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(WorldNetDaily)   The real reason Barack Obama won the 2012 presidential election is because Mitt Romney belongs to a secret cult known as "Mormonism"   (wnd.com) divider line 182
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2013-07-14 11:20:40 AM
Jesus Christ, it's been nine months and you're still butthurt about the guy YOU DIDN'T REALLY WANT ELECTED ANYWAY SO THERE AND YOU'RE NOT EVEN MAD not getting elected?
 
2013-07-14 11:28:48 AM
Okay, I know this is going to sound weird...but, even though TFA is from WorldNetDaily, it really isn't that bad.

There's some industrial strength crazy in the comments, though.
 
2013-07-14 11:29:40 AM
can somebody sum up for me?

/not giving joseph farrah a click.
 
2013-07-14 11:51:03 AM
They're still throwing out theories as to why Romney lost? Here's a theory. He sucks. That didn't take you 5 minutes to read.
 
2013-07-14 11:57:19 AM
Mormonism is probably second only to Scientology in the farking insane batshiat category.
 
2013-07-14 11:58:42 AM

eraser8: There's some industrial strength crazy in the comments, though.


You got that straight. Damn. The puerile 2nd grade nicknames for Obama alone is enough to make you think these people are functionally retarded.

"The atheists"? Like 6% of the population? And whose to say they vote democrat?

As a rule of thumb, no matter how bad the comments on Fark get, the comments section of any given article is usually 100x worse.
 
2013-07-14 11:58:57 AM
I know plenty of Mormons who have none of Romney's major faults.

His faith had nothing to do with it.

Well, other than his faith in the Prosperity Gospel, I suppose.
 
2013-07-14 12:01:07 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Mormonism is probably second only to Scientology in the farking insane batshiat category.


Jehovah's Witnesses. They're more of a cult than Mormonism. I wouldn't even really classify Mormonism as a cult.
 
2013-07-14 12:03:07 PM
America just isn't ready for a president that believes in space-gods. That's the only reason he lost.

The only reason. Seriously, stop laughing.
 
2013-07-14 12:08:50 PM
I don't know...if a Muslim atheist can win, I gotta believe religion isn't an important issue to most voters.
 
2013-07-14 12:13:55 PM
Is it just me, or is every WND article really just an advertisement for a book?
 
2013-07-14 12:19:01 PM

Facetious_Speciest: America just isn't ready for a president that believes in space-gods.


Exodus 19: The Lord said to Moses, "I am going to come to you in a dense cloud, so that the people will hear me speaking with you and will always put their trust in you." Then Moses told the Lord what the people had said... On the morning of the third day there was thunder and lightning, with a thick cloud over the mountain, and a very loud trumpet blast. Everyone in the camp trembled.Then Moses led the people out of the camp to meet with God, and they stood at the foot of the mountain.Mount Sinai was covered with smoke, because the Lord descended on it in fire. The smoke billowed up from it like smoke from a furnace, and the whole mountain trembled violently.As the sound of the trumpet grew louder and louder, Moses spoke and the voice of God answered him.  The Lord descended to the top of Mount Sinai and called Moses to the top of the mountain. So Moses went up and the  Lord said to him, "Go down and warn the people so they do not force their way through to see the  Lord and many of them perish.Even the priests, who approach the  Lord, must consecrate themselves, or the  Lord will break out against them."

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This has been pointed out before, but the encounter at Sinai in the Exodus story reads pretty much exactly how you would expect a nomadic tribe at that time and place to describe a UFO.
 
2013-07-14 12:22:44 PM
Somacandra

This has been pointed out before, but the encounter at Sinai in the Exodus story reads pretty much exactly how you would expect a nomadic tribe at that time and place to describe a UFO.

I'm sure you're aware, but that's not the only UFOy stuff in that stream of mythology, either.

I think there should be a Stargate religion. Might be closer to the truth.
 
2013-07-14 12:42:27 PM
The real reason that Barack Obama won the 2012 Presidential election is because Mitt Romney let the secret slip that he is actually Mitt Romney.
 
2013-07-14 12:46:02 PM
yeah...you guys are right - it was ENTIRELY due to Romney's Mormon beliefs.  the fact that he was a rich, out of touch, greedy vulture capitalist had NOTHING to do with it all!

ye gods people...
 
2013-07-14 12:48:45 PM

Mugato: "The atheists"? Like 6% of the population? And whose to say they vote democrat?


