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2013-07-13 11:14:41 PM

hockeyfarker: BUT I also smart voted the pro french toast comments, because it is clearly the superior breakfast item.


What is wrong with you people?
 
2013-07-13 11:14:59 PM
F it. I am not waiting for a riot. I am going to sleep
 
2013-07-13 11:15:00 PM

roaneranger: Just went out and checked. no rioting here in ne south Dakota yet.


It's pretty quiet here in Iowa too.

The fire flies do look at little like gun shots though
 
2013-07-13 11:15:01 PM

DicksWii: Since George Zimmerman is not guilty of the gun death of Trayvon Martin, then that just proves my point --- People don't kill people, GUNS kill people. Can we get started on that National Gun Confiscation thing now?


No... No you can't.

Tough shiat.
 
2013-07-13 11:15:12 PM

skullkrusher: Elegy: Skeptigal: You stupid FLORIDIOTS! Too bad "stand your ground" is only a defense if you're white. A woman who fired warning shots at her husband who was coming at her (she had a protective order against him), was just sentenced to 20 yrs in prison. For attempted manslaughter. In Florida. Guess what color she is?

Guess what? She broke into her SO's house when she had a restraining order against him, confronted him, left his house to get her gun out of her car, returned to continue to argument, and fired a "warning shot" that deflected off the wall and into the ceiling when her children were standing in the same room.

Oh yeah, there was a 911 call where she could be clearly heard saying "I got something for you" and then a shot.

Then she insisted she had a SYG defense when she had a plea deal on the table and rolled the dice on a trial when the charges she was up against had a 20 year mandatory minimum.

Marissa Alexander has no one to blame but herself for going to jail.

BUT I WANNA BE MAD


Can you link a citation for all those facts of the case?
I was looking for it after reading that post but every article I've found has been very light on the actual events.
 
2013-07-13 11:15:14 PM
Immunity from Civil Action.  He's a free man.

[Dealwithit.jpg]
 
2013-07-13 11:15:22 PM
"Forget it, Jake.  It's Chinatown Florida."
 
2013-07-13 11:15:24 PM
in related news Florida declares open season on people with dark skin tones.
 
2013-07-13 11:15:42 PM
Ok, I'll say it "Zimmerman for President!!!"

/he's gonna need the SS protection.
 
2013-07-13 11:15:55 PM

DicksWii: Since George Zimmerman is not guilty of the gun death of Trayvon Martin, then that just proves my point --- People don't kill people, GUNS kill people. Can we get started on that National Gun Confiscation thing now?


Dude, get a clue, we have guns. OKTHANXBYE
 
2013-07-13 11:15:57 PM

iq_in_binary: Penman: Pincy: Penman: iq_in_binary: Because the asshole who thinks a gun in his pocket makes him a cop that decided you looked suspicious won't go to jail for shooting you after starting a fight with you and losing.

Every Trayvon cheerleader gets this wrong. Trayvon Martin started the fight.

So we have video of how this whole thing went down?

A 911 call and the injuries to Zimmerman.

Yes, a 911 call where Zimmerman admitted to pursuing Martin. Despite being told not to.

Active pursuit is threatening behavior. That's instigating a fight. Like I said, he was losing a fight he started, and like a little biatch pulled the gun because he was a sore loser.


That's like, your opinion, man. And right now, that opinion doesn't count for shiat as the jury decided.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:03 PM
Whatever you wheat lovers...

I'm gonna vote for Steak and Eggs, T-bone-Medium, Scrambled with cheese, scattered, covered, and chunked. With a Vanilla Coke
 
2013-07-13 11:16:12 PM

crazyeddie: Immunity from Civil Action.  He's a free man.

[Dealwithit.jpg]


He's free, but he'll have to skip town most likely. Trayvon's crew wants revenge.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:18 PM

ChaosStar: skullkrusher: Elegy: Skeptigal: You stupid FLORIDIOTS! Too bad "stand your ground" is only a defense if you're white. A woman who fired warning shots at her husband who was coming at her (she had a protective order against him), was just sentenced to 20 yrs in prison. For attempted manslaughter. In Florida. Guess what color she is?

