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(Some Guy)   Some IT guy thought that since he worked for a state attorney it was his duty to act ethically and blow the whistle on unethical practices. He forgot he was working in Florida. Bonus: Zimmerman related   (theconservativetreehouse.com) divider line 272
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2013-07-13 07:18:42 AM
The defense says they got this info in June. He says he got this info in January and started asking questions about it in April. He got a bonus in May for excellent work and then weeks later fired with a letter stating he is never to set foot in the office again.

Prosecutorial misconduct clear as day with a rubber stamp from the FDLE.
 
2013-07-13 07:24:42 AM
The prosecution team deserves to be prosecuted.
 
2013-07-13 08:15:51 AM
Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.
 
2013-07-13 08:32:03 AM

Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.


That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.
 
ZAZ [TotalFark]
2013-07-13 09:01:28 AM
If the judge decides the coincidence between testimony and firing is too great, he can summon the prosecutor and department employees to court and have them eviscerated and their heads planted on a spike outside of the courthouse as a warning. And turn all their worldly possessions over to the guy they wrongly fired in retalition for testimony that has an absolute privilege against retaliation.
Or at least lock them up for six months with a big fine for misconduct and/or contempt.
 
2013-07-13 09:04:34 AM

Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.


I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.
 
2013-07-13 09:08:19 AM

Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.


And proud you should be of such a fine accomplishment.
 
2013-07-13 09:22:16 AM

Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.


If you at least read the first line, it links to the website it took the story from. Was it really that hard to not let your jimmies get rustled?
 
2013-07-13 09:23:00 AM
It's not as if the data were really relevant to the case.  All it was were photos and texts demonstrating Martin's affinity for fights.  Why the jury wasn't even allowed to hear it, so it MUST not be important, right?  No judge would exclude something if it were key to the case, right?
 
2013-07-13 09:36:43 AM

Nabb1: And proud you should be of such a fine accomplishment.


Thank you.

Mrbogey: Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.

If you at least read the first line, it links to the website it took the story from. Was it really that hard to not let your jimmies get rustled?


My jimmies are just fine.
 
2013-07-13 09:40:25 AM
http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-an g ela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who

Here's a link to the original story from an actual newspaper and not a conservative website.  Honestly, the conservative website didn't trump it up much.  It's pretty bad to begin with.
 
2013-07-13 09:48:02 AM

Mrbogey: The defense says they got this info in June. He says he got this info in January and started asking questions about it in April. He got a bonus in May for excellent work and then weeks later fired with a letter stating he is never to set foot in the office again.

Prosecutorial misconduct clear as day with a rubber stamp from the FDLE.


I am not a fan of pretextual comments in evaluations or dismissal letters. If you're going to rate someone poorly or fire a person, say exactly what the cause was.

/Chickenshiat managers who have no courage.
 
2013-07-13 09:48:31 AM
Before Kruidbos' name surfaced in the Martin trial proceedings, he received a pay raise for "meritorious performance," according to a document dated May 16 in his personnel file.

And then 12 days later is placed on administrative leave...awkward.
 
2013-07-13 09:48:58 AM

Thoguh: http://jacksonville.com/news/metro/2013-07-13/story/state-attorney-an g ela-corey-fires-information-techonology-director-who

Here's a link to the original story from an actual newspaper and not a conservative website.  Honestly, the conservative website didn't trump it up much.  It's pretty bad to begin with.


It's not that it's "conservative" that bothers me. It's that Breitbart is a shiatstain, and I wouldn't trust anyone who venerates him that much.  I've read your link.  It does sound like something pretty damned bogus is going on, on the surface.
 
2013-07-13 09:55:11 AM

nekom: It's not as if the data were really relevant to the case.  All it was were photos and texts demonstrating Martin's affinity for fights.  Why the jury wasn't even allowed to hear it, so it MUST not be important, right?  No judge would exclude something if it were key to the case, right?


The twist, to me, is that they held a session on the phone discovery with Nelson presiding where all this came to light. She deferred a decision till after the trial. Yet knowing all of this, earlier this week she criticized Don West for not having the info on the cellphone together.

It's like your boss wondering why you're so tired in the morning after telling you the day before to work till midnight.
 
2013-07-13 10:42:38 AM
Wow.
 
2013-07-13 11:07:31 AM
For the lawyers: Does this come up on appeal? It would seem so to me, but don't know criminal law, much less appellate law.
 
2013-07-13 12:08:32 PM
FTFA: "The letter said Kruidbos "apparently questioned the ethics" of de la Rionda, who has been an assistant state attorney since 1983. "His record as an honorable and respected attorney is unblemished and beyond reproach," Peek wrote."

He might be respected, but after what I've learned about this case, I highly doubt he is honorable. BDLR is the man, after all, that: during his first interview with Rachel Jeantel picked the 19 year old up from her house; drove her to Sybrina Fulton's house in an FDLE caravan; sat her down Jeantel down in Trayvon Martin's house; put Travon Martin's crying mother in the couch next to her; and then proceeded to ask her what happened that night.

