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(Yahoo)   Malala Yousafzai, the Pakistani girl who was shot in the head by the Taliban, marked her 16th birthday with a passionate speech at the United Nations on Friday in which she said education could change the world   (news.yahoo.com) divider line 125
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2013-07-13 11:33:02 AM  
How many of the UN ambassadors actually listened?  Members/ambassadors of most of the world's countries don't give a shiat about what she said, especially for women.
 
2013-07-13 11:37:20 AM  

Pumpernickel bread: I admire her for her bravery, but I am pessimistic about there being any meaningful change in the region anytime soon. Just a couple of weeks ago a couple of sisters in Pakistan were the victims of an honor killing because they made a video of themselves dancing in the rain. Somehow, it is dishonorable to have playful happy daughters over there


If such a region were to be nuked to the point where it cannot be inhabited by humans for a very long time...how long would it take for the number of killings that had been prevented would outnumber those killed in the sterilization?
 
2013-07-13 12:52:11 PM  
But if you give girls an education they will know there is more to life than being a baby factory for an alcoholic goat farker.
 
2013-07-13 01:00:14 PM  
Not to pick, but ...

... the Nazis educated their children. Radical jihadists educate their children. PLO is educating their children.

www.think-israel.org

Education is not the answer.  What kids learn is the answer.
 
2013-07-13 01:22:10 PM  

Clemkadidlefark: Education is not the answer.  What kids learn is the answer.


Fair enough.  Let's go for reading, writing, 'rithmatic, science, history, and critical thinking.  Teach those properly (i.e. honestly), and the kids will turn out OK.
 
2013-07-13 01:28:12 PM  

Pumpernickel bread: I admire her for her bravery, but I am pessimistic about there being any meaningful change in the region anytime soon. Just a couple of weeks ago a couple of sisters in Pakistan were the victims of an honor killing because they made a video of themselves dancing in the rain. Somehow, it is dishonorable to have playful happy daughters over there


I think that we can make meaningful changes inn the region.  We just need to mobilize every able-bodied soldier in our military, line them up and march across the entire country, killing every male over the age of 5.   Other than that or some equally drastic option then you are right, the region is probably not going to change.
 
2013-07-13 01:32:38 PM  

Mock26: I think that we can make meaningful changes inn the region. We just need to mobilize every able-bodied soldier in our military, line them up and march across the entire country, killing every male over the age of 5. Other than that or some equally drastic option then you are right, the region is probably not going to change.


The islamic world can must a larger army that we can, and the Saudis can afford to equip them.
 
2013-07-13 02:07:15 PM  

spawn73: Her voice is super annoying. I had to change channels whenever she came back on.

Being shot in the head is random. Good for her that she survived, but it doesn't qualify her for speaking in the UN.


True, but she is more articulate than Gabby Giffords.
 
2013-07-13 02:37:43 PM  

Truther: Clint_Torres: But seriously, good for her. She is 100% correct, even if it will never come to fruition in her lifetime. You want change in Taliban controlled areas? Start executing any Taliban or extreme Muslim. I know, I know...an eye for an eye, yadda yadda yadda. But those people are bottom of the barrel and do not deserve to breathe the same air as sane and rational people.

I feel the same way about some Catholics, the Church of Scientology, WBC, and any other hardline dumbasses that hide behind religion. Most religions are a plague on society. Get rid of them.

Holy crap.

You are equal parts ignorance and scary.

/you sound Talibanish


*checks profile*

Nope. Not going to bite.

i28.photobucket.com

I'll give you a two, only because you almost suckered me in.

Almost.
 
2013-07-13 02:47:57 PM  
I hope 16-year-olds in this neck of the woods watch this.

When I was 16 I was worried about missing a NHS meeting or whether or not I hid that bong well enough.

Awesome speech (the god stuff is not my thing...but whatever gets you through getting shot in the farking head). I like seeing good news like this.
 
2013-07-13 03:06:01 PM  

TV's Vinnie: The Taliban and christian fundamentalists both hate and fear the educated mind.


If you can't see the difference between the Taliban and the Christian fundamentalists, your "education" is nothing more than egotism.  Pick a side or GTFO.
 
2013-07-13 03:19:30 PM  
Want to change the world?

Stop having so many kids then you f*cking morons.

Specifically -

China, India, Brazil and sub Saharan Africa are going to destroy the world at this rate. Too many people. Not enough resources.
 
2013-07-13 03:21:08 PM  

Gulper Eel: Hermione_Granger: I challenge you to read her whole speech without the room getting dusty.

Nice speech. Well-intentioned and completely pointless.

Invoking Gandhi is not a magical sainthood card. Gandhi was up against the British, who had at least a passing acquaintance with basic human dignity. If Gandhi had challenged the Taliban they would have cut his head off and showed us the video.

The speech doesn't accomplish jack shiat.

Not a one of the people who need to heed Malala's message the most give a damn. They have continued their attacks on girls and it would surprise me not in the least if they doubled down. Back in Pakistan the street-loons with Korans jammed down their shorts think the whole thing is an American plot.

The Taliban need nothing so much as a good killing - preferably by a combined strike force of gays, Jews, atheists, musicians, artists, librarians, pig farmers and strippers.


I'd personally favour a 2 week bombardment of porn, hashish, and cheetohs followed up by infiltrating a handpicked brigade of voluptuous IDF lesbians schooled in erotic combat.
 
2013-07-13 03:29:37 PM  

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: See You Next Tuesday: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Only your handcrafted cappuccino stand between us and total anarchy.

Really? Remind us who kicked your ass in the Civil War, please.

