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(CNN)   3rd person dead from Asiana Flt 214. Accoding to KTVU the victim's name was Sum Yung Gil   (cnn.com) divider line 55
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2013-07-13 01:45:08 AM
KTVU.  Otherwise, a nice effort, subby.
 
2013-07-13 02:31:05 AM
Subby is lesdyxic
 
2013-07-13 09:06:18 AM
Gene Masseth
 
2013-07-13 10:02:52 AM
Sad about the girl who got ran over by the truck, but even if she wasn't already dead from getting thrown out of the plane at 100 plus knots, when they covered her with foam it would have smothered her.
 
2013-07-13 10:03:21 AM

"At the time, firefighters were using flame retardant that ended up surrounding areas immediately around the plane with foam, Esparza said.

"When the truck repositioned itself to get a better aim of the fuselage, they discovered the body of the victim in the fresh track from the path of the truck," he added."


So basically she survived a horrifying plane crash, only to be killed at a San Francisco rave.
 
2013-07-13 10:05:32 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sad about the girl who got ran over by the truck, but even if she wasn't already dead from getting thrown out of the plane at 100 plus knots, when they covered her with foam it would have smothered her.


What an Asian girl covered with foam might look like.jpg
 
2013-07-13 10:07:39 AM
KTVU.  Otherwise, a nice effort, subby.

Well, that and misspelling "according".
 
2013-07-13 10:09:30 AM

jason103: KTVU.  Otherwise, a nice effort, subby.

Well, that and misspelling "according".


and what's a "Flt" ?
is that some new thing the kids are talking about?
 
2013-07-13 10:10:24 AM
www.clubbing9ine.com

www.chinadaily.com.cn
 
2013-07-13 10:11:31 AM
Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....
 
2013-07-13 10:24:55 AM
For Subby...

t2.gstatic.com
 
2013-07-13 10:26:50 AM

italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....


there is that. it's just so sad that she could survive the initial crash and then get run over by the people who are supposed to be helping her.

so sad, a little sad, ironic - pick one.
 
2013-07-13 10:40:58 AM

italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....


Two of them had their spinal cords severed and will in wheelchairs for life.

Remember: Just because you hear "injuries" doesn't mean everyone is going to be walking away OK after a few days in the hospital.  Injuries can be mean life-changing horrific stuff that gets under-reported.

A car accident victim can walk away from a crash but be suffering from nerve pains for the rest of their life.  It happens.
 
2013-07-13 10:43:37 AM

Curious: italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....

there is that. it's just so sad that she could survive the initial crash and then get run over by the people who are supposed to be helping her.

so sad, a little sad, ironic - pick one.


Who's she?
 
2013-07-13 10:45:10 AM

MattyFridays: italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....

Two of them had their spinal cords severed and will in wheelchairs for life.

Remember: Just because you hear "injuries" doesn't mean everyone is going to be walking away OK after a few days in the hospital.  Injuries can be mean life-changing horrific stuff that gets under-reported.

A car accident victim can walk away from a crash but be suffering from nerve pains for the rest of their life.  It happens.


a1.vsoh.com
 
2013-07-13 10:51:20 AM
For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.
 
2013-07-13 10:53:01 AM
Was she run over by a gurney in the hospital?
 
2013-07-13 10:54:34 AM

Anthropolologist: Bit'O'Gristle: Sad about the girl who got ran over by the truck, but even if she wasn't already dead from getting thrown out of the plane at 100 plus knots, when they covered her with foam it would have smothered her.

What an Asian girl covered with foam might look like.jpg


Famous television commercial from 2011. Link probably to .jpg NSFW.

http://www.whatsonxiamen.com/news21506.html
 
2013-07-13 10:58:07 AM

Anthropolologist: Bit'O'Gristle: Sad about the girl who got ran over by the truck, but even if she wasn't already dead from getting thrown out of the plane at 100 plus knots, when they covered her with foam it would have smothered her.

What an Asian girl covered with foam might look like.jpg


Is the foam white and sticky? Cause i have several pictures of those
 
2013-07-13 10:58:28 AM

ggecko: For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.


Wow. That's uncommonly stupid for a SF Bay Area station.
 
2013-07-13 11:00:12 AM
farm7.staticflickr.com
 
2013-07-13 11:10:07 AM

rhiannon: Who's she?