That might not be a technical violation of ethics, but it is sure as hell some of the sleeziest condict I have ever heard reported.
 
2013-07-13 12:52:24 PM
Right to work state? See ya...
 
2013-07-13 01:10:14 PM
Well, coming from a site called The Conservative Treehouse, this simply MUST be a big deal and not at all a stupid whinybaby complaint.
 
2013-07-13 01:11:06 PM
That'll surely keep him quiet.
 
2013-07-13 01:12:03 PM
x-post from other thread. relevant

From Trayvon's phone. Not all entered in evidence. Just for your enjoyment or whatever.

http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port1.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port2.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port3.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port4.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port5.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port6a.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port7.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/extraction_reports/ re port8.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/tm_photos/phone_pho to s.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/tm_photos/thumbnail _p hotos.pdf
http://www.gzdocs.com/documents/0513/discovery_3/tm_photos/trayvon_p ho tos.pdf
 
2013-07-13 01:12:39 PM
aaand the links broke, sweet
 
2013-07-13 01:12:57 PM
Like I said in the last thread...damned if he did, damned if he didn't. "Did" got him fired; "didn't" might have ended up with him as the prosecution scapegoat if this came out in a bad way. Sucks to be him.
 
2013-07-13 01:13:01 PM
Don't see why it matters. A random 7 year old probably planted those pics and texts anyways.
 
2013-07-13 01:13:02 PM
If I'm reading the article correctly, the guy took sensitive material from his job, and handed it over to someone who doesn't work there?

if he had issues with evidence not being shared, I'm sure there's a board or judge he could have reported it to.
 
2013-07-13 01:14:45 PM

Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.


Intentional ignorance is one way to choose to go in this little game we call life.
 
2013-07-13 01:15:17 PM

Katie98_KT: If I'm reading the article correctly, the guy took sensitive material from his job, and handed it over to someone who doesn't work there?

if he had issues with evidence not being shared, I'm sure there's a board or judge he could have reported it to.


Not that I know anything, but could it be possible he feared the system was so corrupt that this was his only way of exposing the deceit?
 
2013-07-13 01:15:49 PM

Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: And proud you should be of such a fine accomplishment.

Thank you.

Mrbogey: Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.

If you at least read the first line, it links to the website it took the story from. Was it really that hard to not let your jimmies get rustled?

My jimmies are just fine.


What's odd is you keep coming back into the thread as if you are proud of not reading something that you have preconceived notions against.  Odd.
 
2013-07-13 01:16:31 PM
So, he extracted something from the source file which law enforcement did not? The same source file that was given to the defense?

Was that his job?
 
2013-07-13 01:16:50 PM
25.media.tumblr.com

It's called disclosure, you dickhead!
 
2013-07-13 01:17:27 PM
We can't have anyone exposing the dirty deeds of the prosecution...
/whistleblower
 
2013-07-13 01:17:34 PM
theconservativetreehouse.files.wordpress.com
Everyone thinks that they're the rebel.
 
2013-07-13 01:17:41 PM

MyRandomName: Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.

Intentional ignorance is one way to choose to go in this little game we call life.


You are correct. We have had discussion of the supposed Internal Revenue "scandal" where a Farker attempted to claim that MoveOn was a politically-biased tax-exempt organization, despite being told that MoveOn is actually two separate organizations, and that the tax-exempt MoveOn is not a political action committee. The individual entirely discredited himself with that claim.

Willful ignorance is never excusable.
 
2013-07-13 01:18:12 PM

Nina_Hartley's_Ass: So, he extracted something from the source file which law enforcement did not? The same source file that was given to the defense?

Was that his job?


He gave his report to LE after he was done.  It is the duty of the prosecution to provide the defense all evidence it receives.  The Prosecution did not do so, that is misconduct and easy appeals.
 
2013-07-13 01:18:23 PM
One of my students works for the local county doing computer forensics - I'll ask him next week if he's getting a kick out of these replies.
 
2013-07-13 01:18:51 PM

nekom: It's not as if the data were really relevant to the case.  All it was were photos and texts demonstrating Martin's affinity for fights.  Why the jury wasn't even allowed to hear it, so it MUST not be important, right?  No judge would exclude something if it were key to the case, right?


What you don't understand is that anyone could have sent those text messages. None of them were signed saying it was Martin who sent them. Just because the phone was password protected doesn't mean anything since any seven year old could crack that.
 
2013-07-13 01:19:08 PM
Zimmerman was a failure who tried to be a real cop, so instead he became the night patrol man in his 'hood and stalked and murdered a black kid. Case closed and 5 years in prison.

