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(Chron)   Fresh on the heels of acquitting the guy who beat a puppy to death with a baseball bat, Iowa's Supreme Court Rules it is okay to fire an employee because she's so hot you are worried you might try to have an affair with her   (chron.com) divider line 65
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2013-07-12 11:41:37 AM
10 votes:
As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?
2013-07-12 12:52:39 PM
4 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: Of course, it's always the harlot's fault for causing her brothers in Christ to stumble. I bet she even wore clothes that exposed her ankles, causing him to sin by having impure thoughts.

/been reading a lot lately on patriarchal Christianity and the purity/modesty culture. It's disgusting how they put blame solely on women for men's actions.



You want a really interesting anthropological/Historical perspective on that, that I stumbled across years ago that to me explains everything?

The concept of fatherhood is more or less entirely to blame for women's lack of equality, the patriarchal modesty culture, the whole 9  yards.

If you think about it, Becuase there is a 9-month lag between cause and effect, the male role in creating children is not an inheriently obvious concept, and it took cultures around the world vary degrees of time to figure it out.   Before they did women tended to have a degree of sexual, and economic freedom and equality that disappaered afterwards.  You can basically trace when this happend across cultures by pinpointing the shift from the worship of the female Mother Goddesses, to the creation of a pantheon of Male sky-gods who took leadership over the female goddesses (Some folklorists/archaeologists believe he reason Zeus and Hera seem to always hate each other's guts is that the Greek myths in the form that was passed down to us contain echoes of that shift in worship and the hard feeling it caused among the priests of the older order).

One of the few societies in which we have recorded history/mythology from before that switch took place is the Celtic societies of Ireland and Britain, particularly in the Myth cycles of King Math from what would eventually become Wales.   In the oldest stories it is clear that a concept of fatherhood does not exist in that society.   Inheritance (just like in early Jewish society for instance) is Matrilineal, even for male positions of power.  For example, the kingship is passed from Uncle to Nephew ( from a man to his sister's son in other words).  And when we look at thier societety we see lots of tales of women interacting as equals with men and hold roles were later think of as male only.

Cú Chulainn , for example is the early celtic version of Batman, the greatest warrior, by far, or his age, but it's significant that all the legends credit Scáthach, a Scottish (Dalridian) female cheiftan, as being the one who taught him how to fight and gave him all his skill at arms (and who took him as a lover for a while)

And it all makes sense.  When children are just something women spontaneously generate, there is not real reason to try to control thier every movement, who they sleep with etc.  But the minute you realize the connection between sex and fatherhood, the only way for a male to ensure that the kids he is raising are actually HIS is to have enough control over his women that they have no opportunity to mate with anyone else.  This means keeping them more or less confined to the homestead and limited in what they can and cannot do.
2013-07-12 11:43:06 AM
4 votes:

Drew P Balls: Thank goodness for right to work legislation.  I think it may have saved that dentist's marriage.


And what a marriage it is too!

"Honey, I wanted to have an affair with an attractive woman."
"WHAT???"
"But it's OK! I fired her!"
"Oh, well, OK then. Because I know for a fact that the only way you would ever meet another attractive woman is if she worked for you."

They must be fundies. This sounds like a "remove the temptation" thing that would sound completely reasonable and logical to people like that.
2013-07-12 11:35:09 AM
4 votes:
Well if there's a disability to have, being so hot that people want to have affairs with you is the one to get.
2013-07-12 12:33:21 PM
3 votes:
It's sad really. She didn't do anything wrong, yet gets fired cause her boss is a horn dog who can't stop thinking about banging her. Sounds more like he wanted to fark her, and she was not willing. And what is even sadder, is court found against her, but now that the PUBLIC is angry at a clear violation of her rights as an employee, they are reconsidering. WTF. Do the right thing in the first place, make that asshole pay for lost wages, mental anguish, and whatever else you can think of. She worked for you for 10 years, just because you wanna bang her and she doesn't want you is no cause for termination.