FTFA: "One of those teenagers was hit on the runway by a fire truck, though it's not clear whether she was already dead when she was struck, San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN on Friday."

1) the police spokesman was doing CYA for the fire fighters.

2) this article doesn't have her name.
 
2013-07-13 11:13:38 AM

Curious: rhiannon: Who's she?

FTFA: "One of those teenagers was hit on the runway by a fire truck, though it's not clear whether she was already dead when she was struck, San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN on Friday."

1) the police spokesman was doing CYA for the fire fighters.


How is this CYA? Until the coroner was done there was no way of knowing for certain.
 
2013-07-13 11:19:11 AM
Please let the KTVU thing become a meme. So the justin bieber one can die if for no reason other than that.
 
2013-07-13 11:21:05 AM

Kyosuke: Curious: rhiannon: Who's she?

FTFA: "One of those teenagers was hit on the runway by a fire truck, though it's not clear whether she was already dead when she was struck, San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN on Friday."

1) the police spokesman was doing CYA for the fire fighters.

How is this CYA? Until the coroner was done there was no way of knowing for certain.


but the coroner is not done. the police spokesman even says that they're waiting for the coroner's full, complete report:

"Right now, we are waiting results from the coroner to determine if she died from the crash or the fire engine going over her," the police spokesman said. "And that will be part of our investigations, like any other case, by our hit-and-run and major accidents investigations teams."

so at this point, all that is known is that she was hit by a fire truck and that she is now dead, but the order of events is uncertain.

so yes, in the mean time, the police spokesman is trying to shield the fire department.
 
2013-07-13 11:28:05 AM

calbert: Kyosuke: Curious: rhiannon: Who's she?

FTFA: "One of those teenagers was hit on the runway by a fire truck, though it's not clear whether she was already dead when she was struck, San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN on Friday."

1) the police spokesman was doing CYA for the fire fighters.

How is this CYA? Until the coroner was done there was no way of knowing for certain.

but the coroner is not done. the police spokesman even says that they're waiting for the coroner's full, complete report:

"Right now, we are waiting results from the coroner to determine if she died from the crash or the fire engine going over her," the police spokesman said. "And that will be part of our investigations, like any other case, by our hit-and-run and major accidents investigations teams."

so at this point, all that is known is that she was hit by a fire truck and that she is now dead, but the order of events is uncertain.

so yes, in the mean time, the police spokesman is trying to shield the fire department.


By openly telling the truth? I never realized that CYA worked that way.
 
2013-07-13 11:33:49 AM

ggecko: For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.


I think the tv station supplied the names and the intern at NTSB verified them. Which still looks bad for the NTSB but the station should know better than to take an intern's word on anything. When I interned in the communications department of a university, I always told media outlets not to quote me though sometimes they did anyway.
 
2013-07-13 11:34:02 AM

MattyFridays: italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....

Two of them had their spinal cords severed and will in wheelchairs for life.

Remember: Just because you hear "injuries" doesn't mean everyone is going to be walking away OK after a few days in the hospital.  Injuries can be mean life-changing horrific stuff that gets under-reported.

A car accident victim can walk away from a crash but be suffering from nerve pains for the rest of their life.  It happens.



Did the word "Surviving" somehow negate the injuries sustained by the survivors?

An airplane had it's tail and gears sheared off during a landing, performed a lopsided cartwheeled on the ground, and burst into flames. 305 of 307 people still breathing 1 week later is astounding, regardless of their physical state.


/181 people taken to the hospital, 49 were in serious condition or worse.
//Only four people, FOUR, are currently in critical today.
///Words cannot describe how amazingly low those numbers are considering the circumstances.
 
2013-07-13 11:34:48 AM
Damn you Subby: You made me both laugh and nearly cry over the headline! Quit messin with my emotions, lol!
 
2013-07-13 11:36:44 AM

Kyosuke: By openly telling the truth? I never realized that CYA worked that way.


how about PCYA? (presumptive cover your ass)

or PCTA (presumptive cover their ass)
 
2013-07-13 11:38:40 AM

Bit'O'Gristle: Sad about the girl who got ran over by the truck, but even if she wasn't already dead from getting thrown out of the plane at 100 plus knots, when they covered her with foam it would have smothered her.


I do wonder where she was in relation to the plane, and why it was smothered in foam if a truck was driving there.

shiat, if it was so dangerous as to need a carpet of foam, then why was the truck driving through there?

