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(The Hollywood Reporter)   Jennifer Lopez accused of accepting millions of dollars from "dictators and crooks." But enough about her record label; she took money from Uzbekistan, Chechnya, and even Russia to perform for scoundrels and thieves   (hollywoodreporter.com) divider line 70
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2013-07-13 10:39:42 AM  
But if she were to stop taking money from the 'crooks', she would have to stop performing at government galas.
 
2013-07-13 11:04:49 AM  
people in love with money don't get picky with the details. more more more.
 
2013-07-13 12:40:27 PM  

Cewley: people in love with money don't get picky with the details. more more more.


No Sh*t.  Money grubbers grub for money, film at eleven...
 
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2013-07-13 12:40:45 PM  

Cewley: people in love with money don't get picky with the details. more more more.


She cried that with a rebel  yell in the midnight hour.
 
2013-07-13 12:47:32 PM  

Cewley: people in love with money don't get picky with the details. more more more.


How do ya like it how do ya like it.
 
2013-07-13 01:17:43 PM  
Using the People's Republic of China dictatorial policies to make cheap consumer goods for the American market still OK.
 
2013-07-13 01:26:13 PM  
She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources. Kills hundred of thousands of innocent people in the process. violates sovereign airspaces. That spies on literally the whole world. That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist. Attacks whistleblowers. Assassinates anyone they want to. Bullies so countries do what they say. Uses torture to get any information. Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels. Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands. Puts people in prison who gets caught with marijuana a few times.
So I'm supposed to be outraged she accepted millions from dictators that were likely installed by US during coups or at least supported by the US? fark off
 
2013-07-13 01:40:55 PM  
In September 2012, according to HRF, Lopez was booked by the dictatorship of Azerbaijan to perform at a FIFA soccer tournament for a reported $2.5 million.

That goes too far. Do you know how corrupt those FIFA guys are? Can we begin the public stoning yet?
 
2013-07-13 02:46:12 PM  
Jenny from the Bloc
 
2013-07-13 03:33:12 PM  
When I was with Glendale Arena, Celine Dion did a show that we catered for the crew. Big affair, lots of Québécois everywhere, and select guests. One of those guests was a fairly high up Mexican mobster, who flew his daughter El Norte for the show. Brought a couple of torpedoes for security, and the Arena never challenged them, and to be fair, he was a thousand times more pleasant than anyone actually attached to the tour. Told a lot of funny stories, doted in his little girl, and his bodyguards even smiled and joked.

In the food service business you rub elbows with all sorts. And entertainment as well. The mobsters I've met and even worked for were incredibly pleasant. Then again, I wasn't into them for any money which would have changed the dynamic quite a bit.

When you cook, you take gigs. Mobbed up gigs? They pay well, and on time. Could she turn these gigs down? Sure, but considering how well they pay, and how well they treat folks in the limelight, it's hard to turn it down. Were The Ratpack asshats for working in Vegas when it was mobbed up to gills?
 
2013-07-13 03:38:42 PM  
Was there some point at which Lopez was considered an ethical person for whom this would be hypocritical?
 
2013-07-13 03:39:23 PM  

ontariolightning: She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources. Kills hundred of thousands of innocent people in the process. violates sovereign airspaces. That spies on literally the whole world. That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist. Attacks whistleblowers. Assassinates anyone they want to. Bullies so countries do what they say. Uses torture to get any information. Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels. Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands. Puts people in prison who gets caught with marijuana a few times.
So I'm supposed to be outraged she accepted millions from dictators that were likely installed by US during coups or at least supported by the US? fark off


I bet you're the life of whatever party you attend.
 
2013-07-13 03:40:31 PM  
Seen in concert hall lobby:

www.destinationhollywood.com
 
2013-07-13 03:44:58 PM  

thismomentinblackhistory: Jenny from the Bloc


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-13 03:47:30 PM  
In September 2012, according to HRF, Lopez was booked by the dictatorship of Azerbaijan to perform at a FIFA soccer tournament for a reported $2.5 million.


