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(Huffington Post)   Creeped out by the Zimmerman decision, NAACP invites people to sign a petition for the DOJ to look into civil rights violations. Difficulty: NAACP's website down due to too many people trying to sign the petition   (huffingtonpost.com) divider line 112
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2013-07-14 11:11:54 AM  
13 votes:
ironic that the only thing racial about the incident were the comments made by Martin to his female friend on the phone...
2013-07-14 12:00:58 PM  
9 votes:
He was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

/yes, it's that simple regardless of one's feelings on the case
2013-07-14 11:06:26 AM  
7 votes:
Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.
2013-07-14 11:05:27 AM  
7 votes:
As much as I would have liked to see Zimm rot in jail, I'm not signing that. He was already put on trial.
2013-07-14 11:44:12 AM  
6 votes:
It's time for Obama to come out and say thank you to the State of Florida for going to great lengths to see that we found out for sure what happened in this case,  And then to applaud the jury for doing the right thing.  And finally to tell the NAACP (and others) to STFU.
2013-07-14 01:57:25 PM  
5 votes:
fark the NAACP. There wasn't enough evidence to convict. You do not get to keep making up new shiat to try and convict him on just because you don't like the verdict. You lost. Deal with it.
2013-07-14 01:51:55 PM  
5 votes:

vartian: and he is certainly a racist


Yeah, only a real racists takes a black girl to the prom and serves as a mentor to black youth.
2013-07-14 11:55:25 AM  
5 votes:
The FBI already looked into this in 2012 and found no evidence of racial bias on Zimmerman's part, but by all means keep engaging in carnal relations with that domesticated fowl.
2013-07-14 11:04:01 AM  
5 votes:
i51.tinypic.com
2013-07-14 01:58:21 PM  
4 votes:

vartian: jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.

You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.


You are wrong. A killing in self-dense is most certainly not a crime (even if the "victim" happens to be a favored minority).
2013-07-14 12:37:39 PM  
4 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: doglover: Lionel Mandrake: people who cheered Ronald Goldman's family for their persistence

Who were these people?

A lot of people unsatisfied with the "not guilty" verdict.

Maybe you are too young, or clueless, or choose to forget, but the "get OJ" sentiment was pretty high at the time.  And the glee when OJ lost in civil court was pretty obvious to people with eyes.


Totally opposite cases.

OJ was surrounded by evidence against him, but was only freed from the criminal side because California's prosecutors sucked.

Zimmerman said exactly what he claims happened from the first, and yet there's been no shred of evidence to counter his claims.

OJ was accused of ambushing two people in a crime of passion.

Zimmerman admitted to shooting an assailant who was straddling him.

OJ hired the best lawyers money could buy.

Zimmerman scraped up the only lawyers who would still work with him.


So much is different. The only comparison is that they were both trials. And frankly, I've always been upset that the Goldmans successful sued OJ. If they had sued the police for farking up the crime scene, the prosecutors for being morons, or even OJ's douchey roommate for being a douche those would have been acceptable. But they didn't. They sued OJ, who was found not guilty. I've always maintained you should slave civil damages for criminal acts TO the criminal charges. If you're not guilty of the crime, they shouldn't be able to sue you. It would make criminal juries think twice and be more in keeping with the spirit of the constitution.
2013-07-14 11:42:07 AM  
4 votes:
Is this how it's gonna be? Just keep throwing charges at him until something sticks?
2013-07-14 11:27:04 AM  
4 votes:

vartian: Boojum2k: vartian: Sue the fark out of him in civil court

Very likely not, the self-defense laws in Florida not only prohibit civil cases against someone found not guilty by self-defense, they put all court costs, attorney fees, etc onto the filing party.

Reading that now. Lord, Florida is a farked-up state.


So, you think people who are not guilty due to self-defense should be sued by their attackers?  Really?

/Martin is a piss-poor martyr
//the system is racist, but this is a terrible case to use on your banner
2013-07-14 11:18:31 AM  
4 votes:
Has anyone commented yet that Zimmerman doesnt even look white?
2013-07-14 11:15:37 AM  
4 votes:

jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.


You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.
2013-07-14 03:23:04 PM  
3 votes:
What's really hilarious is that fark's left has gone from the mantra of "You hate brown people" in regards to the Immigration debate to actually... hating a brown person.  How racist is it to put forth a theory that "he's not really Hispanic, therefore Trayvon was innocent and Zimmerman deserves 30 years."  You are telling someone they are not the ethnicity that they are.  Yet... it's the people who understand the evidence and law that you are calling racists.  Amazing.
2013-07-14 02:56:03 PM  
3 votes:
So for all those who think justice was not served in the TM/DZ case......

Would you like to change our legal system so the burden of proof that the state has to present is lower than it is now?


Are you cool with that lower burden of proof affecting, Blacks, Hispanic and Whites equally?
2013-07-14 02:08:26 PM  
3 votes:

Bigdogdaddy: He was found not guilty.  I didn't agree with it, but that's the way our system works.


But he killed him in self defence, so not guilty on those grounds makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? Or is it more that you would say that killing in self defence is still killing and thus he should have gone to jail anyway? 

Being foreign I haven't paid close attention to this case, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems pretty clear he was being assaulted, and probably a few head bashes on the pavement away from death himself, and he shot the guy. Does it really matter that he called the police to report him looking suspicious? That doesn't make him a racist, if anything given Martin's reaction it makes him perceptive.

