IamKaiserSoze!!!: Daily Kos is still a thing?
born_yesterday: LarryDan43: Projection. Because the average Republican had no problem with what Bush was doing regarding spying, they now don't think the average Democrat has a problem with what Obama is doing.This. I haven't heard a single person say that this spying is acceptable regardless of the administration.I can't hear the voices in Subby's head, so they don't count.
StoPPeRmobile: It's hard to toss aside all the crap you were told as a child. Commies are evil. They put up walls. They spy on their populace.
Corvus: Monkeyhouse Zendo: StoPPeRmobile: Automobiles have killed close to that, I call BS.On the "killed by guns" figure? It's pretty close to the actual figure when you count the total number of deaths where a firearm is involved. Now a lot of people like to distinguish between suicide, homicide, accident, etc and there are grounds for doing that but in terms of death by firearm regardless of motive, the 300K figure is pretty spot on.Not sure why suicides don't count. Many of those suicides would have probably not happened if it wasn't so easy for the victim to kill them selves by using a gun. They are the number 1 cause of suicides for a reason. Because they are easy and quick for people to use.
FlashHarry: the NSA has been spying on us since the NSA came into existence. if you think otherwise, you're deluded.
firefly212: AtlanticCoast63: Honestly not trolling, but saw this:Since that day(Sept 11, 2001- AC63), over 300,000 Americans have died from guns.Now, we have lost - according to the Department of Defense - a bit over 6000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines since that day in the GWOT. This guy is actually saying that here in the states, FIFTY TIMES that have been killed by guns? Citation needed, please./ONE unnecessary death by guns is too manyIt is pretty basic math, we get about 32k gun deaths a year, and 9/11/01 was more than ten years ago./the statistic is a bit... unfair though, I mean if two homicidal guys both have guns and a drug deal goes bad and one shoots the other, it's not necessarily fair to say he died because of the gun.
AtlanticCoast63: Honestly not trolling, but saw this:Since that day(Sept 11, 2001- AC63), over 300,000 Americans have died from guns.Now, we have lost - according to the Department of Defense - a bit over 6000 soldiers, sailors, airmen, and Marines since that day in the GWOT. This guy is actually saying that here in the states, FIFTY TIMES that have been killed by guns? Citation needed, please./ONE unnecessary death by guns is too many
ginandbacon: Did Subbyand I read the same article?
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