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(Chron)   Fresh on the heels of acquitting the guy who beat a puppy to death with a baseball bat, Iowa's Supreme Court Rules it is okay to fire an employee because she's so hot you are worried you might try to have an affair with her   (chron.com) divider line 173
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2013-07-12 03:22:41 PM

Moodybastard: nocturnal001: Well done Iowa, well done.

BTW, so who the heck would ever go see that dentist again? Even if you don't care about shiatty behavior, that guy must be off his rocker to do that.

you are forgetting that if you are a hot woman, he will probably rape you..

/he can't help it...


True, it's for her own good.  Otherwise we would have had a fark thread where people were saying how it was partly her fault for getting raped because she worked alongside a man.
 
2013-07-12 03:40:47 PM

mike_d85: StaleCoffee: ...

All this shiat about gender equality, nobody seems to give a shiat about the guys wife.


It's not that we don't care, it's that she doesn't seem to.  While firing her got rid of the short-term problem and possibly some deep-seated entanglements, there still exists a long-term trust/boundries/you cheating bastard issue that this will not solve.  Her short-sighted solution will allow him to continue this behavior with his remaining employees.  I'm rather certain that will come up as he is surrounded by nothing but female employees and in a dozen there's at least one attractive one in the bunch. Even if just by comparison.


You know for a fact that it ended with the firing and they didn't even so much as buy a book on the subject to discuss it?

If that is the case then yeah, you're right. OTOH it's not unlikely that's step one to a bundle deal, but still, you convey the fault as hers by calling it "her short sighted solution" rather than his.
 
2013-07-12 03:53:54 PM

dartben: Cyno01: I wonder what the fallout of this will be, if companies will start doing this to avoid future sexual harassment liability.

"Sorry Donna, were gonna have to let you go. Youre too hot. Youre just asking to be sexually harassed with the way you look and the way you dress... then youre gonna be suing the company about it, and thats just not a legal battle we want to fight, so im sorry."

No, because as the court points out repeatedly, she never alleged harassment. Which is a big reason she lost.


You misunderstand, im talking about in defense of possible future lawsuits, which is exactly what happened here, "This chick is really hot, im gonna try to bang her and then shell probably sue me for sexual harassment, so i better get rid of her before that happens."
 
2013-07-12 03:56:51 PM

100 Watt Walrus: catmandu: Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.


Two more to add:

From Cedar Rapids:

[i283.photobucket.com image 327x400]

From Dubuque:

[i283.photobucket.com image 299x400]

[i.imgur.com image 320x240]

That may be the nerdiest post in the history of Fark.

I mean, either you happened to know off the top of your head the birthplaces/childhood residencies of everyone/everywoman on every "Star Trek," or the first place you went when looking for attractive Iowans was "Star Trek." There's just no way around it. You are a massive, massive nerd.


Harcourt!
 
2013-07-12 04:06:31 PM

catmandu: Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.


Two more to add:

From Cedar Rapids:

[i283.photobucket.com image 327x400]

From Dubuque:

[i283.photobucket.com image 299x400]


Got snot-slingin' drunk with Kate a long time ago at a bar in Dubuque when she wandered in on a visit to her folks and I happened to be sitting with one of her college classmates.  Good fun.  Still the only person I've gotten loaded with that had their own action figure.

/Miss The Redstone
//And her old college classmate (RIP Michael)
///engage slashies!
 
2013-07-12 04:16:25 PM

exick: It may be shiatty, but I don't think attractiveness is a protected class. You can be fired/not hired for being an uggo too.


Only in positions where you attractiveness directly affects how you can do the job - EG exotic dancer, actress, model, even waitresses in certain places. Being cute has absolutely nothing to do with dentistry. I should know. The dental assistant who usually works on me at the place I go to is middle aged and gross looking, but she sucks at her job because she can't steady her hands for shiat, not because she's not good looking.
 
2013-07-12 04:25:08 PM
I think courts have no business telling employers whom they can or cannot hire / fire / promote / etc.
 
