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2013-07-14 07:25:43 AM
That was pretty awesome.
 
2013-07-14 07:44:22 AM
He certainly didn't enjoy it, but no question the raven stuck it out. Pretty amazing stuff.
 
2013-07-14 09:35:44 AM
That was pretty cool.

/Someone needs to smack the daughter. Sideways.
 
2013-07-14 10:03:33 AM
Animals aren't as stupid as we tend to think they are. Wasn't there a story a little while ago about a fox that sought out some hikers in Russia because its head was stuck in a jar?
 
hej
2013-07-14 10:05:12 AM
Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools
 
2013-07-14 10:10:01 AM

hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools


Yeah, he's probably smart enough to nevermore fark with porcupines.
 
2013-07-14 10:11:08 AM

toraque: hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools

Yeah, he's probably smart enough to nevermore fark with porcupines.


I lol'd.
 
2013-07-14 10:16:01 AM

hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools


FTA:

The common raven is a super smart bird...
 
2013-07-14 10:16:03 AM
Jake needs to stick with Grub Worms from now on.
 
2013-07-14 10:18:42 AM
Quote that raven, "Thanks, you whore!"
 
2013-07-14 10:20:30 AM
sno man: That was pretty cool.
 
/Someone needs to smack the daughter. Sideways.

I laughed when the one off-screen said "Are you taping this?"

/Oh my God.
 
2013-07-14 10:20:41 AM

hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools


They also can talk.
 
2013-07-14 10:26:58 AM
Maybe Ms. Androcles could hold her cell phone correctly next time.
 
2013-07-14 10:27:37 AM
"Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.
 
2013-07-14 10:31:07 AM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood,


You live in a shiatty neighborhood. You should move.
 
2013-07-14 10:32:37 AM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.


Jesus man. You either live in a shiatty neighborhood or like to save strokes with a WIDE brush.
 
2013-07-14 10:35:15 AM

ginandbacon: That was pretty awesome.


X2
 
2013-07-14 10:37:05 AM
Ravens are so smart one taught me the Alekhine Defense as an opening move in chess. Hopped onto the board and moved my Knight to Nf6.

Then took my Knight right off the board and I've never seen it again.
 
2013-07-14 10:43:47 AM

Mister Peejay: hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools

FTA:

The common raven is a super smart bird...


Very true. I once pulled porcupine quills out of Joe Flacco's ass.
 
2013-07-14 10:46:54 AM

Odoriferous Queef: ginandbacon: That was pretty awesome.

X2


OMG your handle! Bwahahahahahahahaha!!!!
 
2013-07-14 10:49:42 AM
GIS for Wild Raven:

www.theblindcard.com

Alexis Raven
 
2013-07-14 10:53:17 AM

Peki: Animals aren't as stupid as we tend to think they are. Wasn't there a story a little while ago about a fox that sought out some hikers in Russia because its head was stuck in a jar?


I bet the raven would have been smart enough to turn the camera.
 
2013-07-14 10:54:57 AM

chaddsfarkprefect: Maybe Ms. Androcles could hold her cell phone correctly next time.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NtQWp_31wuI&feature=share
 
2013-07-14 10:58:59 AM
Ima4nic8or: You are a moran...
 
2013-07-14 11:05:26 AM
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2013-07-14 11:06:59 AM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.


You should move to a better trailer park.
 
2013-07-14 11:07:40 AM

sno man: That was pretty cool.

/Someone needs to smack the daughter. Sideways.


Someone needs to smack the son; he's the one who seemed to want to leave it alone instead of help it. Filming this was a good idea and she handled it well.
 
2013-07-14 11:12:42 AM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.


The problem isn't "dog-owners" it's that we let any asshole off the street have a pet. I'm more of a cat person myself, and there are just as many jerks who neglect, mis-treat, and refuse to train their cats. Dumb, lazy, mean people will always raise their pets to be a problem, and it's difficult to think of how we'd stop that other than doing something extreme and big-govermenty like issuing pet licenses.
 