Now, if Zimmerman had harrassed Martin, to the point where he went over and instigated the fight which he ended up losing and having to use his gun then exhoneration would be clearly wrong, but that would have come out in court if it were the case. So it seems to me rather clear, and fair, that Zimmerman was cleared, and why. Am I missing key facts?
2013-07-14 01:58:07 PM  
3 votes:
Let's repeat our grade school civics lesson since a lot of people seem to have forgotten the basics.

We are not a democracy.  We are a constitutional republic.

Democracy is a lynch mob.
2013-07-14 01:29:27 PM  
3 votes:

BravadoGT: Zimmerman robbed America of a great person--right after he was done with getting high, burglarizing houses and picking fights with strangers, he was all set to be the next W.E.B. Dubois


Yes, 17 years was plenty of time for this guy to prove worthy of life.
2013-07-14 12:28:46 PM  
3 votes:
He's immune from civil liability if they found him not guilty based on self defense.

That won't stop that moron Crump from filing though.
2013-07-14 11:28:08 AM  
3 votes:

iq_in_binary: "Stand Your Ground"


Yet another outraged person who didn't follow the trial, only Facebook and Twitter....
2013-07-14 11:26:21 AM  
3 votes:

Boojum2k: vartian: Sue the fark out of him in civil court

Very likely not, the self-defense laws in Florida not only prohibit civil cases against someone found not guilty by self-defense, they put all court costs, attorney fees, etc onto the filing party.


This Floors Me. Florida is one of the dumbest states, and yet they have awesome legislation like this on the books?

Imagine, for a minute, if more species of lawsuits worked this way. You sue someone. You have to pay for EVERYTHING up front out of pocket. This would absolutely kill industries like patent trolls. It would be cheap as free to fight them, because it would be on their dime. And no one would ever settle, because any money is more expensive than free.

And quite frankly, civil lawsuits should be trumped by criminal ones. If you press charges, you should forfeit the right to sue. If you sue, you forfeit the right to press charges. It would remove the double jeopardy loop hole we've got goin' on how.
2013-07-14 11:17:21 AM  
3 votes:

vartian: Sue the fark out of him in civil court


Very likely not, the self-defense laws in Florida not only prohibit civil cases against someone found not guilty by self-defense, they put all court costs, attorney fees, etc onto the filing party.
2013-07-14 04:17:41 PM  
2 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: That's a really disgusting smear against Zimmerman, are you racist against hispanics?


Speaking of racism, just listen to this guy. He uses every slur in the book to talk about the reaction to the killing of the Skittles kid.

NSFW language
2013-07-14 03:23:14 PM  
2 votes:
i.imgur.com
Bush jr sure has got a dark tan.... But look at them nice teeth..
2013-07-14 02:49:35 PM  
2 votes:

vartian: LemSkroob: vartian: and he is certainly a racist

Yeah, only a real racists takes a black girl to the prom and serves as a mentor to black youth.

Yeah, I'm sure he followed lots of white kids walking through his neighborhood.


He would have if the robbers who had been breaking into homes in that neighborhood had been white. They weren't, and you are a dishonest racist asshole
2013-07-14 02:28:06 PM  
2 votes:
Black people are the most racist people in the country now. There was a poll taken somewhere that was very interesting on this fact. Plus, posting pictures of the victim throwing gang signs sure helps too.

This kid got what was coming to him. And seeing our president is black, he finds a way to sidestep "double jeopardy" and the jury of our peers because he didn't get the result he wanted to see. Can't you all see that the government is writing laws on the fly now...

fark this government. That kid was nothing but another piece of shiat thug. Hey black people, I thought only whites could be racist.... Hypocrites.
2013-07-14 02:20:10 PM  
2 votes:

MFAWG: The fact that he ran away?


It was entered into testimony that fetus trayvon made it all the way to his dads back yard.

But his body was found 300 feet away from that location.....


How did that happen?

Did Fetus Trayvon double back and start stalking Saint Zimmerman?

He was out of danger when he made it home....he started a confrontation all over again
2013-07-14 02:14:49 PM  
2 votes:
Because, you know, double jeopardy totally isn't a civil rights violation, lol.
2013-07-14 02:14:31 PM  
2 votes:

sheep snorter: So according to the jury's moronic result of the case...... We can get out of our cars and stalk and then murder a black kid because he looked suspicious.

/Providing you are white enough, that is.
//Oh and state that when you confronted him, the kid tried to stand his ground to get your cracker ass from stalking him.
//But we all know that stand your ground is only for frightened paranoid loser white people to use.


Please reference the evidence indicating that Mr. Trayvon Martin experienced a reasonable fear of imminent death, grievous bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual assault prior to his attacking Mr. Zimmerman.

Slaxl: Bigdogdaddy: He was found not guilty.  I didn't agree with it, but that's the way our system works.

But he killed him in self defence, so not guilty on those grounds makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? Or is it more that you would say that killing in self defence is still killing and thus he should have gone to jail anyway?
Being foreign I haven't paid close attention to this case, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems pretty clear he was being assaulted, and probably a few head bashes on the pavement away from death himself, and he shot the guy. Does it really matter that he called the police to report him looking suspicious? That doesn't make him a racist, if anything given Martin's reaction it makes him perceptive.

Now, if Zimmerman had harrassed Martin, to the point where he went over and instigated the fight which he ended up losing and having to use his gun then exhoneration would be clearly wrong, but that would have come out in court if it were the case. So it seems to me rather clear, and fair, that Zimmerman was cleared, and why. Am I missing key facts?