Guess what? She broke into her SO's house when she had a restraining order against him, confronted him, left his house to get her gun out of her car, returned to continue to argument, and fired a "warning shot" that deflected off the wall and into the ceiling when her children were standing in the same room.

Oh yeah, there was a 911 call where she could be clearly heard saying "I got something for you" and then a shot.

Then she insisted she had a SYG defense when she had a plea deal on the table and rolled the dice on a trial when the charges she was up against had a 20 year mandatory minimum.

Marissa Alexander has no one to blame but herself for going to jail.

BUT I WANNA BE MAD

Can you link a citation for all those facts of the case?
I was looking for it after reading that post but every article I've found has been very light on the actual events.


first I've heard of the case
 
2013-07-13 11:16:18 PM

bopis: Can we stay on topic here? the headline specifically said lets talk about pancakes- not waffles, not french toast.


Awww, I wanted to talk about croissants for once.

/kicks the ground
 
2013-07-13 11:16:20 PM
Wait, so Crump and the family say it is not about race, but then go off about MLK Jr and civil rights? REALLY?
 
2013-07-13 11:16:21 PM

Lionel Mandrake: casual disregard: Lionel Mandrake: NOT GUILTY!!

JUST LIKE OJ!!

The jury decided.

That's how it works in our justice system. No posthumous verdicts from the bench, no guilt presumed upon accusation, no tribal dances, no bribes or other bullcrap. The jury decided.

And they decided correctly.

That's what happens when rednecks write stupid laws: bad things happen, but nobody did anything wrong.


The law is the law despite or even in spite of what Judge Dredd proclaimed. From my little armchair I concluded based on the evidence that Zimmerman would have been guilty of at least something. In Florida, apparently not.

My opinion means nothing there. My opinion means less than nothing here! This is the law we are discussing, and the law is at worst lawful evil. The jury decided.

I hope that Zimmerman will find a quiet life. I suspect that will not be true. I suspect vigilantes will make his life hell. At this point, I'm hating the vigilantes. Give him the respect the jury gave him. Leave him alone.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:21 PM

Mrtraveler01: skullkrusher: Mrtraveler01: creepy ass-cracka: No. Those are racial slurs uttered by Martin.

Based on what? Zimmerman's word?

Do black people really say "cracka" still? I thought that was a dated term to use.

his girlfriend testified that he said that on the phone to her

Wow...i thought they only said "cracka" in 1970's Blaxploitation films.


4.bp.blogspot.com
Why you insecureno business barn junkyard rat soup eatin' mothafarka!
 
2013-07-13 11:16:27 PM
And can we all agree that the verdict (Or at least the perception of it?) is all the media's fault?
 
2013-07-13 11:16:28 PM

Fade2black: van1ty: Did you know Trayvon Martin was wearing a hoodie?

[i40.tinypic.com image 639x426]

I figured since you're showing your idiocy, I'd show mine as well.  Maybe we can divide by zero someday, tool.


Call me crazy but I could've sworn that the one on the top center was not the Trayvon Martin that got shot?
 
2013-07-13 11:16:49 PM

CrazyCracka420: I think there's a positive lesson we can all learn from this tragedy:

Make sure you're the only one left standing after you start an altercation.


i.imgur.com

2 out of 3 isn't enough. You gotta finish the job. That's what this verdict says. Like this thread shows, its easy to blame a dead guy for starting a fight---he's not around to testify to the contrary. You could say Trevyon was the local chapter head of NAMBLA and it would be equally as meaningful.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:50 PM

TsukasaK: barneyfifesbullet: race industry

What the bleeding fark is the "race industry?


Can't say I've heard the term before, but if I had to guess, I would assume that it refers to efforts to profit from racial tensions. I assume the term was invented by people who intended to insult folks like Al Sharpton and Jesse Jackson, but there are folks on The Other Side to whom it could also apply, and they are rather less savory.

Let's not forget both major political parties while we're at it.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:55 PM

Mr. Eugenides: Swedish panekakes as made by my Norwegian grandma.

1 cup of flour
2 cups milk (2% at least)
4 eggs
2 to 3 tablespoons of corn oil
A handful of sugar

Preheat griddle to 425, it's ready when droplets of water dance.

Combine ingredients and mix until smooth.  Some small lumps of flour are OK, but not a lot.