The foam thing just sounds CYAish.

/not saying conspiracy, just would like to know the odds of getting run over in a similar freakish incident since it's all about me
 
2013-07-13 11:45:36 AM

Kyosuke: By openly telling the truth? I never realized that CYA worked that way.


the professional response should've been, "our investigation concerning the order of events is still ongoing. the official coroner's report, that isn't complete yet, will be a part of that investigation".

to mention one or two known facts at this time, without awareness as to how they fit into the big picture, could shift the focus of the investigation.

and it's not a cover-up and it's not hiding information if you want to make sure that the investigation is complete and thorough before you release any information.

let the internet speculate all they want, but if you start dropping tidbits of incomplete info, you'll either just fan the flames of conspiracy/cover-up theories, or you'll be seen as attempting to sway public opinion (as is what's happening here).
 
2013-07-13 11:46:11 AM
resources2.news.com.au
 
2013-07-13 11:57:07 AM
Wow! That's really amazing the last victim's name was Sum Yung Gil because the victim really was... ohhhhh :-(
 
2013-07-13 12:04:12 PM

Delay: ggecko: For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.

Wow. That's uncommonly stupid for a SF Bay Area station.


Hardly.
 
2013-07-13 12:04:35 PM

rhiannon: [resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]


So she came out the top of the plane? The one that got run over? In the various pictures, it looks like virtually all the foam is right under the forward end of the fuselage.

I'm not saying they are lying about the foam, and I think they probably shouldn't have said anything until they knew something.  It's just an odd story, to get run over by the fire truck in what is a freakish but somehow survivable crash.
 
2013-07-13 12:13:44 PM
italie:
//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....



Sounds like Porsche in the 70's and 80's.

Dead car battery at the drop of a hat.
 
2013-07-13 12:20:08 PM

legion_of_doo: rhiannon: [resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]

So she came out the top of the plane? The one that got run over? In the various pictures, it looks like virtually all the foam is right under the forward end of the fuselage.

I'm not saying they are lying about the foam, and I think they probably shouldn't have said anything until they knew something.  It's just an odd story, to get run over by the fire truck in what is a freakish but somehow survivable crash.


I have no idea. There were more trucks, and more foam, and more foam with truck tire tracks through it.
 
2013-07-13 12:28:07 PM

legion_of_doo: rhiannon: [resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]

So she came out the top of the plane? The one that got run over? In the various pictures, it looks like virtually all the foam is right under the forward end of the fuselage.

I'm not saying they are lying about the foam, and I think they probably shouldn't have said anything until they knew something.  It's just an odd story, to get run over by the fire truck in what is a freakish but somehow survivable crash.


The whole thing was odd, so even if these firefighters had general experience, they had probably never experienced this kind of scenario before. I'm sure they had training with how to deal with plane accidents and crashes in a broad, theoretical way, but I doubt anything they trained for specifically and in great detail covered this exact situation, and it's doubtful they ever had a real life experience doing this before, so they could have just gone in there, making snap decisions about what would be best to do. They were probably thinking of saving the most people possible. The idea of watching out for people who could have been thrown from the plane and survived that might not have occurred to them with a crash like this, and even if it had, who knows what slowing everything down to get her out of the way would have done for the chances of everybody else still trapped inside.

Plane crashes don't happen all that frequently, and different planes crash differently. I don't think there's ever been a crash quite like this with that kind of plane, so I don't they would know exactly what the absolute best thing to do would be. It's sad, but in intense, unusual emergencies, shiat happens. I'm sure they'll be poring over this later so that future fire fighters and emergency responders can have better training.
 
2013-07-13 12:34:33 PM

ggecko: For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.


Ho Li Clap!
 
2013-07-13 12:42:44 PM

ggecko: And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.



unknown at this point who supplied the names.

the station called the NTSB to 'verify' the names. which leads to more speculation about the origin of the names.
 
2013-07-13 12:55:13 PM
KTVU has also reported the names of the fire truck drivers as being Mi No Si and Goh Tu Phast
 
2013-07-13 01:44:41 PM
R.I.P. Sum Yung Gil

i1207.photobucket.com
 
2013-07-13 02:25:47 PM

Curious: rhiannon: Who's she?

