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2013-07-13 11:52:11 AM  
FTA: "Similarly, Lake suggested there were "fundamental issues" with proposed new rules limiting banks' riskiness and forcing them to seek out more capital. She suggested that regulators seem to be willing to consider having mercy on the banks and loosening up some of those fetters."

Mercy is the opposite of what the regulators should be considering.
 
2013-07-13 11:59:40 AM  
Arrest. Them. All.
 
2013-07-13 12:04:23 PM  
I'm for the death penalty.
 
2013-07-13 12:08:04 PM  
While I appreciate what EW is doing, I doubt anything will get passed by Congress.  And these Bankers know this.
 
2013-07-13 12:11:46 PM  

raerae1980: FTA: "Similarly, Lake suggested there were "fundamental issues" with proposed new rules limiting banks' riskiness and forcing them to seek out more capital. She suggested that regulators seem to be willing to consider having mercy on the banks and loosening up some of those fetters."

Mercy is the opposite of what the regulators should be considering.


MERCY ON THE BANKS. MERCY ON THE BANKS?!

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2013-07-13 12:13:39 PM  
The competing argument -- that the country enjoyed decades of relative financial calm after the segregation of bank activities after the Great Depression, and that it fell into a financial crisis not long after the removal of those safeguards -- is not taken seriously.

Would guillotines set up on Wall Street and a row of heads on pikes be taken seriously?
 
2013-07-13 12:18:19 PM  
In God We Trust?
E Pluribus Unum?
Our national motto should be 'Money talks and bullish*t walks'...
 
2013-07-13 12:23:52 PM  

clancifer: Arrest. Them. All.


this.  start with the farker at the top.
 
2013-07-13 01:50:40 PM  

alaric3: I'm for the death penalty.


I wouldn't be all that shocked if the bankers tried to arrange a hit on her. She's getting in their way.
 
2013-07-13 03:48:01 PM  

Sir Cumference the Flatulent: alaric3: I'm for the death penalty.

I wouldn't be all that shocked if the bankers tried to arrange a hit on her. She's getting in their way.


That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a week. You do not need violence when you control all the money.
 
2013-07-13 04:11:01 PM  
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2013-07-13 04:23:15 PM  
Jumpyoufarkers,jpg
 
2013-07-13 04:27:27 PM  
As for the Glass-Steagall revival, the consensus on Wall Street and in Washington is that it stands pretty much no chance of becoming law.

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2013-07-13 04:29:14 PM  
They're right. This Congress won't do a thing to them. Hell, I'm half surprised Joe Barton hasn't tearfully apologized to them yet
 
2013-07-13 04:29:59 PM  

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2013-07-13 05:10:02 PM  
I wonder how much she'll be laughing when she approaches becoming the Dem nominee for President sometime in the not-too-distant future.....
 
2013-07-13 05:10:37 PM  
Sorry - how much THEY will be laughing....
 
2013-07-13 05:16:42 PM  
When the crisis hit, and when memos and emails came out showing just how crooked the entire scheme was, we should have annihilated every CEO and board member of every "too big to fail" bank, and replaced them with people of our choosing.

The Feds have a history of taking out governments all over the world to put in people that would be more "accommodating" to them, why can't we wipe out CEO's and boards to put in people that are more "accommodating" for us?

Kill 'em all.
 
2013-07-13 05:23:47 PM  

bronyaur1: I wonder how much she'll be laughing when she approaches becoming the Dem nominee for President sometime in the not-too-distant future.....


Especially when we start trying to guess who the Republican nominee is going to be. I'll be shocked if they let anybody who can hold a coherent thought in their head into the primaries.
 
2013-07-13 05:26:14 PM  
Honestly, just shut up.  Nothing's going to come of this, and the middle class will be worse off.  There's nothing good left, so don't try pretending.
 
2013-07-13 05:37:13 PM  

gnosis301: Honestly, just shut up.  Nothing's going to come of this, and the middle class will be worse off.  There's nothing good left, so don't try pretending.


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2013-07-13 05:40:07 PM  
"If you have a world where some businesses have to have two times as much capital as other companies, over time that can create a huge competitive disadvantage," Dimon said. "We have interest in a safe and sound system, but not for a hugely imbalanced competitive playing field."

Said without a hint of irony before going off to destroy small businesses within the United States from ever possibly being competitive with their clients.
 
