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(NBC News)   Cold War ll : Fast Eddie Snowden to take temporary asylum in Russia   (worldnews.nbcnews.com) divider line 263
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2013-07-12 11:20:56 AM  
Well, thank God that's over.
 
2013-07-12 11:21:11 AM  
Did he see his shadow?

/6 more weeks of nuclear winter!
 
2013-07-12 11:21:34 AM  
Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone's communications at any time. That is the power to change people's fates.
It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice - that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.
I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."
Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.
That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.
Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Government has placed me on no-fly lists. It demanded Hong Kong return me outside of the framework of its laws, in direct violation of the principle of non-refoulement - the Law of Nations. It has threatened with sanctions countries who would stand up for my human rights and the UN asylum system. It has even taken the unprecedented step of ordering military allies to ground a Latin American president's plane in search for a political refugee. These dangerous escalations represent a threat not just to the dignity of Latin America, but to the basic rights shared by every person, every nation, to live free from persecution, and to seek and enjoy asylum.
Yet even in the face of this historically disproportionate aggression, countries around the world have offered support and asylum. These nations, including Russia, Venezuela, Bolivia, Nicaragua, and Ecuador have my gratitude and respect for being the first to stand against human rights violations carried out by the powerful rather than the powerless. By refusing to compromise their principles in the face of intimidation, they have earned the respect of the world. It is my intention to travel to each of these countries to extend my personal thanks to their people and leaders.
I announce today my formal acceptance of all offers of support or asylum I have been extended and all others that may be offered in the future. With, for example, the grant of asylum provided by Venezuela's President Maduro, my asylee status is now formal, and no state has a basis by which to limit or interfere with my right to enjoy that asylum. As we have seen, however, some governments in Western European and North American states have demonstrated a willingness to act outside the law, and this behavior persists today. This unlawful threat makes it impossible for me to travel to Latin America and enjoy the asylum granted there in accordance with our shared rights.
This willingness by powerful states to act extra-legally represents a threat to all of us, and must not be allowed to succeed. Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.
If you have any questions, I will answer what I can.
Thank you.
 
2013-07-12 11:21:42 AM  
NOT RIP EDDIE CRUISER?

www.coverbrowser.com
 
2013-07-12 11:21:57 AM  
a3.ec-images.myspacecdn.com
 
2013-07-12 11:22:01 AM  
Oh god just shut up about him already!
 
2013-07-12 11:22:47 AM  
I didn't realize the intro to Person Of Interest was that long.
 
2013-07-12 11:22:56 AM  

reveal101: Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone's communications at any time. That is the power to change people's fates.
It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice - that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.
I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."
Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.
That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.
Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Gover ...


TL;DC (Don't care)
 
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2013-07-12 11:25:11 AM  
24.media.tumblr.com

Double dumbass on you.

Because freedom.

//I don't really know or care anymore
 
2013-07-12 11:25:16 AM  

reveal101: This willingness by powerful states to act extra-legally represents a threat to all of us, and must not be allowed to succeed. Accordingly, I ask for your assistance in requesting guarantees of safe passage from the relevant nations in securing my travel to Latin America, as well as requesting asylum in Russia until such time as these states accede to law and my legal travel is permitted. I will be submitting my request to Russia today, and hope it will be accepted favorably.
If you have any questions, I will answer what I can.
Thank you.



Can you cash this check from Nigeria?
 
2013-07-12 11:25:54 AM  
www.poojadang.com
 
2013-07-12 11:26:04 AM  

uber humper: American defect to Russia?  In Russia Soviet, Russians defected to the US!

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There's not place for filters in a free society!!!!!
 
2013-07-12 11:26:09 AM  

reveal101: Hello. My name is Ed Snowden. A little over one month ago, I had family, a home in paradise, and I lived in great comfort. I also had the capability without any warrant to search for, seize, and read your communications. Anyone's communications at any time. That is the power to change people's fates.
It is also a serious violation of the law. The 4th and 5th Amendments to the Constitution of my country, Article 12 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights, and numerous statutes and treaties forbid such systems of massive, pervasive surveillance. While the US Constitution marks these programs as illegal, my government argues that secret court rulings, which the world is not permitted to see, somehow legitimize an illegal affair. These rulings simply corrupt the most basic notion of justice - that it must be seen to be done. The immoral cannot be made moral through the use of secret law.
I believe in the principle declared at Nuremberg in 1945: "Individuals have international duties which transcend the national obligations of obedience. Therefore individual citizens have the duty to violate domestic laws to prevent crimes against peace and humanity from occurring."
Accordingly, I did what I believed right and began a campaign to correct this wrongdoing. I did not seek to enrich myself. I did not seek to sell US secrets. I did not partner with any foreign government to guarantee my safety. Instead, I took what I knew to the public, so what affects all of us can be discussed by all of us in the light of day, and I asked the world for justice.
That moral decision to tell the public about spying that affects all of us has been costly, but it was the right thing to do and I have no regrets.
Since that time, the government and intelligence services of the United States of America have attempted to make an example of me, a warning to all others who might speak out as I have. I have been made stateless and hounded for my act of political expression. The United States Gover ...