2013-07-14 11:15:30 AM

Heron: sno man: That was pretty cool.

/Someone needs to smack the daughter. Sideways.

Someone needs to smack the son; he's the one who seemed to want to leave it alone instead of help it. Filming this was a good idea and she handled it well.


filming[?] this sideways would have been a better idea.
 
2013-07-14 11:20:51 AM

toraque: hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools

Yeah, he's probably smart enough to nevermore fark with porcupines.


Thanks, I almost spit out my tea.
 
2013-07-14 11:27:06 AM
There was the fox that approached some hikers because it had a glass jar on its head and let them remove it and a year or so ago there was the dolphin with fishing wire stuck in its mouth and fin that approached some divers so they could remove it. I guess some animals are smart enough to work out when the potential risk of approaching a human is outweighed by the actual threat of something that has happened to them. Who knows, maybe the bible story of the lion with the thorns in its paw had some basis in fact?

/Still doesn't mean anything else in it is true.
 
2013-07-14 11:29:34 AM
I once tried the same with a cougar, but she burned me with her cigarette.
 
2013-07-14 11:33:29 AM
There is a raven in the Munich Zoo that will say 'Arschloch' on occasion. He will eat out of my hand if I have a boiled egg or pretzel. My wife says her father had one for a pet and my Great Grandfather had one in the house in a cage and it talked like a parrot.

/CSB
 
2013-07-14 11:36:23 AM
From the animal rescue league FAQ:
Step 3: The baby is alone and running up to people
If you find a single baby squirrel alone and it is running up to people, please call the
Center for instructions. He has likely been separated from his mother and needs help.


Even baby squirrels will ask humans for help apparently.
 
2013-07-14 11:41:39 AM
Ah -hah! So that is how a raven is like a writing-desk!

They both have quills!
 
2013-07-14 11:42:02 AM
"Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Nope.

Our dogs, however, bark at the garbage truck guys when they come buy once a week. Been living in the same place for almost 16 years now and it never fails. You'd think they'd have gotten used to it by now (our dogs I mean).

/lives in a semi-rural area
//doesn't have to worry too much about neighbors
 
2013-07-14 11:43:43 AM
images3.wikia.nocookie.net

Reason the neighbors dog may be barking at you.
 
2013-07-14 11:54:42 AM

jayphat: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x479]

Reason the neighbors dog may be barking at you.


You know, looking at that guy's orbital ridges, I'll bet he has NO peripheral vision whatsoever.  If you have to kill him, just sneak up to him from the side; he'll never see you coming.
 
2013-07-14 12:24:39 PM
My neighbor's dog is bored. So are my dogs. They bark at anything that moves, because.
 
2013-07-14 12:48:47 PM
Wild Raven convinces woman to pull quills.

/Fixed that for you.
//Because thats accurate.
 
2013-07-14 12:56:19 PM
I hope that watching this video with the window open hasn't damaged my relationship with the crows outside my house. A couple of them started distress-calling during the video. Might have been coincidence, but I wouldn't be at all surprised if they knew that there was some painful shiat going down.
 
2013-07-14 01:08:24 PM

skinink: Quote that raven, "Thanks, you whore!"


LOL. The only remotely E. A. Poe reference in the thread.
 
2013-07-14 01:32:02 PM
Sounds like my wife when I pull my quill out!
 
2013-07-14 01:40:35 PM
One measure of intelligence is the ability for the frontal lobe to override the "get the fark outta here" signals from the hindbrain. That raven couldn't help but display the stereotypical aggression behavior of a wounded animal (open mouth, loud noises, pecking feints), but it was able to tamp them down because it knew a little pain from the human pulling the quills out would result in no more quills.

There's a funny story in one of Jane Goodall's books about this. Chimps make instinctual "there food here!" calls when they find a stash, so the other chimps come running. One chimp figured to clamp his hand over his mouth to muffle these calls, so when he found a cache of bananas left by Goodall he'd get to eat them all himself.
 