Once griddle is heated, melt a tablespoon of butter and spread it across.  Pour half a cup of batter on griddle.  Cook.

On serving, roll up some lingonberry preserve inside and enjoy.

Oh, and I called it in the other thread, the Jury was 5-1 with five for acquittal and 1 for manslaughter.


I'm stealing this for my personal use.
 
2013-07-13 11:16:56 PM
Meanwhile, this is the 1-in-100 time the bigot is right. And he will continue to crow over that for the next 99 times that he's wrong.
 
2013-07-13 11:17:00 PM

Carth: iq_in_binary: Penman: iq_in_binary: Because the asshole who thinks a gun in his pocket makes him a cop that decided you looked suspicious won't go to jail for shooting you after starting a fight with you and losing.

Every Trayvon cheerleader gets this wrong. Trayvon Martin started the fight.

Actively pursuing somebody starts a fight, sorry.

If someone is trying to get the fark away from you and you won't let them? You're instigating a fight.

Following someone isn't illegal. Punching someone for following you is. Martin had no legal obligation to flee from Zimmerman (but he was only 100 yards from home and had 3 minutes to get there) but he did have a legal obligation not to beat Zimmerman for following him


Wrong.

Legal investigator. MY JOB was following people. You NEVER continuously trail somebody from less than 20-30 yards away. Because any closer is considered menacing. Besides that, if you had half a brain, you wouldn't be trailing somebody in a fashion that would alert them to the fact that you're tailing. For exactly the same reason, it can be construed as intimidating or threatening. Menacing, Intimidation, Stalking, there are all kinds of criminal charges that can and will be levied against you for following people around, and plenty of investigators have been tried with them despite the perfectly legitimate reasons they have to be investigating people.

Constantly following somebody around in a manner that they are aware of and at close proximity IS illegal behavior, in many places majorly so.

Like I said, Zimmerman started the fight.
 
2013-07-13 11:17:02 PM

skinbubble: I prefer:

[2.bp.blogspot.com image 850x617]


OMG BREADIST NONESENSE OUTA HERE! THIS IS A PANCAKE THREAD GOT IT??!!11one1
 
2013-07-13 11:17:09 PM

Shadow Blasko: Whatever you wheat lovers...

I'm gonna vote for Steak and Eggs, T-bone-Medium, Scrambled with cheese, scattered, covered, and chunked. With a Vanilla Coke


I lack the steak and cheese.. I think I may just go out tomorrow morning to the diner, that sounds godly right now.
 
2013-07-13 11:17:15 PM
Syrup is a lie.
 
2013-07-13 11:17:19 PM

Plant Rights Activist: in related news Florida declares open season on people with dark skin tones.


by acquitting a brown dude charged with murder?
 
2013-07-13 11:17:38 PM
tulsa20something.files.wordpress.com
 
2013-07-13 11:17:40 PM
NAACP is asking folks to sign a petition asking the DOJ to file civil rights charges against Z.
 
2013-07-13 11:17:41 PM
itsaidwhat: Ok, I'll say it "Zimmerman for President!!!"

/he's gonna need the SS protection.


Cheney/Zimmerman '16
 
2013-07-13 11:17:43 PM

steamingpile: Jose628: Michael Moore Verified account
@MMFlint
Trayvon was the 1 who's life was being threatened--by a guy w/ a gun chasing after him! Trayvon had the RIGHT 2 do ANYTHING 2 defend himself
https://twitter.com/MMFlint/status/356243570098835459

Because Michael Moore is an authority on level headed reporting and never slants anything to fit his viewpoints so he would never lie or tell a half to zero truth statement.


You're pretty ginned up about this if you mistake a quote posted without commentary for an endorsement of his POV. But then, I can't say I'm surprised you'd get your panties in a twist.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:02 PM
Oh and Atlanta, gird your loins the HLN Trial of the Century Crew is coming home.  Yes they have all come home just for the Andrea Sniederman Trial.  This one has it all, murder in front of a daycare, one man already convicted for the murder (he was guilty but insane), and a soccer mom turned criminal mastermind.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:13 PM
Someone has to stand up for the truth!


farm9.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-13 11:18:20 PM

bigsteve3OOO
2013-07-13 10:54:07 PM


StreetlightInTheGhetto: bigsteve3OOO: Albert: Obama, the DOJ, and the media attempted to railroad Zimmerman, This case was 100% political and anyone who thinks Zimmerman is guilty is probably an angry black person or you've been completely fooled and spun up by the lying media.