/fark you supreme douchebags.
2013-07-12 12:15:47 PM
3 votes:
I have only 2 things:

She should be insulted that the presumption is that she would roll over for this guy at his whim.

Guys should be insulted that this guy has made a precedent that men have no impulse control and it is a woman's fault that they can't control themselves.

/had to check twice that this wasn't in the Middle East
2013-07-12 12:10:12 PM
3 votes:
So basically, if you're a relatively attractive woman you should find another dentist because this dude has no impulse control. The other dentists in the city should put that on a billboard.
2013-07-12 11:47:32 AM
3 votes:

hardinparamedic: How, in the hell, is this not gender discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Can someone who has a GED in Law Explain this to me?


Well, from the ruling, it's based on attraction, not gender. He could just as easily have fired a man whom he felt unduly attracted to.

This is the same supreme court that legalized gay marriage in the state, so they have a track record of not taking gender into account.

I guess the reality that there are more heterosexual males in positions of power and therefore more women that can legally be fired for hotness doesn't matter.

So now I guess the gameplan is: hit on the hotties, but not in an overtly obvious way (so they can't sue for sexual harrassment). If they don't respond positively, fire the biatches. If they complain, cite the Iowa supreme court. Say that they threatened your marriage/peace of mind/whatever. Then the other hotties will see what the score is and learn to play ball or hit the road. Life is good.
2013-07-12 11:38:13 AM
3 votes:
Well that's awfully nice of him to state, for the record in court, that he has absolutely no control over his sex drive whatsoever.
2013-07-12 01:47:18 PM
2 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: That actually is a pretty interesting explanation for it. But if you were to ask someone in the culture I was referencing, today, you know how they would explain it? It all goes back to Eve "causing" Adam to sin. They really think men have so little self control that they can't resist our "feminine wiles." That belief system is so offensive to both genders. Now, I don't know if the guy in TFA ascribes to those beliefs, but it sure sounds like he does.


Exactly.  Once a woman's virginity became property of the male authority figure in her life, HE not her was the wronged party if that was taken away, and blaing the woman became part and parcel of that.

In the old Welsh myth cycle I referenced there is actually is a pretty significant story that centers around a rape.  Gywdion, the heir to King math (and later big hero of the cycle) rapes one of the King's "footwarmers".  What's interesting is what heppens next.  First, it's clear that rape is a very rare occurance in that society (some versions say it was the first one ever)  second there's not even the slightest hint of blaming the victim, accusing her of  enticing the hero, that somehow it's the king who has been wronged etc.  Instead the Wizard-King Math essentially says to Gwydion "If you are going to act like a rutting animal with no self control your get to BE an animal" and makes him spend a year and a day each as one of seven different animals before allowing him to revert to human form again.

Now, compare that to how rape is treated in, say Leviticus, where first you have to make sure the woman cried out loud enough that two witnesses heard her, or she just a filthly fornicator, and then, if rape is proved, the rapist is "punished" by having to marry his victim  (basically allowing her father to be rid of what are otherwise dmaged goods)
2013-07-12 01:14:54 PM
2 votes:

Magorn: I should be in the kitchen: Of course, it's always the harlot's fault for causing her brothers in Christ to stumble. I bet she even wore clothes that exposed her ankles, causing him to sin by having impure thoughts.

/been reading a lot lately on patriarchal Christianity and the purity/modesty culture. It's disgusting how they put blame solely on women for men's actions.


You want a really interesting anthropological/Historical perspective on that, that I stumbled across years ago that to me explains everything?

The concept of fatherhood is more or less entirely to blame for women's lack of equality, the patriarchal modesty culture, the whole 9  yards.