I would say the majority, simply cause of the religious right takeover of the GOP...

But I do in fact know a Pagan Teabagger, so there are always the curve killers.
 
2013-07-14 12:58:50 PM

baka-san: Mugato: "The atheists"? Like 6% of the population? And whose to say they vote democrat?

I would say the majority, simply cause of the religious right takeover of the GOP...

But I do in fact know a Pagan Teabagger, so there are always the curve killers.


I used to know a lot of atheist Republicans.  All but one are now either dead, or not Republican anymore.
 
2013-07-14 01:00:19 PM
It's almost as if people didn't want to vote their douchey boss into the White House.
 
2013-07-14 01:01:55 PM

baka-san: Mugato: "The atheists"? Like 6% of the population? And whose to say they vote democrat?

I would say the majority, simply cause of the religious right takeover of the GOP...

But I do in fact know a Pagan Teabagger, so there are always the curve killers.



Alright but still 6% (or whatever that is, that's the estimate). Come on.


But I do in fact know a Pagan Teabagger, so there are always the curve killers.

A Pagan who doesn't want to pay taxes? I suppose that's possible. I've known some pagan girls in my day but I never knew their stance on taxes, never asked.
 
2013-07-14 01:21:59 PM
The reason that Romney lost was that he was out of touch, he had sh*tty policy planks in the platform, he chose perhaps the douchiest of running mates, and ran a campaign that was out of touch.

He was chosen, because he was well known for sliding campaign cash to the right people. Romney was never going to win. The field was piss poor, and while there were a few contenders to make it look like a horse race, it was not about winning the office. Romney isn't exactly well liked in the GOP, and sacrificing an asshat who makes other Republicans feel uncomfortable was sort of win-win. Yes, he was there, he had a record as a Governor, and him losing, after trying to get on the ticket in the last go around, takes him off the table, save as a fundraiser, which he IS good at. He is very good at manipulating cash, and reminding him of this role was important for the party.

Winning? Against the President who got HCR through, and actually got OBL? That was a pipe dream only for the rubes. Romney running was not about winning, it was about narrative and keeping money flowing to the RNC's coffers and keeping the faithful engaged and feeling like they were doing something. Romney was always about distraction. Not quite in the same fashion as Palin, but they're close in that they have no official role in the government, they are good at getting cash out, and to the right people. They are useful. Not winners. Romney was never supposed to win, he was just a place card holder, and while the rubes may have thought he had a chance, I don't believe for a single moment that anyone in leadership positions either wanted him in, nor did they really believe that he had a chance. He wasn't falling on his sword for the good of the party, but he was just a place holder to give the illusion that there was a reason to give money to the party and the campaign. It was about cash. Plain and simple. The same as Zig Ziglar's motivational talks, it was about parting rubes from their wallets.

Breakdowns to the reason he lost? That is to keep folks from realizing that the party had actually very little interest in the Presidency, this time around. Their focus was on Congressional races. It still is. All it did was set a narrative that could be capitalized on to make gains in Congress, and keep the party alive at the State level and to keep folks fired up, and keeping their wallets open to "the cause" which Romney has never exactly been a strict adherent to. He is, at his heart, a guy who slides cash to the right folks, and his campaign was dedicated to exactly that. Winning? What the Hells would Romney do if he won? That's a lot of work, and work is not what Romney really wants. Not that kind. Glory? Yup, he likes that, but he likes money a lot more, and his failed runs were more about putting cash into the right pockets, and getting his end after the race. The gnashing of teeth, like this article? It's rationalization by the rubes, who still believe, even in the face of the awful truth before them.
 
2013-07-14 01:32:08 PM
I doubt that, on balance, Romney's faith helped his campaign. But I doubt just as strongly that it made enough of difference to change the outcome.
 
2013-07-14 01:33:49 PM

hubiestubert: The reason that Romney lost was that he was out of touch, he had sh*tty policy planks in the platform, he chose perhaps the douchiest of running mates, and ran a campaign that was out of touch.

He was chosen, because he was well known for sliding campaign cash to the right people. Romney was never going to win. The field was piss poor, and while there were a few contenders to make it look like a horse race, it was not about winning the office. Romney isn't exactly well liked in the GOP, and sacrificing an asshat who makes other Republicans feel uncomfortable was sort of win-win. Yes, he was there, he had a record as a Governor, and him losing, after trying to get on the ticket in the last go around, takes him off the table, save as a fundraiser, which he IS good at. He is very good at manipulating cash, and reminding him of this role was important for the party.