You are evidently unaware that prior to being attacked, Mr. Zimmerman shouted numerous racial epithets and openly waved his firearm in front of Mr. Martin. These events are well-documented, as they were witnessed in great detail in the imaginations of individuals who were never anywhere near the confrontation but who have decided that Mr. Zimmerman must be guilty.
2013-07-14 02:09:01 PM  
2 votes:
i106.photobucket.com
2013-07-14 02:05:22 PM  
2 votes:

cptjeff: BravadoGT: Zimmerman robbed America of a great person--right after he was done with getting high, burglarizing houses and picking fights with strangers, he was all set to be the next W.E.B. Dubois

And people wonder why everybody thinks Zimmerman's defenders are racists.


He was a thug who sucker punched another man and tried to do worse.  He was bangin', just like his old man, "Crippin All Time"

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2013-07-14 02:05:03 PM  
2 votes:
This case is not a racial issue.  Zimmerman got attacked by some punk and shot him.  End of story.

People trying to turn this into a racial thing are doing so purely for political purposes.
2013-07-14 02:01:25 PM  
2 votes:
vartian:

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.

I'm pretty sure he'll be just fine.  The thing with George is, he's an idiot.  That's why his lawyers never let him speak.  The guy thought he could use some code in jail to communicate to his wife how to hide money from the judge.  He actually thought he was cunning enough to get away with that.

Let's face it, you and me will never be on trial like this because we're not going out at night playing cop.  George is too dumb to even realize that his problems are his own fault.  He'll go right on smiling.  I bet he gets a pundit gig at WND where he can rail at our liberal justice system railroading free citizens into jail.  He just has to remind people that he's a Mexican or whatever and not white because this is very important to his fans for some reason.
2013-07-14 02:00:33 PM  
2 votes:

vartian: jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.

You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.


Funny, the African-American legal intern that volunteered to work for the defense for free and who's spent many hours with Zimmerman says otherwise. I'm sure you know better because [insert explanation here].

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/07/12/erin-mattingly -d nt-zimmermans-legal-intern.cnn.html
2013-07-14 01:59:01 PM  
2 votes:

pedobearapproved: plmyfngr: ironic that the only thing racial about the incident were the comments made by Martin to his female friend on the phone...

THIS all day everyday until people actually watch or read about the trial they are so outraged about


This. But of course, it's inherently racist for a White (or white-ish) person to kill a black person, no matter what. So, clearly there must have been a civil rights violation.
2013-07-14 01:59:00 PM  
2 votes:
Hey guys, how about you not try to set a precedent for allowing double jeopardy and instead focus your efforts on unfarking Florida?

Conviction shopping is a serious threat to the rule of law, folks.
2013-07-14 01:57:33 PM  
2 votes:
The media's going to keep stirring this pot until there is a riot no matter what the costs aren't they?  What a bunch of douches. 

He was found not guilty.  I didn't agree with it, but that's the way our system works.
2013-07-14 01:54:12 PM  
2 votes:

elysive: Has anyone commented yet that Zimmerman doesnt even look white?


Zimmerman doesn't have to be white to have targeted Trayvon Martin because he was black.

See how that works?
2013-07-14 01:27:29 PM  
2 votes:
Zimmerman robbed America of a great person--right after he was done with getting high, burglarizing houses and picking fights with strangers, he was all set to be the next W.E.B. Dubois
2013-07-14 01:23:16 PM  
2 votes:
Nabb1:People need to move on.

 assets.nydailynews.com

He'll get right on that.
2013-07-14 12:25:00 PM  
2 votes:

doglover: Lionel Mandrake: people who cheered Ronald Goldman's family for their persistence

Who were these people?


A lot of people unsatisfied with the "not guilty" verdict.

Maybe you are too young, or clueless, or choose to forget, but the "get OJ" sentiment was pretty high at the time.  And the glee when OJ lost in civil court was pretty obvious to people with eyes.
2013-07-14 12:16:25 PM  
2 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: Adolf Oliver Nipples: Is this how it's gonna be? Just keep throwing charges at him until something sticks?

Probably.  And the people who cheered Ronald Goldman's family for their persistence will shiat all over the Martin family.


I vaguely recollect that name.  How many people did he jump on top of and start pounding into the pavement?
2013-07-14 11:55:06 AM  
2 votes:

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Is this how it's gonna be? Just keep throwing charges at him until something sticks?


Probably.  And the people who cheered Ronald Goldman's family for their persistence will shiat all over the Martin family.
2013-07-14 06:05:14 PM  
1 votes:

CliChe Guevara: I'd rather see the NAACP deal with the black lady just sent to prison for 20 years for firing a warning shot at an attacker in a situation clearly and unambiguously covered under SYG.


You REALLY know nothing about that case do you?
2013-07-14 05:50:02 PM  
1 votes:

vartian: Boojum2k: vartian: Sue the fark out of him in civil court

Very likely not, the self-defense laws in Florida not only prohibit civil cases against someone found not guilty by self-defense, they put all court costs, attorney fees, etc onto the filing party.

Reading that now. Lord, Florida is a farked-up state.


On the contrary. Immunity from liability for justifiable use of deadly force is something that should be in every state. And Castle Doctrine should be adjudicated as clearly implicit in the Second Amendment.
2013-07-14 05:43:19 PM  
1 votes:
Sure is a lot of hate on "white people" in here. Good thing it's not racist if it's against "white people."
2013-07-14 05:27:26 PM  
1 votes:

Dimensio: rzrwiresunrise: The thing that went wrong with the Zimmerman case: waiting 44 days to arrest him for homicide. And all because of FL's brand new SYG law.