2013-07-14 01:44:19 PM
"And the worst part about it is my only hope for salvation is a human being!"

/Quark the raven
//nevermore
 
2013-07-14 01:44:44 PM

Clemkadidlefark: Ravens are so smart one taught me the Alekhine Defense as an opening move in chess. Hopped onto the board and moved my Knight to Nf6.

Then took my Knight right off the board and I've never seen it again.


Lol!
 
2013-07-14 01:48:46 PM

Heron: sno man: That was pretty cool.

/Someone needs to smack the daughter. Sideways.

Someone needs to smack the son; he's the one who seemed to want to leave it alone instead of help it. Filming this was a good idea and she handled it well.


This.  Ravens are magnificent creatures.  I'd be super stoked to get to be the person to help like that.
 
2013-07-14 01:52:19 PM

theorellior: One measure of intelligence is the ability for the frontal lobe to override the "get the fark outta here" signals from the hindbrain. That raven couldn't help but display the stereotypical aggression behavior of a wounded animal (open mouth, loud noises, pecking feints), but it was able to tamp them down because it knew a little pain from the human pulling the quills out would result in no more quills.

There's a funny story in one of Jane Goodall's books about this. Chimps make instinctual "there food here!" calls when they find a stash, so the other chimps come running. One chimp figured to clamp his hand over his mouth to muffle these calls, so when he found a cache of bananas left by Goodall he'd get to eat them all himself.


The test of the Gom Jabbar. The distinction between animal and human is the ability to override instinct.
 
2013-07-14 01:54:15 PM

ciberido: jayphat: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x479]

Reason the neighbors dog may be barking at you.

You know, looking at that guy's orbital ridges, I'll bet he has NO peripheral vision whatsoever.  If you have to kill him, just sneak up to him from the side; he'll never see you coming.


Faulty conclusion: that species may not be as visually reliant as we are. Bad vision, but might make up for it with better hearing or smell.

/has said hello to people before she's seen them because of the perfume. .  . Or lack thereof.
 
2013-07-14 02:07:54 PM
She clearly doesn't know how to properly remove quills. They have barbs, so pulling them straight out hurts more. You're supposed to twist them out.
 
2013-07-14 02:17:09 PM
Neighbor found a farked up, hurt, wounded, raven in his front yard.  It was part of a group of 5-6 that had marked our houses as their territory and were always hanging out begging food from my neighbor and me.  The hurt one was on the grass surrounded by his mates, and they would aggressively move towards any person who tried to investigate.  When my neighbor decided to have a look, they opened a path to let him check out the hurt one.

Long story short, the vet wanted to euthanize the bird, but my neighbor came up with some cash and the vet amputated the bird's crushed wing.  Bird now lives on my neighbor's patio with his parrots, and his raven buddies still visit every day.
 
2013-07-14 02:29:30 PM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.


I was thinking about asking why you woke up so grumpy.

Then I thought about all the bike paths around here littered with dog crap from their owners walking/jogging/biking with them.

/Not a dog guy but have known some great ones.
 
2013-07-14 02:37:53 PM

Turbo Cojones: Neighbor found a farked up, hurt, wounded, raven in his front yard.  It was part of a group of 5-6 that had marked our houses as their territory and were always hanging out begging food from my neighbor and me.  The hurt one was on the grass surrounded by his mates, and they would aggressively move towards any person who tried to investigate.  When my neighbor decided to have a look, they opened a path to let him check out the hurt one.

Long story short, the vet wanted to euthanize the bird, but my neighbor came up with some cash and the vet amputated the bird's crushed wing.  Bird now lives on my neighbor's patio with his parrots, and his raven buddies still visit every day.


...my faith in animalality and humanity has been restored...
 
