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2013-07-14 01:55:59 AM

BarkingUnicorn: shower_in_my_socks: skullkrusher: she LEFT the situation, got a farking gun and then REENTERED the situation. Stop doing a disservice to an actual problem by being a jackhole

She went into the garage of her own house to arm herself and then told her abusive husband to get the fark out before shooting a single shot into the ceiling. Give me a farking break.

It''s not like she got out of her car, tracked her husband down on a public sidewalk, and then shot him to death, right???

The trial was more than a year ago, so your memory may be faded.  The bullet went through a wall "at adult head height" and ricocheted into the ceiling.  It could just as easily have been deflected downward to strike one of the kids who were standing with their father.  And then there's this:

"But authorities, on the accounts of her husband and her two stepsons, have said it was Alexander who began the violence, "hitting on" Gray. In her arrest report, all three said she pointed the gun in their direction before the shot was fired.

"Less than five months later, Alexander was arrested, again, on a domestic battery charge involving her husband."  She punched him in the eye that time.

Hubby had two prior DV arrests.  Charges were dropped in the first case.  He got probation in the second and a protective order.  Such orders include staying away from the subject and all places he is known to frequent. Alexander violated that order by being in that home whether he was there or not, whether it was legally her residence or not.  She was ordered to stay away from him, his residence, and probably some other named places such as his workplace.

If she wanted her stuff, she could have called for police backup and gotten some acquaintances to go in and get her stuff.

The whole case reeks of crazy woman to me.  Definitely aggravated assault with a firearm and endangering children.


People that biatch about Marissa Alexander and complain that SYG doesn't apply to black people forget about Jeffrey Brown and Andrea Tyler

People that biatch about Marissa Alexander and complain that SYG doesn't apply to women or to victims of domestic violence forget about Amanda Arruda, who was the victim of a brutal domestic assault and stabbed her attacker, and was arrested for it, but was later cleared of all wrong doing in her pre-trial immunity hearing.
 
2013-07-14 01:56:04 AM

Krakaan: I don't see how people are at all confused at the verdict.
#1 Under US law the burden of proof rests on the prosecution
#2 This entire past week all the articles and commentary (I have seen linked on Fark and abroad) have been on how shoddy, terrible, and lacking of evidence the prosecution had.
#3 The manslaughter charge was a last ditch attempt to try and save face and probably made a poor impression on the jury about how confident the prosecution felt about their case. (Spoiler: Not very)

This entire case was a MURDER trial and the prosecution utterly and miserably FAILED to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

Now putting on our SPECULATION glasses, I believe if a Manslaughter charge had been pursued from the beginning knowing full well the defense was going to use the "Stand your ground" statute they could have made a much better case and Zimmerman, as much of a douche that he may be; would have wound up with either the same verdict or the community approved 5-10.

It's really NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE. Now can we discuss the most important topic of breakfast foodstuffs?

I'm voting for french toast sticks.


On very, very rare occasions, I will consume Cinnabon sticks, with icing, as a breakfast treat.
/Usually it's just a Quaker Oats granola bar.
 
2013-07-14 01:56:05 AM

skullkrusher: unless the car was parked in the farking living room, she was out of the situation.


Cool. I'll break into your house and corner you in your garage and then laugh at you because you have no legal way to defend yourself. It'll be hilarious.
 
2013-07-14 01:56:16 AM
I want some sort of turducken deal w/ pancke waffle French toast. Panfrenwafcake? With butter and warm maple syrup, please.
 
2013-07-14 01:56:28 AM

Elegy: Triumph: And here we go...

That's not Miami. I believe it's vancouver.

Don't believe everything you see on 4chin.


Amen dudes. Stop this shiat. It hurts everyone.
 
2013-07-14 01:56:39 AM
As long as we're going random...

Here, have this.

/go Tigers
 
2013-07-14 01:56:48 AM

Jabberwookiee: universebetween:

Beer > tacos > pancakes > french toast > waffles

FTFY


FTFYB
 
2013-07-14 01:56:58 AM

Treygreen13: mikeray: Treygreen13: Oldiron_79: Wittenberg Dropout: Is there an official 'Riot Watch' cam anywhere?

THIS

There's a guy on the ground in Chicago streaming. Looks like a bunch of white kids who don't know what is going on standing around awkwardly. Not violent from what I see.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/samwiseoccupies?utm_campaign=ustre-am&u t m_source=10881934&utm_medium=social">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sa mwiseoccupies?utm_campaign=ustre-am&ut m_source=10881934&utm_medium=social

That would be interesting if you could understand what the hell he was saying.