Let it go & work on fixing that law.

Are you ignoring the fact that Mr. Zimmerman did not rely upon "Stand Your Ground" in his defense, or are you dishonestly ignoring facts that do not conform to your preferred narrative?


Never let the facts get in the way of a good outrage.
2013-07-14 05:02:28 PM  
1 votes:
Ever since the gay rights movement, blacks have shown their true color in regards to civil rights, they simple don't care about them unless you are talking about blacks, specifically black straights.  Black preachers, NAACP top officers, race pimps and others have shown nothing but contempt to keep gays from receiving the same recognition they want for blacks.  When I saw that the bible meant more to them then equality, it really opened my eyes to the fact that when blacks talk about "civil rights" they just mean whatever is good for blacks and screw everyone else. If you don't believe me, look how the black community views gays within their own community, there really are no more oppressed people than black gays, downlows have it bad and I feel sorry that their own "civil rights" movement hates them.

This case is no civil rights issue, this is an issue whereby they only want whatever they perceive as good and damn all the evidence and testimony to the contrary.
2013-07-14 04:31:01 PM  
1 votes:

Elegy: iq_in_binary: CNN and NBC aren't idiots. They haven't breathed a word that isn't true.

NBC selectively edited the recording of the non-emergency call to make Zimmerman appear more racist. Specifically, they edited out the portion of the non-emergency 911 tapes where Noffke the non-emergency dispatcher asked Zimmerman "what race is he" so it sounded like Zimmerman said "this guy is on drugs or something, looks like he's up to no good... he looks black" even though he was asked by Noffke about Martin's race. NBC is also the channel that pushed the story that the statement Zimmerman made under his breath - "farking punks," a statement that even the prosecution agreed to at trial - was, in fact, "farking coons."

So actually, NBC has aired quite a bit on Zimmerman that isn't true, and he has good grounds for a lawsuit.

CNN aired his social security number during the trial. Zimmerman has less of a case here, as the SSN wasn't originally redacted by the court, and the airing of his SSN seems largely inadvertent on CNN's part.

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If selective editing was enough to grant damages, FOX would've been out of business in the first week.

Like I said, he won't get a dime. Or at the very least, noone wants him to, because if he does, precedent gets set that opens up the "liberal" media to quite a bit of trouble.
2013-07-14 04:28:26 PM  
1 votes:

DerpHerder: Slaxl: Bigdogdaddy: He was found not guilty.  I didn't agree with it, but that's the way our system works.

But he killed him in self defence, so not guilty on those grounds makes perfect sense. Doesn't it? Or is it more that you would say that killing in self defence is still killing and thus he should have gone to jail anyway? 

Being foreign I haven't paid close attention to this case, so please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong, but it seems pretty clear he was being assaulted, and probably a few head bashes on the pavement away from death himself, and he shot the guy. Does it really matter that he called the police to report him looking suspicious? That doesn't make him a racist, if anything given Martin's reaction it makes him perceptive.

Now, if Zimmerman had harrassed Martin, to the point where he went over and instigated the fight which he ended up losing and having to use his gun then exhoneration would be clearly wrong, but that would have come out in court if it were the case. So it seems to me rather clear, and fair, that Zimmerman was cleared, and why. Am I missing key facts?

You seem to have all the facts down. Unfortunately the sequence of events are one sided, but they are the facts. Anyone telling you otherwise is filling in their own blanks and connecting the dots to form the picture they want.

Zimmerman saw someone acting suspiciously.
Called police.
Followed suspicious individual.
A confrontation ensued and a fight ouccured.
During that fight zimmerman sustained injuries.
His injuries and eyewitness testimony supported his scenario of events for selfdefense.


Technically, the prosecution was unable to prove that it wasn't self-defense.  That's not the same as saying it was.

Like I said, the jury decided correctly.  This is in no way the same as saying Zimmerman acted correctly.
2013-07-14 04:11:34 PM  
1 votes:
I am shocked that people think if you get in a fight, you have the right to kill someone with a gun. That is the most absurd concept I have ever heard. This seems to be the crux of the divide.
2013-07-14 04:11:15 PM  
1 votes:

iq_in_binary: CNN and NBC aren't idiots. They haven't breathed a word that isn't true.


NBC selectively edited the recording of the non-emergency call to make Zimmerman appear more racist. Specifically, they edited out the portion of the non-emergency 911 tapes where Noffke the non-emergency dispatcher asked Zimmerman "what race is he" so it sounded like Zimmerman said "this guy is on drugs or something, looks like he's up to no good... he looks black" even though he was asked by Noffke about Martin's race. NBC is also the channel that pushed the story that the statement Zimmerman made under his breath - "farking punks," a statement that even the prosecution agreed to at trial - was, in fact, "farking coons."

So actually, NBC has aired quite a bit on Zimmerman that isn't true, and he has good grounds for a lawsuit.

CNN aired his social security number during the trial. Zimmerman has less of a case here, as the SSN wasn't originally redacted by the court, and the airing of his SSN seems largely inadvertent on CNN's part.

themoreyouknow.jpg
2013-07-14 04:06:48 PM  
1 votes:

Boojum2k: The Muthaship: He's immune from civil liability if they found him not guilty based on self defense.

That won't stop that moron Crump from filing though.

How the hell did Crump become a lawyer anyway?