Traitors gonna hate
 
2013-07-12 11:27:01 AM  
Don't forget that to get the asylum is Russia he had to accept Putin's terms that he shuts the fark up and stops releasing information.
 
2013-07-12 11:27:27 AM  
Electric Boogaloo
 
2013-07-12 11:27:34 AM  
Leakin' 2: Electric Snowdenloo
 
2013-07-12 11:27:48 AM  
If he has a problem he should come home and discuss it.
 
2013-07-12 11:28:24 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Don't forget that to get the asylum is Russia he had to accept Putin's terms that he shuts the fark up and stops releasing information.


To everyone but the Russians of course, not Putin you on
 
2013-07-12 11:28:48 AM  
I'm sure this has been asked before, but why did he stay at the airport?  I mean, why not a hotel?  Are airports like little sanctuaries or something? I thought you had to go to a church or embassy or something.
 
2013-07-12 11:29:52 AM  
He did a brave thing. I hope someday he can come home again.
 
2013-07-12 11:30:00 AM  
I don't know about Cold War II.  But if I have to climb under my desk and be afraid of nuclear incineration because of this idiot, well, I didn't deserve the time I had.  The time of my life.  No I've never felt this way before.  I swear, It's the truth.  And I owe it all to you.
 
2013-07-12 11:30:00 AM  
Snowden Emerges from Airport, so we can expect six more weeks of cold war?
 
2013-07-12 11:30:38 AM  
I loved Fast Eddie

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2013-07-12 11:30:38 AM  

almejita: I'm sure this has been asked before, but why did he stay at the airport?  I mean, why not a hotel?  Are airports like little sanctuaries or something? I thought you had to go to a church or embassy or something.


If you're in the international terminal, you haven't technically gone through the boarder and into the country the airport is in.
 
2013-07-12 11:30:45 AM  

almejita: I'm sure this has been asked before, but why did he stay at the airport?  I mean, why not a hotel?  Are airports like little sanctuaries or something? I thought you had to go to a church or embassy or something.


He stayed in the arrival area, and didn't pass through immigration, so there was no official check of his passport or attempt to legally enter the country.
 
2013-07-12 11:30:55 AM  
Lucky for Snowden he's not gay.

I mean, I'm assuming. . . .
 
2013-07-12 11:31:24 AM  

quansem: Did he see his shadow?

/6 more weeks of nuclear winter!


damnit, I missed your post
 
2013-07-12 11:31:45 AM  
Yah, Yah. Mister Snowden. Hot Ukrainian girlfriend und chalet in warm sport of Russia (if any). Just give us zee passwords und zee CeeDees. All will be yours. I not just chuckle sinisterly. Must be sound of ice breaking on Volga River. Gonna be early spring. Hot Russian girls cavorting. Don't want to miss that. Now password...
 
2013-07-12 11:31:47 AM  

Philip Francis Queeg: Don't forget that to get the asylum is Russia he had to accept Putin's terms that he shuts the fark up and stops releasing information.


So that it doesn't get in the way of his KGB de-briefing.
 
2013-07-12 11:32:24 AM  
tailgrab.org

He staying in Russia...LET'S PARTY!!!!
 
2013-07-12 11:32:28 AM  
He is seeking temporary asylum in Russia, he has not taken it yet as they have not granted it.
 
2013-07-12 11:33:28 AM  
He stayed in the arrival area, and didn't pass through immigration, so there was no official check of his passport or attempt to legally enter the country.


If you're in the international terminal, you haven't technically gone through the boarder and into the country the airport is in.


Wow, that is very trippy.  So, who has actual legal responsibility for those areas?  Who polices them?
 
2013-07-12 11:33:30 AM  

almejita: I mean, why not a hotel?


There is a hotel attached to the airport where he is staying.
 
2013-07-12 11:34:29 AM  

almejita: I'm sure this has been asked before, but why did he stay at the airport?  I mean, why not a hotel?  Are airports like little sanctuaries or something? I thought you had to go to a church or embassy or something.


The area of the airport he's in is in that region before you go through customs, so it's technically a free zone(may be wrong term)

The hotel he's staying in has an area for people who are in russia, but have not entered through customs. It's all a security controlled area, where he can't go anywhere, but technically he's not really in russia

there was an articvle that explained it way better then my gibberish a few weeks ago
 
2013-07-12 11:35:05 AM  
Snowden followed his conscience, and stood up for what he believes in. That takes more guts than the average Farker. For anyone saying "meh" right now...I agree there's media fatigue, but stop focusing on the messenger and start focusing on the message. Your government is spying in you. Your government has been caught red handed violating your rights. I don't blame Bush. I don't blame Obama. I blame complacency.
 