If you think about it, Becuase there is a 9-month lag between cause and effect, the male role in creating children is not an inheriently obvious concept, and it took cultures around the world vary degrees of time to figure it out.   Before they did women tended to have a degree of sexual, and economic freedom and equality that disappaered afterwards.  You can basically trace when this happend across cultures by pinpointing the shift from the worship of the female Mother Goddesses, to the creation of a pantheon of Male sky-gods who took leadership over the female goddesses (Some folklorists/archaeologists believe he reason Zeus and Hera seem to always hate each other's guts is that the Greek myths in the form that was passed down to us contain echoes of that shift in worship and the hard feeling it caused among the priests of the older order).

One of the few societies in which we have recorded history/mythology from before that switch took place is the Celtic societies of Ireland and Britain, particularly in the Myth cycles of King Math from what would eventually become Wales.   In the oldest stories it is clear that a concept of fatherhood does not exist in that society.   Inheritance (just like in early Jewish society for instance) is Matrilineal, even for male positions of power.  For example, the kingship is passed from Uncle to Nephew ( from a man to his sister's son in other words).  And when we look at thier societety we see lots of tales of women interacting as equals with men and hold roles were later think of as male only.

Cú Chulainn , for example is the early celtic version of Batman, the greatest warrior, by far, or his age, but it's significant that all the legends credit Scáthach, a Scottish (Dalridian) female cheiftan, as being the one who taught him how to fight and gave him all his skill at arms (and who took him as a lover for a while)

And it all makes sense.  When children are just something women spontaneously generate, there is not real reason to try to control thier every movement, who they sleep with etc.  But the minute you realize the connection between sex and fatherhood, the only way for a male to ensure that the kids he is raising are actually HIS is to have enough control over his women that they have no opportunity to mate with anyone else.  This means keeping them more or less confined to the homestead and limited in what they can and cannot do.


That actually is a pretty interesting explanation for it. But if you were to ask someone in the culture I was referencing, today, you know how they would explain it? It all goes back to Eve "causing" Adam to sin. They really think men have so little self control that they can't resist our "feminine wiles." That belief system is so offensive to both genders. Now, I don't know if the guy in TFA ascribes to those beliefs, but it sure sounds like he does.
2013-07-12 12:42:29 PM
2 votes:

WhippingBoy: Ozone_Ranger: Guys should be insulted that this guy has made a precedent that men have no impulse control and it is a woman's fault that they can't control themselves

No. This is one stupid guy. Only a drooling moran would take his actions to be indicative of "[all] men".
- if a particular man murders somebody, does that mean that men are killers?
- if a particular man cheats on his taxes, does that mean that men are dishonest?


You act like no one on Fark has ever attempted to judge all members of a particular group for the actions of a few.
2013-07-12 12:22:57 PM
2 votes:

Belias: "She smells like bananas, and I hate bananas", "He looked at me funny", and "those fingernails are an odd shade of green" are also not valid causes for discrimination suits.  If you don't like the store's policies, don't work there, don't shop there, and feel free to peacefully picket with signs of "Asshole in charge here" - he certainly seems to fit the bill.

However, we really  really don't want the government telling us who we can hire/fire.  "Attractive" is not a protected class.

Where do you folks find the seemingly endless fount of outrage to spend on these cases?


Um, we find it in our inherent sense of dignity and empathy for our fellow citizens, regardless of race, creed, or hotness?
2013-07-12 12:06:43 PM
2 votes:

Magorn: Well, it CAN be an impediment to productivity in the office.  When running a team of contractors at a fed agency  I once hired a girl (on the basis of a telphone interview ironically enough)  so incandescantly hot, she even made me a little weak in the knees to look at her.  At the end of the first week I actually had to have a sit-down with the Center Director (gov side) to tell him that he needed to put a leash on half of his senior staff, as my employee was being pestered by very senior GS-14& 15 Kawyers and managers who kept stopping by her desk to offer to "show her around", "Train" her (my job), or just "make sure she had all the supplies she needed" (a gs-15 who  didn't even know where the supply closet WAS mind you).