It's hilarious these dictator clowns think anyone in the West gives a multi-million dollar sh*t about Jennifer Lopez.
upload.wikimedia.org
 
2013-07-13 03:47:54 PM  

hubiestubert: When I was with Glendale Arena, Celine Dion did a show that we catered for the crew. Big affair, lots of Québécois everywhere, and select guests. One of those guests was a fairly high up Mexican mobster, who flew his daughter El Norte for the show. Brought a couple of torpedoes for security, and the Arena never challenged them, and to be fair, he was a thousand times more pleasant than anyone actually attached to the tour. Told a lot of funny stories, doted in his little girl, and his bodyguards even smiled and joked.

In the food service business you rub elbows with all sorts. And entertainment as well. The mobsters I've met and even worked for were incredibly pleasant. Then again, I wasn't into them for any money which would have changed the dynamic quite a bit.

When you cook, you take gigs. Mobbed up gigs? They pay well, and on time. Could she turn these gigs down? Sure, but considering how well they pay, and how well they treat folks in the limelight, it's hard to turn it down. Were The Ratpack asshats for working in Vegas when it was mobbed up to gills?


Tell me you didn't just compare that fat assed, no talent twat to Sinatra and his crew.
 
2013-07-13 03:49:14 PM  

Robert1966: Was there some point at which Lopez was considered an ethical person for whom this would be hypocritical?


Jumps on the couch in agreement
 
2013-07-13 03:49:55 PM  

GreatGlavinsGhost: Robert1966: Was there some point at which Lopez was considered an ethical person for whom this would be hypocritical?

Jumps on the couch in agreement


Aww, it lopped off the gif.
:(
 
2013-07-13 03:53:29 PM  
Uhm, so?
 
2013-07-13 03:56:28 PM  
www.newsgab.com

Don't be fooled by the rocks that I got-
I'll take cash from a willing despot!
Used to have a little, now I gotta lot!
No matter where I go, I know what I'm all aboooout!
 
2013-07-13 03:57:43 PM  
Who cares. Have you listened to her music? If you can call it music. If she got paid to torture some rich person privately that is not anything I care about.
 
2013-07-13 04:03:39 PM  
...and?

Does this mean we should condemn every artist and performer that showed up for Presidential events during the Bush administration, then? The man approved an illegal offshore prison. Or Obama? The man continues to approve an illegal offshore prison.

I love how ethics are confused with morals here. Half of the offenses cataloged by the article include the word "alleged" or "accused":
...in Moscow of allegedly corrupt Russian businessman...
...While in the capital city of Baku, the foundation alleges,...
...a Russian bureaucrat accused of corruption.
...The rights organization alleges that the Lopez camp's claim...

I'm OK with human rights organizations calling out the actual folks involved in human rights violations. Such assholes need calling out.

I'm not OK with human rights organizations trying to punish the actual folks by attempting to smear and shame anyone that comes into contact with them, especially if the human rights organizations have to spend half an article using passive language to avoid being legally sued by the actual folks these organizations want to punish.

This group wants attention, and so they're latching onto performers like remoras, hoping to exploit the fame and attention of those performers to shed light onto their own causes. It doesn't seem right to me, especially since the performers in question, so far, have done absolutely nothing wrong.
 
2013-07-13 04:07:23 PM  
"The band is not political - we play to anybody who wants to come and listen." Brian May

"The singer is not political - she plays to anybody who wants to come and listen."  Jennifer Lopez' manegement
 
2013-07-13 04:34:45 PM  

Bslim: Tell me you didn't just compare that fat assed, no talent twat to Sinatra and his crew.


Talent and gender are the only big differences between them. Sinatra was an intolerable prick who made a lot of money by associating with thugs.
 
2013-07-13 04:39:20 PM  

ontariolightning: She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources. Kills hundred of thousands of innocent people in the process. violates sovereign airspaces. That spies on literally the whole world. That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist. Attacks whistleblowers. Assassinates anyone they want to. Bullies so countries do what they say. Uses torture to get any information. Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels. Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands. Puts people in prison who gets caught with marijuana a few times.
So I'm supposed to be outraged she accepted millions from dictators that were likely installed by US during coups or at least supported by the US? fark off


Why don't you go be Canadian somewhere else.
 
