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2013-07-12 01:52:15 PM
I wonder how long it will take America to work this particular bit of impacted beef through it's colon.
 
2013-07-12 01:53:04 PM

ZeroPly: crazies waiting for you outside your office building with a Big Gulp cup full of acid...


Lysergic, or sulphuric?
 
2013-07-12 01:54:34 PM
And the creationists were big fans of Judge John E. Jones III...before he destroyed their case in Kitzmiller v. Dover.  Now he's the libbiest lib that ever libbed...never mind he was appointed by Dubya and was friends with Tom Ridge.
 
2013-07-12 01:58:05 PM

randomjsa: Yes, I'd quit being a fan too if the judge is about as impartial as a judge in China, and obviously has every intention of helping the prosecution get a conviction for something, anything.

Anyone who didn't think this would happen was kidding themselves and anyone who didn't think it would happen after Obama stuck his nose in it is REALLY kidding themselves.


Were you born retarded, or did you suffer a traumatic brain injury that caused your IQ to drop to somewhere around 45?
 
2013-07-12 01:59:57 PM

randomjsa: Yes, I'd quit being a fan too if the judge is about as impartial as a judge in China, and obviously has every intention of helping the prosecution get a conviction for something, anything.


It's astounding to hear this complaint from both wings of the political spectrum. 

There has probably never been a better time to be caught with a bag of reefer.
 
2013-07-12 02:00:34 PM

culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.


Pretty much.  The older you get the harsher the penalties are for learning basic lessons.  Keeping your hands to yourself was a lesson he apparently skipped and he paid a pretty harsh, but justified, penalty for that lesson.
 
2013-07-12 02:01:32 PM

culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.


As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?
 
2013-07-12 02:03:48 PM
The worst part of this whole trial is the fact that it was pushed to a national stage, rather than be dealt with in Florida (Florida laws and all). The investigation and trial probably would have been over by now had this whole story not been catapulted into the national spotlight. Honestly, who gives a crap about Florida's SYG law other than the residents of Florida?
 
2013-07-12 02:04:06 PM

IlGreven: And the creationists were big fans of Judge John E. Jones III...before he destroyed their case in Kitzmiller v. Dover.  Now he's the libbiest lib that ever libbed...never mind he was appointed by Dubya and was friends with Tom Ridge.


And was confirmed by the Senate in a 100-0 vote which was not filibustered.
 
2013-07-12 02:04:38 PM

sure haven't: My wife and I have been watching a bit of it, and... she just sounds like a dullard.


Then why in God's name did you marry her? Is she that hot?
 
2013-07-12 02:06:41 PM

Pumpernickel bread: culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.

As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?


Wait until the media gets wind of this!
 
2013-07-12 02:08:35 PM

SovietCanuckistan: A Terrible Human: ChipNASA: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/you guys are slipping. *I* am King Sh*t of Fark Island for catching this. You're just plebeians.

Okay I'm just going to have to ask why the fark you keep posting that.

When you're King Sh*t of F*ck Island, you do what you want.


This is never going to be a thing.  Stop it.
 
2013-07-12 02:08:57 PM

fuhfuhfuh: The worst part of this whole trial is the fact that it was pushed to a national stage, rather than be dealt with in Florida (Florida laws and all). The investigation and trial probably would have been over by now had this whole story not been catapulted into the national spotlight. Honestly, who gives a crap about Florida's SYG law other than the residents of Florida?


The investigation and trial only happened in the first place because it was catapulted into the national spotlight, which in turn happened because the Sanford PD tried to sweep the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a (at the time presumed to be) white man under the rug.

/said investigation would eventually reveal that the shooter is not "white," he is "white-Hispanic"
 
2013-07-12 02:09:33 PM

randomjsa: Yes, I'd quit being a fan too if the judge is about as impartial as a judge in China, and obviously has every intention of helping the prosecution get a conviction for something, anything.

Anyone who didn't think this would happen was kidding themselves and anyone who didn't think it would happen after Obama stuck his nose in it is REALLY kidding themselves.


This is the most stunning application of fresh horse manure that actually means nothing I have seen in years.

Thank God he was able to blame Obama for the whole mess before he finished, otherwise I would have assumed it was Meow Said The Dog.
 