/when the victim of a murderer is portrayed as the most vile person in the world, in order to give just cause for his being murdered, that is a failure of law.
//I hear Zimmerman used to constantly piss and shiat his pants on a daily basis. His momma had to change him every few hours.
 
2013-07-13 01:20:02 PM

Carth: nekom: It's not as if the data were really relevant to the case.  All it was were photos and texts demonstrating Martin's affinity for fights.  Why the jury wasn't even allowed to hear it, so it MUST not be important, right?  No judge would exclude something if it were key to the case, right?

What you don't understand is that anyone could have sent those text messages. None of them were signed saying it was Martin who sent them. Just because the phone was password protected doesn't mean anything since any seven year old could crack that.


not sure if.gif
 
2013-07-13 01:20:19 PM

ObnoxiousLonghorn: Katie98_KT: If I'm reading the article correctly, the guy took sensitive material from his job, and handed it over to someone who doesn't work there?

if he had issues with evidence not being shared, I'm sure there's a board or judge he could have reported it to.

Not that I know anything, but could it be possible he feared the system was so corrupt that this was his only way of exposing the deceit?


if nothing else, he could have gone to the judge on the case.
 
2013-07-13 01:20:52 PM
Arrgghhh!  Use a farking margin with your image so that the text does not butt up right against it!  It not only makes it easier to read but it also makes you look a bit more professional as a web developer.
 
2013-07-13 01:21:19 PM

MyRandomName: Nina_Hartley's_Ass: So, he extracted something from the source file which law enforcement did not? The same source file that was given to the defense?

Was that his job?

He gave his report to LE after he was done.  It is the duty of the prosecution to provide the defense all evidence it receives.  The Prosecution did not do so, that is misconduct and easy appeals.


Well, of course anyone in your office can do your job and their results are considered just as valid as yours. Not all offices work that way.
 
2013-07-13 01:21:24 PM
Relatively Obscure:

My jimmies are just fine.

You are earnestly discussing your jimmies in a Fark internet forum.

What, in the name of all that's holy, has your life descended to?
 
GBB
2013-07-13 01:21:27 PM

Facetious_Speciest: Like I said in the last thread...damned if he did, damned if he didn't. "Did" got him fired; "didn't" might have ended up with him as the prosecution scapegoat if this came out in a bad way. Sucks to be him.


he should have been tipped off when he noticed his payroll code was "Expendable"
 
2013-07-13 01:21:49 PM

Dimensio: MyRandomName: Relatively Obscure: Nabb1: Relatively Obscure: Breitbart worship at the top of the page?  Ooh, I can't WAIT to not read any of this.

That's a great excuse for accepting prosecutorial misconduct.

I'm not accepting anything.  I'm just not reading TFA.

Intentional ignorance is one way to choose to go in this little game we call life.

You are correct. We have had discussion of the supposed Internal Revenue "scandal" where a Farker attempted to claim that MoveOn was a politically-biased tax-exempt organization, despite being told that MoveOn is actually two separate organizations, and that the tax-exempt MoveOn is not a political action committee. The individual entirely discredited himself with that claim.

Willful ignorance is never excusable.


Koch brothers have many different groups they participate in.  I have seen you and others all claim "KOOCCCHHH" even though they divest their interests as well for tax reasons.

IN this thread, did the "person" make a claim that MoveOn was not divested in seperate groups, or that MoveOn was a single entity.  Did this "person" pull names from a list of 501 groups or not?  See your claim is completely ignorant to reality.  This "person" never made the claim.  It is YOUR strawman argument that he said MoveOn was a single entity.  MediaMatters also has separate entities for tax reasons.  So if you want to follow this "person" around with your own ignorance, have at it.  You are just repeating a strawman that this "person" never made.
 
2013-07-13 01:22:22 PM
Christ I just gave a pageview to "theconservativetreehouse" whoever the fark they are.

Did they really have to serve him that firing notice, in person, at 7:30 am?
 
2013-07-13 01:22:27 PM

MyRandomName: Intentional ignorance is one way to choose to go in this little game we call life.


It is.  Of course, that's not what's happening, but it is.

MyRandomName: What's odd is you keep coming back into the thread as if you are proud of not reading something that you have preconceived notions against. Odd.


Responding to people is indeed the strangest thing that has ever happened.
 
2013-07-13 01:22:39 PM
Articles from The Conservative Tree-house in the main thread? This gibberish doesn't even qualify for the Politics thread. This is pure Tin Foil Hat.
 
2013-07-13 01:22:46 PM
In for the confirmation bias and to see hypocrites squirm and change opinions about  whistle blowers.
 
2013-07-13 01:23:25 PM

doralives: Relatively Obscure:

My jimmies are just fine.

You are earnestly discussing your jimmies in a Fark internet forum.

What, in the name of all that's holy, has your life descended to?


You haven't met my jimmies.  Maybe they're WORTH discussing.  You don't know!
 
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