2013-07-13 04:42:04 PM  

ontariolightning: She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources. Kills hundred of thousands of innocent people in the process. violates sovereign airspaces. That spies on literally the whole world. That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist. Attacks whistleblowers. Assassinates anyone they want to. Bullies so countries do what they say. Uses torture to get any information. Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels. Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands. Puts people in prison who gets caught with marijuana a few times.
So I'm supposed to be outraged she accepted millions from dictators that were likely installed by US during coups or at least supported by the US? fark off


Yeah,we're almost as bad as our northern neighbor who imprisons people for political and religious speech.
 
2013-07-13 04:44:24 PM  

Bslim: hubiestubert: When I was with Glendale Arena, Celine Dion did a show that we catered for the crew. Big affair, lots of Québécois everywhere, and select guests. One of those guests was a fairly high up Mexican mobster, who flew his daughter El Norte for the show. Brought a couple of torpedoes for security, and the Arena never challenged them, and to be fair, he was a thousand times more pleasant than anyone actually attached to the tour. Told a lot of funny stories, doted in his little girl, and his bodyguards even smiled and joked.

In the food service business you rub elbows with all sorts. And entertainment as well. The mobsters I've met and even worked for were incredibly pleasant. Then again, I wasn't into them for any money which would have changed the dynamic quite a bit.

When you cook, you take gigs. Mobbed up gigs? They pay well, and on time. Could she turn these gigs down? Sure, but considering how well they pay, and how well they treat folks in the limelight, it's hard to turn it down. Were The Ratpack asshats for working in Vegas when it was mobbed up to gills?

Tell me you didn't just compare that fat assed, no talent twat to Sinatra and his crew.


Untwist those panties.

He just asked why is ok for some people but not others to profit from performing for scumbags and crooks?
 
2013-07-13 04:53:26 PM  
The real crime here is that people pay her millions of dollars to sing for them.

/Hey Ho
 
2013-07-13 04:57:39 PM  
And most of the raw materials that make up the electronics in our first-world lives was mined by child slave labor in the Congo So the quote "I know what you are madam, now we are just negotiating." is apropos.
 
2013-07-13 05:15:44 PM  

Bslim: hubiestubert: When I was with Glendale Arena, Celine Dion did a show that we catered for the crew. Big affair, lots of Québécois everywhere, and select guests. One of those guests was a fairly high up Mexican mobster, who flew his daughter El Norte for the show. Brought a couple of torpedoes for security, and the Arena never challenged them, and to be fair, he was a thousand times more pleasant than anyone actually attached to the tour. Told a lot of funny stories, doted in his little girl, and his bodyguards even smiled and joked.

In the food service business you rub elbows with all sorts. And entertainment as well. The mobsters I've met and even worked for were incredibly pleasant. Then again, I wasn't into them for any money which would have changed the dynamic quite a bit.

When you cook, you take gigs. Mobbed up gigs? They pay well, and on time. Could she turn these gigs down? Sure, but considering how well they pay, and how well they treat folks in the limelight, it's hard to turn it down. Were The Ratpack asshats for working in Vegas when it was mobbed up to gills?

Tell me you didn't just compare that fat assed, no talent twat to Sinatra and his crew.


You just can't compare them, one is singer popular for good looks and bland songs,  other is a slut
 
2013-07-13 05:16:05 PM  
Why exactly am I supposed to care?  I need details.
 
2013-07-13 05:33:12 PM  

Bslim: Tell me you didn't just compare that fat assed, no talent twat to Sinatra and his crew.


I can't stand Lopez, but there was nothing great about Sinatra.  He was an alright singer.  He was an incredible douchebag.  I'd say they're on par.
 
2013-07-13 05:34:47 PM  

bronyaur1: Why exactly am I supposed to care?  I need details.


she is an entertainer, she is paid to entertain. If I could demand hundreds of thousands to show up, wiggle my ass around, pretend to have some sort talent out side of artistically pouting.. I most certainly would ride that train for as long as possible.


this is capatalism people, and it is the american way!
 
2013-07-13 05:37:44 PM  

mjbok: He was an incredible douchebag.


He's got pieces of guys like you in his stool.
 
2013-07-13 05:45:42 PM  

SockMonkeyHolocaust: And most of the raw materials that make up the electronics in our first-world lives was mined by child slave labor in the Congo So the quote "I know what you are madam, now we are just negotiating." is apropos.


Well, that's not true, actually.

/E.E.
 
2013-07-13 05:46:22 PM  

bronyaur1: Why exactly am I supposed to care?  I need details.


