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(Opposing Views)   Paralyzed man who saved $30,000 for revolutionary stem cell treatment donates it to a kid who needs $100,000 surgery for rare condition   (opposingviews.com) divider line 23
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2013-07-12 12:18:38 PM
8 votes:
Hero tag broken, subby?
2013-07-12 12:20:31 PM
4 votes:
Fark every rich bastard in this country. Fark every one of them.

What a country.
2013-07-12 12:35:44 PM
3 votes:

monoski: Really no evidence that stem cell surgery is anything more than a scam in countries where the medical laws are a lot less strict.


Erm, what? There's plenty of evidence on PubMed using pluripotent stem cells in nerve tissue grafts out of the Middle East and Europe on small human and animal trials. The main problem, however, is that those stem cell grafts turn into cancerous tissue as a complication of the procedure.

You're referring to Stem Cell Quackery. Two different things.
2013-07-12 02:04:08 PM
2 votes:
and if we'd get off our asses and joing the rest fo the world we could see that they BOTH got the care they needed by having universal, single payer health insurance, and in the process save about $1 trillion a year on healthcare costs nationally :
www.economicshelp.org
2013-07-12 12:26:12 PM
2 votes:

mbillips: I thought we had universal health care in America. Can't you just go to the emergency room for your life-saving surgery?


EMTALA doesn't consider paralysis to be a life threat. :)
2013-07-12 12:22:42 PM
2 votes:
Idiot. If he got healthy he could earn much more than that for the kid. He`s just an AW...

How selfish can you get?
2013-07-12 03:59:53 PM
1 votes:

kvinesknows: What I dont understand is why the state would have the law that the operation can only be performed by a doctor who has no wife.


Because the doctor is the kid's mother.
2013-07-12 02:45:28 PM
1 votes:

hardinparamedic: Magorn: and if we'd get off our asses and joing the rest fo the world we could see that they BOTH got the care they needed by having universal, single payer health insurance, and in the process save about $1 trillion a year on healthcare costs nationally :
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That chart is rather misleading.

The population of Slovenia is 2.05 million. The population of the United States is 319.9 Million people as of 2013. 40.3 Million of those people are age 60 and over. Many of countries on your chart don't even approach that population number given their entire population alone.

That's not to say we DON'T have a problem, because we do. But basing your argument on misleading comparisons is giving people ammo to shoot you down.


That's why a used a Per Capita chart, now yes I do take your argument that a country with an aging population necessarily will have higher health costs than one with a young one,  But much of Western Europe is "greyer" than we are and Japan certainly is, and they spend far less per capita even so (partially by having sensible things like a doctor who can make housecalls essentially on call the way the local paramedics are, so when it's late and you are sic kand need medical attention you can get that with a realtively low cost pop-in by a doctor who can write you a perscription rather than a very expensive trek, or even transport, to the ER because you happened to get sick after say 9pm)
2013-07-12 02:39:19 PM
1 votes:
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: grandstanding


I see what you did there....

Seriously though. Are you in a wheelchair? If you donated money to someone who couldn't walk, would you be pissed if he gave it to another, younger, more suffering person that had an even shiattier life? Or would you be like I DONATED THAT MONEY TO ONE GUY IN A WHEELCHAIR. NO OTHER CHARITY MONEYS SHALL BE TRANSFERRED TO OTHER NEEDY WHEELCHAIR PEOPLE. NO OTHER PEOPLE NEED TO HEAR ABOUT OTHER PEOPLE IN WHEELCHAIRS AND DONATE MONEY.
2013-07-12 02:23:36 PM
1 votes:

Magorn: and if we'd get off our asses and joing the rest fo the world we could see that they BOTH got the care they needed by having universal, single payer health insurance, and in the process save about $1 trillion a year on healthcare costs nationally :
[www.economicshelp.org image 803x704]


Can I ask, does spending that much result in healthcare of a genuinely higher quality? Yeah it's really expensive, but do you think "at least we bought something nice", or do you think "we done got shafted"? My brother is moving to America, so I'm curious about these things now.
2013-07-12 01:58:30 PM
1 votes:

Harry Freakstorm: Unoriginal_Username

Smeggy Smurf: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too. People like a good story like this. They'll make sure the money is there.

Yeah. Win/win for all involved.
And why is there only one doctor that can perform this type of surgery?

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He's kind of a specialist and keeps strange hours. Mumbles a lot about his spider problem.



*ahem*

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Spider thread! Spider thread!
Quite tangential and still ahead!
Props to Doc Ock, but he's still all talk-
Will he help this poor child to walk?!
Hey theeeere......A minor spider thread!
2013-07-12 01:57:24 PM
1 votes:
Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too. People like a good story like this. They'll make sure the money is there.
Smeggy Smurf: Yeah this guy knows how to play the game.              ...



I'd donate. Because, even if he gets his surgery, he will likely never enjoy the level of mobility that I have been blessed with, and I think his kindness was sincere.
2013-07-12 01:54:03 PM
1 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: mbillips: I thought we had universal health care in America. Can't you just go to the emergency room for your life-saving surgery?

This is why I vote Republican.


Voting Republican in the US really doesn't change any thing in the UK.  Because this story is from the UK.
2013-07-12 01:39:05 PM
1 votes:
I am shocked with the level of jaded people in this thread calling him an AW. He's passing a lot of time and money on to someone who needs it more. He is pushing back his ability to walk, to help a kid get closer to a normal life, faster.

How is that an AW?
2013-07-12 01:13:59 PM
1 votes:
piximus.net
2013-07-12 01:00:40 PM
1 votes:

Maggie_Luna: Do the parents not have insurance, would this not be covered by insurance? I'm only curious because holy mother of bob that is a lot of money.


If the insurance company were liable, they could easily just refuse to pay. What are the parents going to do? Sue? That'll cost as much, if not more, than the treatment!
2013-07-12 12:46:33 PM
1 votes:
Do the parents not have insurance, would this not be covered by insurance? I'm only curious because holy mother of bob that is a lot of money.
2013-07-12 12:42:29 PM
1 votes:

TheShavingofOccam123: dready zim: Idiot. If he got healthy he could earn much more than that for the kid. He`s just an AW...

How selfish can you get?

This. That guy could have carved extensions out of 2x4s with his teeth and used them to pull himself up by his bootstraps. The fact he would deflate into a pile of jumbled bones makes no difference. He is a free-loader without any bootstrappiness.


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2013-07-12 12:33:31 PM
1 votes:
Really no evidence that stem cell surgery is anything more than a scam in countries where the medical laws are a lot less strict.
2013-07-12 12:30:52 PM
1 votes:

Smeggy Smurf: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too.  People like a good story like this.  They'll make sure the money is there.


Yeah. Win/win for all involved.
And why is there only one doctor that can perform this type of surgery?
2013-07-12 12:22:34 PM
1 votes:
Oh god... the dust.
2013-07-12 12:22:17 PM
1 votes:
Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too.  People like a good story like this.  They'll make sure the money is there.
2013-07-12 12:20:12 PM
1 votes:
I thought we had universal health care in America. Can't you just go to the emergency room for your life-saving surgery?
 
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