AMEN. This should have never been more than a local story where no one was charged.

Jesus this white lady who doesn't watch cable news feels f--king sorry for you two. And disgusted.

Pleased that by Florida law he's not guilty, fine. Celebrating, diaf.

A unarmed teen dead with only the survivor to definitely tell most of the tale - you think no one should have been charged??? That's what our f--king courts are FOR, to sort this sh-t out!

WRONG! That is what investigators are for. The original ones said no case here. then Obama forced them to a trial. It is a sick use of the bully pulpit.


From the other thread, because I have to respond:

If you honestly believe the only reason the trial took place is because "OBAMA FORCED THEM TO A TRIAL", you are a f--king idiot. Although to be fair I am slightly envious of you. Ignorance is bliss, and it must be nice to be so SURE of things, all the time. And to have an easy target that you can blame when anything disturbs you, so you know where to direct your anger you truly know is justified.

I would never want that for myself, but at the same time, I can see how comforting that must be to you.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:28 PM

nosferatublue: NAACP is asking folks to sign a petition asking the DOJ to file civil rights charges against Z.


What civil rights were violated?
 
2013-07-13 11:18:32 PM

iq_in_binary: Legal investigator. MY JOB was following people. You NEVER continuously trail somebody from less than 20-30 yards away.


Trayvon hid in the bushes and attacked Martin.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:33 PM

AirForceVet: I'm very unhappy Martin is dead. I honestly believe Zimmerman caused the altercation to happen by his actions. But I accept the jury's decision that Zimmerman didn't murder him nor committed manslaughter.

But I was once a 17-year-old male, walking in my Florida neighborhood at night after going to the local store. Glad no Zimmernam followed me in their car, carrying a gun.


Somebody's being overly dramatic.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:46 PM

iq_in_binary: Carth: iq_in_binary: Penman: iq_in_binary: Because the asshole who thinks a gun in his pocket makes him a cop that decided you looked suspicious won't go to jail for shooting you after starting a fight with you and losing.

Every Trayvon cheerleader gets this wrong. Trayvon Martin started the fight.

Actively pursuing somebody starts a fight, sorry.

If someone is trying to get the fark away from you and you won't let them? You're instigating a fight.

Following someone isn't illegal. Punching someone for following you is. Martin had no legal obligation to flee from Zimmerman (but he was only 100 yards from home and had 3 minutes to get there) but he did have a legal obligation not to beat Zimmerman for following him

Wrong.

Legal investigator. MY JOB was following people. You NEVER continuously trail somebody from less than 20-30 yards away. Because any closer is considered menacing. Besides that, if you had half a brain, you wouldn't be trailing somebody in a fashion that would alert them to the fact that you're tailing. For exactly the same reason, it can be construed as intimidating or threatening. Menacing, Intimidation, Stalking, there are all kinds of criminal charges that can and will be levied against you for following people around, and plenty of investigators have been tried with them despite the perfectly legitimate reasons they have to be investigating people.

Constantly following somebody around in a manner that they are aware of and at close proximity IS illegal behavior, in many places majorly so.

Like I said, Zimmerman started the fight.


Bullshiat.  and you know it.
 
2013-07-13 11:18:47 PM

skullkrusher: Mrtraveler01: creepy ass-cracka: No. Those are racial slurs uttered by Martin.

Based on what? Zimmerman's word?

Do black people really say "cracka" still? I thought that was a dated term to use.

his girlfriend testified that he said that on the phone to her


I have words for people that stalk me at night in the dark too while I'm on the sidewalk. They are not complimentary.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:00 PM

Mrtraveler01: creepy ass-cracka: No. Those are racial slurs uttered by Martin.

Based on what? Zimmerman's word?