2013-07-13 05:40:38 PM  

Therion: The competing argument -- that the country enjoyed decades of relative financial calm after the segregation of bank activities after the Great Depression, and that it fell into a financial crisis not long after the removal of those safeguards -- is not taken seriously.

Would guillotines set up on Wall Street and a row of heads on pikes be taken seriously?


Do what the Romans did: Decorate the Appian way with crucifixions. Thousands of them. For hundreds of miles.

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2013-07-13 05:41:33 PM  

bronyaur1: I wonder how much she'll be laughing when she approaches becoming the Dem nominee for President sometime in the not-too-distant future.....


I could see it.  Her background runs a bit counter to what's usually acceptable in the center-inclusive bracket, but the GOP has been throwing the last couple elections as hard as they can, so with that help I can easily see her being a viable candidate.
 
2013-07-13 05:44:24 PM  

Testiclaw: When the crisis hit, and when memos and emails came out showing just how crooked the entire scheme was, we should have annihilated every CEO and board member of every "too big to fail" bank, and replaced them with people of our choosing.

The Feds have a history of taking out governments all over the world to put in people that would be more "accommodating" to them, why can't we wipe out CEO's and boards to put in people that are more "accommodating" for us?

Kill 'em all.


We need Wall Street Death Squads. We can train them at the School of the Americas.
 
2013-07-13 05:46:57 PM  

Kome: "If you have a world where some businesses have to have two times as much capital as other companies, over time that can create a huge competitive disadvantage," Dimon said. "We have interest in a safe and sound system, but not for a hugely imbalanced competitive playing field."

Said without a hint of irony before going off to destroy small businesses within the United States from ever possibly being competitive with their clients.


Not to mention being CEO of one of the largest banks in the world. Competition schmompetition.
 
2013-07-13 05:54:42 PM  
I'm really shocked that someone who was going to commit suicide because they lost everything hasn't decided to take some of these farkers with them.
 
2013-07-13 05:54:51 PM  
Oh come on.  These guys have totally learned their lesson.  We need to deregulate them even more than before.  They're good for it.  Honest!
 
2013-07-13 05:55:34 PM  
Mercy on the Banks

Oliver Stone movie starring Robin Williams?
Or was it Peter Greenaway?
 
2013-07-13 06:11:48 PM  

sammyk: Sir Cumference the Flatulent: alaric3: I'm for the death penalty.

I wouldn't be all that shocked if the bankers tried to arrange a hit on her. She's getting in their way.

That's the dumbest thing I've heard in a week. You do not need violence when you control all the money.


This.

I agree with Elizabeth Warren on some things, including this, but she is not a superhuman. She has done some pretty shady things in her past.  All the banks will need to do is unleash the Kraken on her. The statists in MSNBC will be more than happy to run the PR campaign against her if they actually deemed her a threat.  The truth is, they do not.  They know that the rest of the Congress and the President are their whores. They probably also know that she is a whore of theirs too, just grandstanding for her presidential run in a few years.

The banks will let her bark now and pick up the uninformed populace vote, because even if she wins, she belongs to them. If she did not, she would simply not be allowed airtime by the big three news networks.
 
2013-07-13 06:21:31 PM  

rabidarmadillo24: I'm really shocked that someone who was going to commit suicide because they lost everything hasn't decided to take some of these farkers with them.


I would like to see more of that sort of thing, frankly.
 
2013-07-13 06:24:21 PM  
If JPM/Dimon was complaining about some previously untried scheme to rein in the banks' craziness, they might have an argument. (Only 'might', but still.)

As it happens, McCain and Warren just want good old Glass-Steagall back.

Yeah, banks weren't as insanely profitable under Glass-Steagall, but they weren't as insanely dangerous to America and its economy either.

Repeal of Glass-Steagall  was an obvious mistake, and it is time to bring it back.
 
2013-07-13 06:25:02 PM  
Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.
 
2013-07-13 06:26:26 PM  
We have had 16 banking failures since 1860. We do not regulate our banks much, or not at all.

Canada has regulations on their banks and financial system. They have suffered a total of zero banking failures since 1860. Y2k. .Com Bubble. 2008 recession. Didn't even phase them.

Something is wrong here.
 
2013-07-13 06:27:07 PM  

Captain Dan: Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.


You're Poe's In-Law, aren't you?
 
2013-07-13 06:28:14 PM  

AnonAmbientLight: We have had 16 banking failures since 1860. We do not regulate our banks much, or not at all.

Canada has regulations on their banks and financial system. They have suffered a total of zero banking failures since 1860. Y2k. .Com Bubble. 2008 recession. Didn't even phase them.