FTFA: "One of those teenagers was hit on the runway by a fire truck, though it's not clear whether she was already dead when she was struck, San Francisco police spokesman Albie Esparza told CNN on Friday."

1) the police spokesman was doing CYA for the fire fighters.

2) this article doesn't have her name.


They don't have her name because the family asked it not to be released.  The autopsy isn't being done by the City/County of SF SFO is only "San Francisco" in a weird gerrymandered way  San Mateo County  did the autopsy I don't think they help in a cover up or care SFFD will have to pay out millions even if she was already dead.
 
2013-07-13 02:47:53 PM
If only they worked in an area with a large Asian population, they'd have been less likely to make mistakes like this...
 
2013-07-13 02:49:41 PM
images1.wikia.nocookie.net

RIP Gil
 
2013-07-13 02:51:03 PM

ggecko: For those that missed the video (it is freaking hilarious):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obpN0KZ-Qo0


And FWIW, an intern at the NTSB supplied the names.



Some of my closest friends and coworkers are Asian, so I actually do feel pretty crappy about laughing at those.
 
2013-07-13 02:55:40 PM
it was an intern at KTVU
 
2013-07-13 03:57:12 PM
Like stepping on a ketchup packet.
 
2013-07-13 04:16:19 PM
www.kintera.org
"Yeah, we drive planes and firetrucks. What's so funny?"
 
2013-07-13 04:18:06 PM

ambercat: Plane crashes don't happen all that frequently, and different planes crash differently.


Yeah, but avoiding debris is pretty standard. Including human debris. Car accidents with people being ejected aren't uncommon.

I just wonder where she got ejected. I wonder where it was that she ended up.

In one of the other crash threads, there's supposedly some pilot who said there were two people who were ejected like 1000-1500 feet away from the plane. Those aren't necessarily the ones who died or the one that got run over, of course, but I'm curious to know the facts.
 
2013-07-13 04:26:17 PM
 
2013-07-13 04:54:34 PM

Kyosuke: MattyFridays: italie: Sad, but 304 of 307 surviving gross incompetence @ 100 mph is pretty good.

//Boeing builds great air frames.
///Electrical systems, not so much....

Two of them had their spinal cords severed and will in wheelchairs for life.

Remember: Just because you hear "injuries" doesn't mean everyone is going to be walking away OK after a few days in the hospital.  Injuries can be mean life-changing horrific stuff that gets under-reported.

A car accident victim can walk away from a crash but be suffering from nerve pains for the rest of their life.  It happens.

[a1.vsoh.com image 300x243]


Hi Deb! What's cookin'?
 
2013-07-13 09:50:01 PM

ambercat: legion_of_doo: rhiannon: [resources2.news.com.au image 650x366]

So she came out the top of the plane? The one that got run over? In the various pictures, it looks like virtually all the foam is right under the forward end of the fuselage.

I'm not saying they are lying about the foam, and I think they probably shouldn't have said anything until they knew something.  It's just an odd story, to get run over by the fire truck in what is a freakish but somehow survivable crash.

The whole thing was odd, so even if these firefighters had general experience, they had probably never experienced this kind of scenario before. I'm sure they had training with how to deal with plane accidents and crashes in a broad, theoretical way, but I doubt anything they trained for specifically and in great detail covered this exact situation, and it's doubtful they ever had a real life experience doing this before, so they could have just gone in there, making snap decisions about what would be best to do. They were probably thinking of saving the most people possible. The idea of watching out for people who could have been thrown from the plane and survived that might not have occurred to them with a crash like this, and even if it had, who knows what slowing everything down to get her out of the way would have done for the chances of everybody else still trapped inside.

Plane crashes don't happen all that frequently, and different planes crash differently. I don't think there's ever been a crash quite like this with that kind of plane, so I don't they would know exactly what the absolute best thing to do would be. It's sad, but in intense, unusual emergencies, shiat happens. I'm sure they'll be poring over this later so that future fire fighters and emergency responders can have better training.


I'd bet you're on the right track.  I could easily see the driver looking up at the burning fuselage, instead of down on the ground...be a perfectly natural reaction.

Poor bastard must feel lower than whale shiat right now.  Frankly, I hope she WAS dead before he hit her...that'd help, a little.
 
2013-07-14 08:43:33 AM

legion_of_doo: I just wonder where she got ejected.


Hard to say.

I wonder where it was that she ended up.

Under the fire truck.
 
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