The day she came in dressed to go out clubbing later that night, I thanked all the gods that I'd actually worked as an Employment Dicrimination/Sexual Harrasmen lawyer on the Plaintiff's side for a summer, so I knew pretty much EXACTLY what I could and could not legally say, as I tried to make her aware that while we had no dress code,  a corset top and short skirt wasn't giving her the professional image she needed to maintain (and was causing physical pain to some of the horndogs in the office-but I didn't say that part)


You're totally doing it wrong. The first few days you're around her, you need to put out a strong "in the closet but HR and supervisors don't know" vibe. Use the "Name that color" Javascript app so that you can say things like "that's a nice shade of Apricot on your nail polish", or "Hawaiian tan shoes don't really go with those slacks".

Within 2 weeks, you can be staring at her cleavage from 8 inches away and she'll think you're displeased with the fabric of her top...
2013-07-12 11:54:14 AM
2 votes:

Tyrone Biggums: APPLICANT: Well, I type about 90 words a minute. I'm completely well-versed in all IBM and Macintosh programs.

GEORGE: (looking over her resume) Well Miss Coggins you're ah, obviously qualified for the job. You've all the necessary skills and experience. But you're extremely attractive. you're gorgeous. I'm looking at you, I can't even remember my name. So ah, I'm afraid this is not going to work out (he crumples her resume into a ball) Thanks for coming in.


Well, it CAN be an impediment to productivity in the office.  When running a team of contractors at a fed agency  I once hired a girl (on the basis of a telphone interview ironically enough)  so incandescantly hot, she even made me a little weak in the knees to look at her.  At the end of the first week I actually had to have a sit-down with the Center Director (gov side) to tell him that he needed to put a leash on half of his senior staff, as my employee was being pestered by very senior GS-14& 15 Kawyers and managers who kept stopping by her desk to offer to "show her around", "Train" her (my job), or just "make sure she had all the supplies she needed" (a gs-15 who  didn't even know where the supply closet WAS mind you).

The day she came in dressed to go out clubbing later that night, I thanked all the gods that I'd actually worked as an Employment Dicrimination/Sexual Harrasmen lawyer on the Plaintiff's side for a summer, so I knew pretty much EXACTLY what I could and could not legally say, as I tried to make her aware that while we had no dress code,  a corset top and short skirt wasn't giving her the professional image she needed to maintain (and was causing physical pain to some of the horndogs in the office-but I didn't say that part)
2013-07-12 11:51:13 AM
2 votes:
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www.culttv.plus.com    www.webwombat.com.au
2013-07-12 11:45:04 AM
2 votes:
The ruling upholds a judge's decision to dismiss a discrimination lawsuit filed against Fort Dodge dentist James Knight, who fired assistant Melissa Nelson, even while acknowledging she had been a stellar employee for 10 years. Knight and his wife believed that his attraction to Nelson - two decades younger than the dentist - had become a threat to their marriage. Nelson, now 33, was replaced by another woman; Knight had an all-female staff.

I'll bet that all-female staff got a little younger and cheaper to pay.

On the upside, Ms Nelson can now put on her resume "I was fired for being too pretty."

Interviewer: You worked there for 10 years?
Nelson: Yes. I was a stellar employee. I revamped the scheduling...
Interviewer: And he fired you after ten years for being too pretty?
Nelson: Yes. I also color coded the inventory to speed...
Interviewer: So, you were younger and you got prettier. What? Nu-boobs? Were you a young fatty?
Nelson: No! I just got so pretty that I was a threat to his marriage. Now, please. I would like to discuss my qualifications. I have a degree...
Interviewer: Well, here is our problem: Are you just going to continue to get prettier? If we hired you and you and in a few years, you achieve Anniston grade beauty, then we might have to fire you also. You can see our concern. So, do you anticipate getting prettier?
2013-07-12 11:41:40 AM
2 votes:
Stupid decision..
2013-07-12 11:39:30 AM
2 votes:
How, in the hell, is this not gender discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Can someone who has a GED in Law Explain this to me?
2013-07-12 03:09:16 PM
1 votes:

stuffy: As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?