Doin' my best. Not a lot of live streams. I think he's offline now anyway.  It's just too late for a big crowd I think.


The quality of the stream was good, there was another reason i couldn't understand him.
 
2013-07-14 01:57:00 AM

Shyla: My back itches up high right between the shoulder blades where I can't reach. Suggestions for objects to use?


My penis.
 
2013-07-14 01:57:18 AM

shower_in_my_socks: Treygreen13: skullkrusher: FFS, she left the situation and REENTERED IT.

I think at some point you have to realize that  shower_in_my_socks apparently lives in an alternate reality and stop talking to him.


Yeah, this crazy alternate reality where mom's who fire warning shots against abusive husbands shouldn't go to prison for 20 farking years. Totally farking weird, right douchebag?


ya might want to look at the actual facts of the case.
particularly when she got the gun and what happened after that.
Try to get the facts from an article that presents the facts, not just a sympathy piece for the defendant.
What you will find...may shock you.
 
2013-07-14 01:57:27 AM

rhiannon: Triumph: And here we go...

And here we go with what?


My weakness: men.
 
2013-07-14 01:57:42 AM

ChaosStar: No, no they can not.


Until a Florida attorney pipes up in the thread...I don't know what to believe because the media seems to have differing opinions.
 
2013-07-14 01:57:56 AM

tenpoundsofcheese: uhhh, they did beat it with the SYG clause.
that was not used in this case.  The media made a big deal out of it, the defense didn't use it.

Seriously, did anyone watch the trial or watch any fair and balanced reporting of the case?


They could have beat murder all night long without SYG, and manslaughter with justifiable homicide? Not sure what your point is?
 
2013-07-14 01:58:05 AM

Mistymtnhop: Elegy: Mistymtnhop: Elegy: Mistymtnhop: Have you ever been a woman in an abusive relationship that just got sick of him smacking you around and maybe was so hurt and embarrassed and enraged that you might have done something that ''doesn't make sense?"

You mean, like a crime? One that endangered her children, at that?

Exactly like that.

Can't say I've ever committed a crime because I let my emotions run away with my god given sense. Is this a common thing that happens to women? I would think they would be running wild in the streets if it was.....

Yes because the action of one person in a particular group defines the norm of the entire group.


I'm unsure where you are going with this.

What are you trying to say? Please say it plainly, I can be slow at times.
 
2013-07-14 01:58:13 AM

Southern100: Delay: An armed man tracked down and killed a kid because of his skin color and the armed man disliked the kid's presence in the neighborhood..

That's not guilty in Florida!

Let's all agree, the American justice system is farked.

While the Justice System IS farked, so is your interpretation of what happened.  But since you may just be trolling, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.


OK. I will respond to your post.

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was carrying a gun?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman stalked a kid in what he felt to be his neighborhood?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman killed the kid he stalked?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was found not guilty?

Now how is the American justice system not farked?
 
2013-07-14 01:58:19 AM

torquestripe: RIOTS! Where have the riots gone?
AND BLOODLETTING! Someone has to pay with blood!
Whar is the rioting and bloodletting, whar!


Well, there appear to be blah people rioting and torching things in the little pocket universe inside Amos Quitos' skull. Out here in reality, it seems pretty quiet. There was a guy streaming from Chicago, but I think the batteries on his phone gave out or something. Most aggressive thing I saw was a guy wearing a "Fark the police"-type t-shirt. Hell, they were even waiting to cross with the light at intersections.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:07 AM
Hmmm can I revote with a Chicken and Waffles option?

Or for those who must have the best of all worlds  Chicken and French Toast sticks.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:43 AM

Treygreen13: mikeray: Treygreen13: Oldiron_79: Wittenberg Dropout: Is there an official 'Riot Watch' cam anywhere?

THIS

There's a guy on the ground in Chicago streaming. Looks like a bunch of white kids who don't know what is going on standing around awkwardly. Not violent from what I see.

http://www.ustream.tv/channel/samwiseoccupies?utm_campaign=ustre-am&u t m_source=10881934&utm_medium=social">http://www.ustream.tv/channel/sa mwiseoccupies?utm_campaign=ustre-am&ut m_source=10881934&utm_medium=social

That would be interesting if you could understand what the hell he was saying.

Doin' my best. Not a lot of live streams. I think he's offline now anyway.  It's just too late for a big crowd I think.


Yeah, the video that's playing now is just the video from earlier.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:45 AM

Treygreen13: shower_in_my_socks: Treygreen13: skullkrusher: FFS, she left the situation and REENTERED IT.

