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(Denver Post)   Denver's plans for spending its proposed 5% tax on recreational MJ would give it more inspectors and enforcers for pot than Colorado has for the oil & gas industries   (denverpost.com) divider line 65
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2013-07-14 06:51:17 PM  

jjorsett: REO-Weedwagon: jjorsett: You know that fantasy you had that marijuana taxes would pay for things like...

I didn't have that fantasy and neither did a single pot smoker I know in Colorado. What we have is a large enough coalition that stood up to the stupidity of the Federal War On Drugs and legalized marijuana.

Then you guys haven't been reading enough Fark drug threads. Legalizing marijuana and other drugs and then taxing them was supposed to provide a gusher of new revenue to government and, in the view of some of the more, shall we say, enthusiastic proponents, would all but eliminate the need for other taxes.

I have six beautiful ladies growing in my backyard. It pisses off my Tea Party neighbor, the prison guard, to no end. He's also in favor of small gubment and freedom!

I'm a Tea Party member, and I'm fully in support of relaxing mj laws and growing however much you want. Here's a newsflash: not everybody who calls himself a "Tea Party member" wants to achieve the smaller government and lower tax goals in the exact same way as everybody else calling himself that. Let's celebrate our diversity.


Yeah, if there's one thing that comes to mind when I think Tea Party, it's diversity.
 
2013-07-14 07:10:50 PM  

ski9600: MFAWG: So it's creating jobs?

I seems like it would've created a lot of specialized jobs for people with Biology and other science degrees, but no they'll just tax the shiat out of it so everyone has to grow their own and the tax revenue won't support all of these inspectors/administrators so taxpayers lose again.


Maybe it's just the plant scientist in me, but I cannot WAIT to get my hands on a Cannabis Plant Breeding program. Everything about it makes my pants tight and my nose water. There's science to be done in a legalized pain reliever, genetics, and chemistry.

/Scienceboner
 
2013-07-14 07:21:08 PM  
Well, as I long ago predicted, the elected 'representatives' aka Pants-Wetters are of course, well aware that they know better than we do what is good for us, so they want to make sure we really, really, really, really, really want legal weed in Colorado.

It's the last gasp of a bunch of people who long ago hitched their wagons to the Anti-Drug star and now they are going to have to cope with a new reality, truth and freedom have gained the upper hand for a while.

To those Pants-Wetters I say this:  For 40 years, you have told me in a very condencending tone, looking down at me, that if I did not like the law, well, I could "vote to CHANGE it!".  Well, guess what PW...we DID change the law.  And now it's time for you to like it or lump it and have a nice big cup of STFU.  Hope you don't choke on those feathers while eating Crow - can I get you another?

Bah, I'm tired of being nice about it.  They are turning a simple issue into a Soup Sandwich.
 
2013-07-14 07:57:03 PM  

AliceBToklasLives: Tumunga: HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Watch! Right before your very own eyes! All the Libtards are turning into Teabaggers!

Yeah, local experimentation prior to national implementation is a great idea, and it is certainly consistent with Tea Party principles as well as Occupy's anarchist side.

I'm all for local pilot projects when it comes to practical matters like legalizing drugs.  My problem is with local disruptions of fundamental rights, such as the right to vote.


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2013-07-14 08:44:26 PM  

Mouser: AliceBToklasLives: Tumunga: HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Watch! Right before your very own eyes! All the Libtards are turning into Teabaggers!

Yeah, local experimentation prior to national implementation is a great idea, and it is certainly consistent with Tea Party principles as well as Occupy's anarchist side.

I'm all for local pilot projects when it comes to practical matters like legalizing drugs.  My problem is with local disruptions of fundamental rights, such as the right to vote.

His point: -------->
Your head:   O


He had a point?  I thought it was an over simplified straw man.  It's almost as if people so butthurt over a flower being legal to grow and possess would be vindictive using the same methods they claim to despise on principle alone.

So really, watch before your very eyes, as 'small government' authoritarians employ overzealous government regulation because it satisfies their control issues.  Hilarious.
 
2013-07-14 09:20:29 PM  

Mouser: AliceBToklasLives: Tumunga: HAHAHAHAHA!!!

Watch! Right before your very own eyes! All the Libtards are turning into Teabaggers!

Yeah, local experimentation prior to national implementation is a great idea, and it is certainly consistent with Tea Party principles as well as Occupy's anarchist side.

I'm all for local pilot projects when it comes to practical matters like legalizing drugs.  My problem is with local disruptions of fundamental rights, such as the right to vote.

His point: -------->
Your head:   O


I was assuming the post referred to the Tea Party focus on local autonomy. But enlighten me.
 
2013-07-14 09:58:48 PM  

MFAWG: So it's creating jobs?


Government does not create jobs.  Did  you learn nothing from all that campaign spending?
 