2013-07-12 02:10:26 PM

BigNumber12: redmid17: Ripping a new one =/= blatantly favoring the state

Yep. There's been nothing clever or impressive about it. It's been an "I'm the boss of this room, and I don't like you" tantrum the whole time.


or, basically, a judge doing his job and correctly applying the rules of evidence no matter what Farklawyers think abou it.   I've yet to see him make an evidentiary ruling I didn't correctly predict, except the one allowing in evidence of Martin's MJ use,  I would have ruled that irrelevant or more prejudicial than probabtive, myself, but eveything has has been pretty much straight down the line and according to standard practice.
 
2013-07-12 02:10:44 PM

Lt. Cheese Weasel: She looks like Jabba the Hut to me.


That's because hate clouds everything you see.
 
2013-07-12 02:13:56 PM

dittybopper: Lysergic


Citric, just to sting the eyes a little.
 
2013-07-12 02:14:47 PM

Lsherm: SovietCanuckistan: A Terrible Human: ChipNASA: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/you guys are slipping. *I* am King Sh*t of Fark Island for catching this. You're just plebeians.

Okay I'm just going to have to ask why the fark you keep posting that.

When you're King Sh*t of F*ck Island, you do what you want.

This is never going to be a thing.  Stop it.


No joke.  You can disembowel yourself forcing a meme that hard.
 
2013-07-12 02:15:07 PM
Jabba the Hut?
 
2013-07-12 02:15:53 PM

Pumpernickel bread: culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.

As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?


????

Considering assholes were biatching about there being a trial at all (which is standard procedure when a shooting death occurs) I think you can STFU troll
 
2013-07-12 02:16:40 PM

King Something: fuhfuhfuh: The worst part of this whole trial is the fact that it was pushed to a national stage, rather than be dealt with in Florida (Florida laws and all). The investigation and trial probably would have been over by now had this whole story not been catapulted into the national spotlight. Honestly, who gives a crap about Florida's SYG law other than the residents of Florida?

The investigation and trial only happened in the first place because it was catapulted into the national spotlight, which in turn happened because the Sanford PD tried to sweep the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a (at the time presumed to be) white man under the rug.

/said investigation would eventually reveal that the shooter is not "white," he is "white-Hispanic"


What the fark is a "white Hispanic" - Is it different from a regular Hispanic
 
2013-07-12 02:16:41 PM

AFKobel: dittybopper: Lysergic

Citric, just to sting the eyes a little.


Nah, the real pros go with formic for that "ruined picnic" sensation.
 
2013-07-12 02:17:22 PM

Magorn: BigNumber12: redmid17: Ripping a new one =/= blatantly favoring the state

Yep. There's been nothing clever or impressive about it. It's been an "I'm the boss of this room, and I don't like you" tantrum the whole time.

or, basically, a judge doing his job and correctly applying the rules of evidence no matter what Farklawyers think abou it.   I've yet to see him make an evidentiary ruling I didn't correctly predict, except the one allowing in evidence of Martin's MJ use,  I would have ruled that irrelevant or more prejudicial than probabtive, myself, but eveything has has been pretty much straight down the line and according to standard practice.


The judge is a woman.
 
2013-07-12 02:17:31 PM

Lsherm: SovietCanuckistan: A Terrible Human: ChipNASA: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/you guys are slipping. *I* am King Sh*t of Fark Island for catching this. You're just plebeians.

Okay I'm just going to have to ask why the fark you keep posting that.

When you're King Sh*t of F*ck Island, you do what you want.

This is never going to be a thing.  Stop it.


Yes please.
 
2013-07-12 02:18:18 PM
TruBluTroll: That's because hate clouds everything you see.

0/10....change your username.  You are an utter failure.
 
2013-07-12 02:19:19 PM

Magorn: BigNumber12: redmid17: Ripping a new one =/= blatantly favoring the state

Yep. There's been nothing clever or impressive about it. It's been an "I'm the boss of this room, and I don't like you" tantrum the whole time.

or, basically, a judge doing his job and correctly applying the rules of evidence no matter what Farklawyers think abou it.   I've yet to see him make an evidentiary ruling I didn't correctly predict, except the one allowing in evidence of Martin's MJ use,  I would have ruled that irrelevant or more prejudicial than probabtive, myself, but eveything has has been pretty much straight down the line and according to standard practice.


I see you've been paying close attention.
 
2013-07-12 02:20:03 PM
I think declaring them "big fans" is probably not accurate.

I am a criminal defense attorney who has contributed to the campaigns of judges who I don't much care for, simply because the other candidate was absolutely unqualified.

A prefect example, in my county in Tennessee we have five General Sessions Court judges who float between the criminal and civil dockets.  Each Sessions Judge will hear criminal cases for four weeks and then hear civil cases for one week.  As such, they spend 80% of their time handling criminal matters, which also includes the issuance of warrants after making a determination that probable cause exists.