2013-07-14 02:43:36 PM

Turbo Cojones: Neighbor found a farked up, hurt, wounded, raven in his front yard.  It was part of a group of 5-6 that had marked our houses as their territory and were always hanging out begging food from my neighbor and me.  The hurt one was on the grass surrounded by his mates, and they would aggressively move towards any person who tried to investigate.  When my neighbor decided to have a look, they opened a path to let him check out the hurt one.

Long story short, the vet wanted to euthanize the bird, but my neighbor came up with some cash and the vet amputated the bird's crushed wing.  Bird now lives on my neighbor's patio with his parrots, and his raven buddies still visit every day.


Your friend saved them the cost of a raven funeral, which they would actually have held if the bird had died. All the ravens from miles around come to say their goodbyes to a dead bird. I'm not necessarily sure they're mourning, but whatever it is, it's really fascinating.
 
2013-07-14 02:45:48 PM
Ravens are neat. We had one that visited our back porch when I was a little kid, and we gave him bites of hot dog while trying to persuade him to say 'nevermore.' (We were not the most creative children, my siblings and I.) Eventually, my little sister was home with a summer cold for some days and managed to consistently train him.

Problem was, for YEARS afterward the people in the area reported this creepy-as-fark raven who would sidle up to a human and remark "Nevermore?" in this cheerful, squeaky little girl's voice. It was apparently terrifying, and yet, kind of awesome.
 
2013-07-14 02:57:14 PM

SpiderQueenDemon: Problem was, for YEARS afterward the people in the area reported this creepy-as-fark raven who would sidle up to a human and remark "Nevermore?" in this cheerful, squeaky little girl's voice. It was apparently terrifying, and yet, kind of awesome.


Hahaha, that's awesome.
 
2013-07-14 03:06:27 PM

Ima4nic8or: "Meanwhile your neighbor's dog still barks every time you take out the trash."

Truer word were never spoken.  They should train their damn animals not to bark or they should keep the things inside.

Why are dog owners such irresponsible assclowns?  They let their dogs shiat all over the place and don't pick it up, fail leash the things and let them run wild about the neighborhood, when their dog lunges at some 5 year old riding his bike by they say "oh, don't worry, he wouldn't harm a fly", even when the dog is quite clearly about to take a bite out of the kid.  On the sad occasion that their dog bites someone they moronically continue to say their dog is harmless and must have been provoked.  Dog owners are among the most lazy, irresponsible, moronic folks on the planet.  I wish I could say this applies only the gangbanger types who seem to think having a pit bull makes their cawk bigger but unfortunately every dog owner seems to be afflicted, even those that look like sane, rational people.


Awww...isn't that cute? Ima4nic8or is trying to sound like a grown-up. Isn't that just precious? Lemme guess. Your mom's not home and she left her laptop on.

/farking parental controls
//how do they work?
 
2013-07-14 03:07:50 PM
Nice job woman. You pull out the porcupine quills...and then poison the crow to death at the very end by force-feeding it Dictostelium amarillo. Nice jorbs.
 
2013-07-14 03:11:31 PM
Ravens ARE smart... but for what its worth i have a suspition that magpies are the most brilliant of the birds... They are annoying as hell and if you pay attention to what they are doing you notice they are incredibly smart. I saw a pair tease our cat growing up -- one would hop lazily on the lawn in front of our kitty and goad him into getting pouncy. The other magpie would swoop down behind the cat and hop up behind it and when the cat was completely distracted the magpie would peck him right on the tail.

They could recognize guns and would disappear every time you took one outside.

They are mean buggers sometimes -- but smart. The best way to get rid of ravens or magpies is to kill a few in traps and then nail their corpse to a tall post or a tree. They get freaked out and leave the area.

(one must get rid of them -- they will hop onto the back of a sheep and peck fist sized wounds in living animals that cant defend themselves -- or they will break into garbage cans and spew it all over your yard. Or they will eat all the dogs food every freaking day.)
 