Affirmative Action.
2013-07-14 03:58:46 PM  
1 votes:
i140.photobucket.com
2013-07-14 03:49:53 PM  
1 votes:
puu.sh
Profiling is bad and if you do it you should feel bad.
2013-07-14 03:48:29 PM  
1 votes:
Obama said we should all honor Trayvon Martin,

Most of us don't care to honor a hoodlum. Thanks, champ.
2013-07-14 03:46:24 PM  
1 votes:
What about George Zimmerman's civil rights? Black people think they own civil rights.

Liberals will always find a way to embarrass themselves. In this case, they just want that large money Zimmerman will be receiving from NBC and CNN that he deserves every penny of.
2013-07-14 03:45:53 PM  
1 votes:

Carth: That's the way to honor Trayvon Martin


Tell me again, why would we even want to honor a violent, drug-addled racist attempted murderer, Mr. President?

I haven't seen so much apologetics from the left since it turned out that, hey, the Killian Memo did turn out to be fake.

You LIBTARDS are the societal equivalent of the mother who says "My baby ain't never do nothing wrong" after her son finally gets put away for aggravated assault...even though he's been arrested 40 times.
2013-07-14 03:39:56 PM  
1 votes:

DoomPaul: vartian: jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.

You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.

Funny, the African-American legal intern that volunteered to work for the defense for free and who's spent many hours with Zimmerman says otherwise. I'm sure you know better because [insert explanation here].

http://www.cnn.com/video/data/2.0/video/us/2013/07/12/erin-mattingly -d nt-zimmermans-legal-intern.cnn.html



As well as his black neighbors who had nothing but good things to say about him.  And the two black school kids he mentored.

From the very beginning the only racists I have seen in the whole show have been the rabid anti-Zimmerman crowd.
2013-07-14 03:39:32 PM  
1 votes:
People that throw the word "racist" around and see racism in everything have problems.
2013-07-14 03:39:29 PM  
1 votes:

OgreMagi: Let's repeat our grade school civics lesson since a lot of people seem to have forgotten the basics.

We are not a democracy.  We are a constitutional republic.

Democracy is a lynch mob.


If you had actually paid attention in grade school instead of concentrating your efforts on discerning the subtle flavors of the paste you'd know that yes, we are a democracy, and yes, we are a constitutional republic. They are not mutually exclusive despite what wannabe pedants would like to believe. We elect representatives. That's a democracy. No we are not a pure democracy and nobody ever claims we are.

The "we're not a democracy" line accomplishes one thing and one thing only, it makes the speaker look like a complete farking idiot.
2013-07-14 03:37:29 PM  
1 votes:
If I was Obama I would have stated that people should get their shiat together and stop creeping around and acting suspicious and bouncing peoples heads off the pavement because someone dared to disrespect them and looked at them funny....instead of trying to blame the gun or the guy who defended himself with the gun.

If it wasn't for the gun Trayvon would have killed Zimmerman....why would you support a president who believes Trayvon bouncing Zimmermans head off the concrete is okay?
2013-07-14 03:33:21 PM  
1 votes:

HotWingConspiracy: Popcorn Johnny: HotWingConspiracy: But it looks like your grand predictions of a race war aren't really panning out. Poor guy, you bought all of that ammo.

I never predicted a race war and don't own guns. As for riots, this is far from over.

Dude I get it, you see black people as a monolith that think like animals with no self control or sense of propriety.


Dude, I get it.  You hate hispanics.
2013-07-14 03:31:48 PM  
1 votes:
It is not a well known fact, but the Department of "Justice" also sent people to Florida to organize anti--Zimmerman protests---further enflaming an already heated lynch mob atmosphere---and this was done with taxpayer money.

I would say Eric Holder has some mighty hard questions to answer on this one---and so does Comrade Obsamavich.
2013-07-14 03:24:21 PM  
1 votes:

El_Perro: Giltric: El_Perro: LemSkroob: El_Perro: I don't know about Florida's loser pays law, but note that the self-defense argument is tougher to make in civil court, because the burden of proof is much lower. In the criminal case, the prosecution had to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case, it's only a preponderance of the evidence. Combine that and the lack of a possibility of jail time, and you end up with a recipe for a compromise verdict/award if the case ever gets to trial. Certainly not a slam dunk for Martin's family, but it also wouldn't be a slam dunk for Zimmerman in the way the criminal trial was.

What he said was two things. (1) In FL civil court, its loser pays and (2) In FL, a successful self-defense case, like Zimmerman, is automatically immune, so its simply not going to happen.

See my other response - the mere fact that he was found not guilty after raising a self defense argument does not automatically make him immune. He'd have to seek immunity if and when he is sued. Even O'Mara said, during hos press conference last night, that they will seek immunity if sued.

he said they will seek and receive immunity.

Its basically a done deal. Just a formality of filling out paper work according to FL statute

He said they would seek and get immunity, yes, but that does not mean it is just paperwork.  What statute makes it a formality to get civil immunity with no specific finding of fact that he acted in self defense?  It would take a hearing in the civil case. A hearing that Zimmerman would likely win, but certainly no 'formality'


There was no way he is found not guilty except for in finding for self defense.  Have you really not been paying attention?
2013-07-14 03:11:07 PM  
1 votes:

El_Perro: LemSkroob: El_Perro: I don't know about Florida's loser pays law, but note that the self-defense argument is tougher to make in civil court, because the burden of proof is much lower. In the criminal case, the prosecution had to disprove self-defense beyond a reasonable doubt. In a civil case, it's only a preponderance of the evidence. Combine that and the lack of a possibility of jail time, and you end up with a recipe for a compromise verdict/award if the case ever gets to trial. Certainly not a slam dunk for Martin's family, but it also wouldn't be a slam dunk for Zimmerman in the way the criminal trial was.