Winning? Against the President who got HCR through, and actually got OBL? That was a pipe dream only for the rubes. Romney running was not about winning, it was about narrative and keeping money flowing to the RNC's coffers and keeping the faithful engaged and feeling like they were doing something. Romney was always about distraction. Not quite in the same fashion as Palin, but they're close in that they have no official role in the government, they are good at getting cash out, and to the right people. They are useful. Not winners. Romney was never supposed to win, he was just a place card holder, and while the rubes may have thought he had a chance, I don't believe for a single moment that anyone in leadership positions either wanted him in, nor did they really believe that he had a chance. He wasn't falling on his sword for the good of the party, but he was just a place holder to give the illusion that there was a reason to give money to the party and the campaign. It was about cash. Plain and simple. The same as Zig Ziglar's motivational talks, it was about parting rubes from their wallets.

Breakdown ...


For some stupid reason, I've been reading the Trayvon/Zimmerman threads, which made this reasonable, intelligent post stand out all the more.
 
2013-07-14 01:34:04 PM

FloydA: The real reason that Barack Obama won the 2012 Presidential election is because Mitt Romney let the secret slip that he is actually Mitt Romney.


Aaaaand that's why I have you favorited in a pleasant sea-green color. I miss your contributions in the evolution threads (haven't seen too many juicy ones in a while...)
 
2013-07-14 01:34:54 PM

Mugato: They're still throwing out theories as to why Romney lost? Here's a theory. He sucks. That didn't take you 5 minutes to read.


Yeah, I don't understand how hard it is to figure out that just sucked at the whole running for POTUS thing. That's really amazing when you consider he prepared for almost 10 years.
 
2013-07-14 01:37:56 PM
The fact that Romney got so many votes convinced me that a significant percentage of Americans are Republicans, not Christians. As to the sect they REALLY belong to.
 
2013-07-14 01:38:10 PM
He belongs to a cult, but it's much more exclusive than that.  And their god is the American God.
 
2013-07-14 01:38:15 PM
That's  a reason, but it's definitely not the only one, and arguably not the most important or impactful one.
 
2013-07-14 01:40:39 PM
FTA:
"There is no evidence that Romney's Mormon faith would prevent rank-and-file Republicans, including white evangelicals, from coalescing around him if he wins the GOP nomination," the executive summary of the Pew report read. "Rather, the same Republicans who may have doubts about Romney's faith are among the most vehement opponents of Barack Obama. Fully 91% of white evangelical Republican voters say they would back Romney over Obama in a general election matchup, and 79% would support Romney strongly. Overall, white evangelicals would be among the strongest Romney supporters if he is the GOP nominee challenging Obama next fall."

I stopped reading at that point.

/Pointless book advertisement is pointless.
 
2013-07-14 01:41:19 PM
I thought Romney lost because Obama was giving poor people free "stuff."

I thought it was also because of that secret camera guy at the fundraiser who put out all that unedited video totally out of context to make Romney look like a plutocrat.

I also thought it was because DC Comics named their super-bad villain Bane in 1993, then waited until the 2012 election to put him in a movie smearing the guy who built Bain Capital.

Jeez rethuglicans, you make it so hard to keep your narrative straight.
 
2013-07-14 01:41:45 PM
Romney lost with the utterance of two words.

"Please, continue."
 
2013-07-14 01:42:18 PM

acefox1: I thought Romney lost because Obama was giving poor people free "stuff."

I thought it was also because of that secret camera guy at the fundraiser who put out all that unedited video totally out of context to make Romney look like a plutocrat.

I also thought it was because DC Comics named their super-bad villain Bane in 1993, then waited until the 2012 election to put him in a movie smearing the guy who built Bain Capital.

Jeez rethuglicans, you make it so hard to keep your narrative straight.


They keep their talking points fluid because they're so easily rebutted.
 
2013-07-14 01:42:26 PM
C'mon, we all know the real reason Romney lost was that he wasn't conservative enough! That's why the silent majority of Real Conservatives sat the election out!
 
2013-07-14 01:44:33 PM

Mugato: AdolfOliverPanties: Mormonism is probably second only to Scientology in the farking insane batshiat category.