2013-07-14 10:00:25 PM  
The more taxes on legal weed, the better for street sellers.
 
2013-07-14 11:55:59 PM  

RodneyToady: Is it legal to grow your own for personal use?  If so, can't people just avoid most of the taxes (not to mention recurring costs) by growing a couple of plants at home?  Even with a couple of lamps, you should break even relatively quickly...


It's not easy to grow the good stuff and it takes longer than many have patience for; getting a couple lamps is by far the easy part.
 
2013-07-15 03:08:23 AM  

Oldiron_79: RodneyToady: Is it legal to grow your own for personal use?  If so, can't people just avoid most of the taxes (not to mention recurring costs) by growing a couple of plants at home?  Even with a couple of lamps, you should break even relatively quickly...

Im rather certain its illegal to grow your own even in the states with legal medical mj.Like as in many years in PMITA federal prison for being a drug producer.

Of course if you was growing for personal use and not selling you arent gonna get busted unless someone who knows about it gets pissed at you and narcs you out.


Wat? I'm rather certain you're terribly mistaken with regard to state mmj laws. Oregon allows 6 mature plants and 18 seedlings per patient: http://public.health.oregon.gov/DiseasesConditions/ChronicDisease/Med i calMarijuanaProgram/Documents/ommp%20le%20training.pdf
 
2013-07-15 11:32:50 AM  
You guys are morons... everyone won't grow their own.

1st, have you ever seen someone with MS try to prune a plant? As someone with MS, I can assure you that it is hilarious, but unproductive.
2nd. People visiting from other states to buy weed aren't going to stay long enough for a farking plant to grow. If you think weed is expensive, try a few weeks at a Holiday Inn.
3rd People are too lazy to grow their own plants, this is the culture that brought you TV dinners and fast food, because 10 minutes grilling a burger seemed like too much work.
 
2013-07-15 11:35:28 AM  

Oldiron_79: RodneyToady: Is it legal to grow your own for personal use?  If so, can't people just avoid most of the taxes (not to mention recurring costs) by growing a couple of plants at home?  Even with a couple of lamps, you should break even relatively quickly...

Im rather certain its illegal to grow your own even in the states with legal medical mj.Like as in many years in PMITA federal prison for being a drug producer.

Of course if you was growing for personal use and not selling you arent gonna get busted unless someone who knows about it gets pissed at you and narcs you out.


Both rather certain and rather wrong, I like it!

You absolutely can grow your own in CO (we're under the mmj laws until jan 1)... there are limits to how many plants you can grow, but the law very clearly enumerates how you (or a caretaker of your designation) can grow it within the confines of the law.
 
2013-07-15 12:53:22 PM  

firefly212: Oldiron_79: RodneyToady: Is it legal to grow your own for personal use?  If so, can't people just avoid most of the taxes (not to mention recurring costs) by growing a couple of plants at home?  Even with a couple of lamps, you should break even relatively quickly...

Im rather certain its illegal to grow your own even in the states with legal medical mj.Like as in many years in PMITA federal prison for being a drug producer.

Of course if you was growing for personal use and not selling you arent gonna get busted unless someone who knows about it gets pissed at you and narcs you out.

Both rather certain and rather wrong, I like it!

You absolutely can grow your own in CO (we're under the mmj laws until jan 1)... there are limits to how many plants you can grow, but the law very clearly enumerates how you (or a caretaker of your designation) can grow it within the confines of the law.


Well federal law (which trumps state law) says you cant have none, although you'd have to be big enough to get the DEA's attention.
 
2013-07-15 09:46:45 PM  
DEA's attention begins at 100 plants for a federal felony prosecution and if prosecuted there is a better than 94% chance that the feds win.
 
2013-07-15 09:48:35 PM  

Oldiron_79: firefly212: Oldiron_79: RodneyToady: Is it legal to grow your own for personal use?  If so, can't people just avoid most of the taxes (not to mention recurring costs) by growing a couple of plants at home?  Even with a couple of lamps, you should break even relatively quickly...

Im rather certain its illegal to grow your own even in the states with legal medical mj.Like as in many years in PMITA federal prison for being a drug producer.

Of course if you was growing for personal use and not selling you arent gonna get busted unless someone who knows about it gets pissed at you and narcs you out.

Both rather certain and rather wrong, I like it!

You absolutely can grow your own in CO (we're under the mmj laws until jan 1)... there are limits to how many plants you can grow, but the law very clearly enumerates how you (or a caretaker of your designation) can grow it within the confines of the law.

Well federal law (which trumps state law) says you cant have none, although you'd have to be big enough to get the DEA's attention.


If the federal government wants to spend it's resources going after stoners, then it can... but we're not wasting our state resources on it any more... and I somewhat doubt that already overloaded federal prosecutors are gonna try to use the CSA to go after everyone for simple possession.
 
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