I thought you graduated high school already.
 
2013-07-13 05:51:13 PM  
Did she fulfill all their wishes with taco flavored kisses?
 
2013-07-13 05:58:07 PM  
What does it matter if she's a slut? Why is this a criticism from a lot of you? Sluts are cool. Male sluts give good oral, and I'm sure female sluts do too. What's the issue?
 
2013-07-13 06:12:46 PM  

Pr1nc3ss: What does it matter if she's a slut? Why is this a criticism from a lot of you? Sluts are cool. Male sluts give good oral, and I'm sure female sluts do too. What's the issue?


Some people think sex is bad. Seriously. Anyone who enjoys sex, especially outside of a traditional marriage, must therefore also be bad, and must be shamed or punished.
 
2013-07-13 06:13:10 PM  
 
2013-07-13 06:17:49 PM  

See You Next Tuesday: Well, that's not true, actually.

/E.E.


Yes it is.
 
2013-07-13 06:26:39 PM  
There is no whore like an American whore.
 
2013-07-13 06:40:42 PM  

EbolaNYC: ontariolightning: She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources. Kills hundred of thousands of innocent people in the process. violates sovereign airspaces. That spies on literally the whole world. That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist. Attacks whistleblowers. Assassinates anyone they want to. Bullies so countries do what they say. Uses torture to get any information. Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels. Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands. Puts people in prison who gets caught with marijuana a few times.
So I'm supposed to be outraged she accepted millions from dictators that were likely installed by US during coups or at least supported by the US? fark off

Why don't you go be Canadian somewhere else.


They ran out of baby seals to club over the head, and there's nothing left for them to do except eat Timbits & wait for the NHL season.
 
2013-07-13 06:44:26 PM  

hubiestubert: doted in his little girl,


i.imgur.com
 
2013-07-13 06:44:37 PM  

aNihilV10L8tr: Did she fulfill all their wishes with taco flavored kisses?


And good ol' fashioned hand jobs.

/s'alright.
 
2013-07-13 06:48:01 PM  

wjllope: He's got pieces of guys like you in his stool.


I'm pretty sure I could take him today.
 
2013-07-13 06:48:06 PM  

FormlessOne: Pr1nc3ss: What does it matter if she's a slut? Why is this a criticism from a lot of you? Sluts are cool. Male sluts give good oral, and I'm sure female sluts do too. What's the issue?

Some people think sex is bad. Seriously. Anyone who enjoys sex, especially outside of a traditional marriage, must therefore also be bad, and must be shamed or punished.


...and heaven forbid you have sex frequently regardless of whether it's with one partner over many years or many partners over a shorter period of time. I didn't even have the luxury of getting shamed. I was just flat out called a liar. Farkers can be a pathetic yet very funny bunch at times.
 
2013-07-13 06:48:33 PM  

ontariolightning: She's from a country that bombs smaller countries for their natural resources.


Afghanistan and Iraq had very little to do with obtaining natural resources.  In fact securing natural resources hasn't been a consistent priority for U.S. foreign policy in the last decade.  Afghanistan was a direct response to the 9/11 attacks and Iraq was an attack of opportunity in the hopes of eliminating a hostile regime in a critical region (hopefully resulting in profit).  While it did result in outsized profits for defense interests it did not result in a clean substitution of a friendly regime for a hostile one and instead introduced new instabilities that had a negative impact on trade in the region as well as global commodity prices.  The miscalculations on the initial invasion and it's follow-up were too large to support an assertion that this was a war for resource acquisition.

violates sovereign airspaces.

Presumably this is a reference to Pakistan.  For the better part of a decade Pakistan's frontier has been porous and poorly policed by Pakistani authorities making it an attractive base of operations for insurgents operating in Afghanistan.  While sovereignty should be respected generally, that respect flows along a two-way street.  Pakistan's inability to assert control over it's frontier created conditions that allowed insurgents based in Pakistan to launch innumerable attacks on targets in Afghanistan which is a clear violation of Afghanistan's territorial sovereignty.  Further, since the concept of sovereignty is predicated on a monopoly over the use of a force in a region, it is arguable that Pakistan is the actual (de facto) sovereign over the territories bordering Afghanistan.  Until and unless Pakistan asserts control over and purges its border regions of insurgents then airstrikes on targets in their region are fully justified.