Jehovah's Witnesses. They're more of a cult than Mormonism. I wouldn't even really classify Mormonism as a cult.


A known con man who had been arrested before for fraud, says he was told by an angel, with the "Johnny Dangerously" sounding name of Moroni,  the location of some engraved copper plates with the word of God on them.  And only Smith would be able to decipher them.  Said engravings said that marrying numerous underage girls is okay, some kinds of underwear is magic, God lives on a planet called Kolob and each believer will get their own planet after death, black skin is a sign of a sinner (later repealed,) and there are secret handshakes to get into heaven. Upon the original "prophet's" death, a new one was miraculously found, and then another, and another; sixteen in all so far, all older white men.

But it isn't a cult?

Agree about Jehovah's Witnesses though.
 
2013-07-14 01:46:08 PM
I'd guess the same bigots who would stay home because Mitt's a Mormon would turn out just to vote against Obama. Pure speculation, tho.
 
2013-07-14 01:48:59 PM
Well, he won the Republican Primaries. Why are the republicans complaining about the guy they voted for being a weak candidate?
 
2013-07-14 01:52:15 PM
Well we re-elected a Muslim President.
 
2013-07-14 01:53:01 PM

Mugato: AdolfOliverPanties: Mormonism is probably second only to Scientology in the farking insane batshiat category.

Jehovah's Witnesses. They're more of a cult than Mormonism. I wouldn't even really classify Mormonism as a cult.


None of them are really that much nuttier than mainstream Christianity.

It's just we're USED to mainstream Christianity's nuttiness, as it's been shaping our society for 1500 years.
 
2013-07-14 01:53:06 PM
At least they've moved on to blaming Romney and not the system, fraud, moochers wanting handouts, etc.  This is a positive development.  It was pretty obvious that Romney was the Republican John Kerry over a year ago.
 
2013-07-14 01:53:32 PM
I predict that on the eve of the 2016 president election, Republicans or their media mouthpieces will STILL be analyzing the election of 2012 and why they lost it.

This will serve the Democrats' purpose of reminding people all over again why the GOP has become a really stupid and mean political party.
 
2013-07-14 01:54:52 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: But it isn't a cult?


No.
A cult isn't defined by weird beliefs in and of themselves.
 
2013-07-14 01:55:09 PM

hubiestubert: I don't believe for a single moment that anyone in leadership positions either wanted him in, nor did they really believe that he had a chance.


Karl Rove really seemed to believe.
 
2013-07-14 01:55:40 PM

WippitGuud: Romney lost with the utterance of two words.

"Please, continue."


I believe it was "proceed"
 
2013-07-14 01:56:03 PM

Arachnophobe: C'mon, we all know the real reason Romney lost was that he wasn't conservative enough! That's why the silent majority of Real Conservatives sat the election out!


Heee! A silent Real Conservative? Do they make enough ball gags?
 
2013-07-14 01:58:00 PM

AdolfOliverPanties: Mormonism is probably second only to Scientology in the farking insane batshiat category.


*Shrug* To me, they're all equally nuts. Catholicism: transubstantiation, miracles, demonic possession. That shiat's no crazier than seer stones.
 
2013-07-14 01:58:44 PM

WippitGuud: Romney lost with the utterance of two words.

"Please, continue proceed."


FTFY
 
2013-07-14 01:58:50 PM
I mean "no less crazy than seer stones."
 
2013-07-14 01:59:04 PM
My Christian Republican relatives assured me from precisely August of 2012 to November 7, 2012 that Mitt Romney was indeed a Christian.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:06 PM
You Romney supporters just need to accept the fact that he sandbagged himself. He couldn't defeat a sitting President who did not keep a lot of his campaign promises and couldn't improve the economy so much, though it grew sluggishly. Hell Romney even won the first debate but could not build on that. In fact in the following debates Romney came off poorly, like a bully.

I always believed Romney had a great chance to win the election, but he blew it.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:49 PM
Clicked the link for one bit of missing information in the thread

"What Went Wrong," best-selling author Jerome Corsi

What I thought
 
2013-07-14 02:01:04 PM

eraser8: Okay, I know this is going to sound weird...but, even though TFA is from WorldNetDaily, it really isn't that bad.

There's some industrial strength crazy in the comments, though.


Nah.  No thanks.  Still not worth the click.
 
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