I think at some point you have to realize that  shower_in_my_socks apparently lives in an alternate reality and stop talking to him.


Yeah, this crazy alternate reality where mom's who fire warning shots against abusive husbands shouldn't go to prison for 20 farking years. Totally farking weird, right douchebag?

You're lucky I find you entertaining. Usually people who call me a douchebag go on ignore.


If that happens a lot you might want to do some soul searching.
 
2013-07-14 01:59:53 AM

Nina Haagen Dazs: This tweet just cracks me up.

Jarrett Martineau  @culturite
"America has been pronouncing itself not guilty for 500 years."


Damn, I must be old. I remember celebrating the bicentennial.


It's that wonderful public education again.
 
2013-07-14 02:00:11 AM

Delay: Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman stalked a kid


i49.tinypic.com
 
2013-07-14 02:00:29 AM

Delay: Southern100: Delay: An armed man tracked down and killed a kid because of his skin color and the armed man disliked the kid's presence in the neighborhood..

That's not guilty in Florida!

Let's all agree, the American justice system is farked.

While the Justice System IS farked, so is your interpretation of what happened.  But since you may just be trolling, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

OK. I will respond to your post.

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was carrying a gun?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman stalked a kid in what he felt to be his neighborhood?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman killed the kid he stalked?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was found not guilty?

Now how is the American justice system not farked?


Well he wasn't stalking anyone, the actual jurors who heard all of the evidence saw that yet you are regurgitating what the media has told you.
 
2013-07-14 02:00:29 AM

bluorangefyre: Is Northeast Florida being destroyed yet?  I just got in from work, but heard the about the verdict just before I left.  I mean, what other choice do they have but to riot?


I live 3 miles from the courthouse and 4 from where it happened.  Just dropped off a drunk girl on Airport blvd in Sanford.  All quiet here.

/btw, this is central fl
 
2013-07-14 02:00:54 AM

Krakaan: I don't see how people are at all confused at the verdict.
#1 Under US law the burden of proof rests on the prosecution
#2 This entire past week all the articles and commentary (I have seen linked on Fark and abroad) have been on how shoddy, terrible, and lacking of evidence the prosecution had.
#3 The manslaughter charge was a last ditch attempt to try and save face and probably made a poor impression on the jury about how confident the prosecution felt about their case. (Spoiler: Not very)

This entire case was a MURDER trial and the prosecution utterly and miserably FAILED to prove beyond a reasonable doubt that he was guilty.

Now putting on our SPECULATION glasses, I believe if a Manslaughter charge had been pursued from the beginning knowing full well the defense was going to use the "Stand your ground" statute they could have made a much better case and Zimmerman, as much of a douche that he may be; would have wound up with either the same verdict or the community approved 5-10.

It's really NOT THAT HARD PEOPLE. Now can we discuss the most important topic of breakfast foodstuffs?

I'm voting for french toast sticks.


The only thing that I will disagree with you on this one is that  Stand Your Ground was never even mentioned by the Defense.  Zimmerman's whole case revolved around a self-defense shooting.  They are two completely different sections of Florida law.  Self defense shooting means that you were actively being attacked ("Having a felony being committed upon your person") and felt you had no other options.  Stand your ground means that you are in a situation in which you fear for your life but may not be under actual physical attack.  For instance, a "gimmie your wallet" mugging where someone pulls a knife or a gun on you.  You "could" turn and try to run away at that point but with SYG you can instead pull out your pistol and shoot the mugger.

This did not happen in this case.  Instead, Zimmerman claimed self-defense after being physically attacked.  Zimmerman AND Trayvon had injuries consistent with this claim so while we don't know *everything* that happened immediately prior to the confrontation, there would be enough to give a jury pause over a guilty verdict.
 
2013-07-14 02:01:00 AM

Delay: Southern100: Delay: An armed man tracked down and killed a kid because of his skin color and the armed man disliked the kid's presence in the neighborhood..

That's not guilty in Florida!

Let's all agree, the American justice system is farked.

While the Justice System IS farked, so is your interpretation of what happened.  But since you may just be trolling, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt.

OK. I will respond to your post.

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was carrying a gun?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman stalked a kid in what he felt to be his neighborhood?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman killed the kid he stalked?

Can we agree that Mr. Zimmerman was found not guilty?

Now how is the American justice system not farked?


Because the American Justice System demands proof that people commit crimes instead of just hanging people based on assumptions.
 