That spies on literally the whole world.

You're being ridiculous.  Prudent nations have far flung and varied intelligence operations.  In the past, the G-8 nations have been known to spy on each other (even though most are close allies) simply because their economic interests don't always allign.  Spying is a good thing.  Properly run, it means that political leaders are obtaining a wealth of information that will allow them to make informed decisions.  Implying that we should cut back on intelligence operations is akin to saying you want your politicians and military leaders to make decisions with less (or imperfect) information.  Advocating for less-informed leadership is pure folly.

That indefinitely detains any person that they deem a terrorist.

You don't seem to understand international law very well.  Most of those held in Guantanamo were detained pursuant to military operations.  If they were treated as civilians, and not combatants, that would mean they would need to be tried in civilian courts.  That would require procedures that follow the standard rules of evidence and trial practice.  Since they were placed in custody by soldiers and not police in situations where crime scene protocols are impractical, if not impossible, there is no viable evidentiary record that could support criminal trials.  Such trials would also require revealing intelligence sources that were used to identify the individuals which would endanger those sources as well as render them useless.  Furthermore, if we did somehow manage to overcome these impracticalities (since soldiers in Afghanistan rarely have the time, assuming they aren't exposed to any danger, to process crime scenes and gather evidence) the reality is that a successful prosecution would likely result in terms of confinement vastly in excess of anything the detainees are likely to receive (e.g. 25 years to life).

On the other hand, if we were to treat them as combatants, meaning their confinement is for the duration of the conflict, then nothing would change.  As the Afghanistan conflict is still ongoing their confinement isn't improper as of yet.  Keep in mind too that, as combatants, their confinement is justified simply by being captured under arms or in cooperation with hostile forces and that, as combatants, they are in peril regardless of whether or not they are engaged in hostile actions (e.g. meaning we can attack them wherever they are whenever we can find them).  The "combatant's privilege" means that their actions aren't deemed criminal and subject to criminal prosecution (e.g. no trial for murder if they kill someone) but they suffer the "combatant's detriment" in that they can be killed at any time and detained for however long hostilities last.

Assassinates anyone they want to.

There is no obligation to ignore individuals who have orchestrated or supported hostile acts against a state.  The aggrieved state is fully justified in pursuing those individuals and treating them as combatants.  There is no due process requirement for the use of force in the foreign policy or military context since such requirements are impractical and self-defeating (it would need to be ex parte in order to avoid warning a potential target).  Where recent practice becomes questionable is with the assassination of Anwar al-Awlaki who, as an American citizen, was owed due process prior to deliberate deprivation of life.  That requirement however flows from his status as a citizen and not from a norm of international law.

Bullies so countries do what they say.

How is this unusual from every other state?  The powers that be in the EU (as well as the EU itself) do that every day as does large states like China and Russia and smaller states like Ecuador or Bolivia.

Gives weapons to the cartels and al qaeda rebels.

The enemy of my enemy is my friend.  Again, this is a fairly normal and common tactic that's been utilized by nations since time immemorial.  Sometimes it can be beneficial since it helps forge a common bond between an emerging nation and an existing power (France providing arms to the Continental Army) that results in a lasting friendship.  Yes it can backfire but whether it fails or not is more of an issue of execution than a flaw in the practice.

Main belligerent in the drug war that's killed thousands.

Every war has two sides and to credit the U.S. as the belligerent in a war that has killed thousands is a gross misrepresentation since 1) the United States isn't responsible for the vast majority of those killings, most of whom were perpetrated by the cartels & gangs and 2) determining which substances are legal or illegal to sell is a proper exercise of the the United States' sovereign right.
 
2013-07-13 06:54:15 PM  
Who gives a shiat? She gets paid to entertain either by singing or by acting. She was asked if she would perform for a fee. They agreed on a fee, she performed.

If she reports the income, it's no ones business but her own. If she concealed the income then maybe it's newsworthy but OMG AN ENTERTAINER TOOK MONEY TO PERFORM, STOP THE PRESSES, GET THE PRESIDENT ON THE PHONE!
 
2013-07-13 06:56:26 PM  
I am not even going to  comment on any of that bullshiat JK47.
 
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