THANK YOU, I HAVE BEEN SAYING THIS FOR YEARS.

/Also, did anyone else notice that she basically got fired for being sexually harassed? She never even answered most of those texts.
//I seriously hope she sues his ass off for that.
2013-07-12 02:29:06 PM
1 votes:

Ozone_Ranger: I have only 2 things:

She should be insulted that the presumption is that she would roll over for this guy at his whim.

Guys should be insulted that this guy has made a precedent that men have no impulse control and it is a woman's fault that they can't control themselves.

/had to check twice that this wasn't in the Middle East


Religious conservatives in EVERY religion are like this.  This is why atheism is catching on so quickly.  Young people assume that every religious person is a conservative nut-job and opt out.
2013-07-12 01:56:48 PM
1 votes:

Christian Bale: hardinparamedic: How, in the hell, is this not gender discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Can someone who has a GED in Law Explain this to me?

Well, from the ruling, it's based on attraction, not gender. He could just as easily have fired a man whom he felt unduly attracted to.

This is the same supreme court that legalized gay marriage in the state, so they have a track record of not taking gender into account.

I guess the reality that there are more heterosexual males in positions of power and therefore more women that can legally be fired for hotness doesn't matter.

So now I guess the gameplan is: hit on the hotties, but not in an overtly obvious way (so they can't sue for sexual harrassment). If they don't respond positively, fire the biatches. If they complain, cite the Iowa supreme court. Say that they threatened your marriage/peace of mind/whatever. Then the other hotties will see what the score is and learn to play ball or hit the road. Life is good.


" Cady said Nelson once told Knight that she wasn't having much sex and he responded, "That's like having a Lamborghini in the garage and not ever driving it." The dentist had also texted her asking how often she experienced orgasms (she did not respond) and complained that her body distracted him at work, once telling her that if she saw his pants bulging, that was a sign her clothes were too revealing. Knight also gave Nelson more favorable treatment than other workers, and she once texted him that she continued working there "because of you," he noted.
2013-07-12 01:33:58 PM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: Ozone_Ranger: Guys should be insulted that this guy has made a precedent that men have no impulse control and it is a woman's fault that they can't control themselves

No. This is one stupid guy. Only a drooling moran would take his actions to be indicative of "[all] men".
- if a particular man murders somebody, does that mean that men are killers?
- if a particular man cheats on his taxes, does that mean that men are dishonest?



This is now a legal precedent which can be cited in the future cases of horny employers who decide to fire attractive emplwho don't want to f#ck them.
2013-07-12 01:19:12 PM
1 votes:
"Cochrane said the court "over and over" noted that Nelson was fired because of a consensual workplace relationship"

They may not have been farking but they were flirting, and she was participating. His wife found out, she got pissed and told him to fire the assistant, he did. It sucks, both the doc and the assistant are at fault, but the dentist owns the business and didn't do anything illegal wrt something like sexual harassment. I expect the threat to the marriage was his wife making that a condition of them staying married and not something so simple as this woman innocently flouncing around in sexy clothes while he salivated and rubbed his junk on the suction hose the way this shiat is written out to sound like.
2013-07-12 01:10:45 PM
1 votes:
Given the landscape of sexual harassment lawsuits in the business world, an employee who will likely cause you to lose a lot of money need to be let go. As long as sexual harassment is completely subjective and costs business millions you should expect them to try and lower their risk.
2013-07-12 12:46:47 PM
1 votes:

thecpt: I should be in the kitchen: Of course, it's always the harlot's fault for causing her brothers in Christ to stumble. I bet she even wore clothes that exposed her ankles, causing him to sin by having impure thoughts.