Something is wrong here.


Zero in US standard units or metric?

That could really throw the numbers for a loop, so you'll need to unskew them.
 
2013-07-13 06:31:38 PM  

Captain Dan: Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.


Wait, what's bad about re-instituting Glass-Stegal?

/false equivalency is false
 
2013-07-13 06:35:00 PM  

Captain Dan: Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.


Why is this a bad idea by Ms Warren? Please be specific.
 
2013-07-13 06:35:32 PM  

ManateeGag: clancifer: Arrest. Them. All.

this.  start with the farker at the top.


Jamie Dimon?
 
2013-07-13 06:38:48 PM  
If the American people owned Washington this would've happened in 2008 or 2009 in the immediate aftermath of the crisis.

But the banks own Washington and they'll throw some money around to kill this as usual.
 
2013-07-13 06:39:12 PM  

Captain Dan: Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.


Because a Constitutional Amendment to institute a theocracy is equivalent to re-instituting regulations that prevented the shenanigans leading to a massive crash in the financial sector?  Pass me some of what you're smoking, will you?
 
2013-07-13 06:40:18 PM  
It's a winner-take-all economy.

What part of ALL isn't clear?

They're maniacal power-hungry sociopaths.

It's not just the money they want, they want ALL of everything. The liberty, the prosperity, the power, the luxuries.

/at least EW is trying to do something to stop them
//what your you going to do about it?
 
2013-07-13 06:43:43 PM  
If I were heading the big banks, I'd seriously consider not fighting new regulations proposed by the congress.

Not that I think it would be easy, but, I'd have more concern of losing control of the populace in the future and winding up with their heads on pikes.
 
2013-07-13 06:44:33 PM  

Captain Dan: Elizabeth Warren is demagoguing, and judging by the reception in threads like this, it's working.  This is the left-wing equivalent of Sarah Palin demanding to put "America is a Christian nation" in the Constitution: neither one is going to happen, they're both bad ideas, and they're intended only to gin up excitement amongst the loyalists.


Do you even know what "demagoguing" means?
 
2013-07-13 06:47:17 PM  
Dear Banking Execs,

How about we just start dragging bank execs out of their offices and put a few bullets in the back of their head the next time we have another financial crisis? How does that sound? Because that is where things are going. I know you're quite comfortable and things look pretty damn good from your glass and steel towers but down on the ground things aren't so good for the average Joe. So maybe you'll have to settle for a million dollars in compensation this fiscal year instead of your projected $10M, at least you'll live to enjoy it.

Sincerely,
A citizen who is concerned for your continued health

oh and ps: this isn't a game and your bank balance isn't your farking score
 
2013-07-13 06:47:19 PM  

MurphyMurphy: It's a winner-take-all economy.

What part of ALL isn't clear?

They're maniacal power-hungry sociopaths.

It's not just the money they want, they want ALL of everything. The liberty, the prosperity, the power, the luxuries.

/at least EW is trying to do something to stop them
//what your you going to do about it?


Well, I'm going to help by pointing out your typo.

Then I will go to Elizabeth Warren's Facebook page and click Like with all my might!
 
2013-07-13 06:47:35 PM  
JP Morgan laughed at Teddy Roosevelt too.
 
2013-07-13 06:47:42 PM  
Could some feds be more interested in watching your girlfriend's video Skype in her birthday suit than enforcing any big bank regs?

Trickledowners just letting the market fight it out until our becomes clear who needs a bailout.
 
2013-07-13 06:48:18 PM  
Everybody deserves a second chance. These huge banks know they made a mistake and I'm sure they're sorry. We should trust them not to throw the world's economy under the bus again. Only by trusting them will they learn how to be responsible.
 
2013-07-13 06:55:03 PM  

Ishkur: Wait, what's bad about re-instituting Glass-Stegal?


Multifarious.

1. There are less cumbersome ways of addressing the risk-exposure problems.  For example, strengthening capitalization requirements and capping incentive compensation, amongst other less drastic steps.

2. Coordination problems.  Glass-Steagall worked decently in 1933 because the global economy was closed and protectionism wasn't as harmful.  Those conditions no longer hold.  No other G-8 nation separates commercial & investment banking, and most if not all of the largest banks will leave the U.S. if we impose this unilaterally.

3. I apportion even more blame for the recession to ratings agencies than I do to the banks, and I'd rather we focus on them first.
 
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