2013-07-14 02:01:15 AM

shower_in_my_socks: tollbooth_willy: So...we already established that she was violating the restraining order by going to a house she didn't live at.  Now you're saying her car was in a garage that she couldn't get out of?  How'd the car get in there?

It was THEIR former house. She went there to get her shiat out. She didn't think he would be there. He showed up and saw a text on her cell from a former husband. He got pissed and started beating and strangling her. From the articles that I read, she couldn't get out of the garage. I don't know why. Maybe he parked behind her? But here's a farking idea - why don't you read about the farking case before attacking people who have?


No need to get your panties in a bunch.  It was a valid question, not an attack.
 
2013-07-14 02:02:07 AM
I am going to guess Zimmerman walks away with 10+ million of NBC's money. Good for him.
 
2013-07-14 02:02:30 AM

DoctorCal: You're lucky I find you entertaining. Usually people who call me a douchebag go on ignore.

If that happens a lot you might want to do some soul searching.


Hey, Treygreen. I put you on ignore a while ago. Go ahead and pull the trigger.
 
2013-07-14 02:03:17 AM
taste the rainbow
 
2013-07-14 02:03:53 AM

ThrobblefootSpectre: bluorangefyre: Is Northeast Florida being destroyed yet?  I just got in from work, but heard the about the verdict just before I left.  I mean, what other choice do they have but to riot?

I live 3 miles from the courthouse and 4 from where it happened.  Just dropped off a drunk girl on Airport blvd in Sanford.  All quiet here.

/btw, this is central fl


So can you stir something up? Lot of people on Fark are depending on it.
 
2013-07-14 02:03:59 AM
The only thing that I will disagree with you on this one is that  Stand Your Ground was never even mentioned by the Defense.  Zimmerman's whole case revolved around a self-defense shooting.  They are two completely different sections of Florida law.  Self defense shooting means that you were actively being attacked ("Having a felony being committed upon your person") and felt you had no other options.  Stand your ground means that you are in a situation in which you fear for your life but may not be under actual physical attack.  For instance, a "gimmie your wallet" mugging where someone pulls a knife or a gun on you.  You "could" turn and try to run away at that point but with SYG you can instead pull out your pistol and shoot the mugger.

This did not happen in this case.  Instead, Zimmerman claimed self-defense after being physically ...



Point taken, I confused the two because its late and the media are asshats who constantly mentioned SYG however replace my SYG with self defense and you still wind up with the same argument/outcome.
 
HBK
2013-07-14 02:04:00 AM

FlyingJ: Owangotang: Crowd gathered at a horse statue in Chicago, moment of silence for Trayvon with fists lifted in the air.

Reese's? Wha'happen to the Skittles?

axiomamnesia.com
Am I the only one that saw this picture and felt a little sorry for the horse? Give the reins some slack.
 
2013-07-14 02:04:07 AM

DoctorCal: Treygreen13: shower_in_my_socks: Treygreen13: skullkrusher: FFS, she left the situation and REENTERED IT.

I think at some point you have to realize that  shower_in_my_socks apparently lives in an alternate reality and stop talking to him.


Yeah, this crazy alternate reality where mom's who fire warning shots against abusive husbands shouldn't go to prison for 20 farking years. Totally farking weird, right douchebag?

You're lucky I find you entertaining. Usually people who call me a douchebag go on ignore.

If that happens a lot you might want to do some soul searching.


It happens rarely. Usually in a good natured way over in TotalFark.
 
2013-07-14 02:04:30 AM
What's with people saying Zimmerman's going to get money from NBC?
 
2013-07-14 02:04:40 AM

Shyla: My back itches up high right between the shoulder blades where I can't reach. Suggestions for objects to use?


Use a Spatula. Since waffles are better and no-spatula-required.
 
2013-07-14 02:04:59 AM
So has the petition asking Obama to throw out the verdict been started yet?

Oh you damn well know it's coming.
 
2013-07-14 02:05:08 AM

ThatDarkFellow: I need to post twice in a row here to point out how asinine a protest over this is in Chicago of all places. How bad is the black on black crime there? How many murders a week? It's like the OK GoldenCorral except there's electricity.

 
2013-07-14 02:05:17 AM

slayer199: ChaosStar: No, no they can not.

Until a Florida attorney pipes up in the thread...I don't know what to believe because the media seems to have differing opinions.


The media?
The ones who edited the tape?  Claimed the c*** comment?

All they are doing is reporting what people are saying ("lets do the OJ civil trial deal!")
, they aren't doing any analysis (surprise!)
 