Based on the testimony of the person Trayvon was on the phone with prior to the fight.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:03 PM
i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-13 11:19:09 PM

Lionel Mandrake: Zimmerman is in good company:

[img2-2.timeinc.net image 400x300]


The moral of the story is that "knowing" someone is guilty of something is different than being able to prove it.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:14 PM
t0.gstatic.com

Pancake nirvana.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:15 PM

ontariolightning: Zimmers address is being tweeted by thousands of accounts. He cannot go home lol


They should charge every single one with making terroristic threats
 
2013-07-13 11:19:18 PM

iq_in_binary: Carth: iq_in_binary: Penman: iq_in_binary: Because the asshole who thinks a gun in his pocket makes him a cop that decided you looked suspicious won't go to jail for shooting you after starting a fight with you and losing.

Every Trayvon cheerleader gets this wrong. Trayvon Martin started the fight.

Actively pursuing somebody starts a fight, sorry.

If someone is trying to get the fark away from you and you won't let them? You're instigating a fight.

Following someone isn't illegal. Punching someone for following you is. Martin had no legal obligation to flee from Zimmerman (but he was only 100 yards from home and had 3 minutes to get there) but he did have a legal obligation not to beat Zimmerman for following him

Wrong.

Legal investigator. MY JOB was following people. You NEVER continuously trail somebody from less than 20-30 yards away. Because any closer is considered menacing. Besides that, if you had half a brain, you wouldn't be trailing somebody in a fashion that would alert them to the fact that you're tailing. For exactly the same reason, it can be construed as intimidating or threatening. Menacing, Intimidation, Stalking, there are all kinds of criminal charges that can and will be levied against you for following people around, and plenty of investigators have been tried with them despite the perfectly legitimate reasons they have to be investigating people.

Constantly following somebody around in a manner that they are aware of and at close proximity IS illegal behavior, in many places majorly so.

Like I said, Zimmerman started the fight.


It isn't illegal in FL. Did you actually watch the trial? That was one of the main things they talked about during jury instruction and the state couldn't come up with any FL state law that said you couldn't follow anyone. Stalking, defined in Fl as repeated following, is illegal. Following someone to report their movements to 911 wasn't illegal according to the case.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:22 PM

Penman: He's free, but he'll have to skip town most likely. Trayvon's crew wants revenge.


So, thugs thinking they are tougher than they are and jumping straight to violence? Isn't that what got Trayvon into this mess in the first place?  Figures. Thugs will be thugs.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:28 PM

LemSkroob: teenage mutant ninja rapist: Wrong. Following the kid in the first place is what started the fight.

Not legally, no. And in a court of law, that's what counts. Surprising, isn't it?


Exactly. The whole thing here turns on "when did the incident start." If the incident started when Zimmerman got out of his car, then a case could be made that he is the instigator of the entire thing, and possibly guilty of murder. However, if the incident did not begin until the fight started, then it becomes "who threw the first punch" and "who was defending himself," and the ONLY question is whether Zimmerman was actually in fear of his life when he pulled the trigger.

That Zimmerman acted like a complete idiot in getting out of his car and following someone who's capabilities he didn't know was not under scrutiny here. Yes, he could have avoided the whole mess by just staying put till the cops arrived. But that's not an element of the crime. The only issue for the jury to decide was whether or not he was reasonably in fear of his life when he fired his gun; and apparently, they felt his doing so was reasonable. End of story.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:32 PM

casual disregard: Lionel Mandrake: casual disregard: Lionel Mandrake: NOT GUILTY!!

JUST LIKE OJ!!

The jury decided.

That's how it works in our justice system. No posthumous verdicts from the bench, no guilt presumed upon accusation, no tribal dances, no bribes or other bullcrap. The jury decided.

And they decided correctly.

That's what happens when rednecks write stupid laws: bad things happen, but nobody did anything wrong.

The law is the law despite or even in spite of what Judge Dredd proclaimed. From my little armchair I concluded based on the evidence that Zimmerman would have been guilty of at least something. In Florida, apparently not.

My opinion means nothing there. My opinion means less than nothing here! This is the law we are discussing, and the law is at worst lawful evil. The jury decided.

I hope that Zimmerman will find a quiet life. I suspect that will not be true. I suspect vigilantes will make his life hell. At this point, I'm hating the vigilantes. Give him the respect the jury gave him. Leave him alone.


Yeah, it'd be a damn shame if someone took the law into their own hands and shot someone they believed to be a criminal.
 
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