/been reading a lot lately on patriarchal Christianity and the purity/modesty culture. It's disgusting how they put blame solely on women for men's actions.

I like how it's assumed she would allow him to ravage her if he wanted to


But it wasn't assumed.  He fired her because he would TRY to sleep with her - leading to marital issues, sexual harassment issues, etc.  No assumption that she would allow him; just that he would make the attempt.
2013-07-12 12:44:14 PM
1 votes:

mediablitz: Latinwolf: tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.

Complaining about political correctiveness = white man's victim card.

Because the case in the article had noting to do with being political correct, you just wanted an excuse to play the victim card.

I bet in your head, your comment makes some sort of sense.

But only in your head...


Don't blame me if you lack the intelligence to understand some things.
2013-07-12 12:40:19 PM
1 votes:
Dentists man... I don't know what it is.  I have never met a dentist that wasn't some kind of megalomaniac.
2013-07-12 12:40:02 PM
1 votes:

blatz514: Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.

/No boss Friday.

Found her..

[o.aolcdn.com image 627x422]


Robyn Hilton was from Idaho.
2013-07-12 12:38:27 PM
1 votes:
I wonder if he'll think it's fair that I am afraid I'll have this irrepressible urge to kick him in the balls any time I'm near him.
2013-07-12 12:36:20 PM
1 votes:

MikeBoomshadow: Lexx: stuffy: As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?

Logically the court is saying anyone can fire anyone they're attracted to.

I want to fark Sarah Palin. If she is ever elected president, can she be thrown out of office based on that, or do 270 members of the Electoral College have to want to nail her?


I wouldn't worry.  If she ever gets to be President, we'll all be farked.
2013-07-12 12:35:23 PM
1 votes:

stuffy: As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?


/sounds like islamist countries where the women can be stoned to death for showing an ankle, because apparently, showing any skin of any kind there turns the men into slobbering rapists, and its all the womans fault.  Same douchbaggery, different country.
2013-07-12 12:33:50 PM
1 votes:

Latinwolf: tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.

Complaining about political correctiveness = white man's victim card.

Because the case in the article had noting to do with being political correct, you just wanted an excuse to play the victim card.


I bet in your head, your comment makes some sort of sense.

But only in your head...
2013-07-12 12:30:25 PM
1 votes:

tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.


Complaining about political correctiveness = white man's victim card.

Because the case in the article had noting to do with being political correct, you just wanted an excuse to play the victim card.
2013-07-12 12:27:40 PM
1 votes:
Being attractive and being too weak to resist hitting on your employee are two different things.
He's also assuming that she would participate.
i.imgur.com
2013-07-12 12:26:42 PM
1 votes:
Yes he can fire her for that reason. And we all need to know that he is a sexist jerk with a massive ego and no willpower so everyone can stop doing business with a company run by a person like that
2013-07-12 12:23:44 PM
1 votes:

Belias: "She smells like bananas, and I hate bananas", "He looked at me funny", and "those fingernails are an odd shade of green" are also not valid causes for discrimination suits.  If you don't like the store's policies, don't work there, don't shop there, and feel free to peacefully picket with signs of "Asshole in charge here" - he certainly seems to fit the bill.

However, we really  really don't want the government telling us who we can hire/fire.  "Attractive" is not a protected class.

Where do you folks find the seemingly endless fount of outrage to spend on these cases?


The same attitude that men can't control themselves (and it is the woman's fault), when carried to the extreme, has produced the burqa.
2013-07-12 12:18:52 PM
1 votes:
"She smells like bananas, and I hate bananas", "He looked at me funny", and "those fingernails are an odd shade of green" are also not valid causes for discrimination suits.  If you don't like the store's policies, don't work there, don't shop there, and feel free to peacefully picket with signs of "Asshole in charge here" - he certainly seems to fit the bill.

However, we really  really don't want the government telling us who we can hire/fire.  "Attractive" is not a protected class.

