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(Opposing Views)   Paralyzed man who saved $30,000 for revolutionary stem cell treatment donates it to a kid who needs $100,000 surgery for rare condition   (opposingviews.com) divider line 64
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2013-07-12 02:45:28 PM  

hardinparamedic: Magorn: and if we'd get off our asses and joing the rest fo the world we could see that they BOTH got the care they needed by having universal, single payer health insurance, and in the process save about $1 trillion a year on healthcare costs nationally :
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That chart is rather misleading.

The population of Slovenia is 2.05 million. The population of the United States is 319.9 Million people as of 2013. 40.3 Million of those people are age 60 and over. Many of countries on your chart don't even approach that population number given their entire population alone.

That's not to say we DON'T have a problem, because we do. But basing your argument on misleading comparisons is giving people ammo to shoot you down.


That's why a used a Per Capita chart, now yes I do take your argument that a country with an aging population necessarily will have higher health costs than one with a young one,  But much of Western Europe is "greyer" than we are and Japan certainly is, and they spend far less per capita even so (partially by having sensible things like a doctor who can make housecalls essentially on call the way the local paramedics are, so when it's late and you are sic kand need medical attention you can get that with a realtively low cost pop-in by a doctor who can write you a perscription rather than a very expensive trek, or even transport, to the ER because you happened to get sick after say 9pm)
 
2013-07-12 02:47:04 PM  

Smeggy Smurf: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too.  People like a good story like this.  They'll make sure the money is there.


If they lived in just about any other 1st world country, they wouldn't have to do crap like this.

It's farking embarrassing that we cheer for this.
 
2013-07-12 02:50:37 PM  
FTFA: Brecon's surgery will cost almost $100,000 and can only be performed in Missouri by a single surgeon.

Selective dorsal rhizotomy, which teh googles revealed as the kind of surgery Breton Vaughan is trying to raise the money for, is performed at many major pediatric hospitals, not by one surgeon at one hospital.  And spastic diplegic CP is sadly not as rare as it should be.  So overly dramatic article is overly dramatic.
 
2013-07-12 03:03:20 PM  
And the doctor pockets every last penny from them both and buys a new yacht (he had to get rid of his other one because the ash trays were full).
 
2013-07-12 03:57:16 PM  

Bashar and Asma's Infinite Playlist: charmbomb: I am shocked with the level of jaded people in this thread calling him an AW. He's passing a lot of time and money on to someone who needs it more. He is pushing back his ability to walk, to help a kid get closer to a normal life, faster.

How is that an AW?

He took free money from other people, publicly gave it away to someone else as some grandstanding, and is now hoping that the internet charity machine donates even more money to him for how "selfless" he was. Somebody should teach him a lesson in cynical exploitation by hacking his bank account empty.


Try losing something as core to your existence as the ability to walk and then see how good you are at long term planning.  A sure thing vs. something that could fail is a huge bet to take when the stakes are this high.

/ Had/have a traumatic injury, and almost lost a limb.  Every medical decision I made was a gamble.
//  It's a different game when you play with stakes that high.
 
2013-07-12 03:59:53 PM  

kvinesknows: What I dont understand is why the state would have the law that the operation can only be performed by a doctor who has no wife.


Because the doctor is the kid's mother.
 
2013-07-12 04:06:40 PM  

mbillips: I thought we had universal health care in America. Can't you just go to the emergency room for your life-saving surgery?


Worst troll evar!
 
2013-07-12 04:31:40 PM  

Apos: Harry Freakstorm: Unoriginal_Username

Smeggy Smurf: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too. People like a good story like this. They'll make sure the money is there.

Yeah. Win/win for all involved.
And why is there only one doctor that can perform this type of surgery?

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He's kind of a specialist and keeps strange hours. Mumbles a lot about his spider problem.


*ahem*




Spider thread! Spider thread!
Quite tangential and still ahead!
Props to Doc Ock, but he's still all talk-
Will he help this poor child to walk?!
Hey theeeere......A minor spider thread!


Ok... I just burst out laughing in the middle of a GM dealership... Thanks you jerk
 
2013-07-12 06:07:31 PM  
I *am* in a wheelchair, post car accident. I am in constant, chronic pain. I long for a solution. But I have to be honest, this was so much the right thing to do, I wish I could stand and applaud for the next 24 hours.  I can only hope I could be that noble, should the occasion arise.
 
2013-07-12 07:11:31 PM  

Magorn: partially by having sensible things like a doctor who can make housecalls essentially on call the way the local paramedics are, so when it's late and you are sic kand need medical attention you can get that with a realtively low cost pop-in by a doctor who can write you a perscription rather than a very expensive trek, or even transport, to the ER because you happened to get sick after say 9pm)


Interestingly enough, I present to you the concept of community care paramedics.

Instead of a doctor, you take a highly educated and trained paramedic, above the level of "field" providers, and use them for minor medical and community care. Especially preventative medicine.
 
2013-07-12 07:47:44 PM  

Skraeling: Apos: Harry Freakstorm: Unoriginal_Username

Smeggy Smurf: Not only will he be able to recoup the cost of that donation, the kid will wind up with all the money he needs too. People like a good story like this. They'll make sure the money is there.

Yeah. Win/win for all involved.
And why is there only one doctor that can perform this type of surgery?

[di1-3.shoppingshadow.com image 260x260]

He's kind of a specialist and keeps strange hours. Mumbles a lot about his spider problem.


*ahem*




Spider thread! Spider thread!
Quite tangential and still ahead!
Props to Doc Ock, but he's still all talk-
Will he help this poor child to walk?!
Hey theeeere......A minor spider thread!

Ok... I just burst out laughing in the middle of a GM dealership... Thanks you jerk


Yeah. My outburst of laughter sent the cat running.

/new keyboard, etc.
 
2013-07-13 12:13:28 AM  

TheShavingofOccam123: Fark every rich bastard in this country. Fark every one of them.

What a country.


TFA gives you a golden opportunity to feel good and this is what you do with it?   You need professional help.
 
2013-07-13 12:18:02 AM  
Here is the kid's fundraising site, since Yahoo News didn't see fit to provide a link.  He has $52K of $90K goal right now.

http://www.justgiving.com/Brecons-SDR-Journey
 
2013-07-13 12:40:01 AM  
Hm.  The gallant Mr. Black doesn't seem to have an online fundraiser of his own.  I've emailed his local newspaper to see if we can do something about that.  The hope he's given away can surely be replenished by The Power of Fark!
 
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