2013-07-14 03:49:34 PM

Mystery Vortex: She clearly doesn't know how to properly remove quills. They have barbs, so pulling them straight out hurts more. You're supposed to twist them out.


A quick google search implies otherwise.  Citation?
 
2013-07-14 04:19:39 PM

mikefinch: one must get rid of them -- they will hop onto the back of a sheep and peck fist sized wounds in living animals that cant defend themselves -- or they will break into garbage cans and spew it all over your yard.


That sounds more like a kea parrot

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gRW4ztbY8Ok

/Little bastiges are brilliant
//and pesky
 
2013-07-14 04:29:19 PM
Thank you, subby. That was great.
 
2013-07-14 04:34:47 PM
I wonder if to certain intelligent animals, humans are the most capricious things on the planet. They might help you if you get hurt, or they might kill you without a thought.
 
2013-07-14 06:47:22 PM
If there is reincarnation, I'd like to come back as a crow. They seem to have a pretty good grasp on things.

I also wish I had a crow as a pet that lived outside and would play when I went outside
 
2013-07-14 07:36:13 PM

sparkeyjames: skinink: Quote that raven, "Thanks, you whore!"

LOL. The only remotely E. A. Poe reference in the thread.


Um:

toraque: hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools

Yeah, he's probably smart enough to nevermore fark with porcupines.

 
2013-07-14 07:37:02 PM

Josu: Mystery Vortex: She clearly doesn't know how to properly remove quills. They have barbs, so pulling them straight out hurts more. You're supposed to twist them out.

A quick google search implies otherwise.  Citation?


Idk...corkscrew shaped quills seems perfectly reasonable to me...
 
2013-07-15 02:47:27 AM

flypusher713: hat sounds more like a kea parrot

kea parrot

/Little bastiges are brilliant
//and pesky


Kea, for when you decided you didn't need windscreen wipers anyway (they will tear off all the rubber seal).

Also, it's weird to call them "kea parrot".  That's like saying "cockatoo parrot".  Strictly speaking correct, but odd.  I guess for people not familiar with them (i.e. the vast majority of the world) it gives them an idea of what you're talking about.  Otherwise you could be talking about a kind of fish, for all they knew.
 
2013-07-15 05:10:19 AM

jayphat: [images3.wikia.nocookie.net image 850x479]

Reason the neighbors dog may be barking at you.


Is that the 'Slender Man' guy?
 
2013-07-15 05:16:44 AM
That is pretty cool.

 I encountered a newspaper from the twenties and it had an article about a raven that was playing 'fetch' with a dog.It would fly out with a twig,drop it then watch as the dog went and fetched it. I got a real chuckle out of that.
 Im kind of a softie when it comes to little beasts but I dont know if I would have had the presence of mind to help that raven.I would have given it a snack though. I hope it hangs around that womans property,maybe make a home for itself.
 
2013-07-15 05:42:52 AM

RubberBabyBuggyBumpers: Mister Peejay: hej: Ravens are actually pretty smart birds.
https://www.youtube.com/results?q=raven+using+tools

FTA:

The common raven is a super smart bird...

Very true. I once pulled porcupine quills out of Joe Flacco's ass.


Are you admitting to having gone near Joe Flacco's ass?

/some joke about Ray Lewis or something
 
2013-07-15 08:58:47 AM
I used to have an adversarial relationship with a flock of crows on my paper route.  Damn things were smart, and they knew my route as well as I did.  They would often follow me around the route making all kinds of racket.  They also knew which houses/yards where I would have limited visibility so they could swoop in and try to take a few hairs off of my head.

I had that route for five years, and it was actually a lot of fun playing around with crows every morning.  It's been well over a decade, but it wouldn't surprise me if those birds still recognized my face.
 
2013-07-15 09:54:53 AM

Flint Ironstag: Who knows, maybe the bible story of the lion with the thorns in its paw had some basis in fact?


What "the bible" may look like...

d202m5krfqbpi5.cloudfront.net
 
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