Where do you folks find the seemingly endless fount of outrage to spend on these cases?
2013-07-12 12:17:38 PM
1 votes:

dustygrimp: She'd give me an awkward dentist chair stiffy.


Is it 'safe'?
2013-07-12 12:09:32 PM
1 votes:

I should be in the kitchen: Of course, it's always the harlot's fault for causing her brothers in Christ to stumble. I bet she even wore clothes that exposed her ankles, causing him to sin by having impure thoughts.

/been reading a lot lately on patriarchal Christianity and the purity/modesty culture. It's disgusting how they put blame solely on women for men's actions.


I like how it's assumed she would allow him to ravage her if he wanted to
2013-07-12 12:09:14 PM
1 votes:

redmid17: tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.

In a right to work employment at will state you can be fired for any reason that doesn't discriminate against a protected class?


FTFY
Right to work =/= employment at will
2013-07-12 12:08:35 PM
1 votes:

Lexx: So here's a question: can someone tell me about the acquittal of the puppy-killer?


That's what I came here for too..
2013-07-12 12:07:44 PM
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Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.


Two more to add:

From Cedar Rapids:

i283.photobucket.com

From Dubuque:

i283.photobucket.com
2013-07-12 12:06:59 PM
1 votes:
Of course, it's always the harlot's fault for causing her brothers in Christ to stumble. I bet she even wore clothes that exposed her ankles, causing him to sin by having impure thoughts.

/been reading a lot lately on patriarchal Christianity and the purity/modesty culture. It's disgusting how they put blame solely on women for men's actions.
2013-07-12 12:04:03 PM
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stuffy: As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?


From everything I've seen/heard/read. Conservatives would be happy if that was the rule of the land.
Because it can't be a mans fault. He is pure and innocent, it's those evil, sexy, women. With their eyes and legs and boobs and.....
2013-07-12 12:02:33 PM
1 votes:
static.someecards.com
2013-07-12 12:02:22 PM
1 votes:

insano: digitalrain: [farm8.staticflickr.com image 400x300]

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Umm, Florida State girls? Says so right on their shirts.


Whoops - my bad. The others are Iowa all the way, though.
2013-07-12 11:58:27 AM
1 votes:
Once had a lawyer for a client who fired his secretary because "God told him to". He was bat shiat crazy and as dumb as a bag of hammers. Funny thing was: she was the one who knew all his network info, email passwords etc. When he fired her it took him months to get things sorted out.
2013-07-12 11:57:24 AM
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BarleyGnome: Stupid decision..


We walked in, sat down, Obie came in with the twenty seven eight-by-ten
Colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows and a paragraph on the back
Of each one, sat down. Man came in said, "All rise." We all stood up,
And Obie stood up with the twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy
Pictures, and the judge walked in sat down with a seeing eye dog, and he
Sat down, we sat down. Obie looked at the seeing eye dog, and then at the
Twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles and arrows
And a paragraph on the back of each one, and looked at the seeing eye dog.
And then at twenty seven eight-by-ten colour glossy pictures with circles
And arrows and a paragraph on the back of each one and began to cry,
'cause Obie came to the realization that it was a typical case of American
Blind justice
2013-07-12 11:50:11 AM
1 votes:

thisisyourbrainonFark: [m5.paperblog.com image 850x637]

Uh, hmmm, well 2 out of 5 ain't bad.


Yes, yes, no, no, yes.

/ who am I kidding?
// yes, yes, yes, yes, yes
2013-07-12 11:49:13 AM
1 votes:

thisisyourbrainonFark: [m5.paperblog.com image 850x637]

Uh, hmmm, well 2 out of 5 ain't bad.


We're talkin' the two on the left, correct?
2013-07-12 11:49:05 AM
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redmid17: tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.

In a right to work state you can be fired for any reason that doesn't discriminate against a protected class?