Military members come from all over the nation, Randy or Cletus or Bubba.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Definition of NON SEQUITUR 1: an inference that does not follow from the premises;specifically : a fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent
2: a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said   [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 275x183]

Please take another spin .


Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Yeah BFD ! Did she get a call from President Obama for her courageous stance ?
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Yeah ,I didn't think so !


Talk about a non sequitur...
 
2013-07-13 03:37:29 PM  

Sentimental Gentleman: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: See You Next Tuesday: Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Only your handcrafted cappuccino stand between us and total anarchy.

Really? Remind us who kicked your ass in the Civil War, please.

Military members come from all over the nation, Randy or Cletus or Bubba.

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Definition of NON SEQUITUR 1: an inference that does not follow from the premises;specifically : a fallacy resulting from a simple conversion of a universal affirmative proposition or from the transposition of a condition and its consequent
2: a statement (as a response) that does not follow logically from or is not clearly related to anything previously said   [encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com image 275x183]

Please take another spin .

Dr.Mxyzptlk.: Yeah BFD ! Did she get a call from President Obama for her courageous stance ?
[encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com image 299x168]
Yeah ,I didn't think so !

Talk about a non sequitur...


Well did he ?
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//Stop she can't vote .
 
2013-07-13 03:43:55 PM  

Mouser: TV's Vinnie: The Taliban and christian fundamentalists both hate and fear the educated mind.

If you can't see the difference between the Taliban and the Christian fundamentalists, your "education" is nothing more than egotism.  Pick a side or GTFO.


Definitely the Christian fundies aren't so inclined to use violence.  OTOH some of them are trying to get laws passed in this country that would force their beliefs on others, so I see them as a more immediate (if much less lethal) threat to individual freedom.

/For example, their attacks on science absolutely do have the possibility of having a negative impact on me
 
2013-07-13 04:32:22 PM  

Mouser: TV's Vinnie: The Taliban and christian fundamentalists both hate and fear the educated mind.

If you can't see the difference between the Taliban and the Christian fundamentalists, your "education" is nothing more than egotism.  Pick a side or GTFO.


Make no mistake, chump. The fundies in this country would be executing gays, kids who sass back at their parents, and women who wear slacks 24/7 if they thought they could get away with it.

The only difference for now is that our Founding Fathers were smart enough to put in Constitutional barriers to keep these Domonionist psychos from having an easy coup.
 
2013-07-13 04:54:37 PM  

DoomPaul: I applaud her, but I really do wonder how such a change can be enacted in countries that are so steeped in violence and repressive towards women. Women rally for rights in Pakistan and mobs of thousands of men come down and attack them. Girls try to to get an education in Afghanistan and they are brutally murdered. I don't see how change can come easily when someone is willing to shoot a kid just because they want to learn how to read.


Well, no, I don't see how change can come EASILY, either.  But I think she's right in that the best (and possibly only) long-term solution involves education.

There may be also, sadly, a need to use guns and tanks and bombs.  But guns and tanks and bombs alone will not solve the problem.  You can't get rid of groups like the Taliban just by hunting down and killing every last member, because there would always be more people willing to join them.
 
2013-07-13 04:58:24 PM  
Lady Indica: Honestly, in the US I *never* thought we'd see gay rights come this far. I went to HS in the late 1980s. My freshman year it was *seriously* discussed in my honors science class ...that homosexuals should be sent to camps because of AIDS. Not just people with the virus. All homosexuals. The teacher was part of this discussion. Oh and that they should also be visibly tattooed, so if/when they were allowed to move outside the 'camps' people would know who they were. Memory hazy, but either I (or more likely someone else and I'm misremembering it) pointed out the obvious correllaries to the Holocaust.

They insisted it was entirely different.

20 years ago..ish. The change in gay rights in this country has been nothing short of extraordinary.


Don't misunderstand me.  I agree that there has been a big change in that time.  But it is worth pointing out that those people are not completely gone.
 
2013-07-13 04:59:47 PM  

God-is-a-Taco: I closed the video after she thanked god and then thanked people who prayed for her. Not the medics, surgeons, emergency personnel, and others who worked in tandem to save her life. She's full of the same ignorance she wants to fight.
Nice pink outfit, though.


Speaking of being full of the same ignorance one wants to fight, have you ever heard of false equivalence?
 
2013-07-13 05:08:36 PM  

cherryl taggart: How much money would it take to send a plane or two over to some of these places that think women are a burden, and offer to relocate all those troublesome females far, far away so that the male types left can live in peace?


I doubt there's much that they'd disapprove of more than their women and girls living free, educated, and probably secular lives some far-off place over which they had no control.  Except maybe seeing their women and girls living free, educated, and probably secular lives right next to them (presumably behind giant see-through walls they couldn't shoot through).

Besides, who would be their slaves if not women?  You can't teach a goat to cook a decent kebab.
 
2013-07-13 09:28:47 PM  

The All-Powerful Atheismo: But can she make a sandwich?

/you knew it was coming


And does she know which end of a beer to open?
 
2013-07-14 02:05:09 AM  
.... and 90% of these "delegates" clapped politely and then went back home to their oppressive states to beat their wives/daughters/whatever. The end.
 
2013-07-14 12:00:58 PM  

flypusher713: Clemkadidlefark: Education is not the answer.  What kids learn is the answer.

Fair enough.  Let's go for reading, writing, 'rithmatic, science, history, and critical thinking.  Teach those properly (i.e. honestly), and the kids will turn out OK.


100%
 
2013-07-14 03:46:51 PM  
If you have an education then you can read. If you can read then you can read the Koran. If you can read the Koran then you know the will of God. If you know the will of God then you can teach it to your children. How can any good Muslim have a problem with that?
 
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