2013-07-12 04:31:35 PM
And Americans say they don't want Sharia Law. They already have it.
 
2013-07-12 04:47:56 PM

StaleCoffee: All this shiat about gender equality, nobody seems to give a shiat about the guys wife.


The only person actually expected to "give a shiat about the guys wife" is the dentist himself, and I'd say he got away pretty easily here.
 
2013-07-12 05:07:36 PM

Tanishh: The dental assistant who usually works on me at the place I go to is middle aged and gross...


Condolences.  My dental hygienist is a hot surfer mom, and the reason why my visits to that house of lies are tolerable.
 
2013-07-12 05:20:52 PM

Barricaded Gunman: StaleCoffee: All this shiat about gender equality, nobody seems to give a shiat about the guys wife.

The only person actually expected to "give a shiat about the guys wife" is the dentist himself, and I'd say he got away pretty easily here.


I didn't realize I was expected to give a shiat about the assistant either. I will go take a dump in her honor.
 
2013-07-12 05:26:31 PM
Note to self: never move to Iowa.

//or even visit/drive thru the f*cking POS state.
 
2013-07-12 05:26:39 PM

100 Watt Walrus: catmandu: Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.

That may be the nerdiest post in the history of Fark.

I mean, either you happened to know off the top of your head the birthplaces/childhood residencies of everyone/everywoman on every "Star Trek," or the first place you went when looking for attractive Iowans was "Star Trek." There's just no way around it. You are a massive, massive nerd.

.

Nope. I googled "famous people from Iowa" and chose the ones I thought Farkers would be most likely to think were hot. (I chose not to include Lara Flynn Boyle (who was hot at one time), Shawn Johnson, Nia Long, Donna Reed, Jean Seberg, and many others)
 
2013-07-12 05:56:34 PM

catmandu: 100 Watt Walrus: catmandu: Harry Freakstorm: It's Iowa, so that's like five women. Prove me wrong Farkers. Prove me wrong with photographic evidence.

That may be the nerdiest post in the history of Fark.

I mean, either you happened to know off the top of your head the birthplaces/childhood residencies of everyone/everywoman on every "Star Trek," or the first place you went when looking for attractive Iowans was "Star Trek." There's just no way around it. You are a massive, massive nerd.
.

Nope. I googled "famous people from Iowa" and chose the ones I thought Farkers would be most likely to think were hot. (I chose not to include Lara Flynn Boyle (who was hot at one time), Shawn Johnson, Nia Long, Donna Reed, Jean Seberg, and many others)


Ahhh, well there's a possibility I hadn't considered.

/Nia Long is hot.
 
2013-07-12 06:21:48 PM

Diana: WTF, Iowa?

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/07/10/iowa-man-use-baseball-bat-to-ki ll -puppy-wasnt-animal-torture-appeals-court/


Holy crap!!! Just...HOLY CRAP!!! Not for the story alone tho...that's bad enuf, but I've seen this happen. Saddest thing ever. I used to live in a cul-de-sac, and we had tons of little kids all in the same age group (4-6 ish) and one day they were all playing outside, one boy was throwing a ball up in the air to hit it himself and the neighbor's Boston Terrier jumped up to get it. Happened in front of all the kids, devastating for everyone. Now...seems to me that is a 6yr old boy can do that to an adult Terrier with one hit, wtf did that grown-ass...puppy...multiple time...geezuz...
 
2013-07-12 07:01:50 PM

thisisyourbrainonFark: [m5.paperblog.com image 850x637]

Uh, hmmm, well 2 out of 5 ain't bad.


which 2?
 
2013-07-12 11:04:22 PM

Magorn: Tyrone Biggums: APPLICANT: Well, I type about 90 words a minute. I'm completely well-versed in all IBM and Macintosh programs.

GEORGE: (looking over her resume) Well Miss Coggins you're ah, obviously qualified for the job. You've all the necessary skills and experience. But you're extremely attractive. you're gorgeous. I'm looking at you, I can't even remember my name. So ah, I'm afraid this is not going to work out (he crumples her resume into a ball) Thanks for coming in.