Not long ago a special election was held following the death of one of the sitting judges.  Eleven candidates ran for the single open seat.  Of the eleven candidates only two, one was a former part-time municipal judge, one a former prosecutor, had any real criminal law experience.  One of the candidates handled only two criminal cases in his entire career, and the other had handled only a handful of criminal cases in his career.  The remaining seven candidates had never handled a criminal case in their entire careers.

So only the only qualified candidate for the open position, was the former municipal judge (who effectively withdrew from the race due to health reasons) and the former prosecutor (who also had a couple of years of civil experience).

Several of the candidates who had little or no criminal experience came to one of  the criminal defense attorney's  meetings to try to win the organization's support.  After making a statement the criminal defense attorneys started asking questions about their qualifications.  Some of the questions that were asked of the candidates included:  (1) define probable cause, (2) what level of proof must be presented to a judge before they are able to issue a search warrant, (3) what is the difference between a misdemeanor and a felony, (4) what standard of proof must be met to sustain a petition to violate probation, etc.....

NONE of the candidates with little or no criminal experience could answer any of those questions, clearly making them unqualified to run for judge who was going to be spending 80% of their time handling criminal cases, but nothing in Tennessee's judicial election laws required them to possess any specific knowledge in those areas.

As you can guess, nearly 100% of the criminal defense bar and the district attorneys supported the former prosecutor. Not because we loved that candidate or even thought that she was a great candidate.  That candidate received the support because she was the only qualified candidate who was running for the position.

Sadly, the most qualified candidate didn't win, and the citizens of our county are suffering while the candidate that was elected attempts to learn criminal law.

So a political contribution doesn't always equal "big fans".
 
2013-07-12 02:20:42 PM

King Something: fuhfuhfuh: The worst part of this whole trial is the fact that it was pushed to a national stage, rather than be dealt with in Florida (Florida laws and all). The investigation and trial probably would have been over by now had this whole story not been catapulted into the national spotlight. Honestly, who gives a crap about Florida's SYG law other than the residents of Florida?

The investigation and trial only happened in the first place because it was catapulted into the national spotlight, which in turn happened because the Sanford PD tried to sweep the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a (at the time presumed to be) white man under the rug.

/said investigation would eventually reveal that the shooter is not "white," he is "white-Hispanic"


Zimmerman's ethnicity has not much to do with it.

It was just another dead black kid.
 
2013-07-12 02:21:31 PM

Pumpernickel bread: culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.

As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?



so much buttery goodness of this
 
2013-07-12 02:21:48 PM
Fat guy in a little cell...
Fat guy in a little cell...
 
2013-07-12 02:22:42 PM

corporatepig: What the fark is a "white Hispanic"


That's a good question.

I suppose it would be a Hispanic who can easily be mistaken for "white," like Vanna White from Wheel Of Fortune (she's Puerto Rican). As opposed to "black Hispanic," like Bernie Williams (also Puerto Rican).

Or maybe it's "a Hispanic person of white descent, as opposed to one of black descent."

/I honestly don't know the answer to your question
//am Puerto Rican
///never heard the term "white HIspanic" before, or in any context other than, this trial
 
2013-07-12 02:23:04 PM

Crotchrocket Slim: Pumpernickel bread: culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.

As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?

????

Considering assholes were biatching about there being a trial at all (which is standard procedure when a shooting death occurs) I think you can STFU troll


Wtf are you talking about? Trials are not required for a shooting death, only when the state believes a crime has been commited. Or apparently when they want to lynch someone to appease the masses
 
2013-07-12 02:24:29 PM

Carth: natas6.0: Just release the douche already
the news has made this a race crime since the get go
and I wanna see floorida go buck ass crazy

around 5-6pm tonight things will go crazy whether he is released or not.


The politically correct thing to do would be to convict him and then have it overturned on appeal.
 
2013-07-12 02:24:47 PM

sure haven't: My wife and I have been watching a bit of it, and... she just sounds like a dullard.
Can't articulate sentences.
Gets standard phrasing wrong (for example she's an "all intensive porpoises" type)
Stutters and stammers out her point.

What in the blue f*ck? By the time you become a judge, shouldn't you be assured on your feet??


Like these?
i.canvasugc.com
 
2013-07-12 02:25:15 PM

Rapmaster2000: the two lawyers representing accused murderer George Zimmerman actually donated money to the prickly jurist's first election campaign, records show.

