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(Torrent Freak)   Google: we support on-line pirates. Well, OK, we don't /support/ them but we like them better than those entertainment industry ninjas   (torrentfreak.com) divider line 13
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3270 clicks; posted to Geek » on 12 Jul 2013 at 3:53 PM (39 weeks ago)   |  Favorite    |   share:  Share on Twitter share via Email Share on Facebook   more»



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2013-07-12 03:58:31 PM
6 votes:
"The RIAA has pointed out on several occasions that pirate search results still rank higher than legitimate stores."

I dunno, maybe your legitimate stores suck, are difficult to use, or don't offer what consumers want. Have you considered any of those may be the reason you're outranked by "piracy" websites?
2013-07-13 09:02:21 AM
1 votes:
My standing response to any of the thrashing done by the movie industry over piracy is pretty simple:  Offer me an effective means of streaming your brand new releases in 1080p onto my TV for under $20 a pop and I will use it.

I don't care for the theaters anymore (for both the price point and the experience) yet there's several titles I really enjoy watching.  So instead I wait a bit, rent the blurays for $2/each and let DVDfab have 'at er.  They're losing $18 on every movie that they could get from people like me.  Too bad for them I guess.
2013-07-12 08:22:08 PM
1 votes:

worlddan: Fark_Guy_Rob: .

I'd trace back the IPs - ignoring all the ones that aren't from a middle/middle-middle class neighborhood in the United States.  I'd be able to determine the ISP - so I'd just need a lawyer to send in a demand for their access logs or something, however the RIAA does it - to get back to specific ISP customers....then I sue them.  I'd offer them the option to settle out of court for a few grand.

Except, it's already been done and the courts are not to happy about it. Do some serious reading on here

http://www.popehat.com/tag/prenda-law/


HeartBurnKid: This sounds eerily similar to the scheme that Prenda Law is currently receiving an extended judicial beatdown for employing.


That.

No seriously, start all the way at the bottom and go all the way to the top.

/Though most of what they're getting beat down for is failing to mention to the judge that the lawyers representing the copyright owners in court were in fact the copyright owners.  And the identity fraud they used to hide the fact.
2013-07-12 08:06:23 PM
1 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: Summer Glau's Love Slave: r1niceboy: The RIAA and MPAA will have to wash their robes, draw a fresh pentagram, and convene a new meeting to decide what to do about all this.

[inklake.typepad.com image 494x370]
What an RIAA/MPAA meeting may look like.

/Nah, they'll just whine and cry like big, fat babies.
//They need to adapt to the 21st Century.
///Or die out.
////If you're suing your client base then you're doing it wrong.

In all seriousness - I'm surprised more people haven't follow their lead.  *I've* been thinking about doing it myself, but I'm guessing I wouldn't have the legal clout to get anything going.  Basically, I'd record me singing 12 songs and put it on a 'CD'.  I'd pay to have 10 copies made and make a legit website for my new music label.

Then, 'someone' would leak it to the internet.  It might even be mislabeled....who knows.  The torrents might be marked as 'fake' after enough downloads, but whatever.  I don't need a lot.  Naturally 'someone' would seed them log the IPs of everyone who illegally downloads my CD.  I'd also regularly try to download it from torrent sites and log the IP of everyone sharing it.

I'd trace back the IPs - ignoring all the ones that aren't from a middle/middle-middle class neighborhood in the United States.  I'd be able to determine the ISP - so I'd just need a lawyer to send in a demand for their access logs or something, however the RIAA does it - to get back to specific ISP customers....then I sue them.  I'd offer them the option to settle out of court for a few grand.


This sounds eerily similar to the scheme that Prenda Law is currently receiving an extended judicial beatdown for employing.
2013-07-12 07:35:29 PM
1 votes:
It's pretty simple, isn't it? They know which side their bread is buttered on. If they cut out the pirate searches, then DuckDuckGo or some other search engine will get their business.

Google ain't stupid.
2013-07-12 06:13:39 PM
1 votes:

Fark_Guy_Rob: .

I'd trace back the IPs - ignoring all the ones that aren't from a middle/middle-middle class neighborhood in the United States.  I'd be able to determine the ISP - so I'd just need a lawyer to send in a demand for their access logs or something, however the RIAA does it - to get back to specific ISP customers....then I sue them.  I'd offer them the option to settle out of court for a few grand.


Except, it's already been done and the courts are not to happy about it. Do some serious reading on here

http://www.popehat.com/tag/prenda-law/
2013-07-12 06:10:49 PM
1 votes:
Google has to deal with 51,400,000 "legal" requests from these guys. I'm sure google is just eager to jump through any more hoops for them.
2013-07-12 05:46:23 PM
1 votes:
Google doesn't have to filter the sites it indexes any more than the Yellow Pages should have to monitor the businesses it lists.

Someone doing something illegal? That's their problem, and the guy listing their contact info doesn't have a hand in it.
2013-07-12 05:14:44 PM
1 votes:

r1niceboy: The RIAA and MPAA will have to wash their robes, draw a fresh pentagram, and convene a new meeting to decide what to do about all this.


inklake.typepad.com
What an RIAA/MPAA meeting may look like.

/Nah, they'll just whine and cry like big, fat babies.
//They need to adapt to the 21st Century.
///Or die out.
////If you're suing your client base then you're doing it wrong.
2013-07-12 05:00:43 PM
1 votes:
The RIAA and MPAA will have to wash their robes, draw a fresh pentagram, and convene a new meeting to decide what to do about all this.
2013-07-12 04:19:01 PM
1 votes:
If Google removes the pirated sites there are a lot of people who are going to turn to another search engine.  Even if it's only rarely that they search for pirated content - lots and lots of people do it rarely.  There is an entire generation of people who are only vaguely aware that there are other ways *other* than Google to search net.
2013-07-12 04:08:36 PM
1 votes:

graeth: Google already scrubs results from searches; anything that contains pirated material or has to possibility.
Even in verbatim searches, it even notifies you at the bottom of the page.


That's only for stuff that it's been given a DMCA notice about.  Google's refusing to delist whole websites, not just individual urls.
2013-07-12 04:06:53 PM
1 votes:
Google already scrubs results from searches; anything that contains pirated material or has to possibility.
Even in verbatim searches, it even notifies you at the bottom of the page.
 
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