zimmerman.
 
2013-07-14 04:51:52 PM

phenn: iq_in_binary: The fact that he had an unarmed teenager on top of him in full mount means that he had absolutely no business carrying the gun he used to kill Trayvon.

That actually says he had EVERY business carrying a gun. Your logic is a bit odd.


Getting a teenager on top of you in full mount is like riding a toy pony and getting bucked off.

Either way, you're far out of your league, you've entered the wrong damn stadium, and you need an adult to keep you from doing something stupid.

NOT somebody I want carrying a gun. Oh yeah, I carry one myself, I have a right to farking comment.
 
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