What he said was two things. (1) In FL civil court, its loser pays and (2) In FL, a successful self-defense case, like Zimmerman, is automatically immune, so its simply not going to happen.

See my other response - the mere fact that he was found not guilty after raising a self defense argument does not automatically make him immune. He'd have to seek immunity if and when he is sued. Even O'Mara said, during hos press conference last night, that they will seek immunity if sued.


he said they will seek and receive immunity.

Its basically a done deal. Just a formality of filling out paper work according to FL statute.
2013-07-14 03:09:37 PM  
1 votes:
Funny how it's acceptable for black people to go running to the NAACP over this verdict, but when OJ was found innocent they were celebrating and laughing in white people's faces and us white folks did not have an organization like NAACP to go running to mommy like these asshats are. Suck it up like the white people had to do for OJ. Black people always go running to someone and crying racism at the drop of the hat when they don't get their way. And then people wonder why I don't like black people.
2013-07-14 03:02:31 PM  
1 votes:
A civil rights organization is using a civil rights organization to violate the civil rights of another.

Inception or ironic?

Bonus: Zimmerman is a "colored person". They're going to advance his ass right to the gallows.
2013-07-14 02:51:51 PM  
1 votes:
Paul Blart stands his ground and Trayvon is in the ground. You wanna live thug life then don't be surprised when you get a thug's death.
2013-07-14 02:50:21 PM  
1 votes:
why did crump tell the media it was ice tea instead of watermelon juice??

because he knew that every hood rat out there would know what the watermelon juice and skittles were for.

it was 2 of the ingredients to make purple drank, all trayvon had to do was add DXM, (Dextromethorphan ) the drink is also called "lean" in some hoods.

purple drank has a PCP like effect on a person.

trayvon's twitter account talks about drinking it all the time.

this is also why the autopsy showed liver damage on trayvon at such young age.

apparently the skittles and watermelon juice were not so innocent after all
2013-07-14 02:50:18 PM  
1 votes:
25.media.tumblr.com
2013-07-14 02:47:21 PM  
1 votes:

indylaw: plmyfngr: ironic that the only thing racial about the incident were the comments made by Martin to his female friend on the phone...

Well, that and the fact that every inbred yahoo who hates Obama started passing around fake "thugged out" photos of Trayvon Martin the moment Obama said something about it.


This whole case pretty much immediately became an emotional narrative that two groups of people made up to fit what they felt the world was like. It didn't matter what the facts were, it didn't matter that Zimmerman was hispanic, or what kind of person he or Martin actually was, ZImmerman was plugged into the 'evil whitey' slot by some people, and Martin in the 'heroically oppressed african-american angel on his way to curing cancer' while others put Zimmerman in the 'heroic defender against darkies' slot, and Martin into the 'blah person ghetto thug threatening our neighborhoods'.

Few people cared what actually happened. Narratives were created out of different kinds of racism, and the two men became stand in characters. Some people wanted to see white people punished, some people wanted to see black people punished. If the races of Zimmerman and Martin were reversed, no one would be talking about this or giving a shiat.
2013-07-14 02:40:14 PM  
1 votes:
This is hilarious. Folks are unjustly flipping out just like they did 17 months ago. The ignorant just remain ignorant. What a sad bunch of humans.
2013-07-14 02:36:47 PM  
1 votes:

gfid: What are you talking about?  There weren't even any black people on the jury


So you're asserting that blacks judge guilt or innocence based on race alone?  There's no bigotry like soft bigotry.
2013-07-14 02:36:11 PM  
1 votes:
I'd love to see how long I'd be able to collect money and signatures if I had a site called NAAWP (white people).

Slightly off topic:  I find it hilarious that so many african americans who have absolutely NOTHING to do with this case are so emotional, and feel like it's their right to cry, plead, biatch, moan, complain, and/riot just because they didn't get what they want.

I didn't agree with the OJ simpson verdict, but I didn't cry on the porch of the courthouse, I didn't promise to start looting black owned businesses.

The overall picture I get from this case (and many past ones) is that black people: you are just as racist as the rest of the world. When you rally behind someone because of the color of their skin, without knowing diddly squat about the case itself... it makes you look like a bunch of ignorant assholes.

My only first hand experience of this is when I was younger we (family) witnessed an auto accident with the at fault driver being black. Other guy was white.   We stuck around and told the police what we ACTUALLY saw (first hand).    While waiting for the cops to show up, the black party had about 10 friends and or magically and very quickly show up, all crying/sobbing/and telling the cops what 'really' happened (even though they were miles from the accident when it happened)

If we want to really get on the ball with equal rights -- how about we eliminate the "united negro college fund" OR we make it socially acceptable for me to start up the "united whites only college fund".   Let's keep going -- how about we make it illegal to say the N word, or we make it socially acceptable for EVERYONE to say it (not just one group).

Ask for a few of those things and you will quickly see the people pushing the hardest actually don't give a crap about being equal at all.
2013-07-14 02:35:40 PM  
1 votes:

vartian: jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.

You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.


Are you brainwashed, brain-damaged, willfully dishonest, or just good old-fashioned stupid?
2013-07-14 02:29:50 PM  
1 votes:
17 year-old teenagers are 50% more likely to commit a murder than 28 year-old adults.