No, that's called covering your bets.


Ding! Ding! Ding!  WInner Winner Chicken Dinner.
 
2013-07-12 02:25:24 PM

corporatepig: What the fark is a "white Hispanic" - Is it different from a regular Hispanic


Mestizo.
 
2013-07-12 02:25:37 PM
When's this thing over?
 
2013-07-12 02:26:07 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Or apparently when they want to lynch someone to appease the masses


Of course it isn't possible that this guy killed a teenager for doing nothing other than being black and wearing a hoodie...it MUST be the railroading of an innocent man...
 
2013-07-12 02:26:38 PM

Marine1: When's this thing over?


Whenever the judge decides to moonlight at the nearest opera house.
 
2013-07-12 02:28:20 PM
I still don't know what the judge did that was so unfair.
 
2013-07-12 02:28:51 PM

Marine1: When's this thing over?


I'm thinking by Monday.
 
2013-07-12 02:29:09 PM

dittybopper: ZeroPly: crazies waiting for you outside your office building with a Big Gulp cup full of acid...

Lysergic, or sulphuric?


Figures you'd ask, is one more efficient than the other?
 
2013-07-12 02:29:28 PM

ChipNASA: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/you guys are slipping. *I* am King Sh*t of Fark Island for catching this. You're just plebeians.


This whole "I am King Sh*t" meme you keep forcing is painfully lame.  You sound like a jackass and everyone is starting to hate you.
 
2013-07-12 02:29:30 PM

King Something: Marine1: When's this thing over?

Whenever the judge decides to moonlight at the nearest opera house.


Hah.
 
2013-07-12 02:29:38 PM

King Something: fuhfuhfuh: The worst part of this whole trial is the fact that it was pushed to a national stage, rather than be dealt with in Florida (Florida laws and all). The investigation and trial probably would have been over by now had this whole story not been catapulted into the national spotlight. Honestly, who gives a crap about Florida's SYG law other than the residents of Florida?

The investigation and trial only happened in the first place because it was catapulted into the national spotlight, which in turn happened because the Sanford PD tried to sweep the fatal shooting of an unarmed black teen by a (at the time presumed to be) white man under the rug.

/said investigation would eventually reveal that the shooter is not "white," he is "white-Hispanic"


The race issue really is clouding the bigger discussion. The fact that Florida has a SYG law written in such a profoundly retarded manner that it can be left open to a rather larger interpretation of "threat" is the larger issue.
 
2013-07-12 02:29:47 PM
Did I just hear that judge instruct jurors not to nullify?
 
2013-07-12 02:30:31 PM

bdub77: Lsherm: SovietCanuckistan: A Terrible Human: ChipNASA: [i1.ytimg.com image 320x180]

/you guys are slipping. *I* am King Sh*t of Fark Island for catching this. You're just plebeians.

Okay I'm just going to have to ask why the fark you keep posting that.

When you're King Sh*t of F*ck Island, you do what you want.

This is never going to be a thing.  Stop it.

Yes please.


ok so who died and  made you guys King of Sh*t F*ck Island  anyways ?
 
2013-07-12 02:30:44 PM

Marine1: When's this thing over?


Soon most likely. Closing arguments have been made and jury instructions have been handed or are being handed out (not at my laptop, can't see). Either way expect a verdict to be given either today or after the weekend. If GZ is convicted I'd expect it to go on a lot longer though simply due to appeals.
 
2013-07-12 02:30:57 PM

Marine1: When's this thing over?


After the riots, of course.
 
2013-07-12 02:31:12 PM

Pumpernickel bread: Crotchrocket Slim: Pumpernickel bread: culebra: Fail in Human Form: culebra: I have to admit, (as a guy with no emotional investment in the outcome of the case), that the whiny ineptitude of Zimmerman's defense team and the judge's impatience with it have provided some comic relief to the whole ugly affair.

WTF trial were you watching?

Hey, yeah, no guy...you're right: Zimmerman's the real victim here.

As a matter of fact, yes he is. I can't believe our modern legal system is railroading a member of a particular ethnicity in order to appease members of another ethnicity. Is this the 1880s?

????

Considering assholes were biatching about there being a trial at all (which is standard procedure when a shooting death occurs) I think you can STFU troll

Wtf are you talking about? Trials are not required for a shooting death, only when the state believes a crime has been commited. Or apparently when they want to lynch someone to appease the masses


You mean like when an armed adult shoots and kills an unarmed teenager under mysterious circumstances?
 
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