Well, it CAN be an impediment to productivity in the office.  When running a team of contractors at a fed agency  I once hired a girl (on the basis of a telphone interview ironically enough)  so incandescantly hot, she even made me a little weak in the knees to look at her.  At the end of the first week I actually had to have a sit-down with the Center Director (gov side) to tell him that he needed to put a leash on half of his senior staff, as my employee was being pestered by very senior GS-14& 15 Kawyers and managers who kept stopping by her desk to offer to "show her around", "Train" her (my job), or just "make sure she had all the supplies she needed" (a gs-15 who  didn't even know where the supply closet WAS mind you).

The day she came in dressed to go out clubbing later that night, I thanked all the gods that I'd actually worked as an Employment Dicrimination/Sexual Harrasmen lawyer on the Plaintiff's side for a summer, so I knew pretty much EXACTLY what I could and could not legally say, as I tried to make her aware that while we had no dress code,  a corset top and short skirt wasn't giving her the professional image she needed to maintain (and was causing physical pain to some of the horndogs in the office-but I didn't say that part)


Well said, and good job reminding the horndogs to keep it professional. Remember that it goes both ways. I get a little weak in the knees with one of the guys and I just have to remember that it's me, not him. It's work. Competent good, fugly people deserve just as much of my time as the hot guy. I wish he wouldn't wear those distracting jeans and that his badge didn't hang down and rest on that really, really nice bulge (oh god, look away, eyes must be higher, don't look at his legs). Phew, urges controlled. Okay, make eye contact with the ugly guy too, smile at him just like you smiled at the other one.

There, now I'm behaving properly at work.
 
2013-07-13 02:25:25 AM

offmymeds: Maybe George Zimmerman's defense team should have had his trial moved to Iowa. From the sound of it, he'd have received a slap on the wrist, i.e.: community service.


Only if he was a spurned lover who just wanted one more romp in the brown hay after Trayvon had moved on.
 
2013-07-13 07:49:05 AM

mizchief: Given the landscape of sexual harassment lawsuits in the business world, an employee who will likely cause you to lose a lot of money need to be let go. As long as sexual harassment is completely subjective and costs business millions you should expect them to try and lower their risk.


Incorrect.
 
2013-07-13 07:51:08 AM

dartben: hardinparamedic: How, in the hell, is this not gender discrimination in violation of the Civil Rights Act of 1964?

Can someone who has a GED in Law Explain this to me?

The woman's attorney farked up and never alleged harassment. All the comments are therefore meaningless.

All that's left is "was she fired because she's a woman?" Since every other employee was a woman, and she was replaced by a woman, and the evidence is that it was the extracurricular comments that caused the trouble, the answer was no.


Was there any harassment?  because if not, the attorney didn't fark up, he acted ethically.

(Yes, it happens)
 
2013-07-13 07:53:02 AM

mike0023: I think courts have no business telling employers whom they can or cannot hire / fire / promote / etc.


Sure, courts can go overboard, but do you REALLY long for the good old days of all-white city fire and police departments?
 
2013-07-13 08:50:22 AM

PunGent: mike0023: I think courts have no business telling employers whom they can or cannot hire / fire / promote / etc.

Sure, courts can go overboard, but do you REALLY long for the good old days of all-white city fire and police departments?


You are comparing apples and oranges. Of course the government shouldn't discriminate! But, in my opinion, a private employer should be able to make his employment decisions without government interference.
 
2013-07-13 08:57:35 AM
Dr. Knight is fantastic. I went in for a routine cleaning. Three hours later, when I came to, my gums felt amazing.

Still, "Dr." Knight was by my side. He was pulling up his scrubs with his left hand while chewing a bite of the turkey club sandwich in his right hand. He even offered me a bite. Apparently that's the newest way to get a fluoride treatment.

My only complaint is that his office assistant was a little snooty.
 
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