/17 year old boy
//take away all the black murderers and Hispanic murderers in Chicago, and the city would be down to about 12 murders a year (Caucasians make up 3.5% of the murderers)
2013-07-14 02:28:56 PM  
1 votes:

BravadoGT: He was a thug who sucker punched another man and tried to do worse.


You were a witness?  Why didn't you testify?
2013-07-14 02:27:59 PM  
1 votes:
Great. Now that this pathetic distraction is all over, you goddamned idiots can pay attention to what matters.

NSA

ISDAfix

LIBOR

Drop your political parties and get a farking clue.
2013-07-14 02:24:19 PM  
1 votes:
You know what the really thing is? NCAAP and Rev. Al and jesse jackson have started this whole BS again just to make money, when its White on Black its money in their pockets, when its Black on Black? Nobody looks into it here are some statistics.

Blacks make up only 12.5% of the U.S. population - yet commit nearly 40% of murders in America every yearNearly 50% of murder victims in America are black. Again - blacks make up only 12.5% of the total populationBlacks kill more members of their own race every year than do all other races in America - combined. Sadly nothing is going to change, black on black simply doesn't draw money or interest.
2013-07-14 02:22:21 PM  
1 votes:

MFAWG: Dimensio: sheep snorter: So according to the jury's moronic result of the case...... We can get out of our cars and stalk and then murder a black kid because he looked suspicious.

/Providing you are white enough, that is.
//Oh and state that when you confronted him, the kid tried to stand his ground to get your cracker ass from stalking him.
//But we all know that stand your ground is only for frightened paranoid loser white people to use.

Please reference the evidence indicating that Mr. Trayvon Martin experienced a reasonable fear of imminent death, grievous bodily injury, kidnapping or sexual assault prior to his attacking Mr. Zimmerman.

The fact that he ran away? Does that work for you?

The acquittal doesn't change what happened.


He didn't run away.  He came back.  If he had run away this wouldn't have happened.   Did you even watch the trial?  Listen to the testimony?  His girlfriend basically confirmed that Trayvon initiated the confrontation.  The only racist words testified to during this entire trial came out of the mouth of Trayvon Martin.
2013-07-14 02:20:51 PM  
1 votes:

vartian: Sue the fark out of him in civil court


I thought we usually mocked places where a burglar gets hurt while breaking into a home and ends up suing the homeowner.

This is very similar except in this case it's not a burglar it's someone who committed assault and instead of just getting hurt he got shot dead so the victim could protect himself.
2013-07-14 02:20:14 PM  
1 votes:

Kraftwerk Orange: Here's a quote from my local paper:


I saw a clip from the press conference where he said that.  I gagged.  I imagine there are a lot of angry people (especially black people) out there if they heard that.  Horribly disrespectful to some heroes of the civil rights movement.
2013-07-14 02:16:08 PM  
1 votes:

vartian: Nabb1:People need to move on.

 

He'll get right on that.


If he'd have just gone home instead of deciding to make a fuss, he'd be alive. He chose poorly.
2013-07-14 02:15:28 PM  
1 votes:

BravadoGT: vartian: BravadoGT: He was a thug who sucker punched another man and tried to do worse.  He was bangin', just like his old man, "Crippin All Time"

fark you, you disgusting piece of shiat.

Ah, the reasoned discourse of the left.  How unexpected!


Yes, and your post was the epitome of reasoned discourse. I pity you.
2013-07-14 02:13:23 PM  
1 votes:
It's a tough case for the race baiters. Zimmerman is a Hispanic guy with a Jewish name and light skin. How to keep the hate alive?

But the rave baiters keep trying. And pretty much succeed except at the trial.
2013-07-14 02:09:23 PM  
1 votes:

sheep snorter: So according to the jury's moronic result of the case...... We can get out of our cars and stalk and then murder a black kid because he looked suspicious.

/Providing you are white enough, that is.
//Oh and state that when you confronted him, the kid tried to stand his ground to get your cracker ass from stalking him.
//But we all know that stand your ground is only for frightened paranoid loser white people to use.


Zimmerman is as white as Obama....
2013-07-14 02:08:37 PM  
1 votes:

BravadoGT: He was a thug who sucker punched another man and tried to do worse.  He was bangin', just like his old man, "Crippin All Time"


fark you, you disgusting piece of shiat.
2013-07-14 02:08:34 PM  
1 votes:
First, I think George was guilty a making a bad decision that ultimately ended someone's life.  Since the courts decided he didn't violate any laws, his punishment will have to be living with the guilt for the rest of his life and being hounded by the media.

Second, who was the person involved in this that used a racial slur?  The NAACP should think carefully about trying to support a black person who demonstrated bigotry and racism, despite the fact that he's dead.
2013-07-14 02:06:56 PM  
1 votes:
So, I seem to remember the NAACP being strangely silent after the OJ trial. I don't regiment then demanding the government to pursue charges against him. Oh right, he was found not guilty, if someone is found not guilty you shouldn't pursue then for your own agenda and ... oh wait.....

The problem with the NAACP and figures like Jesse Jackson and Al Sharpton Is that while their general purpose and message is good, they really don't want to see the end of racism for that makes them irrelevant. So, what you get is all of them fanning the flames whenever they can to keep their base stirred up. It keeps them in a job and keeps them in their leadership position. It's truly a shame.
2013-07-14 02:05:16 PM  
1 votes:

Autarky: did not know that brown on black racism even existed....


Because they all look the same?
2013-07-14 02:04:32 PM  
1 votes:
NAACP site gets hacked, names and addresses of all who signed are released to the public.
Let the hilarity ensue.
2013-07-14 02:01:06 PM  
1 votes:
this case is bringing out the stupid in so many people right now that I'm starting to lose faith in man kind.