2013-07-12 11:35:17 AM  
Yes, apparently RUSSIA is the place to go when you want to escape government surveillance.  They have such a great track record of that.  Great choice there, genius.  Enjoy your surveillance-free life.

blogs.phoenixnewtimes.com
 
2013-07-12 11:35:24 AM  

Representative of the unwashed masses: Oh god just shut up about him already!


No. This story is not jsut trite news bites. In the context of the Cold War, this is in fact a really freaky and historically significant event - both the reasons behind Snowden's leaks and the debate over his criminalized status. If he seeks asylum in Russia, then the War on Terror will have potential worldview challenges for the generations that fought the Cold War. Snowden won't be merely criminal or merely symbolic of some hacker ethic/anti-ethic, but instead his motives will be major questions of political philosophy that acutally affect average people.
 
2013-07-12 11:35:52 AM  

almejita: Wow, that is very trippy. So, who has actual legal responsibility for those areas? Who polices them?


I imagine the host country still has control of them as far as dealing with any shenanigans, but they're otherwise a kind of no-man's-land.
 
2013-07-12 11:36:37 AM  
I wonder if he'll uncover evidence of Russia spying on its own citizens.
 
2013-07-12 11:37:21 AM  
VernonFL
There is a hotel attached to the airport where he is staying.
.
Well that's disappointing, I was picturing him all Tom Hanks'd out.  Maybe a little squatters camp under the escalators.
 
2013-07-12 11:37:56 AM  

saberXray: Snowden followed his conscience, and stood up for what he believes in. That takes more guts than the average Farker. For anyone saying "meh" right now...I agree there's media fatigue, but stop focusing on the messenger and start focusing on the message. Your government is spying in you. Your government has been caught red handed violating your rights. I don't blame Bush. I don't blame Obama. I blame complacency.


Meh, who cares... Drink Brawndo.
 
2013-07-12 11:38:59 AM  

saberXray: Snowden followed his conscience, and stood up for what he believes in. That takes more guts than the average Farker. For anyone saying "meh" right now...I agree there's media fatigue, but stop focusing on the messenger and start focusing on the message. Your government is spying in you. Your government has been caught red handed violating your rights. I don't blame Bush. I don't blame Obama. I blame complacency.


I blame Obama for the treatment of Bradley Manning.  If that's what happens when you decide the fact the music in the U.S., then fark facing the music in the U.S.
 
2013-07-12 11:39:15 AM  

almejita: Wow, that is very trippy. So, who has actual legal responsibility for those areas? Who polices them?


Airport security can always call in official police of the country the airport is located. Remember that Tom Hanks movie The Terminal? It's based on a real story. You can technically live in the airport area for ages without passing through security and crossing the "official" boarder.
 
2013-07-12 11:39:44 AM  
I know a bunch of you(particularly in government) have a hard on for starting another Cold War, think of all the advantages: you know who it's culturally acceptable to hate(and anybody who disagrees is a traitor) and you have an easy and convenient excuse to spend money on whatever you want and to trample on any laws/civil rights that you want. Well STOP IT. Shiat wasn't funny 70 years ago, it wasn't funny after 9/11 and it farking isn't funny now.
 
2013-07-12 11:40:11 AM  
It's probably a trap. The Russians will grant Snowden asylum and then arrest him for a simple charge so they can extradite him back to the United States. Hopefully one day we can bring Snowden to justice.
 
2013-07-12 11:40:18 AM  
Randy Balko -   "The secrecy of these programs makes it impossible to hold elected officials and appointed bureaucrats accountable. Relying solely on internal governmental checks violates the fundamental constitutional principle that the sovereign people must be the ultimate external judge of their servants' conduct in office. Yet such judgment and control is impossible without the information that such secret programs conceal. Had it not been for recent leaks, the American public would have no idea of the existence of these programs, and we still cannot be certain of their scope."

Thank you, Ed Snowdon.
 
2013-07-12 11:40:48 AM  
So his girlfriend is available now, right?
 
2013-07-12 11:41:26 AM  
Looks like somebody got tired of eating at Sbarro.....
 
2013-07-12 11:41:28 AM  
I read that he says the US is blocking him from accepting asylum. Somewhere. Somehow. It was light on details, proof.
 
2013-07-12 11:41:35 AM  

saberXray: Snowden followed his conscience, and stood up for what he believes in. That takes more guts than the average Farker. For anyone saying "meh" right now...I agree there's media fatigue, but stop focusing on the messenger and start focusing on the message. Your government is spying in you. Your government has been caught red handed violating your rights. I don't blame Bush. I don't blame Obama. I blame complacency.


My problem in this whole thing is that Snowden is the only one.  He was a contractor.  How many other people had this kind of access?  10? 100? 1000?  Is it as bad as it's being made to be?  What's really going on that no one else was outraged enough to do what Snowden did?  Snowden has a secret; a motivator.  And it's probably money from the country he eventually resides in.  I could be wrong, but I'm not feeling pure principle in this guy.
 
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