"I don't like the way you answer the phone. Fired."
"I don't like the way you lean back in your chair after lunch. Fired"
"You have a nasally voice that makes the managers want to throw you off the roof. Fired"


Just plant a baggie of pot in their locker... problem solved!
2013-07-12 11:48:45 AM
1 votes:
So here's a question: can someone tell me about the acquittal of the puppy-killer?
2013-07-12 11:48:32 AM
1 votes:

jayhawk88: Drew P Balls: Thank goodness for right to work legislation.  I think it may have saved that dentist's marriage.

And what a marriage it is too!

"Honey, I wanted to have an affair with an attractive woman."
"WHAT???"
"But it's OK! I fired her!"
"Oh, well, OK then. Because I know for a fact that the only way you would ever meet another attractive woman is if she worked for you."

They must be fundies. This sounds like a "remove the temptation" thing that would sound completely reasonable and logical to people like that.


If I remember the earlier story correctly, Boss Hog kept sending explicit texts to the employee and his wife found out and - after meeting with his pastor - decided to fire her because they couldn't legally dress her in a burka.
2013-07-12 11:47:52 AM
1 votes:

tortilla burger: She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.


In a right to work state you can be fired for any reason that doesn't discriminate against a protected class?

"I don't like the way you answer the phone. Fired."
"I don't like the way you lean back in your chair after lunch. Fired"
"You have a nasally voice that makes the managers want to throw you off the roof. Fired"
2013-07-12 11:47:09 AM
1 votes:
His wife made him do it. the courts can not legally tell you to argue with your wife,
2013-07-12 11:46:04 AM
1 votes:
m5.paperblog.com

Uh, hmmm, well 2 out of 5 ain't bad.
2013-07-12 11:44:45 AM
1 votes:
She had warned the opinion could allow bosses to legally fire ... small-breasted workers in favor of big-breasted workers.

If I recall correctly, I believe you're allowed to discriminate against ugly/attractive people during the hiring process...even without the "my wife made me do it" defense. It would be odd to have mismatching rulings on hiring and firing employees based the same criterion.

That being said, it seems like nowadays you can be fired for any made-up reason, the employer just has to choose a politically correct made-up reason. Not that it really matters, when it comes down to it.
2013-07-12 11:44:24 AM
1 votes:

WhippingBoy: hardinparamedic: How, in the hell, is this not gender discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Can someone who has a GED in Law Explain this to me?

So if the boss was gay, and he fired an attractive man, what would it be then?


butthurt
2013-07-12 11:44:21 AM
1 votes:

exick: You can be fired/not hired for being an uggo too


It's true. Target hires reasonably attractive employees while K-Mart seems to hire the ugliest, saddest people they can find. While I salute their charity efforts, it's not really bringing customers in to the store.
2013-07-12 11:43:13 AM
1 votes:

stuffy: As a man I find this verdict insulting. Its like saying we are all walking penises with no impulse control. Whats next Iowa, letting rapist go because the woman was dressed too sexy?


Logically the court is saying anyone can fire anyone they're attracted to.
2013-07-12 11:39:18 AM
1 votes:
It is the natural inclination for dentists to want to
*puts on sunglasses*
fill cavities.

YEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAH!
2013-07-12 11:38:42 AM
1 votes:

Mock26:


It's Iowa. Being under four hundred pounds and not slathered in HFCS and corn husks is like being Helen of Troy out there.
2013-07-12 11:37:17 AM
1 votes:
APPLICANT: Well, I type about 90 words a minute. I'm completely well-versed in all IBM and Macintosh programs.

GEORGE: (looking over her resume) Well Miss Coggins you're ah, obviously qualified for the job. You've all the necessary skills and experience. But you're extremely attractive. you're gorgeous. I'm looking at you, I can't even remember my name. So ah, I'm afraid this is not going to work out (he crumples her resume into a ball) Thanks for coming in.
2013-07-12 11:36:42 AM
1 votes:
img.photobucket.com
 
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