GZ shot TM, police said no evidence to charge
Crumb/Sharpton say this is racist
people want the state to bring chages and show GZ was in the wrong
state brings charges
has the burden of proof to prove that GZ acted no in self defense.
the state absolutely failed to bring any solid evidence that GZ did not act in self defense
no fact or evidence to remotely support that GZ jumped out of his car and tracked down TM to shoot him
so the jury finds him innocent, based on what the state provided
he's not guilty

you had your day in court and the evidence was not there, just because it's NOT what you want to hear don't go disregarding it all just to fit how you WANT it to be...

time to stfu and crawl back into your holes.

the racism thing is now getting to sound like the boy who cried wolf...
when I hear "oh it's racism" I yawn and look away....
2013-07-14 02:00:47 PM  
1 votes:
Yeah lets get some race baiting lawyers to suck more cash out of the Martin family.

Leave that poor family alone......stop exploiting your own people.
2013-07-14 02:00:11 PM  
1 votes:
NAACP definitely loses credibility from this.
They should be above this shiat, but no, people want vengeance.
2013-07-14 01:58:15 PM  
1 votes:
I'll start by signing a petition on how Zimmerman's rights have been under racial assault from the president on down. Where do I sign up?

The sheer race baiting and racism against Hispanics and Whites in this trial has been a national disgrace. Mind you I would find this level of racism against Blacks just as bad. The media needs to look at their behavior on this and have a serious dialogue on their role in inciting racism in this country. The entire thing is shameful.
2013-07-14 01:58:03 PM  
1 votes:

Nemo's Brother: The Muthaship: It's time for Obama to come out and say thank you to the State of Florida for going to great lengths to see that we found out for sure what happened in this case,  And then to applaud the jury for doing the right thing.  And finally to tell the NAACP (and others) to STFU.

Do you believe that will happen?


I do not.

But, it's pretty shameful if he doesn't.
2013-07-14 01:56:38 PM  
1 votes:

plmyfngr: ironic that the only thing racial about the incident were the comments made by Martin to his female friend on the phone...


THIS all day everyday until people actually watch or read about the trial they are so outraged about
2013-07-14 01:56:33 PM  
1 votes:
Someone sure wants Z-man to be raped in a rapeatorium.
2013-07-14 01:56:29 PM  
1 votes:
Next they'll go after Zimmerman for taxes...
2013-07-14 01:53:26 PM  
1 votes:

BunkyBrewman: He was found not guilty by a jury of his peers.

/yes, it's that simple regardless of one's feelings on the case


Quoting for anybody who might have missed this.
2013-07-14 12:55:15 PM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: Lionel Mandrake: if you end up in a scuffle with someone in FL, kill them and claim you felt your life was in danger.

If you end up in a scuffle in FL, your life is in danger.


Maybe.  It might be wise for people to avoid acting in ways that increase the likelihood of a scuffle occurring.
2013-07-14 12:49:56 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: I was comparing the emotions of the party that felt justice was not served.


Which is silly. We shouldn't even acknowledge people who think the LEGAL system, full of LAWS, is there to serve EMOTIONAL justice.

If justice is not being met by the LAWS, maybe one could possibly try and talk to LAWMAKERS? Maybe get some new LAWS? Just a thought.
2013-07-14 12:48:38 PM  
1 votes:

Lionel Mandrake: if you end up in a scuffle with someone in FL, kill them and claim you felt your life was in danger.


If you end up in a scuffle in FL, your life is in danger.
2013-07-14 12:47:08 PM  
1 votes:

doglover: Totally opposite cases.


I wasn't comparing the cases, I was comparing the emotions of the party that felt justice was not served.

The jury reached the right verdict.  When only two people know what actually happened, and one is dead, and the law is written as it is, the verdict is a foregone conclusion.

Just remember that if you end up in a scuffle with someone in FL, kill them and claim you felt your life was in danger.
2013-07-14 12:33:59 PM  
1 votes:

The Muthaship: He's immune from civil liability if they found him not guilty based on self defense.

That won't stop that moron Crump from filing though.


How the hell did Crump become a lawyer anyway?
2013-07-14 11:48:23 AM  
1 votes:

Adolf Oliver Nipples: Is this how it's gonna be? Just keep throwing charges at him until something sticks?


America: all the justice you can afford.
2013-07-14 11:26:41 AM  
1 votes:

vartian: jehovahs witness protection: Race baiters hitting up race baiters to race bait.

You are a callous idiot every other day so I guess today is just par for the course.

That said, I won't sign it either - killing someone is a crime, but I don't see how constitutional rights factor in here. Zimmerman did murder Trayvon due to paranoia and a sense of entitlement, and he is certainly a racist, but that is not clear enough to take a second shot at him for murder charges. Sue the fark out of him in civil court to the point where his every waking moment is obsessed with the amount he has to pay, sure, but I don't see how we can justify an end run at double jeopardy.

We'll just have to be content that a miserable coward who stalked and shot a tenager will be unable to live the rest of his life normally. If we are lucky, he'll also be doing it broke.


Self defense immunity in FL.

Sadly, that bastard is going to be rich, he's already made flush cash from all the "Stand Your Ground" masturbators throwing their wallet children into his defense fund.
2013-07-14 11:21:14 AM  
1 votes:
NAAColoredPeople's problems.
2013-07-14 11:16:13 AM  
1 votes:
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