2013-07-14 02:05:30 AM

shower_in_my_socks: DoctorCal: You're lucky I find you entertaining. Usually people who call me a douchebag go on ignore.

If that happens a lot you might want to do some soul searching.

Hey, Treygreen. I put you on ignore a while ago. Go ahead and pull the trigger.


Why on earth would I do that? You're so much fun!
 
2013-07-14 02:05:36 AM

shower_in_my_socks: skullkrusher: unless the car was parked in the farking living room, she was out of the situation.

Cool. I'll break into your house and corner you in your garage and then laugh at you because you have no legal way to defend yourself. It'll be hilarious.


by "corner" me you mean allow me exits from the front and back door presumably because that's what happened in this case.

Stop it. Your racist conspiracy wetdream dog ain't gonna hunt
 
2013-07-14 02:05:53 AM

Treygreen13: Because the American Justice System demands proof that people commit crimes instead of just hanging people based on assumptions.


OK you want proof. Which of the statements do you disagree with? Let's take them in order.

Was Mr. Zimmerman armed?
 
2013-07-14 02:06:18 AM

gnosis301: What's with people saying Zimmerman's going to get money from NBC?


He has a defamation suit against them for their twisting of the initial reports, editing photos, video, and the 911 call to make it sound racial.
 
2013-07-14 02:06:34 AM

shower_in_my_socks: tollbooth_willy: So...we already established that she was violating the restraining order by going to a house she didn't live at.  Now you're saying her car was in a garage that she couldn't get out of?  How'd the car get in there?

It was THEIR former house. She went there to get her shiat out. She didn't think he would be there. He showed up and saw a text on her cell from a former husband. He got pissed and started beating and strangling her. From the articles that I read, she couldn't get out of the garage. I don't know why. Maybe he parked behind her? But here's a farking idea - why don't you read about the farking case before attacking people who have?


Lol...now that I've done a quick search, maybe you should read about the case too.

"In the police report, Gray claimed that Alexander came over to drop off their daughter, and that when he rebuffed Alexander's request to spend the night, she "became enraged and began striking him on the face." Gray said he raised his hands, the report continues, and he yelled out to his sons to call the police. The responding officer wrote that Gray's children corroborated that account. "

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/05/11/marissa-alexander-sentenced _n _1510113.html
 
2013-07-14 02:06:34 AM

proteon: (take 2)

The OJ verdict being watched live in the student union of Augustana College in 1995

[i.imgur.com image 600x450]


Why didn't they air the results in the middle of the day so I can be surrounded by pouting black people and laugh and shout and shove it in THEIR faces!  Black people really do bring racism upon themselves.
 
2013-07-14 02:07:02 AM

gnosis301: What's with people saying Zimmerman's going to get money from NBC?


NBC edited the 911 calls, splicing and re-arranging the lines to make Zimmerman sound racist and then aired them to stir people up.
 
2013-07-14 02:07:08 AM

Delay: Treygreen13: Because the American Justice System demands proof that people commit crimes instead of just hanging people based on assumptions.

OK you want proof. Which of the statements do you disagree with? Let's take them in order.

Was Mr. Zimmerman armed?


Manipulating and fabricating facts to reach a conclusion you've already come to does not an argument make
 
2013-07-14 02:07:14 AM

FlyingJ: Owangotang: Crowd gathered at a horse statue in Chicago, moment of silence for Trayvon with fists lifted in the air.

Reese's? Wha'happen to the Skittles?


Trayvon and Janteal. Good times. Good times.
 
HBK
2013-07-14 02:07:35 AM

gnosis301: What's with people saying Zimmerman's going to get money from NBC?


NBC edited the 911 call to make it sound like Zimmerman called the police because Martin was black. I think he already has a suit filed against NBC.

He also has a potential suit against CNN for posting his social security number and phone number.
 
2013-07-14 02:07:37 AM

Boojum2k: gnosis301: What's with people saying Zimmerman's going to get money from NBC?

He has a defamation suit against them for their twisting of the initial reports, editing photos, video, and the 911 call to make it sound racial.


Okie dokie lokie. Thankya.
 
2013-07-14 02:08:17 AM

Delay: Treygreen13: Because the American Justice System demands proof that people commit crimes instead of just hanging people based on assumptions.

OK you want proof. Which of the statements do you disagree with? Let's take them in order.

Was Mr. Zimmerman armed?


Save it. The trial happened and he was found not guilty. If you want to re-hash all the proof go look up the case. It's all there for you to go look at.
 
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